Anger songs

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 05:57 PM

Slightly skewing the theme, a favorite of mine is "Baby It Ain't No Lie" by Elizabeth Cotten. Written when she was little about a neighbor woman who'd told a lie on her and got her in trouble :

"wish to my soul that old woman would die for tellin' her lies on me"

Dani

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 11:09 AM

Harris and the Mare.
McDonnell on the Heights.
Coal Tattoo.
If You Don't Look Around.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 10:33 AM

Thanks Freightdawg and oldhippie.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: GUEST,Volgodon
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM

Svyshenaya voina (holy war) the great WW2 Russian anthem.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 12 Nov 07 - 08:02 AM

The Blackleg Miner always gets sung with a certain amount of venom where I come from

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: freightdawg
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 11:01 PM

Dave Mallett did indeed write, "You Say That the Battle Is Over", but Denver performed it with great passion. I would not say that he sang it angrily, but with a great sadness.

Great song.

Freightdawg

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: topical tom
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 10:50 PM

There is pride, bitterness and anger in "The PatriotPATRIOT GAME
(Dominic Behan)

Come all ye young rebels, and list while I sing,
For the love of one's country is a terrible thing.
It banishes fear with the speed of a flame,
And it makes us all part of the patriot game.

My name is O'Hanlon, and I've just turned sixteen.
My home is in Monaghan, and where I was weaned
I learned all my life cruel England's to blame,
So now I am part of the patriot game.

This Ireland of ours has too long been half free.
Six counties lie under John Bull's tyranny.
But still De Valera is greatly to blame
For shirking his part in the Patriot game.

They told me how Connolly was shot in his chair,
His wounds from the fighting all bloody and bare.
His fine body twisted, all battered and lame
They soon made me part of the patriot game.

It's nearly two years since I wandered away
With the local battalion of the bold IRA,
For I read of our heroes, and wanted the same
To play out my part in the patriot game.

And now as I lie here, my body all holes
I think of those traitors who bargained in souls
And I wish that my rifle had given the same
To those Quislings who sold out the patriot game.
Game":

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: oldhippie
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 07:27 PM

Wasn't "You Say The Battle Is Over" David Mallett?

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bert
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 02:31 PM

Guess I missed this thread first time around.

John Denver's "You say that the battle is over" can be sung very angrily.

this one of mine starts off angrily.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: GUEST,Greg
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 01:27 PM

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Nov 07 - 12:22 PM

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: chico
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 03:54 AM

  [CAPO +2] AIR --- 'Andrew and his Cutty Gun' (Chords are slightly modified in this version below)
  
           Em             Bm           Am
  Wha the de'il ha'e we gotten for a king, 
         Em      G     Em  Bm
  But a wee wee German lairdie 
       Am              Em        G      
  And when we gaed to bring him hame 
          Em      B      Em  Am   G
  He was delving in his kail yairdie. 
           Em         G      Am 
  He was sheughin' kail and laying locks 
     G                 Am         B
  Without the hose and but the breeks, 
      Em      G        Am       Em
  And up his beggard duds he cleeks,  
       Am       G      B  Em  
  This wee wee German lairdie. 
  
  An he's clappit down in our gudeman's chair 
  The wee wee German lairdie 
  And he's brought forth o' foreign trash, 
  And dibbled them in his yairdie, 
  He's pu'd the rose o' English loons, 
  And broken the harp o' Irish clowns,  
  But our Scots thistle will jag his thumbs, 
  The wee wee German lairdie. 
  
  Come up amang our Highland hills 
  Thou wee wee German lairdie, 
  And see how the Stuart's lang kail thrive, 
  They dibbled in our yairdie: 
  And if a stock thou daur to pu' 
  Or hand the yokin' o' a plough, 
  We'll break your sceptre owre your mou' 
  Thou wee bit German lairdie. 
  
