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Subject: what's the use of wings
From: jet@netquarters.net
Date: 25 Apr 98 - 10:11 PM

Does anyone have the words for this haunting song? what's the use of wings if you can't fly.


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Subject: RE: whar's the use of wings
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 27 Apr 98 - 07:01 PM

Or beat the Coyotes, for heaven's sake.


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Subject: RE: whar's the use of wings
From: William Pint
Date: 28 Apr 98 - 01:47 AM

I believe you are referring to "Wings" by Brian Bedford of the acapella group Artisan. Others have covered the song though


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Subject: RE: whar's the use of wings
From: William Pint
Date: 28 Apr 98 - 08:44 PM

If it is Brian's song you are looking for - try Artisan's webpage - it may have lyrics or at least you can e-mail a request for the words. http://www.artifact.demon.co.uk/index.htm


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Subject: RE: whar's the use of wings
From: Will
Date: 28 Apr 98 - 09:42 PM

For those of you who might not quite have got Tim's reference to the Coyotes (an a capella folk group now based in Phoenix, having moved there from Winnepeg where its either too cold or too hot or too mosquitoed to sing without accompaniment), he means the following site

http://www.detroitredwings.com/


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Subject: RE: Lyr. req. WINGS by Artisan (England)
From: mike
Date: 03 Oct 98 - 05:19 PM

do you mean the one:-

what's the use of wing's if you can't fly?


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Subject: RE: Lyr. req. WINGS by Artisan (England)
From: mike at user@cas.softnet.co.uk
Date: 04 Oct 98 - 05:56 AM

I've looked and I don't have that track. You might try contacting Artisan Direct they are really nice people. You can contact them at :-

ARTISAN@ARTIFACT.DEMON.CO.UK

or go to their web page at :-

WWW.ARTIFACT.DEMON.CO.UK

A lot depends on why you want the words, for personal reasons (in which case they will tell you which CD it's on, and offer to sell it to you mail order). Or for performance in which case they will discuss a fee.

I hoe this is of some use to you.

mike


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Subject: RE: Lyr. req. WINGS by Artisan (England)
From: keev to mike
Date: 04 Oct 98 - 04:40 PM

Thanks Mike for the information. Yes, that's the one! I go to a local folk club where I had seen Artisan. That song is one of my favorites. I'll look for their CD.


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Subject: ADD: WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS (Brian Bedford)^^^
From: skw@
Date: 06 Oct 98 - 05:04 AM

WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS
(Brian Bedford)

I could have been a giant, said the bonsai tree
But someone bound my roots and held me down
I could have reached the heavens, said the snowy owl
But they clipped my wings and kept me on the ground
I think I heard them tell me they loved me
They'd care for me, without them I would die
What's the use of roots if you can`t spread them
What's the use of wings if you can't fly

I could have been a singer, said the minor bird mynah bird
But they caged me and they told me what to say
I could have run forever, said the pony
But they bridled me and made me go their way
I think I heard them tell me they loved me
They'd care for me forever, so it seemed
What's the use of voices without freedom
What's the use of living others' dreams

Why do people cage those things they love the most
Is it simply that they fear to be alone
If you give your love its freedom it will stay awhile
If it leaves you it was never yours to own

I could have found adventure, said the angel fish
Now my world's so small there's nowhere I can go
I could have ruled a kingdom, said the lion
But the world inside my head is all I know
I think I heard them tell me they loved me
They'd care for me and it would be all right
What's the use of life without adventure
What's the use of strength if you can't fight

Why do people cage those things they love the most
Is it simply that they fear to be alone
If you give your love its freedom it will stay awhile
If it leaves you it was never yours to own

As sung by Iain MacKintosh

Susanne ^^^


What's the Use of Wings? recorded by Jackie Oates & Megan Henwood Recording by Artisan:


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Subject: RE: Lyr. req. WINGS by Artisan (England)
From: keev to skw@
Date: 07 Oct 98 - 11:51 PM

Thanks a million to take the time to write the lyrics, Susanne! It was very exciting! :) keev


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Subject: RE: Lyr. req. WINGS by Artisan (England)
From: skw@ to keev
Date: 08 Oct 98 - 06:33 AM

Pleasure! I've been collecting song lyrics and backgrounds to songs for ages, particularly Scottish and English ones, mainly by soloists, so if there's anything else you're looking for maybe I can help. As I've got them in the database all I have to do is to add a little HTML. (However, I managed to crash my computer last night ...) - Susanne


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS? (B Bedford)^^
From: Mbo
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 01:38 PM

What's The Use of Wings?

