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Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II

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Subject: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 06:02 PM

I hate to give you guys another long list but I figured I might as well sock it to you all at once than do it in dribs and drabs. So here it is. Good luck and thank you in advance.

- Lough Sheelin Eviction - Farewell to My Own Native Land - Micheal Collins - Boys of Co. Armagh - Barry's Column - Guinness Song - My Lagan Flows Softly - Flight of the Earls - Belfast - Four Poster Bed - Lovely Armagh - The Town I Loved so Well - Ireland Boys Hurrah - Bonny Woodhall - Edward - Sile - Bonnie Jean Cameron - Till I Sleep - When the Kye Come Hame - Broken Wings - Uncle Dan McGann - Short Cut Through the Fields - Kilnamartyra Exile - Fisherman's Dream - How Can You Buy Killarny - Killeater Fair - Sweet Marie - Birthday of St. Patrick - Come All Ye Young and Tender Maidens - Rebels of Our Land - Kelly the Boy from Killane - Eamonn an Chniuic - Donald MacGilavry - Heart and Soul - Wark o' the Weavers

Most of it is Irish but there is some Scottish mixed in with it. I've been all over the Forum and the DT but I couldn't find these specific songs. I hope you guys enjoy a challenge because this one sure is.

Again thank you very much for your effort.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Red Eye
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 06:43 PM

Town I Loved So Well and a few more.

click here


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Jun 01 - 09:30 PM

You can't have tried very hard.  The following are easily found here by searching for the titles you gave, so I won't give links:

Flight of the Earls
The Town I Loved so Well
Bonnie Jean Cameron
Broken Wings
Donald MacGillavry (but only if you spell it right)
Work of the Weavers (ALWAYS try a standard English spelling if you can't find it using a dialectal one)

When the Kye Come Hame: there are two.  an English song, Felton Lonnin, can be found by searching for "kye cam".  A different, Scottish song by the same name can be found at  Lesley Nelson's Site  -use the search engine there.

The Four Poster Bed is a dance tune, particularly popular in Shetland; so far as I know, it has never had any words attached to it.

The  Fisherman's Dream  is Scottish.

With a little imagination, the following can be found under other names; do bear in mind that most traditional songs have more than one title (tip: search for part of the title, or for key phrases from the song - bear in mind that you, or the person who posted the words, may not know how to spell them!):

FAIR AND TENDER LADIES  (American set).
KELLY, THE BOY FROM KILLANNE
A search for Eamonn a Chnuic  (ALWAYS TRY ALTERNATIVE SPELLINGS, particularly when it's a language you don't understand) will find you  EDMUND OF THE HILL (Ned of the Hill)

Probably some of the others are here, too, or can be found with a little patience via Google.com -I spent a lot of time, as did several others, answering your last huge list of questions last year, and I think that you ought to be in a position to do most of the work yourself by now.

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 05:33 AM

Bonnie Woodhall has been posted recently. (use forum search, not Digitrad and Forum Search which doesn't work with recent additions, for this)

Michael Collins could be this song: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=13477

Look up 'Lagan Love' in the DT for 'Lagan flows softly (not probable, but worth a try)

Look here (http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=2405) for a possible hit to 'Belfast'

go here (http://www.wolfetonesofficialsite.com/lse.htm) for Lough sheelin eviction

here's (http://www.edgars-liederbuch.de/Lieder%20k/Kilnamartyra_Exile.htm) Kilnamartyra Exile.

I just stop looking at this moment, but I guess some of the others are also easily found.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Quincy
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 05:55 AM

Think the Belfast song might be the one that guest Billy J submitted on
this thread

regards, Yvonne


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Quincy
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 05:57 AM

It's after the "I'll tell me ma" lyrics!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 07:07 AM

http://www.prof.co.uk/irish/lyrics/buy_killarney.htm (How can you buy Killarney)

http://www.mysongbook.de/msb/songs/s/ssss.html (short cut through the fields)

http://www.uni-mainz.de/~cielp005/rebelsongs/sor97.htm (Ireland boys hurrah)

http://www.uni-mainz.de/~cielp005/rebelsongs/sor193.htm (Barry's column)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 02:59 PM

Donald MacGillavry - very Scottish Was published in a Ewan MacColl book of Scottish songs (Oak Publications)and its in the Digitrad


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,chrisj
Date: 18 Jun 01 - 10:21 PM

That's quite an eclectic list of songs. Items like 'How can you buy Killarney' could well have emanated from Tin Pan Alley but I guess they almost qualify as traditional now?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 12:32 AM

First of all I would like to apoligize to all of you that I completely exasperated with this list. However I would like it to be known that I DID do a pretty long search. If you think that this list is long you should have seen the one I started with. These songs are just the ones that I COULDN'T find. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but I did look.

Secondly, I would like to heartily thank everyone who contributed. I appreciate it. If ever I meet you, I owe you a round of beer.

