Subject: Aran / Arran boat song From: Alison Date: 28 Dec 97 - 07:52 PM Hi Heard a band play this beautful tune the other night, they said it was Scottish, (so probably the "Arran" spelling.) Has anyone got the music? Or are there lyrics? Slainte Alison |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Alice Date: 29 Dec 97 - 05:39 PM Alison, we play this song in the weekly group I attend. I thought it was so beautiful, I wrote a couple of verses so that I could sing it. I couldn't find traditional lyrics. If anyone has them, I would be interested in seeing older lyrics. Alice in Montana |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 29 Dec 97 - 06:15 PM I think it's Arran, as in Inch Arran. |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: alison Date: 30 Dec 97 - 06:18 AM Hi, Looked it up on a map, it is Arran, (Aran is off the West coast of Ireland), off the West coast of Scotland, a couple of islands south of the Mull of Kintyre.... I feel a song coming on............. Come on Alice, let's see your words, and have you any way of forwarding a tune? Slainte Alison |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Timothy Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 30 Dec 97 - 10:04 PM I thought so. There is a part of my home town named Inch Arran, so named by an early settler who came from that island. The area in question is not an island, but the view of the sea reminded him of his old home and he so named it. |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Timothy Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 02 Jan 98 - 08:06 PM I will request the lyrics for you on the Scottish Trad Music List. |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Barry Date: 02 Jan 98 - 08:26 PM Timothy, where & what is the Scottish Traditional Music List? Thanks, I'd be intrested. Barry |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Paul Jay Date: 04 Jan 98 - 06:25 PM I heard this on "THISTLE & SHAMROCK" years ago and have been trying to find it ever since. I thought the Tanahill Weavers sang it, but when they played here they didn't have a CD with it, and none of the group could remember it. I hope some one out there knows where we can find it. |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Alice Date: 04 Jan 98 - 06:53 PM I emailed my lyrics and a TIFF file of the notation to Alison. I'm still interested in seeing any other lyrics version. Alice |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 04 Jan 98 - 07:26 PM The Scottish Traditional music list is an e-mailing list. Sometimes the discussion is more about Scottish/Cape Breton fiddling; sometimes it is more about song; sometimes it gets a little off topic. I don't have the subscription info handy, but if you do a Liszt search the instructions should be there. I did post the enquiry but have got no response yet. Cheers, |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: alison Date: 04 Jan 98 - 10:56 PM Hi, Once I get my hubby to translate Alice's file I'll use Alan's midi - text to send in the tune. Slainte alison |
Subject: Tune Add: THE ARRAN BOAT From: alison Date: 05 Jan 98 - 06:00 PM Hi Well as promised here is the tune. Kindly supplied by Alice.
MIDI file: ARANBOAT.MID Timebase: 480 Name: THE ARRAN BOAT To download the November 10 MIDItext 97 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
-F3E3/4D9/4|E23/4e/4|-e3fe7/4g/4|-g3f5/4e3/2d/4|
Here are the guitar chords. Each = 1 bar unless otherwise stated eg. Em x2 = 2 bars Em. Time sig 3/4 Em X2 D X2 Em X2 D Em Em X2 D X2 Em X2 D Em Em X2 G D Em X2 G C Em X2 G D Em X2 D Em Beautiful tune, thanks again Alice. slainte alison |
Subject: Tune Add: THE ARRAN BOAT From: alison Date: 08 Jan 98 - 10:55 PM Hi, Having cleaned up my MIDI file (because Alan & Joe don't think it worked properly!!), let's do that again.