"I could have been a giant" said the bonsai tree
"But someone bound my roots and held me down."
"I could have reached the Heavens" said the snowy owl
"But they clipped my wings and kept me on the ground."

"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me
That they'd care for me--without them I would die
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them?
What's the use of wings if you can't fly?"

"I could have been a singer" said the Myna bird
"But they caged me and told me what to say."
"I could have run forever" said the pony
"But they bridled me and made me go their way."

"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me
That they'd care for me forever so it seems
What's the use of voices without freedom?
What's the use of living other's dreams?"

Why do people cage the things they love the most?
Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give you're love it's freedom, it will stay awhile
If it leaves you, it was never yours to own

"I could have found adventure" said the angelfish
"Now my world's so small there's nowhere left to go."
"I could have ruled a kingdom" said the lion
"Now this land inside my head is all I know."

"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me
That they'd care for me, and tell me it's alright
But what's the use of life without adventure?
What's the use of strength if you can't fight?"

Why do people cage the things they love the most?
Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give your love its freedom, it will stay awhile
If it leaves you, it was never yours to own

"I know I heard them tell me that they loved me
That they'd care for me, without them I would die
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them?
What's the use of wings if you can't fly?"
^^
This is from the album "Other Roads" by the John Wright Band.

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: What's The Use of Wings?
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 26 Apr 00 - 06:02 PM

I wasn't even aware of the other recordings. I only know it as an Artisan song (Hilary Spencer singing lead and Jacey and Brian Bedford adding their superb harmonies). Brian sure do write some fine songs.

Vin Garbutt, you say? Gotta track that one down.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: What's The Use of Wings?
From: Tim Salt
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 02:15 PM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: What's The Use of Wings?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 27 Apr 00 - 09:38 PM

This is a wonderful song, which had swept through the British folk scene like wildfire before I came to the States. Funnily enough I haven't heard it sung over here. Do any Mudcatters do it as part of their set?
Also nice to see the John Wright Band getting a mention there, Mbo. Their CD is great but live they are phenomenal.

Murray


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Subject: Whats the use of wings
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:54 AM

Heard a brilliant performance of this Bob Bedford piece over the weekends and really got it hooked into the cerebral cortex.

I have managed to find the lyrics but can anyone give me the chords?

Thanks AWM


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:02 AM

Matt R knows this, maybe he can help out. (My answer--depends on what key you're in........doh)


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: JudeL
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:13 AM

I know the tune. Its something I sing quite frequently, but I can't do dots & I've not yet worked out how to use things like pal talk? Where abouts are you? Jude


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:45 AM

In London. I don't do dots either I was just looking for the guitar chord sequence for the verse and the bridge. I tried starting out in G/Em/Am/D but I am not sure where it goes after that....


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS (B Bedford
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:49 AM

WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS?
D...................................................Bm
"I could have been a giant," said the bonsai tree,
.........G..........................Bm......................A
"But someone bound my roots and held me down."
D................................................................Bm
"I could have reached the heavens," said the snowy owl,
.................G............................A.....................D
"But they clipped my wings and kept me on the ground."
....G.........................A.....................D
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me,
..................G........................Bm....................A
That they'd care for me--without them I would die,
..........D................................................Bm
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them?
G..........................A.......................D
What's the use of wings if you can't fly?"


"I could have been a singer," said the Myna bird,
"But they caged me and told me what to say."
"I could have run forever," said the pony,
"But they bridled me and made me go their way."
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me,
That they'd care for me forever so it seems.
What's the use of voices without freedom?
What's the use of living others' dreams?"
Why do people cage the things they love the most?
Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give your love its freedom, it will stay awhile.
If it leaves you, it was never yours to own.

"I could have found adventure," said the angelfish.
"Now my world's so small there's nowhere left to go."
"I could have ruled a kingdom," said the lion.
"Now this land inside my head is all I know."
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me,
That they'd care for me, and tell me it's alright,
But what's the use of life without adventure?
What's the use of strength if you can't fight?"