Again thank you.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 04:27 AM

Rebecca,

most of us actually like finding songs. So come up with an updated (shorter?) list for there were some songs we were not sure if that was what you wanted. And if the titles are short (as, e.g., Belfast) and not good for a search, give us a couple of words you understand.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 02:27 PM

Thanks for the reassurance, Wolfgang. I was starting to think I'd done something wrong.

Here's a revised and expanded list. I realize that I didn't give everyone a lot of information to go on.

FAREWELL TO MY OWN NATIVE LAND - Sung by Margaret Barry. The first verse goes something like this: Farewell my own dear native land for here I cannot stay/For I do intend to cross the sea, all for Americay/To leave the land that gave me birth, it grieves my heart full sore/So fare thee well old Ireland, around the Shamrock Shore

MICHEAL COLLINS - Sung by Brian Moore. Chorus: Hang out your brightest colors/His memory now recall/O which one wants a part in it/No one wants it all

THE GUINNESS SONG - Sung by Margaret Barry. 1st verse: Come all you thirty tourists and travelers everywhere/'Til I sing to you a verse or two in a grand old Irish air/It's all about our famous stout that's known the world wide/And it's made for you, this lovely brew, down by the Liffey side.

MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY - This is NOT the same as "Lagan Love." Sung by Tara Folk. Chorus: My Lagan, she flows softly from sweet Cromb(?) down to the sea/Through Jemora(?) and Jemara(?) then close to Atale(?)/From Lisburn(?) down to Hilldin(?), Lambeggen(?) then Shore's Bridge/To Belfast's salty waters where her lonesome journey ends.

LOVELY ARMAGH - Sung by Pat Woods. 1st verse: O lovely Armagh, that place of renown/With its folklore, history, and cathederal town/How oft I have wandered 'til the set of the sun/Around its (?) and rivers from Armagh to Dunglun(?)

IRELAND BOYS HURRAH - Sung by Dermot O'Brien. 1st verse: Deep in Canadian woods we meet from one bright island home/(?) the land we tread but our hearts are with our own/And there we leave the shanty small(?) one (?) autumn day/We'll toast old Ireland, dear old Ireland, Ireland boys Hurrah/Ireland boys Hurrah, Ireland boys Hurrah/We'll toast old Ireland, dear old Ireland, Ireland boys Hurrah

EDWARD - Sung by the Old Blind Dogs. Sorry this isn't more help but I couldn't understand most of the words. 1st verse: Why does your (?) bleed, young Edward, young Edward/Why does your (?) bleed and why so sad, young (?)/Why does your (?) bleed, young Edward, young Edward/Why does your (?) bleed and why so sad, young (?)/I have killed my (?), my dear mother, my dear mother/I have killed my (?) and I hadn't (?)/I have killed my (?), my dear mother, my dear mother/I have killed my (?) and I hadn't (?)

SILE - Sung by Reeltime. Unfortunately I can't give verses because it's in Gaelic.

BONNIE JEAN CAMERON - This is NOT "Bonnie Jean Campbell." Sung by Kornog. 1st verse: O with all you had, O Bonnie Jean Cameron/O how she was sick and likely to die/But the only thing they could recomend her/O was (?) blink with a young pretender/And rare O rare, Bonnie Jean Cameron/Rare O rare , Bonnie Jean

TILL I SLEEP - Sung by Wolfstone. Chorus: I'll ride this horse into the wind, I'll take you with me when I go/My song is precious, can't you see? I'll sing it till I sleep/I fly with wings that soar above the lands that lies beneath me/The only thing I ever owned was living deep inside

WHEN THE KYE COME HAME - Sung by the Tannahill Weavers. Chorus: When the kye come hame, when the kye come hame/Between the blooming(?) and the (?) when the kye come hame

UNCLE DAN MCGANN - Sung by Mick Moloney. Chorus: Have you seen me Uncle Dan McGann, typical bit of a Galway man/He came out to the USA in the year of '61/Well if any of thou neighbors livin' here, seen or heard of him anywhere/You'd obilge me if you'd help me find me Uncle Dan McGann

KILLEATER FAIR - Sung by Leo McCaffrey. 1st verse: Attention, pay you country folk, a wee while if you please/I'll sing to you a verse or two to content you at me ease/It's all about a country maid, her equal wasn't there/And the first place that I met the girl was in Killeater Fair

SWEET MARIE - Sung by the same person. This is about a racing mare and not a girl. Chorus: Hold your (?), Sweet Marie, if you (?), Sweet Marie/You'll never win the Galway Pin for me/Every daisy in the dell aught to know me mighty well/For at every fence we fell, Sweet Marie

BIRTHDAY OF ST. PATRICK - Sung by the same person. 1st verse: On the 8th day of March, it was, some people say/That St. Patrick, at midnight, he first saw the day/While others declare it was the 9th he was born/But it was all a mistake between midnight and morn/Mistakes will occur with a horrible shock/While some blame the baby and some blame the clock/Till with all the crossed questions, sure no one could know/If the clock was too fast or the child was too slow

