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Songcatcher: Barbara Allen & other songs

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Subject: Songcatcher
From: jaze
Date: 12 May 01 - 11:36 AM

Vanguard Records website has a promotion for a new movie about the old traditional Appalachian/British ballds. A turn of the century college professor goes to Appalachia to research and find traditional ballds. There is also a cd called "Songcatcher" with a various country/folk artists singing ballads including Emmylou Harris, Dolly Parton and Iris Dement. The film was a Sundance winner. Finally, something for the rest of us.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Mr Red
Date: 12 May 01 - 12:40 PM

Historical Authenticity? Cornucopia for pedants?
I am interested what's it called? - "Songcatcher" too. Does it mention Cecil Sharp? or Maud Karpeles?


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 May 01 - 01:23 PM

My SO heard something about this last year, I thnik on NPR and said it sounded really good. He's very picky about movies, so it's something for him to think that sight unseen. I found a couple of things about it on the web:

I'm a storyteller and old-time banjoplayer in Dallas, TX, with a particular interest in Songcatcher. Judging from the reviews I've read, the movie seems to based on the book, "Songcatcher in Southern Mountains," by Dorothy Scarborough, AMS Press, June 1937, ISBN: 0404055699.

Although I have seen no mention of the book in the reviews or the credits, there are some very interesting similarities to consider. Scarborough was an English instructor at Columbia University when she researched and wrote her book. She did her Appalachian songcatching in the 1920s and 1930s, rather than the movie's 1907 setting, however. One movie reviewer notes an episode in which two vehicles cannot pass on the region's narrow roads. Scarborough described a similar event in her book. There is also a reference in the same review to the difficulty of transporting a phonograph through the hills. Again, Scarborough's book discusses the same problem on several occasions. At one point in the Asheville, NC, area, she was aided in her songcatching by Bascam Lamar Lunsford (sp?), a well-known lawyer, jack-of-many-trades, amateur folk music collector, fiddle and banjo player. (He wrote "That Good Ol' Mountain Dew.")

Unfortunately, Scarborough died before her book was published. A colleague at Columbia did the final editing. She had previously published "On the Trail of the Negro Folksong" and "The Wind" which became a successful movie.

I can't wait to see the movie, and hear the music. I hope "Songcatcher" is as good as Scarborough's book.

Dan Gibson, Storyteller/banjoplayer
Dallas, Texas

AND,

Boldly and authentically American in every way, SONGCATCHER reveals the discovery of some of this country's most treasured cultural foundations. But the film is also a skillfully woven tapestry of three separate love stories, as well as the portrait of a community and a landscape on the cusp of radical change. Working at the top of her form and with precise attention to period detail and the nuances of speech and song, Greenwald and her production team have created an intimate yet hardly utopian community in the rugged mountains of Appalachia.

It is 1907, and doctor of musicology Lily Penleric (Janet McTeer) escapes her stifling career in the male-dominated world of academia, taking a trip into the mountains to visit her sister (Jane Adams), who runs a rural school. There she discovers a fount of ancient folk songs – the roots of much of today's American popular music, encompassing country, fold, bluegrass and even rock and roll. As she goes about documenting her discovery a whole world is opened up to her and to us.

McTeer gives a tremendous performance as Penleric, while Aidan Quinn and Pat Carroll deliver memorable turns as fiercely independent – and fiercely proud – mountain people. Seekers of new talent should keep an eye out for 13-year-old Emmy Rossum, who makes an understated, indelible debut and fans of American music should look for cameos by Iris DeMent, Hazel Dickens and Taj Mahal. One of the most significant Mansfields's vast knowledge of traditional American music informs just about everything we hear in the film, from ballads to bluegrass to Mansfield's own hauntingly romantic score. Emmylou Harris has recorded new music for the film. SONGCATCHER is produced by Ellen Rigas Venetis and Richard Miller.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Peg
Date: 13 May 01 - 11:02 AM

I saw the film and reviewed it for the Phoenix. One of the characters is based on Cecil Sharp. It does sound like it must be based on that book you describe, kat.

There is some good singing in it; but for some reason the score is your typical syrupy Hollywood thing; why they did not utilize the folk music the film is about, in the score, is beyond me.