Why do people cage the things they love the most?
Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give your love its freedom, it will stay awhile
If it leaves you, it was never yours to own

"I know I heard them tell me that they loved me
That they'd care for me, without them I would die,
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them?
What's the use of wings if you can't fly?"


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Subject: Chords Add: WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS (Brian Bedford
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:50 AM

Damn, the chorus chords should go like this (HTML ARG!)

....G.........................A.....................D
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me
..................G........................Bm....................A
That they'd care for me--without them I would die
..........D................................................Bm
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them?
G..........................A.......................D
What's the use of wings if you can't fly?"


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:40 PM

Matt, the tune as I have heard it requires a Em in the second line rather than a Bm Also in the chorus, I would throw in a Bm after the D at the end of the first line before going up to G.

Great song, deserves to be better known. The author's name is "Brian" Bedford incidentally, although for all I know he may be known as "Bob" to his friends.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:48 PM

The Em works, but you can get a neat sound by replacing the Bm's with D/B's. I tried the Bm in the chorus, but it doesn't seem to work. You must remember that I figured these chords out for myself, 3 years ago, after hearing the version by The John Wright Band.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 08:56 PM

I've tried the Bm too and on second thoughts I agree it doesn't work. Better to do an ascending bass run (E, F#,G) on the bass E string.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:01 PM

There! I like that much better. John Wright, at the end of the song, does the last line G A G, then uses the G-F#-E bass run and ends on D.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:08 PM

I have just had a rummage through my CD's and Vin Garbutt's version appears to be the only one I possess. I think I left my John Wright Band CD in Scotland. Doesn't he do a cracking version of Andy M Stewart's "Queen of all Argyll" as well?

Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Matt_R
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:13 PM

I'm not sure...all I have by him is "What's The Use of Wings" and Si Kahn's "What You Do With What You Got".


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 09:19 PM

Ah, you need to try to get the CD. I am not sure what he is up to at present , I know that whatssisname who played guitar in the band left for a solo career. They were a dynamite live band , I hope he makes it over to the States one day.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 11 Jun 01 - 10:35 PM

Jeez, not a mention of the group. Brian Bedford (no relation to the actor so far as I know) is the prime songwriter as well as being 1/3 of the English a capella group "Artisan".

I've not been familiar with the other recordings mentioned, so it's nice to see; I'll keep an eye out for them.

Artisan often tours on this side of the pond, and I know they'll be in southern Ontario next winter (the White Oak Folk Club in Oakville, Ontario on Feb 9 for sure). A long wait, to be sure, but well worth it!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: shankmac
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 05:01 AM

John Wright Band are still playing together but they are also doing some solo stuff. They have said that they will split after booking committments in Feb 2002. John has just returned from his first short visit to the east coast of U.S.A. which went very well. He toured with a very good Irish singer/song writer, Maurice Dickson. I am sure John will be planning another tour in the States in the future. I will let you know if and when he does.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 12 Jun 01 - 10:09 AM

Thanks for all this. I will give it a try tonight on the new ax.

I stand corrected re "Brian", my once perfect memory is now blown away by too much beer and chorus-singing :)

only query left is what is the sequence for the "bridge" section?

Why do people cage the things they love the most?
Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give your love its freedom, it will stay awhile
If it leaves you, it was never yours to own

Actually my transpose down to G/Em/Am/D was pretty close


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Subject: 'What good are wings if you can't fly?'
From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@hotmail.com
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 03:02 AM

I heard a song (on Thistle & Shamrock, I think) that ended with the line, "What good are roots if (--------------?), what good are wings if you can't fly?" Does anyone know the name of the song or the group that sang it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: 'What good are wings if you c
From: nutty
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 03:53 AM

The correct title os the song is What's the use of Wings and it was written by Brian Bedford of Artisan and was recorded by them.

I'm sure it has been posted in the Forum but "search" is not running at present so I can't check


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHAT'S THE USE OF WINGS (B Bedford)^^^
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 08:19 AM

Sorry, I don't have the chords - I do it a capella. But here be the words:

What's The Use of Wings?
Brian Bedford

verse:

"I could have been a giant" said the bonsai tree, "But someone bound my roots and held me down."
"I could have reached the Heavens" said the snowy owl, "But they clipped my wings & kept me on the ground."
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me, that they'd care for me--without them I would die
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them? And what's the use of wings if you can't fly?"