MIDI file: ARANBOAT.MID Timebase: 480 Name: THE ARRAN BOAT To download the November 10 MIDItext 97 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1 Slainte, alison |
Subject: RE: Aran / Arran boat song From: Joe Offer Date: 09 Jan 98 - 03:13 AM Much, much better, Alison. (grin) It was the gap between the halves of the ABC tune that goofed things up. I'm glad you're learning. Now, if we can get certain other people whose names will not be mentioned here to get off their duffs and post tunes..... -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,Charlene Dunaway Date: 25 Aug 07 - 12:31 PM I found a book by Mel Bay (Complete Book of Celtic Music for Appalachian Dulcimer)that has dulcimer tab, guitar chords, and musical notation for Arran Boat but no lyrics. It also comes with a CD. REALLY cool book as it covers Irish, Scottish, British, Breton tunes. I found lyrics at www.mudcat.org/@displaysong Apparently the real name of Arran Boat Song is Queen Mary's Escape From Lochleven (I think!)Hope this helps! Thanks! |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Jack Campin Date: 25 Aug 07 - 01:52 PM There are no lyrics that I know of. The tune first appears under that title in Kerr's Merry Melodies book 1, 1879. It's a variant of "The Banks of the Devon", collected by Burns near Inverness (where it was sung to a Jacobite text about the '45 by Alasdair MacMhaighstir Alasdair), but it must be a few decades older than that. Probably Scottish but the style is similar to that of the "Scotch" tunes composed in London around 1700, so I wouldn't bet too much on it. I'll post the Kerrs version (which is what everybody still plays in Scotland) later. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Jack Campin Date: 25 Aug 07 - 06:06 PM X:1 T:The Arran Boat Z:Jack Campin 2007 S:Kerr's Merry Melodies volume 1 M:6/8 Q:3/8=60 "Slow" K:E Dorian E>FE B>cd |A<FD A<FD|E>FE B>cd | F<EF E3:| e>fe ({f}g>)fe|d>BG A>FD|e>fe ({f}g>)fe|^d>Bd e2B| e>fe ({f}g>)fe|d>BG A>FD|E>FE B>cd | F>EF E3|] The Ds in bar 8 are often played as naturals these days, and the dotted figures often get reversed. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Alice Date: 25 Aug 07 - 10:27 PM The song is also known as Queen Mary's Escape from Lochleven Castle (Push off, Push off and row with speed). Since this old thread first appeared, I found the song and old lyrics on the Levy sheet music site. I still sing my own lyrics and people tell me they prefer them over the old ones. Years ago one night at our session, a guy came over to me and asked me to sing my song (Arran Boat) and while I did, he got on one knee and pulled out an engagement ring to propose to his girlfriend. It is a beautiful tune. My lyrics start with "Oh, my true love is sailing his Arran boat, sailing his boat on the silvery sea. See how it glides as the swans on the even tide, he sails his Arran boat back home to me." Alice |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Jack Campin Date: 26 Aug 07 - 05:46 AM I've got Greig's "Scots Minstrelsie", where "Queen Mary's Escape" is in volume III, but I don't know of an earlier association of the words and tune. Was Allan's text published before that? If so what tune (if any) did he suggest for it? As it is, the words (melodramatic nonsense) and tune fit very badly. It's not surprising nobody sings it any more. Greig called the tune "Highland Boat Air" and didn't sharpen the sevenths where Kerr did. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,Visitor Date: 20 Oct 11 - 10:05 AM Arran Boat Song Put off, put off, and row with speed, For now is the time and the hour of need, To oars, to oars, and trim the bark, Nor Scotland's Queen be a warder's mark! Yon light that plays round the castle's moat, Is only the warder's random shot. Put off, put off, and row with speed, For now is the time and the hour of need. Those pond'rous keys, shall the kelpies keep, And lodge in their caverns so dark and deep, Nor shall Lochleven's tower or hall, Hold thee our lovely Queen in thrall, Or be the haunt of traitors sold, While Scotland has hands and hearts so bold, Then onward, steersman, row with speed, For now is the time, and the hour of need. Hark, the alarum bell has rung, The warder's voice has treason sung, The echos to the falconets roar, Chime sweetly to the dashing shore, Let tower, hall, and battlement gleam, We steer by the light of the taper's gleam, For Scotland and Mary, on with speed, For now is the time, and the hour of need. These are the lyrics from 1774 |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 20 Oct 11 - 10:59 AM 1774? Queen Mary's death was in 1558. That is going back a long way for something to complain about. ================ It's a beautiful melody, and I much prefer it without words, especially without words with a political agenda. Anyhow, Alison's version is in 3/4 time, and Jack's, from 1879, is in 6/8 but marked "slow." Does that mean they are supposed to sound basically the same? I love the D#'s, Jack. It will be fun to play it first without them, then with them. Thanks to both of you, albeit it's been a long time. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,Jack Campin Date: 20 Oct 11 - 01:29 PM Alison's ABC was generated by a MIDI to ABC converter from input entered at a synthesiser keyboard - it wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between 3/4 and 6/8. Other versions of the tune have always been notated in 6/8. It comes across to me as two in a bar with definite strong and weak accents. Those words don't sound like something written in 1774 to me - kelpies? Really? I suspect a 19th century post-Walter-Scott rewrite of something older. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 21 Oct 11 - 10:45 AM I agree about the words, Jack. Shallow and spurious. When I play the song, images come to me of the Scottish landscape, one of the most beautiful places in the world. It brings me a deep feeling of peace. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Jack Campin Date: 26 Oct 11 - 08:07 AM I think I have found why it is called the Arran Boat Song, and it's nothing to do with either island. http://www.timetravel-britain.com/articles/castles/mary.shtml The Queen's escape from Lochleven Castle, described in that song, was probably masterminded by the Earl of Arran (she went straight to his castle after getting out). So it wasn't a boat to Arran - it was Arran's boat. Mary Queen of Scots died in 1587. Leeneia, you're confusing her with her mother. http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/timeline.htm |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 26 Oct 11 - 10:41 AM Oh. Okay. I'm still going to avoid all lyrics and play the melody to evoke the grandeur of the Scottish landscape. |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: alison Date: 27 Oct 11 - 02:17 AM lovely to hear more information after all this time. still one of my favourite tunes slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Tune Add: Aran / Arran boat song From: Alice Date: 05 Dec 11 - 01:25 PM Nice to see the update of the information on the history of this song/tune. Thanks, Jack. Alice |
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