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Subject: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 10:12 AM

Looking for advice here from the seasoned pros or skilled starters. Although not ordinarily subject to stage fright, I'm facing the challenge of competing in a state championship "Old Time Vocal" competition. Choosing to go a capella, I notice my lack of breath control is pretty obvious. Nervousness will probably make it worse when I compete, particularly on the lower notes I don't project well. What to do? Singing has always come pretty easily for me, so I've never been meticulous about diaphagmatic breathing (WARNING: this led to nodes on my vocal chords, which required tedious treatment and robbed me of some smoothness and range. Don't let this happen to you. Learn to sing properly!)Any warm-ups, exercises or diversionary tactics you can recommend?


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: RichM
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 10:17 AM

Could you do a couple of sessions with a voice teacher, who could lead you through some effective pre-performance exercises?


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Peg
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 10:32 AM

Basically any exerciss wherein you really get yourself USED TO breathing through your diaphragm will help.

I offer a few that I hope will help:

Lie on the floor. Bend your knees and keep your feet planted firmly, spreading your legs slightly. Press your lower back into the floor; as you do so you find you have to contract your abdominal muscles. Do this repeatedly, contracting the abs muscles and holding your lower back muscles against the floor for five second; then release for five seconds.

Once you get THAT down, practice breathing in and out with your mouth open (form some sort of vowel sound with your lips, like "ooh") and using your diaphragm as you do so. Start with five seconds breathing in, hold for five, exhale for five, then gradualy extend the count to ten seconds.

Next step: add vocalization. Breathe in on a count of five, then sing the "ooh" sound for as long as you can, (feel your diaphragm muscles working), but instead of gulping in air as soon as you run out of breath, see if you can pause and hold slightly before slowly breathing in again; this will help you develop better breath control, which is not just about singing/exhaling, but taking IN breath effectively as well.

Lying on the floor allows you to feel the diaphragm muscles work naturally. You can practice this breathing exercise standing up, too, but place your hands on your abdominal area and lower back to feel what those muscles are doing when it seems to be "working." Continue to check this; you want to train your body to be able to repeat this technique without having to think too consciously about it.

Also, a few minutes of slow breathing (inhale for ten seconds, hold for ten, exhale for ten) as part of your usual pre-performance warm-ups should help immensely.

I hope this was helpful.

Peg

who learned how to breathe, more or less, in voice class in high school but had to relearn it all when she started singing traditional music...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Bagpuss
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 11:41 AM

A tip I was given a while ago that I find helpful in projecting your voice without expelling all your breath: Instead of trying to sing out to the farthest point in the room, imagine the sound of your voice is at that farthest point and that when you sing you are drawing the sound towards you. It sounds strange, but give it a go.

Another tip is to choose a short ditty and try to sing it as many times through as you can in one breath. After a few gos you naturally start to learn how to sing without blasting all the air out in one go.

Good luck

Bagpuss


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: paddymac
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 12:02 PM

Good advice from Peg. Generally, if you try to just be aware of your belly, you'll be helping the diaphragm do its job as well. You might add to the exercises Peg recommended by placing a heavy book on your belly. This simply makes you aware of the need to consciously push out the belly to help draw down the diaphragm, which together increase the volume of air you can inhale.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: lady penelope
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 01:40 PM

The way you stand makes a BIG difference, if your posture isn't good, you'll feel uncomfortable when you try to sing properly. Your lower back and all your abdominal muscles affect the way you stand or 'pelvic tilt'. the above exercises will make you aware of those muscles. I always find standing with my feet hip with apart and then raising slowly onto the balls of my feet will help settle your body into a good stance. If your body is in the wrong position you won't be able to keep your balance! Your knees should be slightly bent ( well, more 'not straight' than bent ) yours shoulders should be 'down', your head should almost feel like it's floating ( this will make your chest automatically expand ) or as my yoga teacher used to say " like it's being held up on a peice of string". And your bum should feel like it's slightly tucked foward ( that sounds daft but when you do the balls of your feet thing you'll know what I mean )

Now, after all that, SING!

If nothing else a good stance should help with the confidence. Good Luck.

