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songs about cider

GUEST,joan 13 May 01 - 09:43 PM
Stewie 13 May 01 - 09:58 PM
Stewie 13 May 01 - 10:04 PM
DonMeixner 13 May 01 - 10:57 PM
GUEST,John Gray / Australia 13 May 01 - 11:20 PM
katlaughing 13 May 01 - 11:21 PM
Bert 14 May 01 - 03:02 AM
GUEST,Mr Red@Library 14 May 01 - 10:10 AM
GUEST,Mr Red again 14 May 01 - 10:21 AM
Charley Noble 14 May 01 - 10:57 AM
GUEST,JohnB 14 May 01 - 12:42 PM
LR Mole 14 May 01 - 01:31 PM
SINSULL 14 May 01 - 01:41 PM
Charley Noble 14 May 01 - 02:50 PM
Joe_F 14 May 01 - 07:34 PM
Art Thieme 14 May 01 - 09:28 PM
katlaughing 14 May 01 - 10:08 PM
John P 15 May 01 - 09:19 AM
Charley Noble 15 May 01 - 09:43 AM
GUEST,John Gray / Australia 15 May 01 - 11:08 AM
GUEST,Karen 15 May 01 - 11:17 AM
Charley Noble 15 May 01 - 11:04 PM
John P 16 May 01 - 09:32 AM
Ship'scat 17 May 01 - 04:26 AM
Ship'scat 17 May 01 - 04:56 AM
Stewie 17 May 01 - 05:24 AM
JeZeBeL 17 May 01 - 02:17 PM
Mr Red 17 May 01 - 09:44 PM
Barbara 18 May 01 - 01:10 AM
Mr Red 19 May 01 - 06:48 PM
Allan C. 19 May 01 - 07:38 PM
Peg 20 May 01 - 10:34 AM
Stewie 20 May 01 - 08:24 PM
Stewie 20 May 01 - 08:45 PM
Sandy Paton 21 May 01 - 12:48 AM
Dave the Gnome 21 May 01 - 05:05 AM
Mr Red 31 May 01 - 03:13 PM
Charley Noble 31 May 01 - 03:26 PM
Mr Red 04 Jun 01 - 03:46 PM
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Subject: songs about cider
From: GUEST,joan
Date: 13 May 01 - 09:43 PM

I'm looking for songs about (apple) cider, either hard or sweet. Songs about drinking cider would be fine, but about making cider would be even better. Does anyone know of any? Thanks. Joan


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Stewie
Date: 13 May 01 - 09:58 PM

There's this one in the DT:

Dead Dog Scrumpy

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Stewie
Date: 13 May 01 - 10:04 PM

On second thoughts, that stuff will probably give you the DTs. If you put the word 'cider' (without quote marks) in the Digitrad and Forum Search box on the main forum page, you will have numerous 'hits' in the DT and the forum.

Cheers, Stewie.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: DonMeixner
Date: 13 May 01 - 10:57 PM

"Johnnie Jump Up" and "Drink Up The Cider."


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia
Date: 13 May 01 - 11:20 PM

I don't think you can beat Dickens Cider. Every time I hear that front porch discussion from the boys in Maine it breaks me up.

JG / F.M.E.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 May 01 - 11:21 PM

Art Thieme has a great one on one of his tapes, for the life of me I cannot remember the name nor find it in the threads, and I know I talked about it in one of them. I hope he sees this thread and posts the name of it here. I didn't see it in the DT, either, at least not searching with "cider" and/or "cider mill."


