Subject: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 07 Jun 01 - 07:44 PM BROWN IS THE SHIT Words: Stephen L. Suffet © 2001 Music: RED IS THE ROSE (trad) Brown is the shit, my flowers grow in it, And without it I could not plant my garden, But at times my shit will smell, like the furnaces of Hell, And for that I humbly beg your pardon! I came to sing a song and to help this world along, And maybe add my voice to the choir, But when I open up my mouth, the shit comes pouring out, And that isn't what I desire. I simply cannot say how I went astray, I only wanted to be helpful, I never meant to hurt, nor to sling around the dirt, But I guess I wasn't very careful. So now I will shut up before I add more smut, To a world that's already sullied, Don't ask for my advice, or expect me to be nice, And I'll be not the bully nor the bullied. Brown is the shit, my flowers grow in it, And without it I could not plant my garden, But at times my shit will smell, like the furnaces of Hell, And for that I humbly beg your pardon! Note: I wrote this song without any particular individual in mind. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Jeep man Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:16 PM How did Mudcat get this low? Jeep |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: SINSULL Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:22 PM Point well taken Steve. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:28 PM Just remember that I wrote this without any particular individual in mind. It is neither biographical nor autobiographical, and yet it can apply to any of us at times. Maybe we can see our own selves speaking with the voice of the singer; maybe we can't. But we all have the capacity to intend good and turn out being hurtful, especially when we get caught up in the passions of the moment. And then, if we are fundamentally of people of good will, our inclination is to withdraw. That is until the next good scrape come along. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:32 PM I meant until the next good scrape comes along. Thirty years a teacher and I still can't get those pesky little subjects and verbs to agree. How am I ever going to get people to do the same? --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:35 PM Yeah. Those who insist on perfection are inevitably disappointed, and I guess that includes me. Yet the enlightened see perfection all around them...not insisting... Enlightenment is clearly some way off at this point, at least as far as I'm concerned. - LH |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:35 PM -I dont like your song i think its silly. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Jeri Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:47 PM Forgive me, Steve, but if I got pissed off enough to feel the sort of things in your song, I wouldn't feel much like singing, and I don't think I'd want my friends around if I did sing that one. Shit splatters when you fling it hard enough.
Well, I wrote one that has this chorus: |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: SINSULL Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:48 PM Once a year, my co-op's Garden Committee fertilizes. The stench is unreal - I live on the first floor and bear the brunt of it. But then we have the most beautiful gardens to enjoy all year round. Wedding parties come in for photographs; children have birthday parties; graduations, first communions, memorial services, concerts, spontaneous song circles and parties. Marriage proposals and divorce agreements have been finalized there. Multiple cats, dogs, turtles, birds, hamsters, etc. lie interred in it. The place is heaven. So I put up with a little shit once in a while. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Áine Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:52 PM Dear Steve, I admit, I initially looked at this thread expecting some kind of rant, and I was pleasantly (yes, fellow 'Catters, pleasantly) surprised to find your song. Now, I can't say that your poetic prowess is Grade A (yet); however, I got the point of your song and I like the idea behind it. Come on, 'Catters, don't get hung up on a pretty innocuous four letter word -- one that I'm fairly sure most of you use as an invective at least once a day -- read Steve's song over a few times, and I think you'll understand what he's trying to say. Really, what word would you expect him to use -- 'poo'?? Steve, as a mother of four, a person who is owned by two dogs and four cats, a person who tends a garden, and a former legal secretary, I've had to deal with enough shit, real AND euphemistic, to understand your song. I hope you keep writing -- you've got a way with words, my son! ;-) All the best, Áine |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Jeri Date: 07 Jun 01 - 09:59 PM Áine, if you haven't already done so, search for "suffet" in the DT. He has written quite a few good ones. (I just don't care for this one - too passive/aggressive, and I've expended a lot of effort trying to recognise and slay that particular beast in my own personality.) |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Jun 01 - 10:06 PM Ah, I just love Steve! Hardi is in stitches. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 07 Jun 01 - 10:06 PM Jeri, it's meant to be passive-aggressive, but it's not necessarily meant to be autobiographical. My intent is to let us see the potential for passive-aggressiveness in each and any of us. Are we ever going write some more songs together? "They're Not Writing Folk Songs Like They Used to Anymore" is one of my standards. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Black is the Soul From: Amos Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:31 AM Black is the soul -- his karma still within in it Winking like a chilled and dying ember Dead-frozen in the race yet swearing he shall win it Pretending Spring, he lives in late December. Cold is the lie wherein his lost soul dwelleth Simple excuses!! Cover now the bleeding Taraa!Taraa! The horns of glory warn him! Not about anyone in particular. A |
Subject: Amber Is the Beer From: Suffet Date: 08 Jun 01 - 06:17 AM Amber is the beer and amber is the ale, And amber is the good strong liquor, And amber is the pee that soon they all will be, But a song can transform even quicker. © Stephen L. Suffet 2001 Not about any song in particular. Anyone wish to try his/her hand at another color? --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Patrish(inactive) Date: 08 Jun 01 - 06:34 AM Red is the nose, too much drinkin' I suppose Pink is the colour of me eyeballs Green is the sleeve where I usually wipe my nose Oh why has my love left me? Patrish xx |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: GUEST,Lori Date: 08 Jun 01 - 08:29 AM White is his hair except where his head is bare, And white is his beard and his moustache, And white are the lies he tells with smiling eyes, As my heart he so gently touches. Oh, first he did see me in Washington, D.C., When people on the Mall were sunning, I asked him to my room, to play a loving tune, And perhaps to do some fancy strumming. He followed me there, then much to my despair, His hands held only his old Martin, Three hours passed in song, while my aching heart did long, And still it did long at our parting. Oh, are you so naieve? Or do you just believe, It was only a little harmless flirting? Am I ugly? Are you gay? Have your fires gone away? Or do you like to leave a poor girl hurting? This is about a particular individual. Smithsonian Folk Festival, 1998. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Matt_R Date: 08 Jun 01 - 08:44 AM Red is my ass from passing too much gas Large is the hole in my boxers When releasing all that air I knew they soon would tear But I didn't know it too would rip my Dockers... |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Noreen Date: 08 Jun 01 - 08:46 AM Oh, Lori... I felt that... |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Maryrrf Date: 08 Jun 01 - 09:37 AM Raising two boys probably got me used to stuff like this and made me appreciate crude humor (think - Dumb and Dumber - yeah it really was dumb but it made me laugh!). I thought this thread was hilarious. It brightened up my Friday morning at work. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: mousethief Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:08 PM I was expecting a take-off on "Black is the colour" --- along the lines of
Brown is the colour of my true love's shit or something like that Alex |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Lonesome EJ Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:20 PM Oh brown is the color of my true love's hair In the morning when we rise In the morning when we rise That's the time That's the time I love the best
But red is the color of my true love's hair |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: mousethief Date: 08 Jun 01 - 12:20 PM Ewwwww. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Ringer Date: 08 Jun 01 - 01:24 PM Oh, sorry: I thought this thread was about the British Chancellor of the Exchequer. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Noreen Date: 08 Jun 01 - 01:59 PM LOL Bald Eagle- never thought of that! |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jun 01 - 03:26 PM Lori - ouch. Matt - Spaw is recuperating so you're filling in? Doing well, young man. |
Subject: Lori's song From: GUEST,LW still at work Date: 08 Jun 01 - 04:47 PM Great job, Lori. Your song is one of impassioned sexuality without being the least bit bawdy. I know too many guys like that. They would rather play guitar than make love. Go figure. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Jeri Date: 08 Jun 01 - 05:38 PM OK, so it's still too passive/aggressive for me. Somebody might take it seriously. Too brain-dead from a summer cold to think of a verse...
Green are my plants, and the grass stains on my pants (I use Cock-A-Doodle-Poo on my garden, and boy, does it stink!) |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: 2 in harmony Date: 08 Jun 01 - 09:12 PM Lori, maybe you were lucky. Young guys are often much better on their Martins than ... |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Matt_R Date: 08 Jun 01 - 09:51 PM I try, Sins. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: GUEST Date: 08 Jun 01 - 10:12 PM Lori: What hurts ME the most is that I would have NEVER continued to hold the guitar... but I've never had the opportunity to show that.
