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Lyr Req/Add: Ale Is Physic for Me

GUEST,Roberto Campo 15 May 01 - 01:42 PM
MMario 15 May 01 - 02:01 PM
wysiwyg 16 May 01 - 12:17 PM
Sooz 16 May 01 - 01:27 PM
GUEST,Chris Nixon 16 May 01 - 03:31 PM
MMario 16 May 01 - 03:36 PM
Dave the Gnome 16 May 01 - 03:44 PM
GUEST,Chris Nixon 16 May 01 - 03:53 PM
MMario 16 May 01 - 05:17 PM
GUEST,Sooz (at work) 17 May 01 - 03:33 AM
GUEST,Robert Campo 17 May 01 - 04:29 AM
Dave the Gnome 17 May 01 - 05:44 AM
GUEST,JohnB 17 May 01 - 12:48 PM
John J 17 May 01 - 01:03 PM
JohnB 17 May 01 - 07:03 PM
Weasel 15 Dec 04 - 04:16 PM
Weasel 15 Dec 04 - 04:21 PM
MMario 15 Dec 04 - 04:30 PM
GUEST,Paul Burke 16 Dec 04 - 10:40 AM
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Subject: ale is physic for me
From: GUEST,Roberto Campo
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:42 PM

I'd like to have the lyrics of the song Ale is physic for me. A version of it is in Deep Lancashire. It isn't in the DT. Strange that such a fascinating and true title has been ignored. Please, help me with the lyrics of the song. Thank you. Roberto Campo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: MMario
Date: 15 May 01 - 02:01 PM

no luck on google or a couple other searchers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 May 01 - 12:17 PM

Well-spoken, Roberto. Hope you will join Mudcat. If you will keep refreshing this thread by posting in it every 24 hours, or bookmark it and post it back "up" onto the day's list when you can, you will get an answer eventually. There have been songs found after years of waiting... so do not hold your breath, but don't give up, either!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: Sooz
Date: 16 May 01 - 01:27 PM

I've just listened to it by Mike Harding thinking I might jot down the words. However they in in undecypherable dialect and I can only makeout about one word in three. Sorry! Its on a compilation CD "English Folk Anthology" R2CD 40-106 if that helps.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALE IS PHYSIC
From: GUEST,Chris Nixon
Date: 16 May 01 - 03:31 PM

Ale is Physic

In walking past a doctor's house at the top of Newton Ee,
Twas there I got a sudden stop and gan be feared to dee,
Me hand shook like an aspen leaf, I shivered [dithered ?]/ in me shoon,
It seemed as dark as twelve at neet tho' twere but twelve at noon,

I thowt I saw the gallows tree where yon cock thief were hung
And that Owd Nick were chasin me and there he'd have me hung,
I groped me way to t'doctor's door and there I tumbled down,
The flewer it gave me such a stroke it welly broke me crown.

Now what were doctor thinking of to bring to mesel',
To save a sick and dying man so feared of death and knell [death an' 'ell],
He brought no lance, he brought no draught that quickens or that soothes,
But brought a glass of home brewed ale as had come from Willy Booth's.

He placed it in me wackerin' hand that were so pale and thin,
I swiped it down all in one draught and I've never ailed nowt since.


Ale is physic, ale is physic, ale is physic for me….

This is all I can remember off the top of me head, so if you can get hold of Deep Lancashire, it might help you translate the very rich dialect.

Newton Ee is presumably Newton Heath Welly = verily Wackerin = shaking ??? = some part of door or doorstep which escapes an ailing memory

Hope all this helps.

Chris Nixon

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: MMario
Date: 16 May 01 - 03:36 PM

Chris - you have a tune? if so, any way to transmit it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 May 01 - 03:44 PM

Udecypherable dialect!!! How could you Sooz? This is my mother tongue we are talking about.