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Bert
Date: 14 May 01 - 03:02 AM

Of course, you could always go to the Digitrad Lyrics Search, above and key in cider, you'll find many hits.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,Mr Red@Library
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:10 AM

There is one written by Ted Amphlett - never met the guy but 'tis sung in Worcestershire occasionally
laconic humour would best describe it
"My native roots are cankered, all along Evesham's green Vale"
then there is the line about the cider houses... "at various adresses that nobody talks about!"
I did have the words once but lost them. I do know a man who sings them and might bump into him
If & when I will post here
hten there is the incantation for the "Bush burning" ceremony that Dave Jones used to do on New Years Eve in his orchard at Putley
I have his widows e-mail so will try to get that
Westons Cider in Much Marcle might be able to help.
and the cider museum in Hereford should have a few
Long Live Cider. Long Live My Brain
tick one of the above


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,Mr Red again
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:21 AM

Johnny Coppin composed many songs based on Laurie Lee and his writings.
try looking for his record/CD's "I think he called the Laurie Lee one "the Edge of Day"
I went to a play written by him about Ivor Gurney & remember a song about "easing the vent" which was a barrel of cider I think.
Paul Burgess was in it and he has taken over from Johnny on the Radio Gloucester folk prog, Sat eve I think.
I will bump into Paul soon so can ask.
Johnny's wife is very ill and on a second round of chemo so he may be preoccupied right now.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:57 AM

John Gray – what is this Dickens Cider? I'm from Maine and I've never run across it.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 14 May 01 - 12:42 PM

There is a vague recollection of an older English song with part of the chorus "sipping cider through a str-oh-aw Adge Cutler and the Wurzels did "Drink up the Cider". "Fathom the Bowl" mentions cider in one verse. JohnB


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: LR Mole
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:31 PM

The cutest girl (the cutest girl)I ever saw (I ever saw)Was sippin' ci...(Was sippin ci...)der through a straw (Der through a straw...)...
haven't thought of that for thirty years anyway.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 May 01 - 01:41 PM

Ida, Sweet As Apple Cider, a stretch but...


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 May 01 - 02:50 PM

Than there's that fly that "wriggled, and wiggled, and tickled in cider."


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Joe_F
Date: 14 May 01 - 07:34 PM

When de falling apple season's chust begun / An de vormy apples fall from off de trees / An der caterpillars mit deir hair in curls / Pick dem apples up to make sweet ci-der. / Ah, vimmens! Ah, mens.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 May 01 - 09:28 PM

The song I believe Kat is referring to isn't about cider. It's about making sorghum syrup by feeding cane into a press and squeezing the juice out by having a horse or a mule walk around and around a large circle area. The juice is boiled down in a large iron pot until the syrup is done. The song is called "By And By" (mis-spelled by me on my 1998 CD as "Bye And Bye".)

Whatever. Sorry!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 May 01 - 10:08 PM

Oh, shoot! Thanks, anyway, Art. Sorry for the CRS!


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: John P
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:19 AM

There is a Breton song called "Son ar chistr", which I'm told means "Song of Cider". I could dig up the lyrics if you have any use for non-English songs.

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:43 AM

Then there's the "Apple Picking Song" whose chorus runs "Hey, ho, feel so fine, Looking out across the orchard in the bright sunshine; Hey, ho, feel so free, Sitting in the top of an apple tree."

Reminds me of that arcane discussion of how animals were loaded into Noah's Arc – you, know the one that states that all the animals came in pairs, all 'cept the worms who came in apples...


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia
Date: 15 May 01 - 11:08 AM

Charley Noble ; Dickens Cider is a wav file that was emailed to me. It goes for 90 seconds or so and is very funny. I don't know if there is a real Dickens Cider from Maine but this is a play on words, dick-in-side-her. With lyrics like, I make sure I have a Dickens Cider every day, and, My wife doesn't let me go a day without a Dickens Cider, it makes one think that if there is such a brew it would outsell Viagra.

JG / F.M.E.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,Karen
Date: 15 May 01 - 11:17 AM

Following on John P.'s note, there's a cider drinking song on Chieftains' Celtic Wedding CD called "Ev Chistr 'Ta Laou!". Is that the one you meant, John?