REBELS OF OUR LAND - 1st verse: Arise my friends, let us alude, the public (?) today/That all who fought in freedom's cause are truer hearts than they/In prison and internment camps, they lie our blood and men(?)/By traitors set, unconquered yet, those rebles of our land

HEART AND SOUL - Sung by Wolfstone. No, it is NOT the "Heart and Soul" that they used to use for the oatmeal commericals. 1st verse: It's in the rhyme of the dancer, in the standard flag unfurled/It's in the bride's eternal answer and every child across the world/Heart and soul, heart and soul/It's in the rhyme of the dancer

Well, I hope that that helped. Again I appreciate all that everyone has contributed to this thread. Thank you.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 02:29 PM

I guess I didn't make myself clear. The above list is of the songs that still need to be found. Sorry about that.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 07:51 PM

As I told you, Bonnie Jean Cameron is in the Forum.  Search for that title; the text given claims to be the one that Kornog used.

Song from the Backwoods  Written by T.D. Sullivan, found by searching for Deep in Canadian woods.  Always remember that you (or whoever posted here) may have the wrong title: search for keywords or part of the lyric.

When the Kye Comes Hame is at Lesley Nelson's site, as per my link above.  I have no idea if the Tannahills recorded it that way, but Lesley gives it the way James Hogg wrote it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 19 Jun 01 - 08:45 PM

Also in the Forum:  The Birth of St. Patrick  As I said, always try alternate spellings.

Google.com is a useful way of finding things.  For example:

MICHAEL COLLINS  (note spelling).

HEART AND SOUL

Till I Sleep appears to be available only through the International Lyric Server, which is now owned by the Harry Fox Agency: the site demands special access to your computer before allowing you to see the lyric, and I'm not prepared to allow that.  Perhaps the CD has lyrics if you were to buy it.  I believe that the lyrics for Sile (an awful lot of songs with that name in the title) are given on the sleevenotes that accompany Reeltime's record.  They probably won't be a lot of use to you if you don't understand Gaelic, mind.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 05:09 AM

http://ourworld-top.cs.com/tannahillweavers/Lyrics/1193lyr2.htm (when the kye come hame, Tannahill version)

http://www.uni-mainz.de/~cielp005/rebelsongs/sor91.htm (your Ireland boys hurrah, titled there: dear old Ireland) (I just see, Malcolm has linked to another version above under a third title)

Farewell my own dear native land is on the eponymous CD of the twenty CD series Voice of the people including lyrics. I have it at home, so if you wait a bit, you'll have that as well.

It's easier with more information.

Rebecca, it took me about one year to get good in doing searches and I still make mistakes.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: ard mhacha
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 06:32 AM

Hello Rebecca, From an old Irish grey-beard who has a large collection of Irish Music and Song, E-Mail me your address and I will send on most of those songs on Cassette. I dont mind as I have been doing this for years, I just love to promote Irish Music. So from the Emerald Isle,Slan agus Beannacht,[Health and Blessings]Oliver Burns.


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Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL, MY OWN DEAR NATIVE LAND
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 03:23 PM

I had to go to the dentist, so I looked in at the city library on the way back and borrowed Farewell, My Own Dear Native Land (Topic TSCD 654).  Here's the text as sung by Margaret Barry at Bill Leader's mother's house in Camden Town, mid-1968 :

FAREWELL, MY OWN DEAR NATIVE LAND

Farewell, my own dear native land, for here I cannot stay,
For I do intend to cross the sea bound for America.
To leave the land that gave me birth it grieves my heart full sore,
So fare thee well, old Ireland around the shamrock shore.

The ship she lies at anchor lee now ready for the sea.
May heaven send a vessel safe with sweet and pleasant gale,
And when I'm on the ocean wide you'll all be in my mind,
So fare thee well, old Ireland and all I left behind.

Farewell, my boys, her spars are spread; the wind is blowing fair.
Full steam to Castle Gardens! In a few days we'll be there.
It's hard to part with all I'd love that's in my heart, you know,
To leave that dear old Ireland around the shamrock shore.

The tears flow freely from my eyes, my heart suppressed with woe
To think I'd leave my native land, I am compelled to go.
To see my old aged mother and it fills her heart with woe
To leave that dear old Ireland around the shamrock shore.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: nutty
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 05:41 PM

I'm so pleased to know that the public library can still contribute effectively ..... may it always be so.