Dave the Lancy Gnome


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: GUEST,Chris Nixon
Date: 16 May 01 - 03:53 PM

MMario

Contact me at CHRISNIXON@nixonc.freeserve.co.uk and I can send you the tadpoles as a pcx file. Peace, Dave the Gnome, we inhabit the northern regions by the grace of the almighty - is it not written "Yea, and the backsides of the unrighteous shall be used as banjo skins...?" All the best Chris


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Subject: Tune Add: ALE IS PHYSIC
From: MMario
Date: 16 May 01 - 05:17 PM

Thanks to Chris:

MIDI file: notind_physic.mid

Timebase: 192

Name: Ale is Physic for Me
Text: Generated by NoteWorthy Composer
Key: D
TimeSig: 2/2 24 8
Start
0576 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0528 0 62 000 0048 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0528 0 62 000 0048 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 69 110 0256 0 69 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 64 110 0528 0 64 000 0048 1 57 110 0160 0 57 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0160 0 60 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0256 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0256 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0094 0 60 000 0002 1 60 110 0094 0 60 000 0002 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0720 0 62 000 0048 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0256 0 66 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0256 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 60 110 0094 0 60 000 0002 1 60 110 0094 0 60 000 0002 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0720 0 62 000
End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Ale is Physic for Me
M:2/2
Q:1/4=120
K:D
A8|F2F2F2F2|G2G2G2GG|F2D2=C2E2|D6A2|F2F2F2F2|
G2G2G2GG|F2D2=C2E2|D6A2|F2A2A2A2|F2A2A2A2|
FA3G2F2|E6A,2|D2D2E2E2|F2F2G2GG|F2D2=C2E2|
E4E4|F2F2FF3|G2G2GG3|F2D2=C=CE2|D8|F2F2FF3|
G2G2GG3|F2D2=C=CE2|D15/2||

NWC file sent to Joe


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: GUEST,Sooz (at work)
Date: 17 May 01 - 03:33 AM

Dave, if you are at the Jug on Saturday you can give me a lesson in Lancs and I'll reciprocate with Lincs!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: GUEST,Robert Campo
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:29 AM

Many thanks to Chris. Roberto Campo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 May 01 - 05:44 AM

I'll do better than that - I have the difinitive work on the subject 'Lancy spoken here' - I'll bring it along.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 17 May 01 - 12:48 PM

My lugoles ave nah problem listenin tuh proper talk. I was goin t check in my copy of Mike's boook but it's at yam. JohnB


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: John J
Date: 17 May 01 - 01:03 PM

Bernard is worth a pm for this. He's a knowledgeable Lancashire Lad! John


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: JohnB
Date: 17 May 01 - 07:03 PM

It's not in "The Mike Harding Collection Folk SOngs of Lancashire". I know it is on "Deep Lancashire", but that is downstairs somewhere, in viynl. Need more time, LOTS more. JohnB


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: Weasel
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 04:16 PM

The "floor" it gin me such a.........

correction made - Thank YOu! - joeclone


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: Weasel
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 04:21 PM

I dithered in my shoon

Newton Heath is between Oldham and Manchester

So feared o' death an' 'ell?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: ale is physic for me
From: MMario
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 04:30 PM

Weasel - Welcome to the Mudcat! Thanks for the corrections - if you have any more please feel free to post them - ESPECIALLY if you can fill in the fourth verse!


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Subject: RE: Req/Add: Ale is Physic for me
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 10:40 AM

Round Newton Heath way, 'floor' would be pronounced more like 'flewer'. Bit like Bringle Eaf where they ad canguls in bockuls on t' mankulpiece.

A cautionary case of alcoholic DTs being calmed by the very poison itself :)


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Subject: RE: Req/Add: Ale is Physic for me
From: JohnB
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 10:05 AM

I told you I neede LOTS more time, still haven't gotten around to it.
I guess I had forgotten all about this thread. Really will have to dig that albumn out soon now. BTW I was born and spent the first twenty one years of my life in Newton Heath. Really glad I live in Canada now though! I of course never talked like that though. Weel I'l gow t'futt o' are sturs.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Req/Add: Ale is Physic for me
From: Weasel
Date: 31 Dec 08 - 02:46 PM

4th verse

He put it in my wackerin' hond as were so pale and thin
Aw swoiped it aw off at a want (woint) an au've never ailt nowt sin.

I'd forgotten all about this and only wandered in the mudcat again a couple of weeks ago.

The original poem byElijah Ridings(which is slightly different from the version here) can be found in"Lancashire Miscellany" edited by James Bennet and published by Hirst, Kidd Nd Rennie Ltd of Oldham.

Cheers.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Ale Is Physic for Me
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Mar 14 - 10:39 AM

Ale is physic


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