  Auld Scotland thou'rt owre cault a hold 
  For nursin' siccan vermin; 
  But the very dogs o' England's court 
  They bark and howl in German. 
  They keep thy dibble in thy ain hand, 
  They spade but and thy yairdie, 
  For wha' the de'il now claims your land 
  But a wee wee German lairdie!
  
  deil = devil, lairdie = small land owner, deving = digging, yairdie = garden, laying leeks=planting vegetables, but the hose 
  
  & but the breeks = without hose & trousers, clapt= sat down hastily, guidman's chair = throne, fouth= abundance, dibbled = 
  
  planted, loons = knaves, taps = tops, haud = hold, weir=war, gear = goods, winna pu'= will not pull, ower cauld= too cold, 
  
  claymore's shear = highland sword, siccan = such [Cromek's Remains of Nithsdale and Galloway Songs, 1810]

Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL TO CANADA
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 07 Dec 97 - 05:21 PM

Some of Robbie Burn's stuff is pretty angry sounding; Parcel of Rogues, for example. I was inspired by that song as a Canadian to write a Canadian version of it. At the risk of offending some of my American folkie counterparts, I'll share it with you. (It is definitely an anger song from a Canadian perspective, written during the time when our Prime Minister was Brian Mulroney.)

FAREWELL TO CANADA

Copyright 1991 by Moira Cameron
(Based on Parcel of Rogues, by Robert Burns.)

Farewell to all our Canadian fame
Farewell to our past glories.
Farewell even to our Canadian name
So rich in diverse history.
For now our culture is fading away
By the pull of southern temptation--
Our Prime Minister is swayed by the American way...
What a parcel of rogues in a nation!

What has happened to our Canadian pride
In ourselves and our uniqueness?
When we fought against the American tide,
Common wills betrayed no weakness.
But now our leaders openly invite
American infiltration--
They sacrificed our country and gave up our fight...
What a parcel of rogues in a nation!

I never would have thought I would see the day
When treason thus would sell us;
And will we simply watch as dreams slip away
Accepting what our leaders tell us?
Well, with all of my power and 'til my last hour
I will make this declaration:
We are bought and sold for American gold...
What a parcel of rogues in a nation!

HTML line breaks added. -JoeClone, 26-Jul-01.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Jerry Friedman
Date: 04 Dec 97 - 11:04 PM

Since this is one of those errors that spellcheckers don't catch--in "One Cold Morning" it's "I'd FAIN have my present." Fain meaning eager(ly), not feign meaning pretend, sham.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Jaxon
Date: 04 Dec 97 - 04:24 PM

Tommy Sands wrote "There Were Roses". There's no question he is angry about the sectarian strife in Northern Ireland. The last four lines, in particular, are intended to be sung angrily. Robbie O'Connell performs the original version of this song. Tommy had to change the names when the families of Isaac Scott and Sean McDonald objected to their names being used. Rise up Singing has the edited version.

Jack Murray

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Dec 97 - 03:47 PM

Five Foot Flirt is by Cyril Tawney..in the database..(it's getting so it safest to ASSUME a song is in the database...sometimes it isn't, but it saves a lot of time to look first..)

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bruce O.
Date: 04 Dec 97 - 03:04 PM

Text of Frankie Armstrong's "Crafty Maid's Policy" is in DT. A broadside text of the 1st half of the 19th century is reprinted in Vol. II of Holloway and Black's 'Later English Broadside Ballads', #17. They point out traditional versions of the same tale in which a boy is the hero.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: PJStreet
Date: 04 Dec 97 - 02:30 PM

Want a FUNNY angry song? This I heard performed in 1962 in London by a big singer named Red something. I think he wrote it:

You're a five-foot flirt in the guise of an angel; You'd better 'ad leave Oi alone! The things you are doin', they really unnerves Oi, The thing that preserves Oi Is my jovi-al-i-ty...

Though Oi've got trouble as thick as the stubble, 'Tis you that's the worst of it all. Get out of me track! If you want to come back, You can crawl, crawl, crawl.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 03 Dec 97 - 11:59 PM

The song about the woman tricking the gentlyman out of his horse was sung by Frankie Armstrong on one of her albums. She called it "The Crafty Maid's Policy"

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From:
Date: 03 Dec 97 - 09:35 PM

The Pogues version of "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" is sung angrily. Most pseudo-Pogues bands who try that style just end up snarling it viciously. I think of it more as more of a weary song.

Some songs have flashes of anger. Bruce Cockburn is always going on about something or other that annoys him, and I think he says god damn at one point. I've heard Garnett Rogers live, and he sounded pretty angry as he sang some of his songs, but I can't remember which ones. He was certainly loud enough.