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Subject: Lyr Add: FLIGHT OF EARLS (Liam Reilly)
From: Angie
Date: 20 Jun 01 - 06:24 PM

ok don't know how to do the funny wee link thingy so i'll have to type the words...sorry it's gonny be quite long

FLIGHT OF EARLS
I can hear the bells of Dublin
In this lonely waiting room
And the paperboys are waiting in he rain
Not too long before they take us
to the airport and the noise
to get onboard a trans Atlantic plane

We’ve got nothing left to stay for
We have no more left to say
And there isn't any work for us to do
So farewell you boys and girls
Another bloody flight of earls
Our best asset is our best export too

It’s not murder fear or famine
That makes us leave this time
We’re not going to join McAlpine’s fusiliers
We’ve got brains and we've got vision
We’ve got education too
But we just can't throw away these precious years
So we walk the streets of London
And the streets of Baltimore
And we meet at night in several Boston bars
We’re the leaders of the future
But we're far away from home
And we dream of you beneath the Irish stars

As we look on Ellis Island and the lady in the bay
And Manhattan turns to face another Sunday
We just wonder what you’re doing
For to bring us all back home
As we look forward to another Monday
Because it's not the work that scares us
We don't mind an honest job
And we know things will get better once again
So a thousand times adieu
We’ve got bono and u2
And all we're missing is the Guinness and the rain

So switch off our new computers
‘Cause the writings on the wall
We’re leaving as our fathers did before
Take a look at Dublin airport
Or the boat that leaves Northwall
There’ll be no youth unemployment anymore
Because we're over here in Queensland
And in parts of New South Wales
We’re on the seas and airways and the trains
And if we see better days
Those big airplanes go both ways
And we’ll all be coming home to you again


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 02:31 AM

Thank you, everyone. You've come through just like I knew you would.

Malcolm, I'm sorry if this list has exasperated you. I'm trying. Despite that, thank you for the help. However I still can't find "Bonnie Jean Cameron" even after I did exactly what you told me to.

Oliver Burns, bless your heart. Thank you for your generousity.

I'm actually leaving Friday to go on staff at a summer camp. That's why I rolled all my requests in one long list. I take my music wherever I go.

Again, thank you every one.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 02:35 AM

Oliver, PM me if you want my address. Plus my e-mail is isaiah64_3@yahoo.com.

I definately appreciate the offer.

God bless, Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 02:37 AM

Ok, here's another revised list.

GUINNESS SONG

MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY

LOVELY ARMAGH

EDWARD

SILE

BONNIE JEAN CAMERON

TILL I SLEEP

UNCLE DAN MCGANN

KILLEATER FAIR

SWEET MARIE

REBELS OF OUR LAND

Again thank you for your help. I'm trying on my end too.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Brakn
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 04:26 AM

I have these two - Killeter Fair and Sweet Marie. Will get them to you when I can.

Is Edward - Edward On Lough Erne's Shore?


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Subject: Lyr Add: KILLETER FAIR
From: Brakn
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 05:11 AM

Apologies - the Sweet Marie I have is not the one you want. Also your Edward is not "Edward On Lough Erne's Shore?" I have this one though.

Killeter Fair

Attention honest country folk
A wee while, if you please
I'll sing for you a verse or two
To amuse you at your ease
It's all about a handsome girl
To find her equal would be rare
And the first place that I met her
Was at Killeter Fair

Her eyes did shine like diamonds
Her cheeks bloomed like the rose
She is my first and only love
No matter where she goes
She completely stole my heart, my boys
The truth I now declare
And the first place that I met her
Was at Killeter Fair

But now we have got married
And we're happy as you know
We're always light-hearted
Let it either freeze pr snow
And sitting by the fireside
She laughs quite heartily there
"The first place that I met you
Was at Killeter Fair"

We're blessed with a family
Two girls and a boy
They are the sunshine of our home
Our heart's delight and joy
And little John, the youngest
Laughs when sitting in his chair
Saying "The first place that you met my ma
Was at Killeter Fair


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 05:20 AM

Malcolm, you saved me the typing, thanks.

Rebecca, Bonnie Jean Cameron (I did nothing else than follow Malcolm's instrucions above)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 05:55 AM

I don't really know "My Lagan flows softly", but I can correct the placenames:

"MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY - This is NOT the same as "Lagan Love." Sung by Tara Folk.
Chorus: My Lagan, she flows softly from Slieve Croob down to the sea
Through Dromore and Dromara then close to Aghalee
From Lisburn down to Hilden, Lambeg then Shaw's Bridge
To Belfast's salty waters where her lonesome journey ends."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 06:44 AM

Edward is Professor Child's number #13; two versions may be found in the DT:

EDWARD  Set with tune; adapted by Burl Ives from a traditional version noted by Cecil Sharp in Appalachia.
EDWARD BALLAD  With tune; noted by Helen H. Flanders from George Edwards of Burlington, VT.

Neither of these is the set recorded by The Old Blind Dogs.  That particular text, so far as I can tell from the bits Rebecca quoted, are not to be found on the net: it is, I think, given in the sleevenotes to their CD, so anybody round here who has it might like to chip in.  It would be interesting to know where they got it.  Meanwhile, here are references to some traditional examples available (as usual, I include only stable sites which quote their sources properly):

At Lesley Nelson's  Folk Music of England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and America:

Edward  Set with tune; adapted by Burl Ives from a traditional version noted by Cecil Sharp in Appalachia.

