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BS: Knickers in a Twist

Clinton Hammond 02 May 01 - 01:52 PM
JudeL 02 May 01 - 01:33 PM
Bert 02 May 01 - 01:23 PM
Wavestar 02 May 01 - 01:20 PM
Don Firth 02 May 01 - 01:11 PM
IceWolf 02 May 01 - 01:03 PM
Caitrin 02 May 01 - 12:45 PM
mousethief 02 May 01 - 12:36 PM
Les from Hull 02 May 01 - 11:42 AM
Dave the Gnome 02 May 01 - 10:48 AM
IceWolf 02 May 01 - 10:16 AM
Bagpuss 02 May 01 - 09:50 AM
kendall 01 May 01 - 07:48 PM
sophocleese 01 May 01 - 07:44 PM
Ebbie 01 May 01 - 07:38 PM
Gary T 01 May 01 - 07:06 PM
Caitrin 01 May 01 - 05:28 PM
Linda Kelly 01 May 01 - 04:28 PM
jeffp 01 May 01 - 04:28 PM
Kim C 01 May 01 - 04:24 PM
Wavestar 01 May 01 - 04:12 PM
GUEST,Karen 01 May 01 - 02:22 PM
Mr Red 01 May 01 - 02:18 PM
GUEST,Karen 01 May 01 - 02:10 PM
Clinton Hammond 01 May 01 - 01:20 PM
GUEST,bodhran boy 01 May 01 - 01:17 PM
Caitrin 01 May 01 - 12:51 PM
Whistle Stop 01 May 01 - 11:13 AM
Bill D 01 May 01 - 11:05 AM
Geoff the Duck 01 May 01 - 10:13 AM
Gary T 01 May 01 - 09:24 AM
kendall 01 May 01 - 09:24 AM
Bagpuss 01 May 01 - 08:42 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 01 May 01 - 08:39 AM
Bagpuss 01 May 01 - 08:35 AM
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Les from Hull 01 May 01 - 07:52 AM
Bagpuss 01 May 01 - 07:31 AM
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kendall 30 Apr 01 - 08:23 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:52 PM

Idiots on BIKES!!

The sidewalkis for pedestrains, and the road is for vehicles... a bike is a CHILDS TOY, and should be kept in the yard with the rest of them...

Bike paths are the answer, but the trouble then becomes keeping idiot pedestrains running their dogs or pushing thier damn strollers around on them!!

Be where you're SUPPOSED TO BE and STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: JudeL
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:33 PM

On the "free" gift thing, I want to know how they can call it that when often in order to get your so called "free gift" you first have to buy lots of things and then send money for postage and packaging. If you are exchanging all that its not a gift and it's certainly not free!


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bert
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:23 PM

Continue here


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Wavestar
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:20 PM

ooh Ooh! Icewolf! I agree entirely. Grrr!

Caitrin - I sympathise, having done a lot of theatre myself. It amazes me what people don't notice they are accidently destroying - they say, "well, fine, be picky! I was trying to help!" and I'm thinking, "Breaking things isn't helpful. If you want to help, do it right when I tell you how, don't get offended."

Just another one for the book - I know I've said mean people, but I've got a few examples.

Recently I spent half and hour in the rain trying to find an address on a street I thought I knew. Finally, after checking with passersby, local businesses, and a taxi driver who knew the town really well, I rang the bell of the door that was closest to the number I was seeking to ask if the occupant knew why the street seemed to have no 43 when that was the number I'd been given. I rang the bell, and when i got no response after a couple minutes, rang again. A woman opened the door - unpleasantness wafted off her. "Excuse me," I said, "I'm very sorry, but I'm looking for number 43..." She cut me off and said very sharply, "This is number 45." "I know," I said, and I'm very sorry, but I can't seem to find 43, and I was wondering, since you lived here, if you knew where is was." She glared at me and said in a voice that implied I was really very stupid, "Well, I assume it's just one up." I said, "You'd think so, but it's not. Have you ever..." and she cut me off again, said she was didn't know, and shut the door in my face as I was apologising for taking her time. Why? I had done nothing - maybe it was my American accent, but she was glaring at me from the moment she opened the door. I feel the need to buy a fish, let is ripen a couple days, and put it though her mailslot in an envelope addressed to the lady of the house.