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 May 01 - 11:04 PM

Well, you never know till you ask! Thanks, John.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: John P
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:32 AM

Karen,
Yes, it's the same song. I learned it from an Alan Stivell record. It's the same melody that Ray Fisher and then Martin Carthy used for "Willie's Lady"

John Peekstok


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Ship'scat
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:26 AM

At least the website and t-shirts are done


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Ship'scat
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:56 AM

Trying again. Here's the Dickin's Cider site

here


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Stewie
Date: 17 May 01 - 05:24 AM

There are links to a couple of oldtimey ones on this page:

Click Here

--Stewie.


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Subject: Lyr Add: JOHNNY JUMP UP^^^
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 17 May 01 - 02:17 PM

JOHNNY JUMP UP

I'll tell you a story that happened to me,
One day as I went down the yard by the sea.
The sun it was bright and the day it was warm,
Says I a quite pint wouldn't do me no harm.

I went in to the barman, said give me a stout,
Says the barman I’m sorry, all the beer 't has sold out
Try whisky or Vodka, ten years in the wood,
Says I I’ll try cider, I've heard that it's good.

O never, o never, o never again,
If I live to an hundred or a hundred and ten
'Cos I fell to the ground and I couldn't get up,
After drinking a pint of that JOHNNY JUMP UP!

Etc....

Can't remember all the words but it's amusing!

Emma xxx

HTML line breaks added --JoeClone, 30-Sep-01.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 May 01 - 09:44 PM

Are lymerics any good? heres a trad one
There was a young woman from Ryde
who ate cider apples and died
the apples fermented, inside the lamented
which made cider inside her inside
write your own tune!!!


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Barbara
Date: 18 May 01 - 01:10 AM

There's a tune for that limerick. I've sung it as a round. Gimme a day or two and maybe I can write it out.
There's also a verse of some Wassail, Somerset? that goes "bud and blossom, bud and blossom, bud and bloom and bear/So we shall have apples and cider all next year/ Apples all in bushel baskets, boxes, bags, and all/ And the cider running out of every gutter hole."
DT calls it " Here We Come a-Wassailing" and it's right here.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 May 01 - 06:48 PM

I saw the tape by Johnny Coppin yesterday - Edge of Day. Side 2 "First Taste of Cider" and it was inspired by "Cider with Rosie" by Laurie Lee. Hope it helps


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 May 01 - 07:38 PM

"Well I ain't got no use for your Red Apple Juice..." is the opening line of a song called Red Apple Juice. I do not know of a source that is still "in print" for this song. It appeared on an album by a group called Hickory Wind on the Flying Fish label. I have been looking everywhere to find a copy.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Peg
Date: 20 May 01 - 10:34 AM

check this out:

www.ciderday.org


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Stewie
Date: 20 May 01 - 08:24 PM

Allan C, that is the first line of 'Red Rocking Chair', a song that has only that incidental mention of cider. The Hickory Wind album was 'Fresh Produce'. I don't think it has made it to CD - however, I recall seeing somewhere on the Net that something by Hickory Wind has been reissued on CD, possibly their 'At the Wednesday Night Waltz' that was on Adelphi. Fine group they were.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Stewie
Date: 20 May 01 - 08:45 PM

Allan C, I found the CD that I mentioned in previous posting - it is a compilation of stuff from 70s called 'Lafayette's Retreat'. There is no track listing, but an email address for seeking info.

Lafayette's Retreat

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 21 May 01 - 12:48 AM

Check out "In Old Pod Auger Times" in the DT. I can't seem to get to it tonight to make sure of the reference, but the version we sing, which was collected by Helen Hartness Flanders in Vermont, refers to cider in the final verse.

Folks didn't have delirium tremens
Nor perpetrate horrible crimes,
For the cider was good and the rum was pure
In old pod auger times.

It's on an LP we made donkey's years ago which is now available only as a custom cassette from Folk-Legacy. (We, by the way, refers to me and my wife Caroline.)

Sandy


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 May 01 - 05:05 AM

Not actualy about cider but the song that jumped to my mind has the lines 'We're all up from Somerset (Pronounced zumerzet) where the cider (pr. zider) apples grow.' in the chorus. If I remember rightly it's poking fun at the establisment and royalty in a nice sort of way. But my memory is sort of errm, thingy, nowadays.