Edward  Versions A-C from the English and Scottish Popular Ballads. (Texts only).

Edward  7 versions found by Cecil Sharp in the Southern Appalachians. (Texts only).

The Murdered Brother  Text and tune of a variant noted by John Jacob Niles in Saluda, North Carolina, 1934 (perhaps).

There is an entry at the  Traditional Ballad Index:

Edward [Child 13]

Three sets from America are available at the  Max Hunter Folk Song Collection:

Edward  As sung by May Kennedy-McCord in Springfield, Missouri on September 23, 1958.

How Come That Blood On Your Coat Sleeve  As sung by Mr. Clyde Johnson in Fayettville, Arkansas on October 1, 1958.

What Is That Blood On Your Coat Sleeve  As sung by Mr. C. W. Ingenthron in Walnut Shade, Missouri on November 19, 1958.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 04:00 PM

Celtic Bard
Farewell My Own Dear Native Land , sung by Margaret Barry, is on Disk 4 of the series Voices of the People. (TSCD654)The lyrics are included.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 04:10 PM

Again, thank you.

Here's another revised list

GUINNESS SONG

MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY

LOVELY ARMAGH

SILE

TILL I SLEEP

UNCLE DAN MCGANN

SWEET MARIE

REBELS OF OUR LAND

Again, thank you very much for your effort.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 21 Jun 01 - 04:30 PM

I can't seem to locate any of them either. Have you tried :

Prof's Irish Lyrics


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 22 Jun 01 - 03:35 AM

Yeah, George, I tried that and found a couple but not the 8 remaining on the list. I might just have to transcribe them from the CD.

I'm actually leaving for summer camp as staff tomorrow so I won't be able to contribute further to this thread. But I would definately like to commend the efforts and successes of all who have contributed. Thank you.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: ard mhacha
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 01:09 PM

Hello Rebecca, Sorry I tried your e-mail address but I had it returned, use mine and see if you fare better. oliver@freecrow.freeserve.co.uk I will seek out as many of the requested tunes as I can find and send them off. Please leave your postal address. Slan agus Beannacht[Health and Blessings] Oliver Burns,


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,cleod
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 07:33 AM

I KNOW i have the CD at home with Leo McCaffrey singing both Killeater Fair and Sweet Marie...will type the lyrics to Sweet Marie when I can.

slan/ cleod


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: ard mhacha
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 07:04 AM

Hello All, any information on irish tenor Jack Daly 1930`s -1940`s, Record or CD info, Slan Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: IanC
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 07:27 AM

Ard

Probably better to start a new thread with such an enquiry.

If you're looking for Jackie Daly, then a search for DALY in TradSoc brought up this.

Hope it might be of use.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: IanC
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 07:30 AM

OmiGawd!

Didn't quite work out as I expected. Here's TradSoc. Try yourself!

Cheers!


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Subject: Lyr Add: SWEET MARIE (Percy French)
From: Aidan Crossey
Date: 29 Jun 01 - 07:41 AM

Here are thge lyrics I have for Sweet Marie. Taken from the eponymous 1993 album by "A Properly Regulated Society" (Croghan Records). I can't vouch for whether the lyrics are as French wrote them. So if any scholars wish to take issue, please feel free. The air is the same as that used for Maggie Mae (the Liverpudlian street song ... not the Rod Stewart number).

SWEET MARIE
by Percy French

I've a little racing mare called Sweet Marie
And the temper of a bear has Sweet Marie
But I backed this mare to win
And on her I'll have me tin
So we'll take a trial spin Sweet Marie

Chorus
Hold your ground Sweet Marie
Don't go down Sweet Marie
Or you'll never win the Galway Plate for me
Every daisy in the dell
Ought to know me bloody well
For at every fence she fell Sweet Marie

Oh the colours that I chose for Sweet Marie
They were lavender and rose for Sweet Marie
Ah but now no thanks to you
Sure I'm quite another hue
For I'm only black and blue Sweet Marie

Chorus

Now we've started for the cup me Sweet Marie
Its weight for age and owners up me Sweet Marie
Owners up is how I'm bound
But the way you're waltzin' round
Twill soon be owners down Sweet Marie

Chorus


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Subject: Lyr Add: SÍLE
From: Brían
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 01:21 AM

Here's another:

SÍLE

Bheadh buachaillín deas ag Síle dá bpósfadh sí mar fhear
Mharóinn an breac ar an taoide is coinín ar an ndumhaigh chomh maith
Ní iarrfainn léi capall ná caoire, airgead buí ná geal
Mar go mb'fhearr liomsa agam mar mhnaoí í ná aon iníon rí dar mhair

