Norma Waterson - information wanted

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 11:21 AM

The Butcher Boy.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 05:40 PM

Norma with all the family at Hull Truck, Sunday. Bloody brilliant!
JT murdering 'Flash Company' Wednesday, Folk on 2. Absolute crap!

How's that for subjective?

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 04:39 PM

Flash Company, that was a song percy webb and also cyril poacher used to sing.
who is JT,is this a popular music singer?
IMO it is always interesting to hear the source singers singing the songs,Iwould be surprised if Norma Waterson hasnt listened to source singers such as percy webb, singing Flash Company.Dick Miles

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 05:09 PM

Dick, JT is June Tabor.
I can assure you Norma was great friends with many of the old source singers, particularly Walter Pardon. Many of the family's songs were obtained directly from the source singers themselves.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 10 - 10:36 AM

well i never heard her[JT] sing Flash Company, But she[JT] used to be very good singing the song The Band played Waltzing Matilda.
In my opinion[JT] can on occasions be superb.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Aug 10 - 01:24 PM

here is anotherv version of rambleway or burlington fair
a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B_7pdBB-ts">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B_7pdBB-ts
not as good as Normas version, but not bad.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Apr 16 - 12:26 PM

If it's updated information you want, this interview is pretty good.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/what-s-on/music/a-special-gift-for-music-1-7017468

I thought of recommending this interview on another, more recent thread. But that thread is called Norma Waterson Unwell, and it would make people panic to see the thread-name again. So leave that thread be, and add to this one.

I've never seen Norma live, only her husband Martin Carthy.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 04 Apr 16 - 01:51 PM

I sawher live, with Eliza, a number of years ago in Bodmin, fantastic evening. Also saw Martin at a pub in Truro, highlights of my musical life...

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Kampervan
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 02:33 AM

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/what-s-on/music/a-special-gift-for-music-1-7017468

Link for Kereboxu's post above.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 07:29 AM

Saw Norma and family at Scarborough recently; she was on top form.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 31 Oct 17 - 02:39 PM

If I can provide the blicky link,
the same newspaper more recently published
an in-depth interview with Eliza Carthy.

Reading this account was the first time that I heard the information:
that "The Moral of the Elephant,"
recorded with Martin Carthy and Eliza Carthy -- father and daughter -- alone together,
was the compromise decided upon when
the original plan fell through:
previously Norma Waterson was to reunite with husband and daughter
for tne next album together,
and when Norma's health did not permit at the time,
the other two simply had to record without her.
That's news to me. Here's the story, I hope.

Eliza Carthy, 28 May 2017

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST,keberoxu
Date: 29 Nov 19 - 02:52 PM

My apologies if this sounds intrusive,
I know many of you are protective of Norma Waterson
(and who better to be protective of!).

I understand that the scheduled 2019 Normafest in Whitby
was cancelled because Norma Waterson
had been scheduled for an operation to do with her heart.

of course I join those who wish Herself better and well,
and I hope there will be, in the future,
Normafests again, with Norma Waterson. Thanks.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 29 Nov 19 - 04:13 PM

Norma occasionally chips in here. Hopefully she'll let us know how the op goes. (Positive news hopefully.)

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 29 Nov 19 - 07:15 PM

Martin and Eliza were performing in Edinburgh last Sunday: sadly I had to miss it, but heard they were "on fire"!

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GeoffLawes
Date: 03 Dec 19 - 09:30 AM



YOUTUBE Norma Waterson - An Introduction to Norma Waterson

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Aug 20 - 09:26 PM

Eliza Carthy, on her own webpages, reports that the recent lockdown
provided the long-postponed opportunity
for Norma Waterson to have what Eliza calls
"the long-awaited heart operation."

Eliza's report is dated 18 July, 2020 and says that
Norma Waterson is recovering at home,
"so she's still tucked up while
me and Dad and the kids just orbit around her, like the sun.
A sleepy, sometimes grumpy sun but a sun nonetheless!"

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST,ottery
Date: 25 Aug 20 - 04:58 AM

Thanks for sharing the update, keberoxu. V. glad to hear Norma Waterson is recovering well from the op. I've never met her, but recordings of her + family singing have been with me since childhood.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Jan 22 - 06:44 PM

The entire Waterson/Carthy household has been getting attention
-- in more recent threads -- with cancellations and postponements,
the whole household testing positive for the coronavirus,
need to raise funds, and so on.

I'm using/refreshing this thread to focus on Norma Waterson.
To sum up:
When Norma's illness (possibly COVID) progressed to pneumonia,
she went to hospital, and into isolation.
Treatment with steroids/antibiotics proceeded.
The rest of the Carthys did not need hospitalization
but they had to stay home and keep testing.
Finally the tests came up negative.