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Alice
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 03:16 PM

Gern, how soon is this performance? I hope I can help with some advice and description of exercises.

Your daily voice exercise and singing will be important to do on a consistent basis, because it is a physical accomplishment, just like training to run a race. You have to realize you are building up the muscles and gradually getting them stronger and more under control. You wouldn't go out and run a marathon and expect to do well if you have not spent the time leading up to it in training your muscles and endurance. Nothing can substitute for a good teacher who can hear what you are doing and give you the instruction on technique to improve and change. Then, it takes daily exercising of those muscles and techniques to build them up to what you are potentially capable of doing. In the mean time, think of the muscles on the floor of your abdomen. What you need to realize is that the diaphragm is not what is breathing - your lungs are what breathes, and you just need to pull your guts down and out of the way (so the diaphragm is pulled down to give the lungs more room) and hold them down as long as possible while you control the flow of the air out of your lungs and through the vocal folds. Learning to keep your toungue out of the way, lift the soft palate at the roof of your mouth, to use the resonance chambers in your skull, etc., and RELAX while doing this, are all a part of using the breath support to project a good sound when singing. I describe the messa di voce exercise in one of the other threads, but in case it is buried and hard to find, here it is again. Choose one note to sing "ooooh", pull the muscles down in your abdomen, let your belly and sides and ribs expand as you breathe in a full breath to fill your lungs. Begin singing the note as softly as possible, then as you count to eight in your mind, gradually increase the volume, loudest sound as you reach 8, and then gradually decrease the volume back to your beginning soft volume, counting backwards from 8 to 1. This is all on ONE breath. When you begin to feel you have no more air to sing and you have not counted back down to one, hold those muscles down in the floor of your abdomen, keep them pulling down toward your pelvis, and you will see that you have some more air that is still able to flow from your lungs. Holding those muscles down is the key, and like doing any kind of ab exercises, like the ones to make your tummy flat, it takes TIME and daily exercise to strengthen them.

Learning to spin a tone out on a stream of air can be important in singing when you perform without a microphone. Remember, opera singers learn these old bel canto techniques, tried and true, and they project their voices over an entire orchestra. Good luck

There is a thread I started back in '99 that collects many discussions on singing and voice technique. It is long, but you may be able to find some help there. I included links to non-Mudcat sites about vocal health and physiology for singing. Check out those sites for specifics on the larynx and vocal folds, warm up, etc.

Threads on the Singing Voice - click here

Alice


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 04:14 PM

I see many of who have given these matters a lot of thought. It all sounds like a golf swing, where the hacker must be consumed in so many details of posture and such that he swings at the ball and misses. Thanks to Peg, Alice and others for very generous sharing of knowledge. Alice, I'm ashamed to say this competition is 3 weeks away! Didn't realize I had so much to do. It must be hard to take command of the mechanics of breathing, after a steady 47 years of doing it by instinct. But I'll give these exercises a shot.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Margo
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 05:16 PM

Part of not straining your voice is understanding where it is resonating. The lowest part of your range resonates in your chest. I don't know about men, (are you a guy or girl?) but for women the midrange resonates in your face and the high range resonates in your head. If you find the right resonating spots, you will automatically project better without effort.

I too will be singing A'cappella for a competition! I'm singing "bright morning stars". What are you doing?

Margo


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Jenny S
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 04:58 AM

I know it sounds obvious, but I always find that two or three very deep but relaxed breaths immediately beforehand help enormously, both to ensure that you start with plenty of breath in hand, and also are sufficiently relaxed to make the most of it!

J


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 06:53 AM

When I first glanced at this thread I thought it said "Birth Control while singing!"
All of the advice given is good. Thanks, Alice, for posting the links to those threads. Germ, I tell my choruses to "breathe from your belly button and sing from the top of your head"- which only works if you do all the other things.
Most of all, relax, have fun, and somehow communicate your joy of singing to the audience. That way, you'll have a great time and the competition part won't be as important as the pleasure you give (and take!).