Tá máithair gan taise ag Síle, is ní bhraitheann sí a croí rómhaith
Tá sparán mór fada aici líonta ag lorg talamh gan cíos le fear
Chuma léi ard é nó íseal, ba chuma léi buí nó geal
Ó ba chuma léi cam nó díreach ach bheith aige caoie is ba

Ní mar sin mar mheasann mo Shíle, b'fhearr léi mise ná míle fear
Mar is meidhreach is ea sheinnfinn ar phíob dí,
Is is greanta do rincfinn dreas
Chuirfinnse i dtalamh na síolta is bhainfinn arís thar n-ais
Nuair thiocfainnse abhaile ní bhruíonfainn
ach reacaireacht grinn lem shearc

Tá mo mhargadh socair le Síle, is ní bhrisfeadh Éire ar fad
Gan spleáchas dá máthair ná muintir, rachaidh sí chun cinn gan stad
Pósfam sa chathair an mhí seo is an sagart a dhíol go maith
Is ní dóichí go bhfanfam sa tír seo, ach ag reachtaireacht síos amach

I could do a rough translation if you need one.
There is another version of FAREWELL, MY OWN DEAR NATIVE LAND in the book IRISH EMIGRANT BALLADS AND SONGS edited by Robert L. Wright titled THE SHAMROCK SHORE.

Slán go fóill,
Brían.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 05:00 PM

I found a web-page for Percy French.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,Annraoi
Date: 30 Jun 01 - 10:09 PM

Killeter Fair, composed and performed to the plaudits of the multitudes at many's the rabble in West Tyrone and East Donegal by the one-legged and one-eyed fiddler "Patchy Kelly"
Annraoi


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:59 PM

Here's Eamonn an Chnoic, with a slightly iffy translation - surely fever in his voice, not an edge on his voice...


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Subject: Lyr Add: UNCLE DAN MCCANN
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 09:06 PM

Uncle Dan McCann

Well I lately wandered over here to look for my Uncle Dan,
He left the town of Galway in the year of '51,
Where he got to I don't know
I've searched this country high and low,
But back to Galway I can't go, without my Uncle Dan.

Chorus: So have you seen my Uncle Dan?
Typical bit of a Galwayman,
Came out to the USA in the year of '51.
If any of you neighbours living here
Have seen or heard of him anywhere,
You'd oblige me if you'd help me find
My Uncle Dan McCann.

Well let me tell you about my Uncle Dan
He thought he was a mighty man,
Swam the River Liffey twice a day
He could run three laps of Phoenix Park, and dance and sing just like a lark,
And he wasn't afraid to go home in the dark,
My Uncle Dan McCann.

So have you sen my Uncle Dan McCann?
Typical bit of a Galwayman,
Fought throughout the Civil War in the year of '61.
He was supple and nimble in every joint,
He wasn't afraid of the bayonet point,
He belonged to the right in '69,
My Uncle Dan McCann.

Chorus
Well I found my Uncle Dan McCann,
Very good for a shantyman,
He has a seat in Congress, and the saviour of his clan.
He helps to write America's laws,
But his heart and soul is in Ireland's cause,
God help the man who opens his jaws
To my Uncle Dan McCann.

Chorus

This is a transcription from the singing of Ken Hall, featured on the splendid CD as close as can be on Fellside FECD155. He says that he learned this "seemingly slight song" from the Napoleon of Irish song, Frank Harte, and that it is "starting point for anybody interested in the fascinating story of the Irish in America."
I would be intrigued to learn how old the song actually is. In spite of the dates given in the song, I would guess it to be of much more recent origin.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: GUEST,dreoilin
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 11:58 AM

The lyrics to " The Kilnamartyra Exile" are to be found on Niamh Parsons' CD Blackbirds and Thrushes .A wonderful song!! The tune is the Irish air called Cath Chéim an Fhia , which is also a fine Gaelic song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 02:15 PM

Looks like Rebecca is down to these

GUINNESS SONG
 
MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY
 
LOVELY ARMAGH
 
TILL I SLEEP
 
REBELS OF OUR LAND


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Subject: Lyr Add: TWO HUNDRED YEARS A-BREWING
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 08:15 PM

Re: "Guinness Song".I knew I'd heard this song somewhere,and even owned a recording of it.I finally tracked it down; its on the Topic Voice of The People series that Malcolm mentioned earlier, in Volume 13 They ordered their pints of beer & bottles of sherry :The joys & curse of drink under a different title:

Two Hundred years A-Brewing

Come all you thirsty tourists and travellers everywhere,
Till I sing to you a verse or two in a grand old Irish air.
It's all about our famous stout that's known the world wide,
And it's made for you this lovely brew down by the Liffeyside.

If you want to see our grand brewery at the top of James's Street-
Don't make a fuss - just take a bus or travel on your feet.
That well known site is on the right; at the door there stands a guide,
Who will point out to you where the stout is made down by the Liffeyside.

Our barges neat nigh Watling Street rock gently to and fro'
With winch and sling the barrels swing into the hatch below.
With hold and decks full of double X they sail down with the tide.
All specially made for the foreign trade down by the Liffeyside.