Martin Carthy has had to cancel/postpone/reschedule repeatedly.
He is now testing negative for coronavirus and feeling better.

On 28 January, Eliza Carthy posted this Tweet:
So sorry.
Mam still isn't out of the hospital . . .
rescheduled to 12 Feb.

That possibly explains why Martin Carthy has postponed
his online/streaming performance to the end of February.
Mr. Carthy DID however get in a live performance recently.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: GUEST,James Phillips
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 09:02 AM

Laughing at someone saying Norma Waterson "can't sing" in this thread. She has a very fine English folk voice. I frequently come across old recordings of folk singers who were said to be legendary in their circle, and have thought "my god, this person really cannot hold a note or a tune to save their life" and in fact sometimes I've even thought it was a quite horrible, scratchy sound. But Norma Waterson can most definitely hold a note and can articulate a melody very well. No she doesn't have the same kind of highly technical, smooth as butter ornamentation style that June Tabor has. But they are completely different kinds of folk singer. It's like trying to compare Suzi Quatro with Joni Mitchell.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 09:18 AM

Refreshatrix strikes again

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: r.padgett
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 10:05 AM

Please say a prayer for Norma, Martin and Eliza ~ Norma is very poorly at the moment

Ray

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 07:46 PM

Norma Waterson is still hanging in there.

Information from 12 January about how this latest crisis happened
(on the Facebook page for Eliza Carthy's Wayward Band):

"God I hate doing this. But you know I know -- our dear friends -- where we have been for the past dozen years [since the lengthy hospitalization for septicaemia/cellulitis]... our dear friend Mary Katherine has suggested I set up a portal for help, if you want...
"You might have picked up that mam has COVID -- pretty certain I brought it into the house from having tests at Scarborough Hospital. All five of us have it now: folks, two kids, and me.
"Mam was taken in [to hospital] yesterday, delirious and with pneumonia. We are supposed to be doing our first gigs of the year this weekend, and we don't know ... "


I am having trouble locating a link to the update that is most recent.
The one that says, "Mam has taken a turn."

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 07:54 PM

Rather better news in a post Eliza put on her Facebook page 6 days ago:

“Well, this is looking up! We’re FINALLY testing negative, and they will be releasing the mother TOMORROW!
Fingers crossed that we may be able to start our year tomorrow.
Yippee ?????? “

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: RTim
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 08:24 PM

Not so...She wrote this yesterday....

Hi,
   Mam has taken a turn. She phoned us this morning sounding full of the joys of Spring, but later in the afternoon she became very feverish and confused, had a seizure and is unconscious.
She has had a CT scan and her brain is fine, they were worried it was bleeding because of the fall she had five days ago. It's also not a chest infection so they are stumped as to what it is.
Dad has been allowed to go to her, he's going to hold her hand all night. He says she's aware that he is there as she occasionally squeezes his hand, but I do need to let you know that she is extremely poorly and the doctor say that the next 48 hours will be crucial.
She's on very hefty antibiotics and antiviral medicine, and he says it's all in hand.
But please, keep her in your thoughts tonight. I have to stay here with the children but hopefully I will be able to see her tomorrow.
Love from us.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 30 Jan 22 - 08:26 PM

Backwoodsman has posted the following on the Carthy Family needs assistance thread:

Norma is ‘extremely poorly’, and back in hospital. From Eliza’s FB page last night…

”Hi,
   Mam has taken a turn. She phoned us this morning sounding full of the joys of Spring, but later in the afternoon she became very feverish and confused, had a seizure and is unconscious.
She has had a CT scan and her brain is fine, they were worried it was bleeding because of the fall she had five days ago. It's also not a chest infection so they are stumped as to what it is.
Dad has been allowed to go to her, he's going to hold her hand all night. He says she's aware that he is there as she occasionally squeezes his hand, but I do need to let you know that she is extremely poorly and the doctor say that the next 48 hours will be crucial.
She's on very hefty antibiotics and antiviral medicine, and he says it's all in hand.
But please, keep her in your thoughts tonight. I have to stay here with the children but hopefully I will be able to see her tomorrow.
Love from us.
Xxxxe”

Every good thought for the Carthy family.

Subject: RE: Norma Waterson - information wanted
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 31 Jan 22 - 04:44 AM

Very sadly, Norma has very recently passed away, as reported by Eliza on Facebook this morning: see the new Obit thread.
Apologies for giving any false hope in my post above only hours ago.