Dave the Whatsit

(Probably too much cider....)


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Subject: Lyr Add: EVESHAM CIDER
From: Mr Red
Date: 31 May 01 - 03:13 PM

EVESHAM CIDER (presumed Title)

My native roots are cankered along the Avon Vale
There's poison in each tankard and the scrumpy makes them pale
All along that pleasant valley where the vegetables grow fine
Men raise the Devil's chalice and drink his bitter wine

Unspeakable carouses that fill our hearts with shame
Take place in certain houses that cannot here be named
Black timber and white plaster hide the secret drinking dens
Where Beelzebub is master of the cider drinking men

But in spite of church and chapel ungodly folk there be
Who pluck the cider apple from the cider apple tree
They crush it in their presses till all the juice runs out
At various addresses that nobody knows about

But if my time suffices until my days are done
I'll go back and share those vices of dear old Evesham
I'll watch the red sun sinking behind those Malvern Hills
For we knows it's better medicine than all those bloody pills

words written by Ted Amphlett
as remembered by Tony Lloyd, regular at the Nags Tail FC in Malvern.
FC now closed.

If you give me an e-mail address (via 'Cat personal messages) I might be able to put one verse into .MP3 format. I don't guarrantee that the folk process doesn't add to the tune!


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Charley Noble
Date: 31 May 01 - 03:26 PM

Mr. Red, that's a keeper! Is the tune a familiar one?


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 03:46 PM

No but it is simple and repetetive
I should put it on my website But as it is not mine I am a bit iffy about permission.
Oh! I guess I will soon anyways - MP3
lets say sort of over the next 4 weeks try looking on cresby.com


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: ermintrudeclaire
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 03:53 PM

to john gray could you possibly email the dickens cider wav file to me? claire.sidebottom@ntlworld.com many thanks


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Subject: LyrAdd: Up Fron Somerset
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 05 May 05 - 01:35 PM

UP FROM SOMERSET
Words Fred E Weatherly, Music Wilfrid Sanderson

Oh, we came up from Somerset
To see the Great Review,
There was Mary drest in her Sunday best
And our boy Billee too.
The drums were rolling rub-a.dub,
The trumpets tootled too,
When right up rode His Majesty,
An' says "An' who be you?"

"Oh we'm come up from Somerset,
Where the cider apples grow,
We'm come to see your Majesty
An' how the world-do go.
An' when you're wanting anyone,
If you'll kindly let us know,
We'll all come up from Somerset,
Because we loves you so ?"

Then the Queen she looked at Mary,
"An' what's your name?" she said,
But Mary blushed like any rose,
An' hung her pretty head.
So I ups an' nudges Mary,
"Speak up an' tell her, do!"
So she said "If you please your Majesty,
My name is Mary too!"

"An' we'm come up from Somerset,
Where the cider apples grow,
Where the gals can hem an' sew an' stitch,
And also reap and hoe.
An' if you're wantin' any gals
An' will kindly let us know,
We'll all come up from Somerset,
Because we loves you so!"

Then the King looked down at Billee-boy,
Before they rode away;
An' what is he going for to be?"
His Majesty did say.
So Billee pulled his forelock,
An' stood up trim and true,
"Oh I'm going to be a soldier, Sir,
For I wants to fight for you !"

"For we'm come up from Somerset,
Where the cider apples grow,
For we're all King's men in Somerset,
As they were long, long ago.
An' when you're wanting soger boys,
An' there's fighting for to do,
You just send word to Somerset
An' we'll all be up for you !"