And one more: yesterday, a bunch of friends and I lost an Aerobie in a tree next to the university hall property they live on. It was above someone's garden, but the garden wasn't attached to a house, and it was unclear whose it was. There was no one about, so I climbed onto the wall next to the tree, and we tried retrieving it with sticks, and then tossing a ball at it. No luck. At one point, my friend on the ground (public space, not the garden) looked up and saw someone's face in an upper window. "Is this your garden?" he asked, indicating the garden, and the person. She shook her head, but gave no more information. We tossed the ball a couple more times (we were doing NO harm to the garden, being very careful), and she emerged from her house, scowling. Did she ask us to leave? well yes. But notin so many words. Her first words to us were, "Bugger off." Her second words were the same. Then she said it was her garden, and we should fuck off. We didn't even bother trying to explain, and left immediately without argument, but she still followed us the fence and swore at us. Again, why? Does it make these peoples' days better to be nasty? Does it fulfill some kind of fantasy? Give them a feeling of power? What? I don't get it.

-J


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:11 PM

Yup! Just heard it again this morning!

When newscasters, politicians (on science-related committees), and scientists, including nuclear physicists, pronounce nuclear "NOO-kyuh-ler." Do these people really know what they're talking about? (In case anyone is not sure, it's pronounced "NEW-klee-ur."

Another on is "free gift." Is that to distinguish it from a gift you have to pay for?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: IceWolf
Date: 02 May 01 - 01:03 PM

Things that yank my chain:
Prejudice. Judging another human being purely on race, creed, religion, etc - rather than getting to know them.
Militant feminists who claim to espouse "Equal Rights", but just as avidly oppose women registering for the Selective Service.
Internet Websites that throw pop-up ads in my face.
Nosy neighbors who don't understand that making a six-year-old kid stand in a corner for fifteen minutes is *not* abuse.

IceWolf


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Caitrin
Date: 02 May 01 - 12:45 PM

Okay, I'm a theatre electrician. You know what really bugs me? People who don't coil the cable right! They just gather it up any old way, not giving a flip if it's tangled or twisty or in any way having any concern for the next person who uses it or for getting permanent kinks in the cable. Those folks drive me almost as batty as people who hang lighting instruments upside down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: mousethief
Date: 02 May 01 - 12:36 PM

Doesn't Bill Gates's new mansion have Panasonic views? Or was it Sony?

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Les from Hull
Date: 02 May 01 - 11:42 AM

No need to get your fishing line tangled, Dave. Panasonic make video cameras, don't they?


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 May 01 - 10:48 AM

I've never had a pet called peeves.

and Gnomes never wear knickers.

I do like mispronunciations or incorrect words though. Always reminds me of Hilda Baker with her 'since time immoral' and the like. My mum-in-laws best was anti-imflamable tablets for her arthritis. Best I saw in a newspaper was a bungalow for sale with 'panasonic views of the Rossendale valley'!

Cheers

Dave the Groan


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: IceWolf
Date: 02 May 01 - 10:16 AM

The thing that gets my hackles up:

kewl d00dz \/\/h0 TyP3 EvErYtH1Ng LiK3 Th15

translation: "Cool dudes who type everything like this", aka "d00dspeak". It's more maddening than people who use "u" for "you", "r" for "are", and "plz" for "please" - which also drives me over the edge.

IceWolf


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bagpuss
Date: 02 May 01 - 09:50 AM

Bill D - I don't think this thread would have been as long or as interesting if I had just called it "Things that annoy you". Secondly, I know many people like learning about other people's colloquialisms (I know I do) and they ain't gonna learn about 'em if nobody uses them. I find that using interesting phases piques people's curiosity and can get all sorts of interesting conversations going.

Also, it was about the connotations of the phrase. It was a light hearted title to reflect a light-hearted topic. And the phrase 'knickers in a twist' implies that it is trivial things we get annoyed about, that we know are not really important, but get us riled up anyway.

