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chip a 22 May 01 - 10:57 AM
GUEST,Louisa 22 May 01 - 11:00 AM
Patrish(inactive) 22 May 01 - 11:15 AM
Patrish(inactive) 22 May 01 - 11:17 AM
chip a 22 May 01 - 11:36 AM
Louisa 22 May 01 - 11:44 AM
Bert 22 May 01 - 12:35 PM
chip a 22 May 01 - 01:19 PM
Trapper 22 May 01 - 01:20 PM
chip a 22 May 01 - 02:29 PM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 23 May 01 - 05:40 AM
Fortunato 23 May 01 - 09:33 AM
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GutBucketeer 23 May 01 - 10:39 AM
RichM 23 May 01 - 10:45 AM
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Subject: wash tub bass
From: chip a
Date: 22 May 01 - 10:57 AM

I want to make a wash tub bass. Any ideas on the type and thickness of string, area of the tub bottom to place the string and length of the neck? Thanks for any input.

Chip


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GUEST,Louisa
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:00 AM

A friend of mine used to play one of these but as he couldn't take it on the plane when he had gigs in the UK he would have to make one when he arrived.

I'm not sure about the string but the neck was made from a standard length wooden broom handle that he would buy from a hardware shop.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:15 AM

click here
Did a quick search and came up with this, I will have another look and post a link
Patrish


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:17 AM

Heres another clicky
Patrish


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: chip a
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:36 AM

Keep it coming, this is great! I'll go to the hardware later today for material.

We were given a "pounding" when we got married and the tub came to us then. Seems like making music with it is fitting, huh?

Thanks,

Chip & Tish


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Louisa
Date: 22 May 01 - 11:44 AM

i think the string needs to go on the other side of the tub form the where the broom handle goes in.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Bert
Date: 22 May 01 - 12:35 PM

You need to talk with our master Gutbucketeer JAB.

He uses a unique design which has a crossbar on the bottom of the handle. This crossbar bridges the washtub and allows the handle to be brought forward to a more convenient playing position. Allowing the handle to be used as a fingerboard.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: chip a
Date: 22 May 01 - 01:19 PM

Thanks, Bert. How do I get in touch with him? Are you there, master gutbucketeer JAB?

Not sure I understand what you're describing as to design.

Chip


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Trapper
Date: 22 May 01 - 01:20 PM

Here are three threads that have previously run in Mudcat concerning Washtub Basses and the construction thereof...

Clicky #1

Clicky #2

Clicky #3

- Al


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: chip a
Date: 22 May 01 - 02:29 PM

Thanks again to all! Very helpful. I'll get to work tonight if I can round up the needed stuff. Found the plan for JAB's tub on one of the above old threads. I'm gonna try that first.

Chip


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 23 May 01 - 05:40 AM

Some more information and photo HERE
But as this page also refers to the kazzo as a Eunuch Flute I don't know whether I ought to recommend it!
RtS (Eunuch flautist)


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Fortunato
Date: 23 May 01 - 09:33 AM

Eunuch Flatulist? Sounds like a lonely job.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 23 May 01 - 09:44 AM

So, Fortunato, you've heard me as well....
RtS ( a man gotta kazoo what he gotta kazoo)


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Fortunato
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:24 AM

I just hope 'spaw doesn't see this thread, the Deity knows what HE'D do with a kazoo.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:39 AM

Everyone seems to have covered all the bases in their responses above. I've been playing a washtubon and off since college. I described how (and why) I make my "gutbuckets" in one of the threads shown above. If you need any further information just PM me, or post below.

Gutbucketeer i.e. JAB


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: RichM
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:45 AM

Did I see this wonderfully strange bass contraption in a Mudcat thread?? Anyway, have a look at this:

Bassbox


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:51 AM

Speaking of Flatualists. The most renowned in history was Joseph Pujol, or "Le Pétomane" who at one time was the highest paid performer in France, and the main attraction at the Moulin Rouge. This inspirational "Fartiste" natural wind musician took his art to heights never reached again.

His full story can be found here:

http://www.retroactive.com/jan98/petomane.html

:-)


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 23 May 01 - 10:53 AM

Oops....

So Sorry I misread Flautist.

JAB


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:31 AM

The hell with the washtub bass. It's a toy, not a musical instrument.

The "Bass Foodle" is not a toy , it has the same capabilities as a Bass Fiddle or electric bass. It's made from an inverted Metal Garbage can, an old Guitar neck (or you can whittle one out. has four strings, a sound board inside that the strings are anchored to. Four tuning keys and either with or without a bridge it has some real tone. The Bridge makes it easier to bow. My invention. Send your adress in a P.M and I'll send you detailed instructions on how to make one. The instructions are free. It's my invention and was originally a sculpture entitled, "Modern Jazz But I started playing it as a bass and I take it to Gigs with me. All you need is a drill for tools

. I hereby give my permission to anyone who wants to make one. If any money changes hands give ten percent to the Salvation Army.