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Gern
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 09:51 AM

'Birth control' might apply here, if I were asking questions about rhythm. That would also explain the discussion involving the diaphragm. By the way, make that 'Gern,' not 'Germ.' Although I'm male, I imagine the 'resonating points' fall at about the same places. Margo, I plan to sing 'The Waltz of the Angels' and 'Darling Nellie Gray' in this competition.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Pixie
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 11:30 AM

When I took some basic voice lessons (and I should have continued them!) the instructor had me do the following every day: -while standing, slowly breathe in through your


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Pixie
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 11:36 AM

When I took some basic voice lessons (and I should have continued them!) the instructor had me do the following every day:

1. While standing, slowly inhale through your nose; you should feel your stomach distending; 2. When you feel you cannot take in another molecule of air, SLOWLY EXHALE through your teeth, making a "ssss" sound until you have exhaled as much as you can; 3. Repeat several times, trying to maintain a constant and steady stream of air (no big rushes of air out, or wavering/quavering)and draw it out as long as you can. Gradually, you will be able to exhale with much more control, and be able to carry a phrase to the end or hold a note consistently...... which reminds me I should practice this!

Its a quick and easy way to warm up the voice too, without doing any damage - also relaxes you (like breathing through a panic attack!)

Pixie


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: WyoWoman
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 12:27 PM

Yes to all the good advice up there. It IS a bit like golf, and one of the reasons I don't golf is because there are just too damned many things to remember. I've been assured that at some point, it all becomes automatic, but Ijust haven't been able to push through all the minutiae to get to the automaticity.

However, I've been singing so long and have been trained so much that all this advice on vocal production mostly seems automatic to me now. So ... keep going. And I'd also add a couple of things:

* If you're someone (like me) to whom the advice to practice sounds the death-knell for any activity, don't practice. Just sing, sing, sing every day in a conscious way for pleasure. Sing for joy and for creation.

* Think about being a bird lighting on your tone rather than being a desperate YOU trying to reach UP to it. Imagine that your song is a silver thread being spun out of you and out into the audience.

* Sing from kindness rather than fear.

* Before I perform, I ask the Creator/Muse/Spirit to help me get my ego out of the way so I can be in service to the song, to the music. It isn't about us, the singers, although it's hard to remember that sometimes when we're so afraid we'll screw up these songs we love so much. It's actually about communicating these songs we love so much to others so they can love them, too. Think of yourself as a big piece of concrete conduit through which the universe is sending these songs to your "audience."

And be sure and come back and let us know how it's going/has gone!

Buena suerte, WyoWoman


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Alice
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 02:20 PM

Gern, I will second what WyoWoman and the others have said.... RELAX! Let the joy of singing be the experience for you. No matter that you haven't had technical training, do what you do for the love of it, and if you want to develop the other capacities until they become automatic (yes, after time you do it without thinking), then that can be done in the future. The main thing your audience will know is how heartfelt your singing is, and that will come across whether you have total breath support or not. Look at the phrasing of the words, sing the lyrics with spots where you can breath without breaking a word in half, and just pace yourself to have enough air. The emotion behind the songs that you have internalized will carry across to the listeners.

As far as practice time goes, I agree with Wyo Woman. I don't have a formal practice time. I start the day singing in the shower, I sing in the car, I sing doing the laundry, the dishes, while cooking, while cleaning the house. That's the time I practice skills and learn lyrics and really get songs to the point where they almost sing themselves. Then I know I'm ready to sing them anywhere.

Alice
(hi, KC - bat illo sent out last week, I'll email to you if you want to see it)


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 01:03 PM

On thec subject of birth control, I sing in a four part SATB choir, the President really broke everyone up the time she told us to "Keep up with the Sexual practises". She meant to say "sectional" JohnB


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Kim C
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 01:08 PM

I have been exercising regularly for the past six months and it has REALLY improved my breathing. ;-)


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: harpmolly
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 01:43 PM

Oooh...a thread full of great advice, all of which I am going to steal.

I know a little about breath control--I started singing in a very Broadway showtune-type context before I realized that Irish music was my true passion. :D Unfortunately, that shaped my voice so that now, when I'm belting out the Salley Gardens, the musicians I'm working with tell me to cut out the vibrato and lilt more. :P It seems that every genre I involve myself with looks down on all the other genres I've worked with. Can't we all just get along? *grin*

With a song in my heart,

M


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Challis
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 03:21 AM

This is great...I'm keeping this too. I started with a classical teacher and she was such a dragon about breathing I was like a pair of bellows and we (my folky-but-classical-trained friend and I) spent months getting the "Doris Day sings Opera" out of my voice.