Bagpuss (perhaps I have annoyed all sorts of people for choosing a handle that not everyone understands, but I don't care, cos people can always ask)


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: kendall
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:48 PM

I recently went to court to lend support to a very nervous friend. The Bailiff seated everyone after the judge was seated. Then, in a stentorian voice, the judge announced, ANYONE WHO HAS A CEL PHONE, TURN IT OFF NOW, IF IT RINGS DURING THESE PROCEDINGS, YOU WILL BE HELD IN CONTEMPT OF COURT. I almost stood up and cheered.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: sophocleese
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:44 PM

Having just got back from an errand on my bike. People who wander all over the bike path without looking around for other traffic and then look affronted when you cough and say "Excuse me." when you want to get by. Yes they have as much a right to be there as I do. That right means sharing it not hogging it! HHRUMPH!

Having to spend discussion time in a meeting or class catching people up on material they should already be familiar with. Used to drive me up the wall!


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:38 PM

In colloquial German there is a phrase, meant to counsel patience, that literally translates as 'Hold (on to) your pants'. That certainly predates an Americanism, I should think.

I too am jolted by cavalry/calvary; I have often heard it mispronounced in songs. Another one- written by a friend of mine- sings about the 'tempetuous' sea. He must mean tempestuous or maybe he's thinking of 'impetuous'? I have never dared ask.

Oh- and how about 'mispronounciation'? I hear that too.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Gary T
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:06 PM

I bet the feel of them is worse! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Caitrin
Date: 01 May 01 - 05:28 PM

I've heard knickers in a twist, panties in a wad, and panties in a bunch. Quite honestly, though, I don't like the sound of any of them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:28 PM

People who don't clear up after their dogs (A use for your Kwik Save bags Bill!). Frankly, a bag of dog poo is THE latest fashion accessory and I rarely go anywhere without one!


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: jeffp
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:28 PM

Kim, are you sure that sword wasn't carried by one of the Roman soldiers at the crucifixion? *BG*

Seriously, though, that is one of my pet peeves, too. (Does your vet take care of your pet peeves?)

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Kim C
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:24 PM

That's "panties in a wad." Maybe it's a Southernism; I've heard it all my life. One I hadn't heard, though, was "keep your pants on" to counter a fit of impatience.

I was watching the Antiques Roadshow last night and wouldn't you know, the appraiser was looking at a "calvary sword." That's CAV-al-ry. Learn to say it!!!!! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Wavestar
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:12 PM

Only nice midwestern housewives, Bagpuss :) I'm kidding, really. I'm kidding. (sorry, meant to post this a while ago, but couldn't get Mudcat or Loki to respond.)

I'm a pedant. Okay, I'm sorry. The reason, however, is pretty simple - you can talk however you like to your friends, in your letters, notes to yourself, etc. But in formal situations, I feel that one should abide by the rules of grammar to ensure clear communciation - artificial or not. That's just me. This here is Mudcat - do what you like :) (But please don't like using numbers and letters for words... please, please, please...) We'll just agree to disagree, and I'll only correct people who are heading to job interviews or are handing in formal papers.

Other things that annoy me -

People on sidewalks, yes! the ones who stop in front of you, or stand there impeding traffic obliviously, or the groups of four that all walk abreast very slowly so you can't get by, or even worse, the ones who weave! so no matter which way you go around them, they are there first! ARRRGH.

Skanky older men who leer at me and call me dear, particularly ones I'm asking questions of or buying things from. Don't get me wrong - I can tell when they are being sweet. Often, they aren't. The one who pissed me off most looked me right up and down and called me 'sweetie.' I was having lunch with my boss, who was right behind me - and who kindly restrained me from killing the man.

People who don't listen to me when I say things. I say something, and they are looking right at me, but not hearing a word, and then, either they realise I was talking and say excuse me, or worse, they just walk off - or start talking to someone else. I don't speak quietly. I don't talk too fast. I'm very noticable. And I'm sorry that your job is boring, and you can't keep your mind on it, but you're being RUDE!

Cell phones. Mean people. People who blow smoke in my face. People who don't teach their children decent manners, and expect me to understand that the little darlings are just too sensitive, and aren't they stubborn! Yes, lady, stubborn enough that just as soon as they are old enough, they are going to get themselves decked, because no one ever taught them that they can't get away with that.

I'm done for a while, thanks :)

-J


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:22 PM

Okay, Mr Red, that brings up another annoyance for me: trash cans (in the U.S.) with the phrase "Keep litter in its place". "Litter in its place" would pretty much be on the ground. That's why it's litter!