Words transcribed from sheet music (single song) published by Boosey & Co Copyright 1913
NP


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,cromdubh
Date: 05 May 05 - 01:46 PM

Sean Tyrrel has a lovely song called "the orchard". Not sure if it`s his or someone elses. Ìt`s the title track of an album of his.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 05 May 05 - 01:51 PM

And there's this barber-shop-esque thing from 19 hundred and frozen to death: click here


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: wildlone
Date: 05 May 05 - 02:13 PM

There is this song posted in the forum, It seems it never made it into the digitrad.
Fill up the cider cup
Writen by Bonny Sartin Recorded on Dorset My Dorset. CD YETCD 3012

dave


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,mick finnigan
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 07:26 AM

Hi i am also looking for the dickin cider wave file and would be greatful if any one can email me a copy as the one i had got corrupted. My email address is mickyfyn242@ntlworld.com

Thanks in advance


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Mick Tems
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:52 AM

...So here's to old cider and here's to new cake
And here's to us poor lads must go before daybreak
For our time it is precious, we can no more stay here
May the good Lord God grant you a happy new year.

The Monmouth Wassail, from Calennig's debut album Songs And Tunes From South Wales, GVRCD 214, (1980).


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: Jim I
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 03:31 PM

Not specifically about cider but there are the occasional references

Twice Daily

Now when Oi were a lad, Oi were so glad
To go out in the hay-time
With me fork an' a bottle an' a cork
In the good old zummer day time
And then one day amongst the hay
I met young Lucy Bailey
I said, "My dear, d'you oft come here?"
And she said, "Yes, sir, twice daily."

We had such fun in the summer sun.
Lucy were so thrillin'.
Sweet and pure, but Oi weren't sure
That young maid were willin'
Till one day among the hay
We was workin' gaily,
She ups an' zlips, an' zummat rips
An' Oi went there twice daily.

She said, "Oh! dear, Oi do feel queer.
Think Oi ought to tell 'ee.
'Taint new bread," she sadly said,
"The swellin' of me belly.
Oughter go To Doctor Joe."
Off she went so gaily.
He gave 'er a dollop of gurt thick jollop.
And said, "Take this twice daily."

Now Lucy's dad were very mad,
Chased Oi round the hay mow,
'E said, "My son, You've 'ad your fun.
The time has come to pay now.
My girl you'll wed," the old man said
As he waved his shotgun gaily.
"If you don't," he said, "Oi'll put some lead
Where you won't go twice daily."

Well, the very next day, in the month of May,
We held the ceremony,
Paid off the vicar with a gallon of liquor,
Rode to church on a pony
And the village folks for miles around
Waved and shouted gaily,
But there's no doubt, you'll get found out
If you go there twice daily.

Now, to Lucy's joy, she had a boy.
What a little darlin',
Round and fat as a Cheshire cat,
Perky as a starlin'.
Skin were smooth as a cider jar
And they called him Buster Bailey,
Fed un on swedes an' charlock weeds
An' a pint of scrump twice daily.

Now we'm old, our story's told,
Been forty years together
An' we often stray where we tossed the hay
In that old-time summer weather.
Kids, we got, full ten or more.
We goes on quite gaily.
Though Oi'm old an' grey,
When Oi gets me way
Oi still goes there twice daily.


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,Bob Coltman
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 06:23 PM

Were these too obvious to include, or were they cited above and I missed them?

Paddy Won't You Drink Some Good Old Cider (recorded in the 1920s by Riley Puckett)
Sweet Cider Time When You Were Mine (a pop song, but recorded by Albert and Johnny Crockett of Dad Crockett's Mountaineers in the 1920s)

and the really obvious one,

Sippin' Cider Through a Straw, that perennial favorite


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: MuddleC
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:25 PM

A dum der-di eider, a dum der-di eider, a dum der di eider eider doh-oh!

>>chorus to 'Twice daily'


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Subject: RE: songs about cider
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 12 Jun 07 - 10:39 PM

most weekends i'm too busily commited to drinkin far too much cider..

so i sure can assure you all of my 'authority' on this subject..

[only need to look at the complete bollocks i often post here
late weekend nights...]



..please consider this little gem..

'JIMMY JOHNSON'S STRING BAND': "Drink More Cider"



http://yazoorecords.com/2200.htm


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