I can think of a few petulant songs, but I assume that temper tantrums do not fall into the righteous anger category.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: alison
Date: 03 Dec 97 - 06:58 PM

sorry Tim,

I stand corrected. I thought you were referring to the lyrics posted in this thread, and am very relieved that you weren't.

Having now read the "House of Orange", ( yes it's in the database), I agree it's a good song. Nonie put it very well.

Slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Nonie Rider
Date: 03 Dec 97 - 05:14 PM

I agree wi' oor wee Timmy that Stan Roger's "The House of Orange" is a deeply moving song for peace; it's angry not with one side or the other, but with ANYONE who considers that old grudge to be worth the endless renewing of mutilation and murder and the teaching of children to hate.

But it's a song of restrained anger, not rage. "I took back my hand and I showed him the door" is the action of a civilized man.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: judy
Date: 03 Dec 97 - 05:03 PM

As per whether the "Wee, Wee, German Lairdie" is sung angrily, I've only heard it done that one time on the "The Thistle and Shamrock" and it wasn't spitting mad. But as the people "sung angrily thread" mention it came across to me in the words. When I sing "Mrs. McGrath I only sound angry in one verse. Anger throughout a whole song is a bit monotonous and might turn off the listeners rather than attract them to the message.

judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From:
Date: 02 Dec 97 - 06:26 PM

No, no, Stan Rogers' The House of Orange has nothing to do with the sentiments of the song posted above. Quite the opposite. It's on "From Fresh Water". Give it a listen.

"I took back my hand and I showed him the door
No dollar of mine would I part with this day
For fueling the engines of a bloody cruel war
In my forefathers' home far away

And so on. I suspect the words are in the database.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: alison
Date: 02 Dec 97 - 05:52 PM

HI

Paul Brady's "Nothing but the same old story" is an angry song he wrote about going off to find work in England in the 70's when to have an Irish accent meant that you were "nothing but a bunch of murderers."

Good song.

slainte

alison

Subject: Lyr Add: SWEET JOAN or CRAFTY MAID'S POLICY^^^
From: rastrelnikov
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 11:51 PM

I tried to post this last night but couldn't reconnect to Mudcat OH NO! Wow. I've just looked at Nell Flaherty's Drake. Wonderful. I hope I like the tune. Midi sounds so awful on my machine that it's difficult to tell so far.

From last night...

Everyone:

That bit about bitter songs towards women was a non sequiter. ...except that for angry songs, I always think of a nameless Welch song I once heard on The Thistle and Shamrock (NPR) which was chilling, unintelligble to me, and sung by a woman.

I think Follow Me Up to Carlow would also have that chilling, dangerous tone, even if you could not understand a word of English. (new thread)

Thanks for all the suggestions so far. Sounds like LOTS of people can think of LOTS of angry tunes...

Dani:

Mean Talking Blues sounds like the sort of song I'm looking for. I'll have to give it a hunt, then see if anyone I know can sing it for me :)

Alex:

The text to Revolution is MARVELOUS. So is the site. The direct link to the song is: http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/songs/texts/revolutn.htm#songtext I think I might buy Live in Edinburgh. I have Handful of Dust on vinyl and have recently come to appreciate it. Kudos to Dick Gaughan. I'll have a look back at his site later.

Bill D.: Wow. That Orangeman's song could certainly be chilling. I wonder why the Whiskey in the Jar chorus didn't die off as the song was passed along?

Judy: Thanks for the translations added to the German Laddie song. (Reminds me of Banks of Sicily -- does one sing the better version, or does one sing the Clancy's version that people can understand...see new thread). I'm currious to know whether it is SUNG angrily though. For example, you mention Mrs. McGrath. I've only heard Pete Seeger sing it (Mr. This machine surrounds hatred and forces it to surrender), and his version is very far from spittin' angry.

Leprechan: Re. taking the horse from between his legs. Here's one version, only a vague idea where it came from. It certainly never got angry. More triumphantly clever.

