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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,Brian Grayson Date: 01 Nov 12 - 08:52 AM 'Whose pigs are these? Whose pigs are these? They are John Potts' I can tell them by their spots And I found them in the vicarage garden' Sung to the 'Hallelujah Chorus' and/or as a round, in folk clubs in my time in England (the 70s). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 01 Nov 12 - 06:54 AM I wonder if Robert Frost had this in mind when he wrote "Stopping by woods": Whose woods these are I think I know.... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Richard Bridge Date: 01 Nov 12 - 04:23 AM Mayeb we should adapt it fot the conservative government. "Who are these pigs?" |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Mark Ross Date: 31 Oct 12 - 09:02 PM Whose pigs are these I think I know, His home is in the village though.... No, it wasn't Robert Frost. Mark Ross |
Subject: Lyr Add: WHOSE THREE HOGGS ARE THESE? From: Jim Dixon Date: 31 Oct 12 - 07:17 PM From Merry Songs and Ballads: Prior to the Year A.D. 1800, Volume 3 edited by John Stephen Farmer (Privately printed for subscribers only, 1897), page 278: "WHOSE THREE HOGGS ARE THESE?" [c. 1770] [A Broadside Catch with music] Whose three Hoggs are these, and whose three Hoggs are these? They are John Cook's, I know by their looks, For I found them in my Pease. Oh Pound them, oh Pound them, but I dare not for my Life, For if I shou'd Pound John Cook's Hoggs I should never kiss John Cook's wife. CHORUS But as for John Cook's Wife, I'll say no more than mum: Then, here's to thee, thou first Hogg, until the Second come. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Jim Dixon Date: 31 Oct 12 - 06:48 PM It seems to be in The Oxford Book of Nursery Rhymes, page 350. Maybe that book has information about its origin. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,Peter Barnard Date: 31 Oct 12 - 04:52 PM How far back does this song go? What evidence does anyone have? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Mo the caller Date: 27 Jan 12 - 07:09 AM The tune that I remember hearing on radoi 2's Folk on Whichever-day-it-was-then,fitted the Tom Pott's in the vicarage garden words, but not so well to the peas/pound words above. Maybe there were 2 tunes |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: motleyjust Date: 26 Jan 12 - 10:07 PM Where can I find the tune to this, please? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,guest Date: 07 Jul 10 - 05:15 PM Kitty, Further to MDKP, it was 1977, Jubilee year, and St Georges Day I think, Mike was the Turkish Knight, and floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee - unique phrase in English Mummerry I think. Doughnut |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: pavane Date: 26 Mar 10 - 05:43 AM Took a long time! But interesting. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Jim Dixon Date: 25 Mar 10 - 09:38 PM From Notes and Queries, Series 4, Vol. 4, December 25, 1869, page 575: OLD SAYINGS (4th S. iv. 499, &c.)—Of the old saying mentioned by J. W. H., I have frequently heard one repeated (with a slight difference and an additional verse) by an old lady still living in south-east Cornwall. The version was as follows:— "'Whose little pigs are these, these, these, And whose little pigs are these?' 'They're Johnny Cook's, I know by their looks, And I found them among the peas.' 'Gо pound them, go pound them.' 'I dare not for my life; For, though I don't love Johnny Cook, I dearly love his wife.'" Wm. Pengelly. Torquay. Your correspondent J. W. H. (see "N. & Q." p. 500) may like to know that the old song about John Cook's pigs, part of which his grandfather used to repeat, was current in Sussex as well as in Yorkshire. My mother used to sing it to my children when they were infants more than forty years ago. I know the tune quite well; I consider the song as a duet, and subjoin a version of the words as I have heard them sung by my mother— 1st voice. "Whose three pigs are these? Whose three pigs are these? 2nd voice. They are John Cook's, I know by their looks, And I found them in the peas. 1st voice. Go pound them! Go pound them! 2nd voice. I dare not for my life; For he that poundeth John Cook's pigs Must never kiss his wife." M. P. M. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: JeffB Date: 16 Mar 10 - 12:56 PM Just come across this, undated :- "Whose pigs are these, these, these? Whose pigs are these?" "They are Roger the Cook's, I know them by their looks, I found them among my peas." "Go pound them, go pound them." "I dare not on my life, for though I love not Roger the Cook I dearly love his wife." |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: GUEST,Betsy Date: 14 Mar 10 - 09:08 PM I shall always asccociate his somg with Mick Hayward and Redcar Festival. Having been asked to follow Hedgehog Pie at a singaroung - a very difficult task it will always be memorable. I think the (pigs) owners name was John Blott but could be wrong. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Smokey. Date: 14 Mar 10 - 07:37 PM John Tams sang it as "Whose tups are these?" in the National Theatre's production of the York Mystery plays. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Herga Kitty Date: 14 Mar 10 - 03:49 PM The last time I remember seeing Mike was when he introduced me to Laurie Lee outside Gloucester cathedral during the Boxing Day mummers' tour in the late 1970s - it would have been between 1977 and 1979, I think! Kitty |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: RTim Date: 14 Mar 10 - 03:14 PM I don't think I have seen Mike Price since the first Adderbury Day of Dance (Revival) in 1975!! Tim Radford |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Les in Chorlton Date: 14 Mar 10 - 02:51 PM I suspect it has been alive and well in Cubbing, Browning (?), Scouting, Guiding for a long time. I think I first sang it inthe Scouts before 1959 L in C |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Herga Kitty Date: 14 Mar 10 - 02:28 PM It's the first song in "Songs, Stories and a Mummers' Play from Gloucestershire" compiled by Mike Price (Michael David Keane Price)with a foreword by Dave Stephenson of the Songwainers and published by W L Langsbury in 1972, price 30p. I have an autographed (and dedicated with best wishes)copy. Mike's intro says that the book contains the songs of Harry Buckland, collected from him before his death. But the note for "Whose Pigs are these?" says " A round from the Slad valley, referring to the Gloucester Odd-spot breed of pig. I collected this myself, in 1967, from the singing of an old lady, whom I first met, aged nine, whilst wandering around aimlessly, during a Wolf cub map-reading test. She came across me, tearful, foot-sore and hopelessly lost. Before setting me on the right road, she refreshed me with goat's milk and biscuits. This encounter was to prove the start of a very valuable friendship, which has lasted over twenty years." Because Mike included it as a round, the version in his book has only the John Pott's verse, as sung by the Songwainers. Kitty |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: RTim Date: 14 Mar 10 - 11:17 AM Found by ?Mike Price? of Gloucestershire and sung by The Songwainers. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane Date: 21 Jun 01 - 07:51 AM Now all we need is the tune! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane Date: 21 Jun 01 - 07:20 AM Oh Hell I managed to mistype the subject - is it possible to fix it? |
Subject: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane Date: 21 Jun 01 - 07:19 AM ^^ WHOSE PIGS ARE THESE (anon)
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