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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,A Scottish Guest Date: 02 Aug 02 - 08:14 AM I'm no fan of the IRA or any of the other factions over there but it has to be remembered that at one time the IRA was actually an honourable group. That was, of course, before they started to take joy in blowing up innocents and having a raqueteering business ruining the lives of the common, working people. Nowadays, they're scum I'm afraid - no friend of the working class. Some of the funny songs were written in the early years. Every war has funny songs written about it - a stress reliever, perhaps? Most of us here don't know what it's like to be in a war or to be a soldier. Especially the Americans don't understand strife and suffering. Anyway, the songs should be taken for the time they were written. Michael Collins would turn in his grave if he could see the state the IRA is in today. Also, please, we don't like to be called 'Brits'. Only Americans say that.
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Nick Date: 02 Aug 02 - 08:18 AM I thought you were a Scottish guest. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: InOBU Date: 02 Aug 02 - 08:54 AM Hi Folks... In the spirt of TRUTH as well as reconcilliation, I think we may list the children murdered point blank by British paras like our brother Bulldog, starting with Carol Ann Kelly, who on a peaceful day, had her brains blown out, in retaliation for the deaths of soldiers. Now, if membership in a "terrorist" organisation rules one out for membership in government, who would run the nations? Certainly no former US, British, Russian, Polish, Indian, Pakistani, Israeli, Palistinian, Turkish, Iranian, Iraqui, Argentinian, Uraguayan, Nicaragain, Yugoslavian, Checkoslovakian,... name all the rest of the armies. Humanity needs a tune up... maybe start with a funny song, lighten up Bulldog, let the pup without sin, cast the first dog biskit... Peace, brother, and the first pint is on me if you find yourself in New York... let peace begin with perspective. Heal (however you want to take that). Larry |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Keith A Date: 02 Aug 02 - 02:27 PM Hi Larry, how are you? I don't think yer man Bulldog is ex Parachute Regt. or he would have said so. Maybe some other airborne unit (medic, engineer, arty ) or just a fantasist. I know that you don't invent facts but to my shame I do not remember the case of Carol. I do know that whatever else the Para Reg are, they are professional soldiers and have a professional soldier's contempt for child killers. If you say she was killed by them I believe you, but how can you be so sure of why it happened. No soldier would kill a child as a reprisal. Sorry to possibly start things up again, but I have known many Paras and counted many as friend, and can not let such a slur go unchallenged. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Winger Date: 02 Aug 02 - 05:30 PM InOBU: Now, if membership in a "terrorist" organisation rules one out for membership in government, who would run the nations? " Al-Qaida? The Taliban? The Nazi Party? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: InOBU Date: 02 Aug 02 - 07:11 PM Hi WInger... there you are, the list can go on all day. HIYA KEITH! Good to see ya: As to young Ms. Kelly, I will check back, I am sure I have a document somewhere on the incident. It may have been other than a para trooper, I will check and get back to you. It definately was a British soldier, on duty, his mate made a formal complaint which was covered up. She was coming home from the market to get some milk. There was no fireing anywhere and the weapon was within inches of her head. The point is wars have more than one side, war is the problem, not the solution to problems. Heal. Cheers Larry |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Susanne (skw) Date: 02 Aug 02 - 08:57 PM From 'Lost Lives' (entry 2326): May 22, 1981 - Carol Ann Kelly (West Belfast, civilian, Catholic, 11, schoolgirl) The schoolgirl was fatally injured by a plastic bullet fired by soldiers in disputed circumstances three days earlier. The round struck her on the head as she walked back to her home at Cherry Park, in Twinbrook, from nearby shops with a pint of milk. [...] The inquest found two plastic bullets had been fired from army Land Rovers. Soldiers said there was rioting in the area, but locals challenged their version of events and said it was quiet at the time. The coroner said the child was an innocent victim [...]