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BS: CANADA DAY!!!

hesperis 01 Jul 01 - 02:04 PM
Abby Sale 01 Jul 01 - 02:36 PM
Amergin 01 Jul 01 - 02:41 PM
marty D 01 Jul 01 - 03:33 PM
hesperis 01 Jul 01 - 03:46 PM
Amergin 01 Jul 01 - 04:18 PM
GUEST,PROUD Canadian (at least for today) 01 Jul 01 - 04:44 PM
MarkS 01 Jul 01 - 04:51 PM
Clinton Hammond 01 Jul 01 - 05:00 PM
GUEST,Steve Latimer 01 Jul 01 - 05:10 PM
CarolC 01 Jul 01 - 05:24 PM
DougR 01 Jul 01 - 05:29 PM
Den 01 Jul 01 - 05:53 PM
Susanne (skw) 01 Jul 01 - 05:55 PM
CET 01 Jul 01 - 06:27 PM
hesperis 01 Jul 01 - 07:16 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Jul 01 - 07:32 PM
Little Hawk 01 Jul 01 - 07:55 PM
RichM 01 Jul 01 - 08:39 PM
Little Hawk 01 Jul 01 - 10:13 PM
hesperis 01 Jul 01 - 10:18 PM
sophocleese 01 Jul 01 - 10:54 PM
hesperis 02 Jul 01 - 01:47 AM
GUEST,RobDale 02 Jul 01 - 02:25 AM
hesperis 02 Jul 01 - 02:30 AM
catspaw49 02 Jul 01 - 03:13 AM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Jul 01 - 07:43 AM
Julie B 02 Jul 01 - 07:56 AM
Little Hawk 02 Jul 01 - 09:24 AM
sophocleese 02 Jul 01 - 09:45 AM
Little Hawk 02 Jul 01 - 09:47 AM
Jack the Sailor 02 Jul 01 - 10:20 AM
CET 02 Jul 01 - 11:11 AM
Barry T 02 Jul 01 - 01:32 PM
gnu 02 Jul 01 - 02:51 PM
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Metchosin 02 Jul 01 - 07:51 PM
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Lyrical Lady 02 Jul 01 - 10:21 PM
Metchosin 03 Jul 01 - 01:15 AM
catspaw49 03 Jul 01 - 01:30 AM
hesperis 03 Jul 01 - 01:56 AM
Lyrical Lady 03 Jul 01 - 02:13 AM
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Subject: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 02:04 PM

Well, well. That time of year again!

Time for Canadian 'catters to wave the flag, show national pride, and all that.

Beauty, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Abby Sale
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 02:36 PM

'Splain me, if you will. The all-seeing "Happy!" file claime that Canada Day is Monday if 7/1 is a Sunday. Does it lie?


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 02:41 PM

Says Canadia day is today....on my calendar....and it also says today is the first of July...


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: marty D
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 03:33 PM

is Canada Day a new name for Victoria Day? Or is that a separate holiday?

marty


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 03:46 PM

Victoria Day was May 21. Definitely seperate.

And there is usually a bank holiday on the monday closest to Canada Day, whether or not it's a sunday. But today was the Parade, and the events in the park.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 04:18 PM

No , Marty, Canada Day is the five year anniversary of when our dear neighbours up north finally realised that wiping their bums with poison oak was not a good thing....


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: GUEST,PROUD Canadian (at least for today)
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 04:44 PM

Canada day is the anniversary of the first Confederation, when the first four provinces joined together to form a new country. July 1st 1867 is when it happened. Monday is the paid holiday. Because of the weekend. I'm living in Georgia. But I will tip a glass in celebration some time this evening!

Rob Dale


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: MarkS
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 04:51 PM

One of my business associates is an American who lives in Toronto. He will take off both Monday and Wednesday this week. He call is "double dipping." Great deal he gets up north!
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:00 PM

Canada Day is NOT BS!!!!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:10 PM

Amen Clinton.

Happy Canada Day to all.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:24 PM

Happy Canada Day to my northern friends. Wish I could be there to celebrate it with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: DougR
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:29 PM

Happy Canada Day, Canadian Catters!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Den
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:53 PM

Well said Clinton...and I have to add mine is the only maple leaf flying on the street...and they call me a crazy Irish man. Long Live Canada. Den


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 05:55 PM

I missed a great occasion there! The Canadian warship 'Fredericton' (hope it's spelled correctly) is just now lying in Kiel harbour with other Nato ships, and they had a huge celebration last night. I was invited 'cause I got to know two of the ship's crew last week. But with my usual sense of timing, I was down with migraine all day yesterday!
I asked the guys - both being from Halifax - did they know a song called 'Barratt's Privateers'? They started grinning from ear to ear and assured me their band would be playing it on Canada Day! Hope they and all Canadians had a great time!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: CET
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 06:27 PM

We will be celebrating in a hour or so with a chicken barbecue with family. Wish I could have been on the Fredericton, though. Godspeed to all who sail in her.