Well worth watching, though. Emmy Rossum is great!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: GUEST
Date: 13 May 01 - 12:33 PM

Where did they get the tin can banjo!?!?!? I need one!!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 13 May 01 - 01:03 PM

Tin Can Banjo:  Steve Parks (Gallery 2)


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Butch
Date: 13 May 01 - 03:17 PM

Time for some shameless self promotion. I made the cookie tin banjo for the movie as well as the mountain banjo. I even restored s few instruments used in the production. If you need to find me try www.wunderbanjo.com

clickable link added by a joe clone


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 May 01 - 05:21 PM

welcome to the Mudcat, Butch. That's a pretty neat "found object" BANJO. I've just emailed the link to my sister. She is an elementary music teacher. Her older students have been making their own instruments this spring and i am sure they will enjoy seeing your banjo.

Thanks, Malcolm for the link.

kat


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Peg
Date: 13 May 01 - 07:49 PM

cool, Butch!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 May 01 - 09:35 AM

I haven't seen it and I'm sorry to hear that the music was less than what it should have been. A great chance to use the music collected and they didn't take it? I did see it got mixed reviews on that when it came out.

There is a character named Parley Gentry played by Muse Watson, the same actor who created the hook wielding Ben Willis in the "I Know What You Did Lasst Summer" films.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: bet
Date: 14 May 01 - 12:16 PM

Hey Malcon, Sam, a 4th grader of mine just made a tin can banjo, looks a lot like yours only the can was the type you get cookies in and he strung it with fishing wire ( not great strings but he was happy). He'll love seeing the picture of yours. I might add he's a very good student and does well at what ever he does. Not much of a singer but he loved our unit on building simple folk instruments. Betty


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:01 PM

I made a 5-string banjo out of a bedpan (a PANJO). Cathy Fink owns it now and I've a photo of Pete Seeger picking it in Cathy's kitchen.

Also, for years I did shows in and around Chicago mostly with a dulcimer made from a Star Wars lunchbox. It looked more like a banjo --the box with a neck--but it only had 3 strings and was fretted with staples from a regular stapler that were spaced like a mountain dulcimer.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:09 PM

Say bet, did kat link you the thread on making a stick dulcimer?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: GUEST,bet
Date: 16 May 01 - 10:18 AM

catspaw, yes I got the link, thank you. I'm going to make them next year when I have more time to get supplies ready. We'll be making them early in the year and using them in class all year. That should give the kids a chance to really get an idea of how to play it on their own before they take them home. It will also give them something to do while they are waiting their turn on the keysboards which are scheduled to be here this week according to Pepsi.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: GUEST,witney@spiderweb.com.au
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 05:40 AM

I enjoyed the movie, loved the way they sang the whole song and not just snippets. It was presented in independent theatres here, not the larger cinema chains.The banjo styles were mostly the full on frailing style and not the gentler melodic,drop thumb style etc.However the authentic appalachian singing style got to me after awhile and I enjoyed hearing Emmylou's version at the end.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Mike Byers
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 09:44 AM

Another bedpan banjo? That's great! Bruce Cunningham, a luthier from Battle Ground, Indiana made one of these several years ago, and it sounds pretty darn good. If you come by the Indiana Fiddler's Gathering in Battle Ground this weekend, you might get to hear it played.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Peter T.
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 11:04 AM

It is worth pointing out in narcissistic fashion that the Mudcat Star Trek story in the earlier threads was in part -- my part -- based on Dorothy Scarborough's memoirs. That is where the Songcatchers there came from.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 05:59 PM

I couldn't go to the Old Fiddler's Gathering at Battleground this weekend because I had a half-hour featured spot in Indianapolis, at the 27th Annual Eagle Creek Folk Festival yesterday. Sang and like-minded songs with guitar and with banjo. Went very well, thank you.

Well, ya can't be everyplace, I guess.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:13 PM


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:09 PM

Because I don't know which of the 10 threads someone may be tracing, I'm posting this on ALL of the "Songcatcher" threads.

Our good member annamil has a video store and I asked her to check on the " of the movie being available on videotape and as she always does, came through for us. Here is what she posted:

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I just called my dealer and he says it will be out Oct 23rd and I will pre-book it Oct 1st. You won't be able to buy it for awhile, but you will be able to rent it. I didn't know about this movie til I read this thread and I only read this thread because someone mentioned it in another thread. I can't wait to see it and more importantly, I can't wait to HEAR it.

I'm not sure how many I should order for the store as this is the first I've heard of it.