Trouble is I never know when nerves are going to kick in..was singing in a support act for John Renbourn on Sunday.. and half way through the "big deal" issue fell on me like a tonne of bricks...my shoulders tensed/hunched up and I spent the rest of the set trying to uncurl them down so I could breathe.

Nerves! There's another question..I use Bach Flower Rescue Remdy..which helps and swill a drink around my mouth - which goes dry with fear before we go on!

Hope it all goes well for you, and it's good to get all this good advice in time to utilise it. Best wishes


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Peg
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 10:43 AM

Mollificent; I did some musical theatre style singing in between my classical training and finding traditional music! It was fun but I don't think it was necessarily good for my voice. But it DID help me learn how to sing over my "break" smoothly (where chest voice and head voice meet) since so many musical "character" roles (I was not quite "legit" enough to sing "legit" parts) are famous for songs which require this dexterity...The hardest one actually was Lucy in "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown," which most actresses end up doing by falling into soprano head range on the high notes. I was determined to keep it all in her brassy "yelling" mode and it was a lot of work and I nearly lost my voice at one point in rehearsal but I kept trying to do it as "musically" as I could and without harming my voice permanently, and eventually it worked and it brought the house down...Our accompanist was a great help as he understood what I was trying to do and offered encouragement (He also was the one who insisted I could play either Lucy or Snoopy, as long as the director was sure to cast me; she went with a redheaded dancer for Snoopy, much better choice).

Breath support was a big part of that lesson, and I do find I use that technique in traditional music at times; albeit not in a "belting" context.

Peg


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: JedMarum
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 04:43 PM

Breath Control While Singing? How about abstinence?

;-)


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: MMario
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 04:52 PM

I wish I had breath control...mostly I just pray...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST,Jeff
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 05:43 PM

My singing voice was so bad it frightened the horses. I then realised that my technique was to take a deep breath and then go till it ran out. At that point I would go off key (and how). I found a singing teacher in Yellow Pages and went along (it wasn't too expensive). He showed me basic breathing in half an hour and got me in tune. he also gave me advice about phrasing. Take Dylan's Zero which I sang for him and, in particular the phrase "without ideals or violence."

"Without ideals or vio-lennnnce" is impossible and trails off in embarassment.

but, put the lung buster on the penultimate syllable and you're laughing

"without ideals or viiiiio-lence".

Take heart. If a teacher can help me, he can help anyone.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 05:44 PM

I haven't had a chance to read all of the above ideas, so excuse me if I repeat any items. Breath control involves also singing smoothly and consistantly. You can do this by reading your sheet music and writing in commas where you should take a breath. READ your music and become familiar with the notation and the words and how they will sound when sung. Read, read, READ! Don't try to reach high notes by overpowereing the words. Imagine your woice as a straight line projecting outward instead of up and down. Also, OPEN WIDE! Most folks don't open their mouth enough and therefore strain their voices to reach the high notes. Try practicing in front of a mirror and see if that helps. Another thing you can do is place your hand flat on your abdominal muscles and press in with your hand and press out with your muscles at the same time for resistance. Good Luck and SMILE!


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Alice
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 09:24 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: RTim
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 09:32 AM

The best current singer with great breath control (to me at least!) is Ian Robb of Finest Kind (and of course Himself!!) - but he had the benefit of being a child choir boy at one of the great schools. However - if you want to listen to the best Traditional singer - listen to the GREAT Harry Cox - amazing phrasing and control - for a farm labourer!! Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Alice
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 12:52 PM

refresh for thread on hitting the wall - projecting your voice


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 01:01 PM

yes,I rate Harry Cox very highly too.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 03:11 PM

Cheers for the refresh of this Alice, and all the other valuable advice too...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 04:57 PM

"Birth Control while singing"

I thought I'd put it in here to preempt someone starting a clone thread...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 05:13 PM

Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Walking Eagle - PM
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 05:44 PM

Breath control involves also singing smoothly and consistantly. You can do this by reading your sheet music and writing in commas where you should take a breath. READ your music and become familiar with the notation and the words and how they will sound when sung. Read, read, READ!


well, that's all the "play it by ear" upstarts told off ...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: paula t
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:15 PM

At school I am constantly reminding the children to think about the way they are standing and breathing. I ask them to relax and feel for any tightening of their neck and jaw etc. I sometmes ask them to point to where they are "Singing from"(little ones usually point to their "tummy").
This is just a simple way to make them think about not singing (and breathing) from the throat.

I had to smile this week when one of my Reception children rushed up to me and said " Mrs Tindall - I've got a song in my tummy to sing for you!"

Makes life worthwhile.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 06:25 PM

I have found this thread so informative, thank you to all the contributors of invaluable advice. I recently decided to have vocal tuition even at my mature age (I am in my fifties) and after three lessons I aleady feel its a huge help. My teacher says that I have beautiful voice and am still only using 20% of it. I feel I am on a great learning path having tossed off the shackles of self limition! I avidly check out this wonderful site for inspiration and find it a great resource for learning new songs. Many thanks again to all


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 07:06 PM

I would really quite worry about the tendency towards standardisation seen here. Breathing is good - if you forget you tend to die - but folk music is narrative and the purpose of breathing is to phrase and no more in that context. Teachers are so often colonialists.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: paula t
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 07:12 PM

???
What sort of teachers?


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 08:10 PM

Singing from the colon...


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Beer
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 08:18 PM

For the type of singing I do, I thought I had good breath control. Then the heavy medication came along and f^%$Y)(* my breathing up. If I'm playing by myself I can do the timing thing with the guitar and voice, but when I play in a group if becomes very difficult.
beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Nov 08 - 08:19 PM

Well, you start with phrasing. And you finish with phrasing. That's about it.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 04:01 AM

The biggest barrier to good breath control is physical tension which can spread from any part of your body, causing your chest to tighten, and your shoulders to rise, thus restricting your airway. A few half-decent relaxation exercises go a long way to helping, but the simple act of dropping your shoulders to their natural position and keeping them there throughout the song often does the trick.
The other factor is the dreaded (woman's) head voice, which takes up twice as much air to produce and also can bring about the gear-change (a shift from head to chest voice in the middle of a song - a pain to control, and to listen to). Very few people speak in head voice (Marilyn Monroe maybe), making it basically artificial, so why sing in it?
We had a woman in our workshop who had breathing problems - not surprisingly, as she had a collapsed lung, but she eventually conquered it by moving from head voice to her natural (and very attractive) chest voice.
The older singers, eg Harry Cox and Sam Larner, even in extreme old age, managed to make sense of their songs by breathing in the appropriate places, often by taking snatch breaths with the commas as well as the usual full breaths with the full-stops.
Probably the best example was Phil Tanner; on the very rare occasions his breathing failed him (last line of Banks of Sweet Primroses), it stuck out like a sore thumb because it was so rare.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Alice
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 12:43 PM

It is not standardization, rather singing is as INDIVIDUAL as each body that makes the sound. The point is, there are ways you can learn to make the singing easier, more relaxed, not struggling for breath or harming your voice.


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Acorn4
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 01:52 PM

I'll really have to get new glasses. I was reading my screen from a bit of a distance away and was sure the thread said:-

"Birth Control While Singing"


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 02:48 PM

Those who seem to be sneering at the idea of breath control don't know what they are talking about. Phrasing, yes. That's an important part of it, and that tells one where to breath, but without good breath control, you could wind up having to do "catch breaths" that screw up good phrasing, or having to gasp between lines, which really messes up phrasing.

And poor breath control is one of a couple of reasons that some folks have trouble consistently singing on pitch.

"Standardization" has nothing to do with it. Some people seem to have good breath control naturally and don't have to worry about it. Others don't, and those are the folks the advice is for.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Breath Control While Singing
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 Nov 08 - 08:45 PM

I generally use Listerine!

Works for me...

Art


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