Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: The Walrus at work
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:24 AM

How about "Now is the Hour" (Moari Farewell?) ?

Regards

Walrus

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From:
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:09 PM

Good one the Maori one...put me in mind of the Hawaiian war chant...it doesn't sound military...but it is an awesome tune. I heard a Hawaiian drumming group drum and chant it at 2000 Seattle Folk life...it was awesome....I'd put it in one of my 10 best tunes list....also a couple of years ago there was always on the radio this group of I believe Native American girls doing something that was to the tune of Gary Owen or perhaps another Irish common tune but I think Gary Owen..and it was also in Indian style. There are probably numerous Native American chants etc.

It would be helpful if we knew more about this project. One thing I would recommend is using stuff contemporary to whatever war you are describing. No matter how pretty or powerfula song I could write about the Civil War it just wouldn't be the same as someone who had experienced some aspect of it. mg

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 01:22 PM

53 posts, lots of suggestions, and no Beth.........

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 01:24 AM

Thanks for the "Now is the Hour" plug Walrus - I've known and loved it for as long as I can remember, which is quite a while. There's an NZ website with words in Maori and English, which I can't find at the moment - my ISP's name-server has gone cranky.

Will get back ASAP

Sam - in NZ

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: Billy the Bus
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 03:17 AM

Serch problems are resolved. Alas, I can't find the "Now is the Hour" site I was looking for. Best I can find for Maori/English lyrics is that of Jenny George - she also has a WAV of her singing it. Wish I could find the history of the song though. It was popularised during WWII by Bing Crosby, Gracie Fields et. al. I thought it was WWI in origin, but found it predates that too. Someone has sheet music from 1913 for sale...;)

Anyway, my best find was WT Paull Memoirs - There's a nice midi on that page of reminiscences of a US Marine in NZ in 1943. There's also a few verses of other WWII songs.

Howsomever....

Go to the homepage and work through the site. It's great - many references to the songs we know and love...;)

Cheers - Sam

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: GeorgeH
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 06:05 AM

Of couse what's appropriate may depend on the nature of the project and how authentic you want it to be . . WWI pieces are hardly appropriate to something about your civil war!

For a tune I'd suggest "Battle of the Somme" - which is said to be a folk composition from the trenches at that time, and works well as a march/processional. Well, we used it as such for an Hiroshima Day commemoration at Sidmouth one year.

George

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: pavane
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 08:03 AM

I have a complete book of soldier songs, The Cruel Wars, by Karl Dallas. Would you like me to look there?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: pavane
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 08:13 AM

I have a complete book of soldier songs, The Cruel Wars, by Karl Dallas. Would you like me to look there?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: Uncle Jaque
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 11:31 AM

Billy the Bus posted: Date: 11-Jun-01 - 08:07 AM

Uncle Jaque, can you point me to midis or somesuch, which give the difference between "Last Post" and "Taps" ...
BtB: Yes, actually; go to: Click here

Which came first?

1. Lorena in the US "Cyril" War
According to Silbur (below) date of publication was 1857, obviously a "Pre-ACW" piece. It was written by a Rev. H.D.L. Webster. I have several versions of it, including "The Songs of The Civil War" Compiled by Irwin Silber, Musical arrangements by Jerry Silverman; NY; Dover Publications, p. 134. "Lorena" is one of my favorites, and never fails to evoke a host of bittersweet memories.

2. When You and I were Young (Maggie)attrib Trad Irish?
I'm not quite sure when that one came about, but have it in at least one collection of "Minstrel" Songs, and am of the impression that it also predated 1861 by several years. It was written by George W. Johnson and J.A. Butterfeild, if that helps any.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: GUEST,fortunatefoole
Date: 13 Jun 01 - 08:35 AM

have you tried The Minstrel Boy Why soldiers Why? The cruel war The Dying Redcoat The Vacant chair Forget not the field The Skye boat song Taliesen's Prophecy All through the night (Boer war) Danny Boy Twa Corbies Hanging on the old barbed wire I want to go home When this lousy war is over All quiet along the Potomac O touch not my sisters picture Give this to Mother He is coming to us dead

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: GUEST,Beth
Date: 13 Jun 01 - 08:40 PM

Wow, thanks guys!! You rock! -Beth

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: 8_Pints
Date: 14 Jun 01 - 09:06 PM

Beth,

The Peat Bog Soldiers inthe DT is certainly mournful and might deliver the effect you are looking for.

It relates to the inmates of Hitler's concentration camps just before the war and reminds us that the inmates were "soldiers" fighting injustice & tyranny.

The tune can be found on Swan Arcade LP (LER 2032) - but probably long since deleted.

Bob vG

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Need sad military sounding song w/
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Sep 11 - 06:25 PM

lucero the war