One Cold Morning

Come listen awhile and I'll sing you a song
Of three merry gentlemen riding along
They spied a fair maid and to her did say,
We're afraid that this morning will do you some harm

Her glance took them in, as well their black horses
A young lord's fine clothes and large purse, she espied
She saw his rough spurs and his finely-made pistol
She saw his black whip and his laughing, hard eyes

Oh, no, kind sir, said the maid, you're mistaken
To think this cold morning will do me some harm
There's one thing I crave and it lies twixt your legs
If you'll give me that, it will keep me warm

Well then since you want it, my dear, you shall have it
If you'll come with me to yonder green tree
Then, since you want it, my dear you shall have it
I'll make these two gentlemen witness to be

So smiling, she led him away from his fellows
And coyly, she led him 'round by the green tree
Saying, now we're alone, I'd feign have my present
Dismount from your horse, and give it to me

So the gentlemen lighted and straightway she mounted
And looking the gentleman straight in the face
Saying you knew not my meaning, you wrong understood me
And away she went galloping down the long lane

Oh, gentlemen, lend me one of your horses,
That I may ride after her down the long lane
If I overtake her, I warrant I'll make her
Return unto me, my own horse again

But soon as this fair maid she saw him a comin'
His finely-made pistol, she did take in hand
Saying doubt not my skill that you I would kill
I'd have you stand back or you are a dead man

So why must we spend our time here in talking?
And why must we spend our time here in vain?
Come give her a guinea, it's what she deserves
And I warrant she'll give you your horse back again

Oh no, kind sirs, you are vastly mistaken
His horse and provisions I do justly claim
He did give more but for now, he may keep it
And away she went galloping down the long lane

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bruce O.
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 10:43 PM

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Frank in the swamps
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 10:19 PM

As to Jacobite songs, the Scots song that blasts them "Ye Jacobites By Name" is quite angry,and actually seems to work best SUNG angry. It's a strong political condemnation of those who would impose their will on a nation, in disregard of the law, and makes a much stronger staement, in m.h.o. than most of the beautiful, but fancifully romantic Jacobite songs. It's in the database.

Frank.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 09:27 PM

in fact, in the version I sing, it even states "the razor blade was Sheffield made..."...maybe the German line was just added when it was standard practice to be mad at the Germans

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Jaxon
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 04:47 PM

In "William Bloat" the razor blade was British made and the rope was Irish linen. The first Irish commercial. The episode took place on the Shankill Road. I don't know where the German reference came from Jack Murray

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: judy
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 11:22 AM

Alison: Thanks for the info. Point well taken

Rastrelnikov,

Making negative remarks about the Germans again (my sincere apologies to all) is a very angry man who kills his wife and then commits suicide: "The Ballad of William Bloat" in the DT. But the joke is on him because because in the last verse we find out:

But the strangest turn to the whole concern
Is only just beginning.
He went to Hell but his wife got well
And she's still alive and sinning.
For the razor blade was German made
But the sheet was Belfast linen.

cheers,
judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Jon W.
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 11:14 AM

Wee wee German Lairdie: My little bit of research indicates that some Scots were disappointed and angry when the throne of the united kingdom of England and Scotland went to King William of Orange (Dutch?) and then to his cousins the Hanoverians (Georges I, II, and III) instead of to the house of Stuart (James) This is what precipitated the unsuccessful Jacobite rebellions. I'm sure there are others out there who know more.

As far as anger songs go, how about the blues? Check out these two verses from "32-20 Blues" by Robert Johnson:

If I send for my baby, man, and she don't come (2x)
All the doctors in Hot Springs sure can't help her none.

And if she gets unruly and says she don't want to (2x)
Take my 32-20 and cut her half in two.

(The 32-20 was a caliber of handgun)

Such angry, misogynistic lyrics are commonplace in the blues, but I generally refrain from singing them myself.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bruce O.
Date: 01 Dec 97 - 11:00 AM

Judy, (Wee wee Graman Lairdie)
James Hogg in Jacobite Relics really says little of its history, beyond that three lines of his version of the song were from an older collection than Remains of Nithsdale and Galloway Songs.

It's Scots, so this is really a question for Murray S., but he might not find it under this thread title.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: alison
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 09:51 PM

Hi,

The only thing written in my book about the "Wee wee German Lairdie" is that the knig being ridiculed was George the first.

I sincerely hope that all Canadians of Irish descent are not so bitter and predjudiced as the thread above suggests. It may not be an angry song but to a lot a people, (not just Orangemen) it is deeply offensive. we're mostly very nice friendly people, (both "sides"....I hate that term!)and the majority of us live together in peace.

end of rant

slainte

Alison

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: judy
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 09:37 PM

Bruce,
Do you have any history about the "Wee, wee German Lairdie?"
judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 08:24 PM

Some of the angriest song's I've ever seen were written by Eric Bogle; "Honest working man" comes foremost to mind. Some of Leon Rosselson's political songs are pretty angry.