"I could have been a singer" said the myna bird, "But they caged me and told me what to say."
"I could have run forever" said the pony, "But they bridled me and made me go their way."
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me; that they'd care for me forever so it seems
But what's the use of voices without freedom? And what's the use of living other's dreams?"

bridge:

Why do people cage the things they love the most? Is it simply that they fear to be alone?
If you give you're love it's freedom, it will stay awhile. If it leaves you, it was never yours to own

"I could have found adventure" said the angel fish, "Now my world's so small there's nowhere left to go."
"I could have ruled a kingdom" said the lion, "Now this land inside my head is all I know."
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me; that they'd care for me, and tell me it's alright
But what's the use of life without adventure? What's the use of strength if you can't fight?"

repeat bridge:

and end with:
"I think I heard them tell me that they loved me, that they'd care for me--without them I would die
But what's the use of roots if you can't spread them? And what's the use of wings if you can't fly?"
^^^


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: 'What good are wings if you c
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 10:03 PM

Member Matt R knows the chords I think-- hopefully he will see this, since the person requesting is not a member and cannot send him a PM.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: What's The Use of Wings?
From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@onebox.com
Date: 28 Jul 01 - 11:24 PM

Thanks so much to Mbo and you other folks who replied! I just loved the song when I heard it, but I didn't know how to get a copy. I'll try to find one of the CD's that has it.

Meanwhile, can someone post the chords?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: 'What good are wings if you c
From: GUEST,Jeanene
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 05:21 PM

Thanks for posting the lyrics, Jeremiah,
Can someone post either the chords or, preferable, a midi of this song?
Jeanene


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Gillie
Date: 18 Oct 01 - 10:44 AM

"Queen of All Argyll" is on the album Other Roads


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: breezy
Date: 18 Oct 01 - 07:53 PM

Em extensively in the bridges. I've been doing the artisan version for over a decade.Pick the melody on the top strings and let the notes lead you into the chord progression. .


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Genie
Date: 21 Oct 01 - 11:16 PM

Thanks to y'all for posting the chords. Genie


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Genie
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 02:50 PM

Breezy, from having heard the song once, I believe the chords would be pretty easy to figure out -- if I could remember the tune!
I recently posted a "Tune request" thread for this song, and in that thread someone posted a link to a MIDI or MP3 of the song, but so far I have not been able to play it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 22 Oct 01 - 06:11 PM

Genie, if you send me a PM, I will send you my phone no. and if you so wish, I will play the Vin Garbutt version of this song which is the same as Brian Bedford's original version.

We can have a workshop on the chords afterwards if you wish :-)

Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Genie
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 01:54 PM

Thanks, Murray. I'll try to send the PM. But you can also email me your phone number at geniesings@hotmail.com.
Genie


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 28 Oct 01 - 02:03 PM

Also see this thread.

Lin


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 03:46 PM

Genie, I kind of like the idea of a link to the thread you're posting to, has a kind of existentialist logic about it, but I think you meant to post a different link ??? *G* Murray


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Whats the use of wings
From: Genie
Date: 08 Mar 02 - 06:26 PM

Right, Murray -- I posted the right link but posted it to the wrong thread (i.e., to itself!). Thanks for telling me.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: What's the Use of Wings (B Bedford
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 06 Oct 18 - 11:18 AM

there is a live video of Vin Garbutt on You Tube playing it and he seems to be playing it in Drop D a great song


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: What's the Use of Wings (B Bedford
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Mar 20 - 05:58 PM

Just been introduced to this wonderful rendition of a beautiful song. I am not much of a player but little of the above seems to make sense. I am clearly missing something albeit many years on. Thats not b minor is it ? on vins playing? And certainly some sort of dropped D or is it d model dadgad.
Be so lovely to be able to play the chords he actually played but so far no one seems to know. Maybe that's for the best I dont know.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: What's the Use of Wings (B Bedford
From: Nick
Date: 31 Mar 20 - 08:38 PM

He’s playing in drop D nothing more exotic.

Chords look and sound to me like
D 000232
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: What's the Use of Wings (Brian Bedford)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 22 - 05:25 PM

Just a minor correction to the lyrics above. It's 'Mynah bird'. If you haven't heard of that bird look it up and the lyrics make even more sense

    I also prefer to spell the word "mynah," but reference sources say that "myna" is also correct and appears to be the preferred spelling.
    Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myna


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