Edmund


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 07:16 PM

Well, Clinton, it's BS compared to music... unless you want to do the honoUrs?


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 07:32 PM

It's a much better looking flag than the old one.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 07:55 PM

I liked the old flag. The new one looks like a gas station logo. The old one had symbols in it for most of the significant cultural groups that made up Canada's heritage (with the possible exception of Native Americans)...and it was more colorful. The new one should have had some symbol or color in it somewhere to show the presence of the French. It doesn't. It has only 2 colors...red for the land, the blood, and the British), white for spirit. Not enough.

However, I can live with it. No big deal.

Canada Day in Orillia featured a day that looked beautiful, but was friggin' COLD!!!!! 53 degrees F.!!! Just a few days ago we were dying of the heat here, and now I'm wondering if we'll get frost tonight.

Makes you wonder just what the hell is going on with the weather here. Unbelievable for July 1st.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: RichM
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 08:39 PM

Sue and I went downtown (Ottawa) this afternoon to join the festivities. We watched a performance by Sabotabby, a young friend's fine celtic/bluegrass/acoustic rock group.

Then we went up to Parliament Hill a couple of blocks away--there'll be performances there tonight, and already there were lots of people. The downtown is closed off to vehicles, so people were able to walk about anywhere in the streets. Lots of small hand held flags carried by people of all ages, and lots of faces decorated with same--even mine!

One touching scene was the tomb of the unknown soldier at the base of the National War Monument---people were spontaneously laying their small flags on the tomb. It was covered with them--a nice gesture of respect.

Happy National Day, Canada!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:13 PM

The local fireworks display just ended in Orillia, down at the park by the waterfront. Lots of beautiful skyrockets. We watched from inside, cos it's cold out there tonight, unseasonably so!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:18 PM

Beautiful fireworks, as ever. I love fireworks, as long as I'm far enough away from them that it doesn't hurt my ears!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: sophocleese
Date: 01 Jul 01 - 10:54 PM

Well I saw the Orillia fireworks from Cedar Island. No need to worry about the noise and I got to hear all about the sister of my parent's neighbour's walk in the park. It was cold and windy today but it didn't stop us diehards from having the 18th annual Arts for Peace Festival. Some lovely live music (the Raging Grannies nearly got blown off stage but instead only a speaker came down), clay, bubbles, painting, and planting bean seeds for the kids, hotdogs, fresh fruit and baked stuff to eat, not to mention Sacred Circle Dancing, Maypole Dancing and Morris Dancing, (hello John B.). Tables were there from Amnesty International and Project Ploughshares. A pleasant afternoon after I had changed my shorts and T-shirt to jeans, sweatshirt and a jacket.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 01:47 AM

This afternoon, I and Little Hawk went to the Arts for Peace Festival at the Stephen Leacock Home in Orillia, and Morris Danced for the first time in my life. (Hi, John B!)

Then we listened to "Alex", a local band, play some folk tunes. They are pretty good, and a lot of fun, but the sound guy must have been deaf. Sophoclesse started playing soccer with a couple of people, probably to get away from the overpowering loudness of the music.

Then we heard some beautiful, powerful singing from Marg Raynor. The talent from around here is AMAZING! Then I went home because poor Little Hawk was FREEEEEZING in the freaky cold weather we had today! And he was driving, so I had to leave. (That Morris Dancing must have been powerful, because I wasn't that cold. I'm usually the one who gets cold before ANYONE gets cold...)

Then later we watched fireworks.

Beauty, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: GUEST,RobDale
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 02:25 AM

Gee Whiz! Little Hawk isn't it the other way around? The Gas Station Logo is a ripoff of the Flag!

For Flags, I think a simple design is the best! The Red Ensign was pretty to be sure, but way too busy and way too much Union Jack! (No offence Brits but we are our own country now) Also the coats of arms only represented Four Provinces.

Our new flag is elegant, simple and sends the right message about what Canada is. It doesn't depict the English or the French or the Scotts or the Irish or the Italians or the Chinese. It represents all Canadians for what we are now!

I was a small boy when we started flying the Maple Leaf, I loved it then and I love it now. During the ten years I lived in Ottawa that flag gave me tears of pride during the Canada Day Celebrations!

Cheers for Little Hawk, Canadian Mudcatters and MudCatters who love Canada! Cheers for Canada!