I judge an 'angry' song by the feeling I have while singing it. Some anti-war songs, for example, I find are very provocative and sad, and perhaps make me feel angry as a subject in general, but not necessarily while I'm singing them. And then again, the feeling of the song invariably changes, depending on what mood I'm in, what political and social events are presently in the news, etc. For example, while participating in anti-Gulf War demonstrations, I felt a lot of anger while singing anti-war songs. I probably wouldn't feel that way about them right now, however.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 05:19 PM

I guess I don't mean what some other folk mean by anger. To my ears, anti-war songs like Johnny I hardly Knew Ye; IWW songs like The Wobbly Doxology and the Wobbly parody of Onward Christian Soldiers; songs of mis-requited love like Sportin' Batchelors; Leftish political songs like the Ribald Rebel's Song....all of these are mad as hell.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Bruce O.
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 05:05 PM

Wee wee Greman Lairdie. I know nothing about its background.

The earliest version that I know of is in Cromek's Remains of Nithsdale and Galloway Songs, 1810. It's on p. 177 of the 1880 reprint. Versions also appear in The Union Imperial Songbook, p. 236, 1815, and in Hogg's Jacobite Relics, I, p. 83, 1819.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: dani
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 02:47 PM

It may cross over in some other genres, but when I want to indulge a foul mood, Woody Guthrie's Mean Talking Blues usually does the trick.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Lidi
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 01:18 PM

How about Young Ned Of The Hill? Is it fair enough to say that that´s an angry song? Sláinte

Lidi

Subject: Lyr Add: WEE WEE GERMAN LAIRDIE^^^
From: judy
Date: 30 Nov 97 - 01:06 PM

Looking through my collections

Rastrelnikov,

You can add a great many songs of war to this thread of one people hating another. Many are sad more than angry. Here is one from the Jacobite Rebellion. I'm sure a better man (person) than I am (Gunga Din) will give us the exact history of this "German Lairdie" who came to sit on the throne of Scotland and was so dispised. I heard this song on "The Thistle and Shamrock" radio show sung by a woman. Mel Bay's "Songs of Scotland" has a version. I've tried to translate the difficult underlined words but, as you can see, some still need work. Anyone?


The Wee Wee German Lairdie
a Jacobite air

Verse I
Wha' the de'il hae we gotten for a King,
But a wee, wee German lairdie,
And when we gaed oot tae bring him hame,
He was delvin' in his yairdie (digging in his garden)
Wi'oot the hoose and but the breeks (without hose and trousers)
And up wi' his beggar duds he cleeks
This wee, wee German lairdie.

Verse II
And he's clappit doon in oor guidman's chair (sat down hastily in our throne)
The wee, wee German lairdie;
And he's brought fourth o' foreign trash,
And dibbled them in his yairdie (planted)
He's pu'd the rose o' English loons (knaves)
And broken the harp o' Irish clowns
But oor thistle taps will jag his thoons (tops)
This wee, wee German lairdie.

Verse III
Come up amang oor Heiland hills
Thou wee, wee German lairdie,
And see how the Stuarts' lang-kail thrive
They dibbled in oor yairdie;
And if a stock ye dare to pu', (stalk?)
Or haud the yokin' o' a plough,
We'll brak your sceptre ower your mou' (mouth)
Thou wee, wee German lairdie..

Verse IV
Oor hills are steep, oor glens are deep,
Nae fitting for a yairdie;
And oor Norland thistles winna pu',
Thou wee, wee German lairdie;
And we've the trenching blades o' weir, (war)
Wad prune ye o' your German gear (goods)
We'll pass ye 'neath the claymore's shear,
Thou feckless German lairdie!