. Her family was awarded 25,000 pounds in compensation. In 1993 a former member of the Light Infantry Regiment sent his Northern Ireland campaign medal to the schoolgirl's mother. The former soldier, Bob Harker, wrote a book on plastic bullets called 'A Harmless Way to Kill'. In May 1998, a new memorial stone to the girl was dedicated near her Twinbrook home after an existing memorial was targeted by vandals. No mention of 'reprisals'. Might as well have been the result of a genuine mistake or a dare gone wrong. (Give a boy a weapon and he WILL try it out!) When they found they'd actually hit someone, and a child at that, they weren't mature enough to accept the responsibility. It's too scary to believe someone would take out his anger on an 11-year-old girl in cold blood! |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Big John Date: 03 Aug 02 - 07:46 AM "The Town I Loved So Well." Now theres a song with 89 verses bemoaning the destruction of Derry without a single mention of IRA bombs. Isn't that funny. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,finn mann Date: 03 Aug 02 - 09:24 AM There is group from the north of Ireland call the Men (or is it People?) of No Property. I once had an LP by them which was stolen. I couldn't quite figure them out. Very funny and satirica. Definitely leftist and republican but not conforming to any stereotypes. If anybody can tell me how to get hold of their stuff I'd be grateful. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: InOBU Date: 03 Aug 02 - 11:23 AM Thanks Susanne - Larry |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST Date: 03 Aug 02 - 11:23 AM When I was in Vietnam my outfit would occasionally stand down, which was cause for celebration. We didn't have Guiness or Jameson so we made do with warm Falstaff and rum and Fresca and imagination. We'd sing humerous(sp?) songs about Vietnam, like Country Joe's "Fixin' to Die Rag" and "Blood on the Shrouds" and a little ditty called "We're a Bunch o' Bastards". They were all tension breakers, although out of context they're a bit grim and there's nothing much funny about the Vietnam war. Still, they served an important purpose and I'd hate to see them banished. I expect it's the same for IRA tunes, and I'd bet there are some favored by the Royal Irish Regiment, too. I sure understand where Bulldog is coming from, I don't think I'd care much for pro Viet Cong tunes, although I've never heard one. But let's keep some perspective on it. My favorite funny IRA tune is the one mentioned above called "Fido Hid the Hand Grenade for Me" to the tune of "A Nation Once Again" in which the peelers bust a house occupied by an IRA family who get rid of a grenade by tossing it to Fido who promply swallows it. It goes off and when the smpke clears "There was Fido. And there was Fido and there was Fido over there". The chorus goes "Alsation once again, Alsatian once again, And Fido up in heaven be Alsatian once again." |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE CRUMLIN KANGAROOS From: GUEST,Mike Ruddy Date: 24 Nov 02 - 01:23 PM A plaintiff call went out twice for the words to the "Crumlin Kangaroos." I too was searching for them and ran into this thread. Since the I didn't see the answer any where and I have this song on a CD by Wolfhound, I transcribed it and bracketed the parts I was unsure of. Seeing things a bit raw here and there in this thread, I would submit that, for those who are focused solely on the horrors committed on both sides in the past decades in Northern Ireland, neither The Crumlin Kangaroos, The Fenian Record Player, The Ould Orange Flute, William Bloat, nor The Orange And The Green are "funny" but the foregoing songs I listed also indicate the Irish both the Orange Loyalist and the Green Nationalist have used the black humor in this genre of folk song to break the pall that hangs over the uncovered wounds..... Let's hope we see a real end to it in our lifetimes. Mike THE CRUMLIN KANGAROOS CHORUS So it's here and up your arsenal And a Georgie best to you There's not a team in the whole wide world Like the Crumlin Kangaroos Now from the rebel jail the prisoners one day A game of football they did have but the rules did not obey And while all the wardens watched there the passing of the ball One of the bloody football teams went up and over the wall CHORUS So it's here and up your arsenal And a Georgie best to you There's not a team in the whole wide world Like the Crumlin Kangaroos The wardens all looked up then in the wildest eyed surprise And the sight they saw before them brought tears to all those eyes For one of teams had disappeared [for all that] they did call But one side had a free transfer to a team just over the wall CHORUS The gaoler he came down then with his face all in a twist Sayin' up against the wall now while I get out me list Now two teams started playing of that we all agreed But now we're short 8 players and a bloody referee CHORUS Well the milit'ry were shocked now, they said we'll lose no more And they barred up every window and bolted every door But we'd left behind our half-back line and that would never do So Martin [took three more] up and joined the Kangaroos CHORUS |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha Date: 24 Nov 02 - 02:50 PM Thanks Mike, Are you out there Den?, Mike to the rescue here and proof indeed that despite all we can still laugh at our troubles. Ard Mhacha. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE RECRUITING SERGEANT From: Big Tim Date: 24 Nov 02 - 04:53 PM Here's the words of the song mentoned by Ewan MacVicar on 01 Aug 02, from the Pogues 3rd album: titled only part of a "Medley" and "trad". As I was walking down the road, a feeling fine and larky-O, A recruiting sergeant came up to me, Says you'd look fine in khaki-O, For the King he is in need of men, Come read this proclamation-O, A life in Flanders for you then, Would be a fine vacation-O, That may be so says I to him, But tell me sergeant dearie-O, If I had a pack stuck up on my back, Would I look fine and cheerie-O? For they'd have you train and drill until, They had you one of Frenchies-O, It may be warm in Flanders, it's draughty in the trenches-O, The sergeant smiled and winked his eye, His smile was most provoking-O, He twiddled and twirled his wee moustache, Says he you're only joking-O, For the sandbags are so warm and high, The wind you won't feel blowing-O, I winked at a colleen passing by, Says I, what if it's snowing-O? Come rain or hail or wind or snow, I'm not going out to Flanders-O, There's fighting in Dublin to be done, Let your sergeants and your commanders go, Let Englishmen fight English wars, It's nearly time they started-O, I saluted the sergeant a very good night, And there and then we parted-O. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST Date: 25 Nov 02 - 06:24 AM The Spinners used to sing 'orange and green' until they heard that another bomb had went off or some innocent got killed, so they didn't sing it any more because it didn't seem funny, when some child or man or woman was killed because of their name or relgion. I'm the same I never sing these songs either about the Prods or Catholics. Because I just don't to hear them. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST Date: 25 Nov 02 - 07:03 AM What I meant was that I just don't want hear them, however if people want to listen to that sort thing then fine, it's just not my cup of tea. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,barrygeo Date: 25 Nov 02 - 07:47 AM To those critising this thread - you do not understand the Irish Tradition. For centuries songs have been used in Ireland for Social and Political commentary. The use of wit and satire are particularly prized. The real answer to a song you dislike is to write a rebuttal. The political songs are used for internal propaganda to rally supporters rather than directed at the enemy. It is unfortunate but not unsuprising that IRA fund raisers should have hijacked this tradition post 1969. Many fine songs have also been written condemning the violence of this period. I trust that history will judge what songs are remembered and those to be forgotten just as it always has. Remember the songs are a reflection of the times rather than a causative factor. Look at Hollywood's portrayal of history and you will see that most of the hero's are home grown. This is Irish traditional music so if your into it your going to have to accept the warts as well and trust the censorship of time. Any other form of censorship doesn't work. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Irish Brigade Date: 25 Nov 02 - 08:13 AM How about The Bogside Doodlebug, The Great Helicopter Escape (the British roadblocks didn't work so well, The Peeler and the Goat? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,barrygeo Date: 25 Nov 02 - 08:39 AM I am open to correction (memory not as sharp as it might be) but wasn't the helicopter song about an escape from Mountjoy prison in Dublin and therefor a slag at Irish authorities rather than British. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Den Date: 25 Nov 02 - 01:07 PM By Jingo Ard I very nearly didn't check back into this thread. Well Done Mike. I too had this song on Vinyl, a single if I recall correctly. I lost it somewhere along the line. Thanks again Mike. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Big Tim Date: 26 Nov 02 - 07:48 AM Don't know the Helicopter Song but it must be about the escape of Seamus Twomey, Kevin Mallon and Joe B. O'Hagan ,all senior IRA members, allegedly, from Mountjoy Jail Dublin, in August 1973. (See Brendan Anderson's new book "Joe Cahill: a life in the IRA"). |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Wolfgang Date: 26 Nov 02 - 08:46 AM Helicopter song (link to the DT entry). Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Jimmie Tee Date: 04 May 07 - 06:22 PM I have recorded Over the Wall (Crumlin Kangaroos) but have come up with a zero in finding copyright info. I need it to obtain a mechanical license. Danny Burns wrote the lyrics. It is my guess that the melody is traditional. Can someone out there help me? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Ruth Archer Date: 04 May 07 - 08:03 PM umm, this one's not pro-IRA, but was nevertheless taught to me by a Catholic/Republican friend of mine who thought it was one of the funniest things he'd ever heard. In terms of black humour it takes some beating. Apparently it used to be sung at football matches in the 80s: Did you eat your chicken supper, Bobby Sands? Did you eat your chicken supper, Bobby Sands? Did you eat your chicken supper You skinny Fenian fucker Did you eat your chicken supper, Bobby Sands? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Big Al Whittle Date: 04 May 07 - 08:15 PM Kinky Boots I drove my saracen through your garden last night Sing up the RA I kicked your front door down around at midnight Sing up the RA Oh somthing's telling me boy you're avoiding me And when I find you, you will go for your tea Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots I've got a lovely new flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit And when we go on night patrol we hold each others hands We are the British army and we're here to take your land My good friend Bertie he's in the UDR Who-ar, Who-ar Searching for weapons he will go near and far Who-ar, Who-ar Up around by Cappagh you'd never find him there Oh the only gun he'd get there is an armalite in his ear Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots I've got a lovely new flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit And when we go on night patrol we hold each others hands We are the British army and we're here to take your land My good friend Trevor he's in the RUC I see, I see but now they've handed him his redundancy I see, I see The folks along the border won't be seeing him any more That Provo sniper will be missing him for sure Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots I've got a lovely new flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit And when we go on night patrol we hold each others hands We are the British army and we're here to take your land My good friend Nigel he's in the SAS Oh yes, Oh yes He said a change is just as good as arrest Oh yes, Oh yes But now they've gone and posted him way down to Crossmaglen He wishes to blazes he was back in jail again Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots I've got a lovely new flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit And when we go on night patrol we hold each others hands We are the British army and we're here to take your land My good friend Sammy he's in the DUP I see, I see An outstanding member as all the world can see I see, I see I can go up to to Donegal if you want to have some fun He said I'll take a run there if I have nothing on Oh I've got a brand new shiny helmet and a pair of kinky boots I've got a lovely new flak jacket and a lovely khaki suit And when we go on night patrol we hold each others hands We are the British army and we're here to take your land |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Little Mick Date: 05 May 07 - 05:18 AM We shot one, We shot two, we shot thirteen more than you, With a nick nack paddywack, Give a mick a gun, Paras thirteen Bogside none. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: concertina ceol Date: 05 May 07 - 06:08 AM this is disgusting. can't this thread be removed? Or perhaps we should start another one - anyone know any funny songs about the oppression of the irish by the british? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Big Al Whittle Date: 05 May 07 - 06:20 AM what is this for - may we ask? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: MartinRyan Date: 05 May 07 - 06:26 AM "anyone know any funny songs about the oppression of the irish by the british? " Isn't that where the thread started from? Let's just call it quits... given the week that's (nearly) in it. Regards |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: guitar Date: 06 May 07 - 05:31 AM The spiners from Liverpool used to sing the orange and the green, however they when they were still together, stopped singing it because another innocent man/women/child had been killed and they didn't find it funny anymore. I sing some Irish republican stuff as well, and also protestant songs, I'm a protestant and yet I find some of the Irish republican stuff well not funny but as a part of our history the same goes for the orange songs as well. Tom |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Georgie Date: 07 May 07 - 07:36 PM Try Fenian Record Player, Hilarious |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,:::: Date: 07 May 07 - 11:01 PM GOOD STUFF - worthy of archiving
I entered with an angry tilt - but quickly discovered the true thread.
Carry On!!! I am off tomorrow and will check my notes....I must have a couple in there to post here. |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST,Davy the weird loyalist Date: 13 May 07 - 04:00 AM When I was young, I had no sense, I bought a flute for fifty pence, The only tune that I could play, was "Fuck the Pope and the IRA". |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Big Al Whittle Date: 13 May 07 - 04:34 AM an angry tilt? |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: Wolfgang Date: 05 Jun 07 - 06:57 AM Jimmie Tee, the version I know of Over the wall is sung to a tune very close to the German clockwinder. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs From: GUEST Date: 05 Jun 07 - 07:19 AM Dubliners "The old alarm clock"
Thanks. -Joe Offer-
-Joe Offer-
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