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Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van DigiTrad: THE SMASHING OF THE VAN Related thread: Lyr Req: The Smashing of the Van (12) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,MaryAnn McCarra-Fitzpatrick Date: 26 Oct 11 - 05:39 PM This is off-topic, but I wonder where one would find a listing of the names of the men involved in this incident? MaryAnn McCarra mccarrafitz@hotmail.com |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Jim Dixon Date: 28 Oct 11 - 03:04 PM The incident took place 4 May 1921. The man they were trying to rescue was Frank Carty. (See Wikipedia.) The priest involved was Father McRory (not McGroray). I don't know what to make of "Mack Jay" and "Sandy Man." There was a book written about the incident: Coyle, Stephen (2008). "High Noon on High Street: The Story of a Daring Ambush by the IRA in Glasgow in 1921". ISBN 9781873586440. From http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSA05246: An 18th century Bailie confronts a poster with 20th century news, in this cartoon published in The Bailie in 1921. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,Lynne Lees Date: 12 Aug 12 - 12:53 PM Could you please tell me if a Cornelius Oconnell was involved ? He was my Grandfather and we have always believed that he was,,,, thanks |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,Stephen McGuire Date: 13 Apr 13 - 05:22 PM Father Patrick McRory was my great-grandfather, when the arrested him he was badly treated in jail and starved and when he was realeased he died as a result. Don't think anybody knows that bit of the story.. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,Stephen McGuire Date: 13 Apr 13 - 05:25 PM Father Patrick McRory was my great-grandfather, when the arrested him he was badly treated in jail and starved and when he was realeased he died as a result. Don't think anybody knows that bit of the story.. If anyone has any questions about the story (I can see from below) contact me at: stephenmcguire1@hotmail.co.uk |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST Date: 13 Apr 13 - 05:49 PM *not my great-grandfather, my great-grandad's brother. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST Date: 11 Jul 14 - 04:46 AM The courtroom it was crowded we were not allowed to speak There were murmurs of disapproval as the judge he took his seat defended by those councillors Mcgee and sandyman The verdict was not guilty at the smashing of the van |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Gutcher Date: 11 Jul 14 - 01:41 PM Jim Sandieman is an old name in Scotland---an old established wine firm in Perth bears the name and if my memory serves a lady of that family had a hit song in the popular music scene. The names Mcgee and Sandyman [Sandieman] can of course be checked out in the list of Glasgow Councillors for the date mentioned. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Gallus Moll Date: 11 Jul 14 - 07:13 PM Sandeman |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Gutcher Date: 12 Jul 14 - 01:59 AM Put it down to old age G.M. I should have known better having done work for Ms. Sandeman when she was still married to her ex husband, the doctor. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Jim McLean Date: 12 Jul 14 - 01:41 PM SANDEMAN, port and sherry house with one of the most famous logos in the wine trade, the black Sandeman Don. It was founded in London by a Scotsman, George Sandeman, who in 1790 established his shipping business with a £300 loan from his father. I see the thread was opened by my old friend Big Tim who is no longer with us. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,S.Fullerton Date: 10 Mar 17 - 05:22 PM Just found this page this evening.My father was James Fullerton and my uncle William Fullerton i have the newspaperDaily Sketch where a photo of my father released on Mon.29th August 1921 with a group of friends there to greet him.i also saw the bullet hole in the brick of Duke st .prison when i trained in the Royal Infirmary close by.my father died in Dublin in 1987. great to read all your memories S.F. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Jack Campin Date: 10 Mar 17 - 06:34 PM Wow. There can't be many people around who even remember Duke Street Prison, let alone have that sort of connection to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Street_Prison I used to live in Dennistoun (late 80s/early 90s) so I knew where it had been. Being called William Fullerton would have been a bit of a liability for an Irish Republican - I presume no relation... Billy Fullerton |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: Gallus Moll Date: 11 Mar 17 - 07:03 PM oops haven't looked at this thread for ages - -- re Sandeman, I know an excellent musician (fiddle/violin and accordion both folk and classical)originally from Killearn who is a Sandeman----last time I was in contact he was a scientist in Cambridge but still playing music, in a ceilidh/country dance band and also classical gigs. Re Duke Street Jail (womens' prison?) - There is a happy land Down in Duke Street Jail Where all the prisoners stand Tied tae a nail Ham an' eggs they never see, Dirty water fer therr tea There they live in miseree (God save the queen? -- canny mind the last line!? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,S.Fullerton Date: 12 Mar 17 - 10:54 AM I was born in Dennistoun in my grandmother s house 40Kilberry st.She was mother of James and Willie Fullerton. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,Peter Dornan Date: 02 Dec 19 - 02:53 AM Vincent Campbell was my Great Uncle, he stayed in Abercrombie Street along with his cousins Patrick and Jane Campbell and they were all arrested for the incident. Here is a link to the song you are looking for https://www.itma.ie/digital-library/sound/smashing_of_the_van_maggie_magee |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Smashing of the GLASGOW van From: GUEST,Starship Date: 02 Dec 19 - 02:22 PM Here it is on YouTube. If it's been posted already, sorry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCiHLzB2kOo |
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