And if you stray Glasneven (sic)when some old friend is dead,
The mourners stand with hat in hand as the funeral prayers were said.
The graves are filled. The tears they spill; their eyes they quickly dry
With a pint or two in the old Brien Boru down by the Liffeyside.

Come fill your glasses to the brim and drink a toast with me
To the noble house of Guinness's and their world famed brewery.
We Irishmen are proud of them, their products true and tried.
Long may they live and employment give down by the Liffeyside.


This is a recording of a performance by Margaret Barry, accompanying herself on banjo, with Michael Gorman on fiddle, which was broadcast on WFMT radio in Chicago on 9 October 1961. Reg Hall's notes state that it is a modern composition (probably by that well-known Dublin character An O'Nymous). He adds that "part of her act involved implying that she was a heavy drinker (which she wasn't!). Guinness's supplied her with a few bottles of porter to take on stage each night..."
BTW Does anyone know if is true that Guinness refused to include in their Book of Records the world record for nuber of trips round their brewery completed in one day?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 08:29 PM

In my earlier post I should, of course, have credited Reg Hall and Topic for providing the text of the song in the superb and standard-setting notes to the VOTP series of CDs. I have simply copied the text given except that the 1st line of verse 4 should read "And if you stray Glasneven way..." Could Joe or some other kind soul please correct?
The CD reference is TSCD 663.Go and buy it there are lots of lovely songs and tunes on it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 10 Sep 01 - 01:24 AM

Hello again! Yes, I'm finally back from summer camp staff.

First of all, a big thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread and to everyone for having patience with me. I appreciate it.

As of right now I haven't read the whole thing because I just got home an hour ago after a 5 hour drive so excuse me if I'm a bit distracted or if I ramble. I'll make sure I read it tomorrow. However I'm sure that you guys were a tremendous help.

Well, I better go or I'll fall asleep at the computer.

Thank you all!

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 12 Sep 01 - 11:10 PM

Well, I hope you had a good time, Rebecca.

Now remember, to make it easier, post separate messages for each song with the title in the Subject. Makes it easier. I kind of forgot all about this thread.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 23 Sep 01 - 06:59 PM

Hello again. Sorry that it took me a while to get back. Between unpacking and starting school I've been a little short on time.

I've read the whole thread and printed off the songs that have been posted there. Again thank you very much!

There are still four songs missing. They are:

MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY

LOVELY ARMAGH

TILL I SLEEP

REBELS OF OUR LAND

This summer I sat down and transcribed them from the CD. However some still have holes in them where I simply can't understand them. Plus I don't have them in front of me right now. Once I find them I'll post it.

George, I usually DO post my requests one at a time but I was hoping to get all the songs together so that I could finish my songbook over the summer. That was a joke! I worked on it all summer and I'm still not done with it. Soon hopefully.

Anyway. Again a big thank you to everyone who contributed.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Sep 01 - 07:27 PM

Rebecca, it'll never be finished. My book is still on the go.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Sep 01 - 07:31 PM

Rebecca, why don't you post separate requests for those four. I haven't found them online, but perhaps if you posted some of the lyrics to each, it might help as well.


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY; LOVELY ARMAGH; etc
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 26 Dec 01 - 04:25 PM

Okay, I know, I know. I've spent forever getting back here but I finally did.

Here are the words of the four songs that I still haven't found as I heard them on the CDs. Hopefully that will jog someone memory.

Again, thank you everyone for your help and patience.

MY LAGAN FLOWS SOFTLY

Early in the morning, the sun begins to rise
Reflected on her waters, the movement of the skies
As slowly she moves onward, the (?) I cannot see
Through fields and lonely meadows past the local industries

Chorus: My Lagan she flows softly from sweet Crombe down to the sea
Through Jamora(?) and Jamara(?), then close to Atalee(?)
From Lisburn(?) down to Hilldon(?), Lambegine(?) then Shore's Bridge
To Belfast's salty waters where her lonesome journey ends

The years passed slowly onward and changes soon unfold
There's no more horses pullin' the barges filled with coal
The old lock gates are rotted and pathways are overgrown
But still I love to see her as slowly she grows old

Chorus

Memories, they are precious and they're soon brought to life
As you walk along the tow path in the evening's fading light
For even now the nightlife begins a brand new day
Some ripples on the surface and the trout moves on her way

Chorus

LOVELY ARMAGH

O Lovely Armagh, that place of renown
With its folklore, history, and cathedral town
How oft I have wandered 'til the set of the sun
'Round it's droarings and rivers from Armagh to Dunglun(?)