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:18 PM

litter
usually near fast food outlets
the perpetraitors would be the first to moan about the diseases spread by rats
guess they are too dumb to figure they are giving rats a Land overflowing with milk and McDonalds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 01 May 01 - 02:10 PM

BillD, I have to respectfully disagree about "universalizing" thread titles. I am American and greatly enjoy "dialect" phrases or whatever you what to call them. I also have heard the phrase "knickers in a twist" many times even though I am an ignorant American. :-)
As for the spell check annoyance I did have one experience with it that almost caused an uproar at work. I was writing up procedures for my department and was using terms known here at my work. I used the word "masterdatatable" which was not in the spell check dictionary. The closest word it could find was "masturbate". I was sorely tempted to hit the "Replace All" button just to see how it would read....


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 May 01 - 01:20 PM

My point exactily B-boy!

^5's!

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,bodhran boy
Date: 01 May 01 - 01:17 PM

I have to agree with the statement about the assholes (or is it arseholes?). My wife and I have been in a "new" house for about a year and EVERY WINDOW WAS PAINTED OR CAULKED SHUT!! What kind of brain dead, mouth breathing moron does this shit (or is it shite?)?


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Caitrin
Date: 01 May 01 - 12:51 PM

As the daughter of two former British/American lit teachers, I have to jump in the grammar debate...
I'm with Whistle Stop. I hate it when people use plural pronouns to indicate singular antecedents in an effort to be PC.
I love dialects. As spoken language, they're beautiful and fascinating. In formal speaking and writing, however, they can make communication difficult. For instance, if you were speaking to someone for whom English is not her first language, "standard" English would be necessary for effective communication.
Other things that really burn my cookie:
People who move to my side of the Mason-Dixon and make insulting remarks about southerners.
Rudeness
People who think they know everything. (They always annoy those of us who actually do know everything.)
People who treat me like an idiot just because I'm a young female.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 01 May 01 - 11:13 AM

The use of plural pronouns to denote singular objects confuses me, at least. Perhaps I'm just easily confused.

I'm as American as they come, and I've never heard anyone say "knickers in a twist," OR "panties in a bunch," OR "bowels in an uproar". We have equally bizarre expressions, I'm sure -- just not those. But you all have my permission to use whatever expressions suit you. You're welcome.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bill D
Date: 01 May 01 - 11:05 AM

well, it really bothers me to have a thread reach 100 posts before I even knew it was there!!! *grump*

...but beyond that..
re:thread title...why use ANY UK or American slang/colloquialism, whether 'knickers', 'bowels', 'panties' etc.? Who not just title the thread "What annoys you most?" or "Pet Peeves"? Now, within the thread, if you want to slip into local dialect and catch-phrases to make a point to someone who understands you, fine, but some of us poor, elderly, uneducated sorts get very bewildered at cute expressions every third word.

2) re: auto brakes and the use thereof-- You simply NEVER use hand/parking/emergency brakes on level ground, no matter whether you drive automatic OR manual transmission vehicles. There are relatively simple techniques for stopping at lights and starting again using either form of transmission. Even with a 'slight' incline, all that is required with a manual transmission is practicing a little heel-toe movement from brake to accelerator while easing up on the clutch.

On a relatively steep hill, it IS permissable to add the parking/hand brake to the routine when starting from a stopped position.

.....but I suppose that my greatest peeve is traffic 'cheaters'...pushy, arrogant, selfish people who think their need to pass, park, speed, overrides ANY of your rights. I reserve a 10 circle of Hell for those who see lanes narrowing, and traffic forming a single line, and proceed to zoom up the side and bully their way in front of some timid soul. (Those timid souls get about the 6th circle of Hell.)

Of course, those folks who have never learned the difference between words such as 'affect' & 'effect' and 'there', 'they're' and 'there' get MY knickers in a twist and frost my windows ummm...upset me, too