Jody Gibson
36 Charles St.
Newport, RI o2840.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: dr soul
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:00 PM

I understand tea chest basses were quite popular with Liverpool skifflers - such as John Lennon's Silver Beatles - because the city was awash (figuratively speaking) in cheap throw-away boxes in which they shipped the tea. Thus I deduce that a determined bass player can use pretty much anything for a sound box.

I like the pictures on the link above, but a wash tub with a neck permanently afixed to it is going to be awkward to transport to gigs. I recently saw a portable wash tub bass used by a band here in Olympia, WA, USA (the Mud Bay jug band, to be precise.)

The neck (a broom handle) has a medium sized coat hook bolted into it. The tub has a hole in the middle of the bottom. The string has a washer tied on one end and a loop on the other. To assemble, the looped end of the string goes through the hole in the bottom of the washtub (Did I mention that the washer has to be larger than the hole in the bottom!?) The loop in the string hooks over the coat hook on the neck. Put the tub on the floor, stand the neck up, and pull back until the string is tight - ready to plunk!


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: Sorcha
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:06 PM

I beg to differ, Jody. My wash tub player, Herb, is 88 (he in is a Nursing Home and can no longer play with us) can actually play melodies on a washtub bass. He can also take in laundry when times are hard, but he won't do diapers! BTW, he uses a length of 1/4" whang/boot lacing for a string. It stretches for a couple weeks, then is fine for several months. He also wears a heavy leather glove on his plucking hand.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: MarkS
Date: 23 May 01 - 11:55 PM

Last time I saw Fritz Richmond play his, I took a close look. The string looked more like a small guage wire cable, and he played it using a glove on his left hand. The glove was reenforced with what looked like steel bands on the fingers. It would be tough to play otherwise!
Mark


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 24 May 01 - 12:26 AM

The "Bass Foodle" 's neck can be detachable. It uses 4 electric Bass strings, but is played like a stand up bass. It can be bowed or plucked, with the sound board anchor and the full length trash can (as opposed to a washtub.) it has real tone, Oh yes, there are two "F holes" cut into the sides of the inverted trash can. Furthermore, it doesn't take a superhuman ability to judge "string tension" to get a chromatic response , it only takes the same sort of training that one would need to play a bass fiddle. The Bass Foodle . Oh Hell, I'll figure out how to send scanned images in E-Mail and send a drawing or photograph to Dick greenhaus. Rick Fielding and "Anglo" Have my CD "Spanning the Decades" and Sunsul and Kat/Katlaughing will soon have the "New improved version. Several of the tracks were recorded with my recording equipment with which I did all the instruments and all the voices. I used the Bass Foodle on all of these, Maybe Rick will play one of them on his radio show.

Let's see if I can learn how to do this bit of electronic legerdeemain and I'll get back to you.
Later, Jody Gibson.


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: DaveJ
Date: 24 May 01 - 05:46 AM

It is well worth paying attention to Reggie Miles' previous posts about Dr James Rhythm's bass. It is important to note that this is a very inexpensive solution. The kick bass drum that Dr. James uses was new once, but I'm pretty sure he got it used at a yard sale or Sally's (Salvation Army). I've seen him play many times and he is definitely one of the best. He now lives and plays around Ithaca, NY. Oh, incidentally, he calls his bass a "Low Dow Bass" not a gut-bucket bass or a wash tub bass. (And its not a toy---er maybe it is-but then all instruments are really toys. That's why people play with them!)

Dave


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 May 01 - 07:18 AM

I don't think it's too sporting to fish for bass in a washtub, I mean, talk about shooting fish in a barrel..........What could be easier? Then again, maybe it would present a challenge or two.....Like how do you get that big metalflake bass boat with the 250 horsepower Merc into a washtub?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: wash tub bass
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 24 May 01 - 02:22 PM

Well, I don't know here is definitely a difference in capability between a guitar, for instance and a Dulcimer, or even a steel guitar. I'd hate to try to ply Mozart on a steel guitar. It isn't, however, hard to do on a guitar.

As for which one to construct. I guess you have to ask yourself if you're going to make real music or just fool around.

The above, of course, is not carved in stone (although I am a stonecutter) don't change your mind on just one persons "say so".


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Subject: RE: What is a Bass Box
From: NervousPaulvis
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 12:29 AM

Hi folks, I've made and play the Strad!! tub

And my cross-string method is the best way to get a better sound out of a traditional tea chest /wash tub.

Go see www.youtube/nervouspaulvis

That includes you too reggie

Yee-Haw!!


Paulvis
PS; I've just made a brand new one using thick rubber bands instead of a box and you know something - it darn well works - almost too goood


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Subject: RE: wash tub bass
From: GUEST,999
Date: 06 Apr 11 - 03:15 AM

Be still my beating heart!


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