There's gree park in Millford and Ballyarts(?) too
Old Castle Dramore and Kerry in view(?)
To the folk all so charming, all the best I declare
What I wouldn't give one more to be there

The sweet summer days and the flowers all in bloom
And the night all illumine with a silvery moon
To dance in th road to a sweet Irish air
Makes me feel how I wish I were there

In fancy I stroll by the Callin(?) once more
To see neat little homesteads and the folk 'round the door
In the spring, I'll be there, I'll come over the sea
Back again with my old friends, how happy we'll be

For when you're over and no friends like me
Away far from home, away over the sea
I pray my wish will be granted and I will come home
And never again will I ever more roam

TILL I SLEEP

I'll walk this way until I sleep, climb this road until I die
Take you with me if you'll go, it's keeping me alive
I'll talk to those who'd put me down, listen without prejudice
The only thing I ever owned was living deep inside

Chorus: I'll ride this horse into the wind, I'll take you with me when I go
My song is precious, can't you see? I'll sing it 'til I sleep
I'd fly with wings that soar above the land that lies beneath me
The only thing I ever owned was living deep inside

I'd walk through hills of Landsford Low, bend the world to meet and I
I'd rather see you stay than go but now we must decide
I'll ride the surf on board this ship, takes me o'er the foaming sea
Unites me with my family and those that I'd caress

Chorus

So 'til I sleep I'll carry on, 'til I die I'll run along
These lines I've drew myself are gone, you know it's only right
When my senses have all gone when myself, I am alone
I'll count my blessings one by one and then I'll say good-bye

Chorus

REBELS OF OUR LAND

Arise, my friends, let us aloo
To public inns today
That all who fought in freedom's cause
No truer hearts than they
In prison and internment camps
They lie, our blood and band
By traitors set, unconquered yet
Those rebels of our land

From Antrim's glens to Shannon's side
From Cork to Donegal
Some on the curse
d border died
At Mother Ireland's call
From Tarren glen those gallant men
Our inspiration stand
A greater (?) shall ne'er defend
Those rebels of our land

From Wexford town and Armagh down
From Monagh and Lough
Speed (?) waters, (?) and pile
Like Monas O'Hannon's (?)
Though cold in death, in memory yet
United we all stand
But grant them rest, their names are blessed
Those rebels of our land

Well that's it. Hope that helps.

Thank you.

Rebecca
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 06:48 PM

I hope that these words help.

Thanks for your help.

Rebecca <><


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 01 Jan 02 - 08:05 PM

hi Rebecca. I sent to an Irish friend of mine, Kevin Evans of the Evans and Doherty group. He's from Ireland, works in the music industry, and knows tons of songs. Unfortunately, he and his partner Brian Doherty own an Irish Pub, and have been busy with performing and with getting the pub ready for last night. Hopefully, things will quieten down and he can look them over to let us know.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: Wolfgang
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 06:42 AM

'My Lagan softly flowing' is on this site with Lagan poems. You'll have to scroll a bit. I can't copy and paste from that site without making a mess.

Wolfgang


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Subject: Lyr Add: MY LAGAN SOFTLY FLOWING (Noel McMaster)
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 03 Jan 02 - 10:57 AM

Here you go (just add a little HTML (
and

to the ends of lines): My Lagan Softly Flowing

`My Lagan Softly Flowing' is a new song, the words and music having been written by Noel McMaster. Noel grew up not far from the Lagan and spent many happy boyhood hours playing, fishing or just daydreaming along its banks. The result is a pleasant song with an instant appeal, tracing as it does the journey of the river, first through pleasing Ulster countryside and then through the industrial area beyond Lisburn before mingling at last with the salty waters of Belfast Lough. (Any slight inaccuracies may be excused on the grounds of poetic licence!)

1. Early in the morning the sun begins to rise,
Reflected on her waters, the movement of the skies.
Slowly she flows onward, disturbed I cannot see,
Through fields and rolling meadows past local industries.

Chorus
My Lagan she flows softly from Slieve Croob down to the sea,
Through Dromore and Dromara, then close to Aghalee.
From Lisburn down to Hilden, Lambeg and then Shaw's Bridge,
To Belfast's salty waters where her lonesome journey ends.

2. The years pass slowly onward changes soon unfold,
No more horses pulling the barges filled with coal.
The old lock-gates have rotted, the pathway's overgrown,
But still I love to her see as slowly she grows old.

3. Oh memories they are precious, and they are brought to life
As you walk along the towpath in the evening's fading light.
But even now, the night life begins a brand new day,
Some ripples on the surface and a trout moves on her way.

4.Young lovers they walk slowly, beside my Lagan stream,
Holding hands and talking about their wildest dreams.
Across the water, laughter comes drifting through the night,
Dancing shadows ripple in the moonshine light.

5. Oh early in the morning, the sun begins to rise,
Reflected on her waters, the movement of the skies.
Slowly she flows onward, disturbed I cannot see,
Through fields and rolling meadows, past local industries.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Seeking Irish Lyrics II
From: The Celtic Bard
Date: 04 Jan 02 - 03:42 PM

Thanks a lot, George and Wolfgang! That was a great help.

Rebecca <><


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