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Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Deckman Date: 08 Jun 01 - 10:45 PM WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE GROW UP! |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: GUEST,Trsty Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:30 AM Was that a dreadnaught Martin with the big box? |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:51 AM Sinsull, I'm in tears, just sobbing away..........Our little boy is growing up and striking out with confidence into the world of the completely depraved......................*sigh*................... Spaw |
Subject: Reply to Lori's Song From: Suffet Date: 09 Jun 01 - 11:45 AM Note: This is purely an intellectual exercize. Think of it in terms of my previous "answer" songs, such as "Willie McBride's Reply" and "The South Coast Revisited." REPLY TO LORI'S SONG Tune: "Red Is the Rose" Words: Stephen L. Suffet © 2001 That day upon the Mall, I clearly do recall, And the songs that we sang together, Then you took me to your room, you said to sing a tune, And to find a little shelter from the weather. I told you way back then, I was a married man, And I harbored no desire for cheating. Is it really so absurd to be taken at my word, Even though our passions were heating? Oh, your beauty did allure, of that you can be sure, As I felt the fires a-startin', So to myself I said, as I sat there on your bed: Steve, don't put down your Martin! I still want to be your friend, may our friendship never end, May we sing 'til the Sun sets upon us, And I'll love you in a way that friends love every day, Think of philos, not eros. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: wysiwyg Date: 09 Jun 01 - 12:43 PM Oh Matt, I felt that! ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Mr Red Date: 09 Jun 01 - 12:49 PM Mr Red (real name Brown) is not amused. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: GUEST Date: 09 Jun 01 - 01:08 PM Brown are the stinky fingers of cigarette and cigar smokers. And they stink worse than the shit in Suffet's garden. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Matt_R Date: 09 Jun 01 - 03:19 PM Suffet, "Willie McBride's Reply" was YOURS? Whoa! I love that, man! I ALWAYS sing it after "The Green fields of France". It's brought a tear to my eye more than once, where Bogle's original DIDN'T. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:06 PM There are two "Willie McBride's Reply" songs. One is a crude slapstick parody. The other is a serious song about a young man who feels that his death in the Great War was for something meaningful and important. I wrote the latter. You can find it in the Digital Tradition. It contains these lines: Ask the people of Belgium or Alsace-Lorraine, If my life was wasted, if I died in vain. I think they will tell you, when all's said and done, They welcomed this lad with his tin hat and gun. I am not the author of the comical parody. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Matt_R Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:11 PM Yes, Suffet, that's the one I was speaking of! At the end where you have "We knew why we died, and we'd do it again and again and again" is where I usually break down. |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:30 PM Matt, I am flattered to hear your response. The irony is that I really love Eric Bogle's original. But I feel that there is more than one side to the story, and I felt it important to give a voice to the many Willie McBrides who believed that the Allied cause in the Great War was right and just. In the same manner I wrote "The South Coast Revisited" from the vantage point of the teenage girl who is used as property to settle her father's gambling debt to the son of a nobleman. And for a similar reason I wrote the response to Lori's song. In no instance would I want my reply to supplant the original. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: 2 in harmony Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:49 PM Suffet, Nice song to guest Lori. Was that philos as in"words" as opposed to love (eros) |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 09 Jun 01 - 05:59 PM "Philos" and "eros" both mean love. The distinction is the kind of love. Many English words derive from "philos," including "philosophy" (love of wisdom) and "philanthropy" (love of mankind). "Logos" means word. You can put the two together and get "philology" (love of words). A good friend of mine majored in Romance philology, i.e. the origin and development of the Romance languages. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: mousethief Date: 09 Jun 01 - 06:09 PM And "eros" means sexual love (Eros being the Greek god of .... um....) Alex |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Matt_R Date: 09 Jun 01 - 07:05 PM Go ahead and say it Alex, you know you want to!! The God of Doin' the Nasty!! |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Suffet Date: 09 Jun 01 - 07:16 PM I thought that was implicit in my answer. The ancient Greeks also had a third word for love: "agape" (AH-guh-pay). It meant unconditional love, rather than love based on some reciprocity. The early Christians used the term "agape" to describe Jesus's love for humanity. I'm not a Christian, but I learned that somewhere, even before we had the Internet. By the way, Lori's song is erotic without being nasty. --- Steve |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Helen Date: 09 Jun 01 - 08:19 PM I haven't read this thread right through yet, but every time I look at the title I think of the Michael Franti song called "Love is the shit" In my (humble) opinion Michael Franti is one of the best poets of these two centuries. He's a rappy, hip-hoppy-type singer Helen "Love is the shit" (M. Franti/C. Hunter) performed by Spearhead
Say when you called me that night
But the warmth of your lips on my fingertips
(chorus)
But fate is like a pigeon that follows me around
The irrepressible and impermissable
(chorus)
(bridge)
"ya know falling in love is like easing into a hot tub
But music brings me cover in this grieving hour
(chorus)
(bridge) |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Helen Date: 09 Jun 01 - 08:33 PM Ok, now I have read the whole thread. Suffet, I like your song a lot - the first one, I mean. I have been in that frame of mind where I know that if I open my mouth only bad and sad and angry things will burst out uncontrollably, in a scatter-shot way, so I decide that keeping my mouth shut is better for everyone until I can regain my psychological and emotional balance. I especially like the bit about not being the bully or the bullied. I can really relate to that - very specifically. After having posted the song by Franti, I realise how well it fits with your song in response to Lori's song. Nice work, everyone. Helen |
Subject: RE: Brown Is the Shit From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 09 Jun 01 - 11:08 PM SORRY! A couple of days ago I said your song was silly,ive read it again it isnt.I read it proprly this time and it made me think.sorry again.john(in hull) |
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