Verse V
Auld Scotland, thou'rt ower cauld a hole
For nursin' siccan vermin; (such)
But the very dogs o' England's court
They bark and howl in German.
Then keep thy dibble in thy ain hand,
Thy spade but and thy yairdie;
For wha' the de'il now claims your land
But a wee, wee German lairdie?

judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: judy
Date: 29 Nov 97 - 03:36 AM

How about "Johnny Be Fair" in the DT about the girl who gets mad because she wants to get married and her father keeps telling her that her boyfriend(s) is really her brother. But when she complains to her mother, the mother says

Oh daughter, haven't I taught you to forgive and to forget
Even if this all is true, still you needn't fret
Your father may be father to all the boys in town, still
He's not the one who sired you, so marry who you will

and a mother's anger at war in "Mrs. McGrath"

judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From:
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 11:50 PM

I don't think Harris and The Mare is particularly angry. The anger is all over; he's already killed young Clary for hitting his wife and just wants to get his unconscious wife home.

Even Stan's The House of Orange is not particularly angry. It is however what most Canadians of Irish descent think when asked to contribute to "The Cause". I don't think it could be stated better.

Subject: Lyr Add: ONE SUNDAY MORNING^^
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 07:55 PM

ok....this is so angry it scares me...I'm curious about the origin...I have known it for 30 years and every now & then I sing it to make a point about things...don't even know the official title...'One Sunday Morning' is what I call it..

"One Sunday morning, while on me way to mass
"I met a bloody Orangeman and killed him for his brass
"I killed him for his brass, me boys, and sent his soul to hell
"And when he got back, he'd a strange tale to tell."

....Fol de rol de rol de rol--fol de rol de rol de ray
....Fol de rol de rol de rol--whiskey's in the jar-O

"When an Orangeman dies, they throw him in the hole
"His bones begin to rattle, and devil takes his soul
"The gates of Hell fly open, and the Devil shouts for joy,
"'I've a nice spot in hell for you, me bold Orange boy'"

...cho...

"If I had a yard of an Orangeman's skin
"I'd make it into drums for me bold, bonny men
" And when the drums would rattle, and the fife begin to play,
"Sure, we'd all march up to mass on St. Patrick's Day.!!"

....cho.....

the tune is stridant and chilling...I assume there are places where this is/was sung seriously...and I hope I never have to BE in that place.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: leprechaun
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 03:01 AM

Which reminds me of a song I heard years ago in which some fancy man rides up to a clever and beautiful woman who tells him she wants what's between his legs. He tells her she can have it. So she takes his horse. A deal's a deal.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: leprechaun
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 02:57 AM

Yes, Judy, Nell Flaherty's Drake has a wonderful string of invective!

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Earl
Date: 28 Nov 97 - 12:26 AM

I think "Sam Hall" was pretty angry.

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: rich r
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 11:38 PM

I think the "Unreconstructed Rebel" deriving from the post Civil War days is plenty angry and bitter.

rich r

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: judy
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 11:13 PM

Not anger towards women but how about "Nell Flaherty's Drake". It's got the best line up of curses.

judy

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Barry
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 10:15 PM

Sailors, too, wern't very fond of woman at the workplace, thought it would bring bad luck, (see Canadee-i-o in the DT). Some angry songs in the mining field or vein, Ewan McColl's "Go Down" & Ed Picket's "Ee Aye, Aa Cud Hew" or bordering on bitter/angry, Deborah Silverstein's "Draglines". Seams or seems that this may become a long thread, so here's a few more, "Crooked Jack", the Aussie transport song "Jim Jones, Stan Roger's "Harris & The Mare" & the Scottish version of "Geordie" & again bording on bitter/anger, from Northumbria & the 1715 rebellion "Drentwater's Farewell". Barry

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: Alex
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 09:45 PM

You want Angry? Check out the song REVOLUTION sung by Dick Gaughan on at least two of his albums. (http://www.dickalba.demon.co.uk/main.htm)

Subject: RE: Anger songs
From: rastrelnikov
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 09:03 PM

...yes, songs like Barrett's Privateers are angry, but they're not SUNG ANGRY. Ever try to sing Barrett's Privateers all the way through with an angry tone? It doesn't work. Comments?

Subject: Anger songs
From: rastrelnikov
Date: 27 Nov 97 - 09:01 PM

As I was reading the whiskey in the Jar thread, I remembered someone telling me that many songs from the old men-only mining camps were extremely bitter towards women. Yeah, yeah, lots of bitter songs out there. But curriously, the only real anger song I can think of is: Follow me Up to Carlow which isn't even traditional. Are there really no anger songs that survive for long?