If you want to see the flags go here: http://www.southam.com/nmc/ohcanada/flag/flaghistory.html


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 02:30 AM

Blicky for RobDale

...and now I'm going to sleep. G'night!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 03:13 AM

Sounds like a great day, a kinda' US July 4th sort of celebration huh.......or, uh....EH? Fireworks and all that............Parades, celebrations in the park.....that kind of thing? I suppose you roasted a moose in a pit, shagged a few beaver.............Well, CONGRATS!!! Sounds real Canadjun!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 07:43 AM

I thought the Maple Leaf was red because that's the colour of Maple Leaves, and that you picked it as a symbol because it didn't have any particular link with any particular sort of Canadian. And the white would do for all the people living in the ice bound places where you don't find Maples.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Julie B
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 07:56 AM

Does anyone know why the Toronto Hockey team are called the 'Maple LeaFS' rather than the 'Maple LeaVES'?


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:24 AM

Julie - I have wondered about that all my life, and I'm from Ontario, Canada. It is undeniably strange, but Maple Leafs it is...

McGrath - I think you're right, the maple leaf was chosen because it represents all Canadians in an unspecific way. As far as the white....well, maybe it has something to do with ice and snow, but I'm not sure. It could just be there in order to provide a field for the red leaf to stand on.

They could just as well have had a green leaf on a blue field.

I think I like the old Red Ensign simply because that's the flag I grew up with, and like Rob Dale I was very patriotic as a young boy. These things remain strongly imprinted in the subconscious. The Red Ensign to me will always be Canada, whereas the new flag seems like some kind of afterthought to me...sort of an artificial thing that got stuck on later. These are instinctive reactions which probably have little to do with the actual aesthetic merits of either flag.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: sophocleese
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:45 AM

Well I grew up with the Maple Leaf so I like it (I'm younger than Little Hawk by the way) its (it's?) distinctive and simple, you can recognize it quite a distance away.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:47 AM

Like Spaw's nose... :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 10:20 AM

I think they were called Leafs to head off possible catcalls like. "Here come the leaves" and "Leave!" Hockey fans are bad enough without extra ammunition. (just a theory)

Speaking of Hockey! How about the national (Olympic and World championships) hockey team jerseys. They are so cool that it looks like the flag was invented for Hockey!

I hope that the white doesn't represent snow anymore than it does on the union jack, starss and stripes or French tri colour.

Here is the reason for the red and white given in the royal proclamation. I guess if it is good enough for old George V it ia good enough for us!

The flag is red and white, the official colours of Canada as appointed by King George V in 1921, with a stylized 11-point red leaf in its centre.

Proclamation

Enjoy your paid holiday back up there in the true north strong and free! (I get Wednesday off here in Georgia) Hot dogs and fireworks and not a maple leaf to be seen!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: CET
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 11:11 AM

Well, Charmion actually. Again too lazy to change the cookie.

Ottawa's fireworks were blown out -- at 45 kph and gusting to well over 60 kph, the wind was too strong, and the fireworks were called off for safety reasons. I don't think it has ever happened before. Edmund, my brothers, my sister-in-law and I hiked out onto the Macdonald-Cartier Bridge over the Ottawa River (our favourite vantage point, straight sight-line to the fireworks launch site) and waited in the freezing gale for more than 45 minutes -- nothing happened. We went home, had cocoa (them) and slivovitz (me) and went to bed. All the way home, I kept expecting the first ka-booms to tell me that I had given up too early and was missing the show of the year, and it was cold comfort indeed to find out that everybody missed out. I read in the paper that Alanis Morrisette was a great hit on Parliament Hill, but it will be a frosty Friday in hell before I again brave the mad crowd that forms downtown for the Canada Day show. Once trampled, permanently put off.

However, the chicken barbecue went well (everybody well stuffed), we sang a few songs in the afternoon, and today we are enjoying concentrated idleness. The good life, Canajan style.

Charmion


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Barry T
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 01:32 PM

A little background on the Canadian flag: The design that became the Canadian flag was conceived by Dr. George Stanley, then Dean of Arts at the Royal Military College in Kingston, Ontario. I am proud to say that "Doc Stanley" was my history prof at the time. His design proposal was based upon the College Flag, a design that originated about 1920.

Here is a more complete story.

I remember clearly that cold February evening when our pipe band and bugler mustered on the parade square to lower the Canadian Ensign for the last time and to raise the new flag. Though I recall being most concerned with my body temperature at the time, that lonely ceremony now has a very special place in my memory, and I was fortunate to find that a fellow cadet had photographed the event.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 02:51 PM

Well, Happy Birthday Canada. We started festivities on Saturday after lunch and finished just after midnight last night. Huge gathering in Shediac, New Brunswick.

