BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis

Subject: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 03:56 PM

My daughter wanted to know, do people who live in Jerusalem say "Next year in Jerusalem!" at the end of the seder meal?

Thanks,
Alex

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: mousethief
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 12:49 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: Noreen
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 06:43 AM

A good question, young mouselet, and one that I want to know the answer to now, too!

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 01:02 PM

Yes, see the "story" below.......

The story is told of a poor man, Shmelke, who lived in a small village. The town folks wanted to support him, but without him feeling like he was accepting charity. So they came up with a plan: They hired him to sit at the city gates and wait for the Mashiach.(Messiah)

One day, a traveler approached the city and asked Shmelke what he was doing. "This is my job," Shmelke said. "My job is to wait here to greet the Mashiach."

"Does it pay well?" asked the traveler.

"Not really," said Shmelke, "but it's steady work."

When we say "Next year in Jerusalem" we mean that all Jews should actually be in Israel and in Jerusalem (not just as tourists!). We mean Jerusalem as it is ideally meant to be - with the Temple, the Sanhedrin and a Jewish Monarch. We're still waiting. Even we here in Jerusalem say "Next year in Jerusalem!"

From: Ask the Rabbi, http://www.ohr.edu/web/index/askidx.htm

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: Owlkat
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 12:51 PM

Hi,
Another part of the reason that this is so important to us is that during the centuries that Jews were unable to live in Israel/Palestine/Judea, it was a prayer of hope, that no matter how bad things (persecution, death, etc) were in the "Diaspora"(Exile), the next year would be better because, maybe, we would be able to return back home to our land of origin. Israel is now a reality, but the prayer is still said at Passover seders.
Owl.

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: GUEST,no-one
Date: 01 May 01 - 11:15 AM

Even though the Land is occupied they still claim a exile status. The statement is just good ol' eschatological (end time) yearning. Uncloudy day and all that ship comes in metaphorical talk.... If I never never see you any more...Bye an Bye I'm goin to see the King. Take your pick, but they all center around pining for the time without tears and judgement.

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: mousethief
Date: 01 May 01 - 11:18 AM

Thanks, everyone! I'll see my daughter tonight and tell her what y'all said.

Alex

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 May 01 - 12:13 PM

In Chicago we say it about the Cubs and Wrigley Field. ;-)

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: A question for Irwin or other Israelis
From: mousethief
Date: 01 May 01 - 12:14 PM

Say what, Art, "Next year in the Playoffs"?