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 01 May 01 - 10:13 AM

Yesterday (Monday) I phoned the doctors' surgery (correct placing of apostrophe because it is a surgery occupied by several doctors) to be told that the earliest "appointment" they had is on Friday. Whoever invented this stupid idea? At my previous doctor's surgery you just turned up when you were poorly and looked at the queue. If it was short you sat down at the end of it and waited. Eventually you got seen. If it was long, you had the choice of waiting a long time or deciding that you were not sick enough to be bothered.
If I am poorly I need to see a doctor then, not days later - by that time I could be twice as bad!
The British Government (another thing which intensely annoys me these days) keeps complaining that people are wasting NHS time and money by not turning up for appointments. They probably don't get there because they died whilst waiting.
Anyway, If all these appointments are being missed, why is it that when you turn up on time for your appointment you still have to wait half an hour. Surely you should go straight into the space left by the thousands of cancellations.
p.s. Internet Acronyms and computer psychobabble. They really get my goat. Why put a string of (to me) meaningless capital letters when we have a sophisticated language we can use, (several if you include Hull and Hebden Bridge). ROFL - BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack, Quack.
GtD


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Gary T
Date: 01 May 01 - 09:24 AM

The equivalent to "knickers in a twist" that I grew up with is "bowels in an uproar." Works fine as long as you don't ponder its literal meaning too much.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: kendall
Date: 01 May 01 - 09:24 AM

Dani, it is quite normal behaviour for a man to say that, but, it can get you into trouble. A better way to deal with that woman would have been to drop a dozen packets of condoms into her cart.(Make sure she doesn't see you do it) then watch as she gets to the checkout.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bagpuss
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:42 AM

I have never encountered anyone being confused by my use of the plural as a substitute for the 3rd person singular of ambiguous gender. Maybe its is just more commonly used in GB so there is less confusion. I just think any alternative sounds strange and artificial. For example

"If a friend wants my e-mail address, should I give it to them?" sounds perfectly natural to me, but substituting "him or her" sounds laboured to my ear.

I stand by you right to be annoyed with me though...

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:39 AM

Oh, what a tangled thong we weave
When we air our favourite peeve.
RtS (the bard of Ascot - some letters may be missing from bard!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bagpuss
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:35 AM

Dont American's say "pantie's in a bunch" as a direct equivalent to "knicker's in a twist"?

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:31 AM

So Bagpuss, you put my knickers in a twist, and I put yours in a twist. [Just using the expression that was used in the title to this thread -- I'm American, and would never use this bizarre UK expression under normal circumstances.] I'm okay with different dialects, but mixing the singular with the plural is a recipe for confusion. Language is used to communicate, and anything that impedes clear communication (at least in cases where we want to communicate clearly) should be avoided. I stand by my comment, however artlessly expressed, and I will defend to the death my right to be annoyed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bagpuss
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:20 AM

Les - what would you know? You're from Hull....

I may miss out apostrophe's due to lazy typing but I never add in one's that shouldnt be there.

Hehehehe

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Dani
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:04 AM

Bill, I can't find the reference now, of course, but there was hilarious story on the wire recently about a veteran who was behind a woman in the 10-item aisle and she had a 'few' more than that. He'd apparently asked her several times to move, and she would not. Finally, he removed her somehow (and was charged with assault). He was heard to say, "I did not serve my country in two wars just to stand in line all day behind someone who cannot *&?^&%@$ COUNT!!"

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Dani
Date: 01 May 01 - 08:04 AM

Bill, I can't find the reference now, of course, but there was hilarious story on the wire recently about a veteran who was behind a woman in the 10-item aisle and she had a 'few' more than that. He'd apparently asked her several times to move, and she would not. Finally, he removed her somehow (and was charged with assault). He was heard to say, "I did not serve my country in two wars just to stand in line all day behind someone who cannot *&?^&%@$ COUNT!!"

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Les from Hull
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:52 AM

There, there 'puss.

There's nowt wrong wi' dialect. I use it missen. But this is an international forum so we shouldn't overuse it. Or maybe we should explain it when we do use it.

You're dead right about split infinitives and other 'inventions', though. These are not wrong, and never were. I used to have to teach effective writing and it was very difficult to get people to believe that it was OK to split an infinitive. Or use a a conjunction to start a sentence with. (That should have got a few people going, I hope)

'Current usage' allows split infinitives and the other things that language pedants rail against - you can point to any current book on effective writing and show them chapter and verse.