Re the flag... I like the Maple Leaf and I'm glad they let the Union Jack off.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: JohnB
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 06:04 PM

Well I had a good Canada Day, actually I just back home about 1 hour ago. We went back to Bryan Suttons after the Festival and stayed there singing until it wasn't Canada Day any more. We had 3 mudcatters Morris Dancing in Orillia for the last dance, (Sophocleese, Hesperis and JohnB) you might ask where was Little Hawk, hiding in the crowd would be the answer. He had disappeared by the time I had finished talking to Sophocleese and Hesperis, so I never did get a chance to talk to him. I think they could be hooked on the Morris stuff, they even want to start an Orillian Side, Great stuff. JohnB


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 07:51 PM

A wonderful Canada Day yesterday! We took my Mum in the afternoon to the celebrations in Victoria to hear my brother band play for part of the festivities. When their set ended, he announced from the bandstand that not only was it Canada's Birthday, it was also Mum's, and that although she wasn't quite as old as Canada, at 81, she was pushing it. The band and the crowd sang Happy Birthday to her as her tears rolled. Happy Birthday Mum! Happy Birthday Canada!

Times have changed since I was young. I have no recollection of celebrating the 1st of July in Canada with flag waving and fireworks prior to the seventies; that was what the Americans did for their Fourth of July holiday. Prior to Trudeau, Dominion Day, as it was called then, was just a welcome day off from work.

On the westcoast of Canada, at least, the flags and fireworks always came out for Victoria Day, the 24th of May, and when we were small, we would line the street for the Victoria Day Parade, donned in our sailor suits and best dresses, waving Red Ensigns and Union Jacks. It seems weird to think of it now.

I do recall that my cousin, when we about 14 or 15, created quite a stir locally one 24th of May. He'd found a large Russian Flag and flew the "Hammer and Sickle" beside the Red Ensign and the Union Jack, from the second story balcony of my grandmother's house, which was on the May Day (24th) parade route. This was sometime during the early sixties at the height of the cold war. We thought it was a hoot, but my grandmother and others were not amused.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 09:31 PM

Happy Canada Day, all you Canadians. Thanks for the fiddle tunes and fiddlers from Quebec and the Atlantic Provinces, fiddlers from the Metis tribe, Ian and Sylvia, Buffy St.Marie, and Madame Bolduc. Also Moosehead Beer. They more than make up for all the cold fronts, eh.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 02 Jul 01 - 10:21 PM

Ah ... it t'was a great day! I spent it in beautiful downtown Ganges, on Salt Spring Is. Grand fireworks ... lots of boats in the harbour and kids running around with Canadian flags draped on their backs ... a good time was had by all!

P.S. A lady visiting from the USA asked me if Canada still belonged to the British Colonies ...I answered "Oh yeah .. Aunty Betty's still in charge" ....

Was I too cheeky? LL


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 01:15 AM

no just misinformed LL, Canada's ass belongs to the US and large multinationals. Lizzy doesn't have much influence anymore*BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 01:30 AM

Oh I dunno' Mets.........I heard that she sent Prince Phillip over for the day and he not only participated in, but actually won the "Beaver Shagging" event in Toronto!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 01:56 AM

Hmmmm, I wonder if any Toronto people indulged in a little moose tipping over the weekend? All those atrocious moose that Mel Lastman ordered... just standing there dumbly... and then... TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 02:13 AM

Hey Met ... don't I know it ... I was being sarcastic in my very polite Canadian way!!

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 02:19 AM

Is that it LL? Is that "polite Canadian" thing the reason that Phil won the Beaver Shag? How disappointing! I just figured that after all those years with Liz...............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 02:23 AM

Ya know 'Spaw ... from what I've heard about Phil .. Beaver Shagging has been his #1 event for a number of years ... Liz seems to have turned a blind eye to his "mis" adventures! Oh well, like father ... like son .....ooops ... did I say that?

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: sophocleese
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 08:36 AM

hesperis if you're interested in Moose Tipping you could head over to the LCBO near the port. It appears that one of the Toronto Moose has migrated north and taken up residence there. It seems fairly mild mannered and if you mention Moose Tipping it may just show you the small box around its neck used for collecting for some charity.


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Subject: RE: BS: CANADA DAY!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Jul 01 - 09:55 AM

BarryT

Thanks for the informaton. And thanks to Prof. Stanley. What a typically Canadian Story, even though In was only 6 at the time I know remember the Conservatives and older people were very concerned about losing the ensign. And thanks to the NDP for insisting upon the single maple leaf. I've never voted for the left in Canada, but they do often come up with very good ideas.


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