From what I heard and read here, it may be worth 10 threads ;-)

Love, Annamill

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So go bug your local videostore and tell them you want to rent "Songcatcher." And when you do.........Don't start another freakin' thread huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:33 PM

OK.. So when this film came out, I

a) never saw a trailer because I rarely saw television.

b) would not have been interested (at the time) in the music my Gammy from West Virginia used to sing

c) was to skint to pay to go to the theatre, if I had known about it and was interested

and

d) did not have access to a DVD player until I moved to UK in 2003

NOW I am

a) keenly interested in the music my Gammy sang

b) think this film looks brilliant

c) can afford to buy the film

and

d) have a DVD player/hardrive recorder

BUT

a) can only buy the NTSC Region 1 DVD from Amazon UK

b) my player doesn't play Region 1 NTSC



I WANT THIS FILM!!!!!

Why oh why cannot there be a global format for all equipment and films? Just not fair.

boohoo


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: open mike
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:28 PM

i thought dvd format was quite universal...
not as different as PAL/NTSC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songcatcher

Iris Dement is in this movie, too, as i recall.

or was that Cold Mountian or OH bROTHER?


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:35 PM

Iris Dement is in the film and I only found out about it because I was youtubing Iris' Let the Mystery Be and got curious about her other stuff. Found the song she did in the film, then followed through to trailers and did some searching for film info.

I want it and can't have it, unless I buy special equipment to play it.

We may be able to hack the DVD/hardrive recorder with a one for all universal remote. I little glimmer of hope.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: michaelr
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:38 PM

If your computer has a DVD player built in, chances are it will play discs encoded for any region. I have several UK only-release DVDs, such as Transatlantic Sessions and Moving Hearts, that won't play in my regular player (I'm in USA), but the computer lets me watch them just fine.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: open mike
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 07:52 PM

Iris is an amazing artist..i think i will start a new thread for her..


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Ref
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 09:49 PM

Buy the sound track album. The film is horrible. It's poorly scripted, the actors are wasted (Aidan Quinn is just not believable in his role), and the production values are low. It struck me as disrespectful of the traditions. Then again, if you have money to waste, perhaps you'll find ways to disagree with me.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:18 AM

My partner owns it - but on VHS, so sadly I can't burn you a copy, VT.

The most hilarious portrayal is the Cecil Sharp character, who appears for about a minute and a half (in the scene mentioned above about the two cars not being able to pass each other in the narrow road) - and is every inch Mr Toad.

It's not the best film ever made - there's a lesbian sub-plot which feels a bit gratuitous and unnecessary and, as someone said earlier, it's not a brilliant script and the production values are fairly low. But I defy you not to have chills when that little girl starts singing Barbry Allen - it's worth seeing for the music, without a doubt.

...and I found out after seeing it that one of my college friends is now married to David Patrick Kelly, who plays the panto-villian-style land agent out to buy everyone's homes from under them (BOOOOOO!!)


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Ref
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 07:37 AM

I got no chills because it was all so ham-handedly set up. "Git paid fer saaaaaangin'?" Jeebus what a waste of a fine young actress/singer!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: BB
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 09:22 AM

Believe me, it's worthwhile just for the singing (of which there's plenty).

We've shown it to lots of people, and all have enjoyed it immensely for that reason.

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: nickp
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 10:38 AM

V T, I'll PM you.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: meself
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 10:48 AM

I really enjoyed the singing, and I'd watch it again just for that.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 05:37 PM

I just saw it again this week.

Mostly, the songs were good, though usually cut off too short. With one exception, they seem to be authentic. The exception is near the end, perhaps the last song, something like The Mountains Cry, which has written-for-the-film written all over it.

And I have to complain that the good Perfessor who comes in by car is far, far from being credible. He looks like something that Disney would have dreamed up as a comic character in Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:38 PM

Emmy Rossum did a fine job of learning how to sing Appalachian style--she was (is still) a young actress from New York City with an opera background coached by Sheila Kay Adams. For the real thing, listen instead to Elizabeth LaPrelle , a young singer from southwestern Virginia who sings even better than the character of Deladis Slocum, and who know far more of Appalachian balladry than the few excerpts Emmy Rossum learned for the film.