By the way - you missed a couple of apostrophes out.**BG**


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Bagpuss
Date: 01 May 01 - 07:31 AM

I hate it when people say, "Currently, correct usage dictates......." Language is a living evolving thing and I like to be descriptive rather than proscriptive (apart from my own pet peeves of course). Most of the grammar things that many people get "wrong" are things that were artificially imposed on the language by people who thought that Latin grammar was correct grammar and that we should copy it. Thats why so many people have trouble with them - the changes didn't occur in spoken language in their everyday life, but were imposed from elsewhere. So in our area, we have always used they instead of he/she and we also say us instead of me and we (w') instead of us. But just because my dialect wasnt in the right part of the country to become "standard english", all these things are "wrong" along with double negatives, split infinitives etc.

erm you might guess that this is one of my knickers in a twist subjects.....

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: JudeL
Date: 01 May 01 - 04:36 AM

Ray - agree totally about the automatic phone thing - one more variation that drives me nuts (it happened this morning ) is when after making you listen to all those options and irritating musak and leaving you on hold for ages, instead of ending up talking to a real person the damn thing cuts you off and you have to go through the whole stupid process again. Grrrrr
Sorry folks but it was the umpteenth time I've tried to get through. Also does BT's message "The number you are calling is not answering, please try later" just before they cut you off and lose your place in the queue annoy anyone else. I know they haven't answered yet and they won't if I keep losing my place in the queue
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GMT
Date: 01 May 01 - 03:30 AM

Didn't realise |I'd cause such a fuss.

Gary T my hand brake stuck on in the monkey enclosure at Wipsnade Park which was damb inconvenient.

Perhaps the thread should be called 'Come the Revolution' ?

Cheers (to all who tried to clear up the brake light thing) Gary


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:26 PM

LOL! Very good, Kendall. I DO try that trick with my kids but they never do leave me alone.... :-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: kendall
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:23 PM

You all have covered a few of my pet peeves. In addition, I would add jerks who pass you, cut you off, then turn off at the next exit when there are no other cars behind you. Spaw, the 1949 Studebaker had a hill holder. Mouse thief, if you sit there with the clutch depressed, there is contact . The throw out bearing is pressed against the pressure plate. I cant stand being put on hold, then having some crap that passes for music blaring in my ear. I hang up and keep calling back until I get someone who knows what they are doing. A major peeve...talking to a clerk, the phone rings, she/he leaves you standing there like a second class citizen and talks to some person on the other end. If they decide to talk to the phone customer, I tell them, dont put me on hold, I was here first. If they keep it up, I leave. They remind me of Pavlovs dogs, they dont know why they do it, they just do it. Karen, next time someone bugs you in a store, fall to the floor, assume a foetal position and scream "Why cant you just leave me alone!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: bill\sables
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:03 PM

One thing which I hate is being in a supermarket and buying a couple of items and going to the "Less than 10 Items" checkout only to find that the shopers in front of you are unloading a trolly with at least a weeks supplies and then wanting to write out cheques and and collect points etc. Another thing in Kwik Save supermarkets is after having checked through the checkout having to buy bags to carry your goods home in.
Bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Justa Picker
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:53 PM

Here are a few of mine.


Whenever someone starts a phrase "Now don't take this the wrong way" you always will.

Whenever someone says "It's not a question of the money" it always is.

Whenever you ask a saleman a question and he says "Listen, I'm not gonna lie to you" he will.

Whenever you receive a letter marked on the outside "Without Prejudice", the contents are the opposite.

Whenever someone signs a letter "respectfully" they have none for you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: kendall
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:46 PM

One of my pet peeves is someone who says one thing, means another, and doesn't get it when I dont understand what they are trying to say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:45 PM

I'm okay with "St. Paddy's" (short for Padraig) and I'm okay with "St. Pat's" (short for Patrick). It's "St. Patty's" that burns my toast. I see it all the time in restaurants and bars here in southern California. When I politely attempt to correct them (not very often...why get more annoyed?) they usually give me that bored "Whatever" look.


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Subject: RE: BS: Knickers in a Twist
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 07:38 PM

I could do this for days but to be honest, you all have covered most of my pet peeves I don't know what you call telemarketers in the UK but here they really are a pain in the ass and definitely get my knickers all twisted. Clinton, you are on a roll, Sir! I laughed at your post but you speak the truth. Also to whomever complained about bad spellers, I agree but keep in mind some of us are dislexic Thank God for Spell check (The preceding not a paid endorsement) My biggest knicker-twister is people who lie. Kindest reguards, Neil


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