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 07:49 AM

Haven't seen this movie yet. Maybe I'll start a thread about who hasn't seen it and why - just for Spaw.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:07 AM

I have to disagree with those who didn't like the film, particularly with the depiction of Sharp.
I don't really think the character was supposed to be Sharp any more than the leading lady was supposed to be Dame Olive Campbell - the film was a work of fiction and in no way intended to be taken as a documentary.
It was, as far I'm concerned, a well told, acted and filmed story which made excellent use of traditional singing and music - a rare enough occurence, to be welcomed rather than nit-picked over.
As for the depiction of the English collector - I wonder how an English gentleman whose natural habitat was the midde-class drawing room would have appeared and behaved - fish out of water is the term that springs to my mind.
Having said this, it is all credit to Sharp, whatever his failings, that despite his upbringing, his background and his poor health, he worked the miracles he did and left us such a magnificent legacy.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 09:09 AM

PS:
Why wasn't it more widely seen? Because it wasn't Die Hard 4, that's why!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: fretless
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 11:10 AM

Ref suggested buying the sound-track album. If you do, and if you end upp with the "sound-track" I got stuck with, you will be disappointed. Some studio hack decided that for the sound track they should shift to professional performers, which means that the so-called sound track isn't. Instead it is a pretty boring compilation of music from the movie, but without any of the authentic "sound." Unless there is another, and authentic, sound track album out there, in which case please send a link.

I loved the music in this movie, especially the juxtaposition of the two versions of Barbara Allen that open the story. The plot and scripting, on the other hand, were unimpressive, humorless, and predictable, with stereotyped characters. Remember, this one hit the big screen around the same time "Oh Brother" was released. One could easily be offended by Oh Brother's characterizations, but at least there was imaginative scripting to go along with the music.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 11:53 AM

There is a second album - it's called Songcatcher II - the Tradition that Inspired the Movie and includes nmaterial by Doc Watson, Almeda Riddle and Dock Boggs. It was released as a response to those who complained that the original CD was too 'modern.' It was released by Vanguard Records in 2002.

I saw the film on HBO in a hotel room in Niagara and bought the DVD and the two albums in Toronto a couple of days later. The DVD played perfctly on my British DVD player until we bought a new one. It won't work on this one!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 12:07 PM

Fretless--
There wasn't any original soundtrack album--the singers in the movie only learned the portions of the songs that they sung in the film.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 12:32 PM

The first CD was called Songcatcher - Music from and inspired by the motion picture. It includes artistes such as Rosanne Cash, Emmylou Harris and Dolly Parton.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 12:48 PM

Terry

You can usually google the hack code for DVD players so that you can get them to play different regions.

Please don't ask me what that means. I pride myself on my technical knowledge but that was pure geek to me. I am only parroting what my husband says and what I have read in other threads and pms.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 01:15 PM

Thanks - I'll ask the youngest son who's good at such things to have a go at it!


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Ref
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 05:08 PM

I stand corrected on the soundtrack issue. I maintain that it is a poorly made film. The music is fine.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Stringsinger
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 06:43 PM

It's funny, I usually remember a film that I've seen in detail. This one eluded me for some reason. I also liked the Barbara Allen juxtaposition. That was a good touch.

Aside from Dorothy Scarborough, might there have been a reference to Jean Thomas
(The Traipsin' Woman)? Also, Sidney Robertson Cowell, wife of Henry Cowell the composer did a bit of traipsin' in the backwoods of the Appalachians as well. She uncovered was was known as a "white spiritual", "Sometimes I Feel Like A Motherless Child, which is sung typically as a moody classical music version n the style of an African-American spiritual. I believe that she was the first one to document this song sometime in the early thirties. (don't remember the chronology). Ronnie Gilbert and I attempted to do this on a Weavers at Carnegie Hall album the way I had heard it done on Cowell's field recording.

Frank


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:58 AM

Virginia,
go to this website http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks
and locate your dvd player.
you may be able to set it (Hack) to play all regions.
(the process is to open a secret menu for region code by entering a sequence of commands and numbers using your remote control, then set the region code to play all regions).
NOT all players can be modified, so read the posts carefully for your model.
Many very in-expensive players are available which can be modified.
So far this is not the case with blu-ray, though there are a few in the 300-500 price range.
pm me if you have questions.
Good luck, Thomas.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: BB
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:09 AM

I rather like the fact that they used 'Barbara Allen' again at the end, in a more commercialised form, to attract the general public to the music. I didn't say I liked the arrangement, just the way in which it was used in the film to point up what was likely to happen to much of the 'real' music.

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: Stringsinger
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:05 AM

Barbara Allen was revived in print after being lost for many generations. My source for this
is Sam Hinton. It's an instance of the printed word furthering the tradition.


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Subject: RE: Songcatcher
From: meself
Date: 15 Jun 10 - 02:40 PM

"Barbara Allen was revived in print after being lost for many generations. My source for this
is Sam Hinton. It's an instance of the printed word furthering the tradition."

This strikes me as an odd claim - can you elaborate?


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