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Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s

GUEST,geust jim 19 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM
GUEST,jim 19 Dec 09 - 03:46 PM
GUEST,John 02 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM
Valmai Goodyear 02 Jan 10 - 08:03 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 02 Jan 10 - 08:23 PM
GUEST,Ralphie 02 Jan 10 - 08:35 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 03 Jan 10 - 09:14 AM
The Borchester Echo 03 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM
Splott Man 03 Jan 10 - 11:15 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 03 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 03 Jan 10 - 12:08 PM
John MacKenzie 03 Jan 10 - 12:24 PM
John MacKenzie 03 Jan 10 - 12:35 PM
Herga Kitty 03 Jan 10 - 01:36 PM
The Sandman 03 Jan 10 - 02:50 PM
The Sandman 03 Jan 10 - 03:03 PM
Judy Dyble 03 Jan 10 - 06:29 PM
Kevin Sheils 04 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM
The Borchester Echo 04 Jan 10 - 04:40 AM
Kevin Sheils 04 Jan 10 - 04:47 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 04 Jan 10 - 05:15 AM
The Borchester Echo 04 Jan 10 - 05:27 AM
davyr 04 Jan 10 - 05:30 AM
Edthefolkie 04 Jan 10 - 06:39 AM
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davyr 04 Jan 10 - 06:57 AM
davyr 04 Jan 10 - 06:59 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 04 Jan 10 - 07:21 AM
John MacKenzie 04 Jan 10 - 07:37 AM
GUEST 04 Jan 10 - 08:57 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Jan 10 - 09:04 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 04 Jan 10 - 09:20 AM
Kevin Sheils 04 Jan 10 - 10:00 AM
Will Fly 04 Jan 10 - 10:15 AM
Mick Pearce (MCP) 04 Jan 10 - 12:58 PM
Kevin Sheils 05 Jan 10 - 03:28 AM
Kevin Sheils 05 Jan 10 - 03:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,geust jim
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM

im going up and dwn the northern line 14 years old


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,jim
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 03:46 PM

in engaland i can say it was going to a place i didnt know mick softley    mark brialy no one turnd up somewere dont know were got lift back in van today stood in the cold in waterloo market amsterdam no exuses


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM

Anyone remember the club at the Starting Gate pub...Wood Green...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:03 PM

I may have missed a reference, but has anyone mentioned Dingles at the Adams Arms in Fitzrovia? In the mid-1970s the residents were Tim Laycock, Jim McGean, Chris Foster, Simon Rosser, Keith Dignum,and a lady called Bridget whose surname I never knew. In my student days I was a soldier of the line on the door. Sheila Miller was one of the organisers; the main man was Roger Holt, drummer with Dingles Chillibom Band.

The club was unusual in that a bit of dancing was possible and often happened.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:23 PM

Ah Val.
Dingles....
My other club (after the Rising Sun in Catford!)
Even recorded my first LP on their label...(Sadly now defunct, but..I've got the tapes..nudge nudge!)
Yeah...I remember a Bridget too. Danged if I can remember her surname though?
Bonnie...are you out there? (Shaljean that is!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Jan 10 - 08:35 PM

Jeez!! Have just realised that this thread was started 9 years ago....
And, there are some of us who still remember those far off days..(memo to self, take off those rosie looking spectacles immediately..It wasn't that good!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 09:14 AM

Might have been Bridget Danby (as she was after she married Steve). She certainly went there, though I didn't remember her as being a resident.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 09:18 AM

Chris Foster was attempting to reminisce with me recently about Dingles. All I could recall were vague spectres of him, John Kirkpatrick and Sue Harris and not even exactly where it was. Chris said that was because it was in two places, the Rising Sun on Tottenham Court Road and the Adams Arms in Conway Street. My suspicion is that memories blur as a result of the haze of dope drifting from Joe Boyd's UFO further down Tottenham Court Road at No 32. Something happened at the Sols Arms too. `I think I remember Wizz Jones was involved. That was close to a Wimpy Bar which was all there was to foregather in on Sunday afternoons before the Three Horseshoes opened its doors opposite at 7 p.m. for the Pentangle's club. Odd that the only venue left in that quarter is Musical Traditions at The King & Queen, far more serious now than it ever was.

There were two other Three Horseshoes of note: one in Heath Street, Hampstead where Bert Jansch was a resident, then The Three City Four took over, and another in Upper Street, Islington (where every bar had some sort of session at one time before they all changed their names and got poncy) where Dominic Behan famously staggered in on Martin Carthy mid-ballad and demanded his turn. He got it, departed to the next bar along and Dr MCMBE resumed at verse 93.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Splott Man
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 11:15 AM

Ah memories...

Valmai, could it have been husky voiced singer-songwriter Bridget St John?

I sometimes would hitch up from deepest Surrey to the Fighting Cocks, and the Hammersmith Folk Club (2 very tall residents, John Something and A.N.Other), and also the Croydon Folk Song Club (Pete Twitchett). There was also briefly a Folkish club at the Boathouse in Kew, and later on when I lived in the area in the 70s, there was the New Merlin's Cave somewhere near King's X.

Splott Man


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM

Yep, I'm still out here. (I was Out There 9 years ago too...)

I remember a Bridget, and the surname Danby strikes a chord, but I'm not sure if I'm mixing her up with another Bridget. She was a different one from Ms. St John.

Simon & Keith had a duo called Pickled Dill, which I always thought was brilliant. I loved the way they sang Norton New Bell Wake.

Did my first gig with Packie at Dingles in January 1976. YIKES!! 34 years ago!!!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:08 PM

Splotty - I don't think Miss St.John ever came to Dingles. I think that by the early 70s she was only doing concerts. But ask me no questions.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:24 PM

The Starting Gate! Thanks John, I have been trying to remember the name of that place for years. I remember seeing The Levee Breakers there. Lineup may have been, Beverly [later Mrs Martyn] on vocals, Mac McGann on the first double necked guitar I ever saw, Henry the Eighth on jug, among others I have forgotten.
BTW, the club in the crypt of that church in Bayswater, was The Holy Ground, Mike Absolom was there a lot.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 12:35 PM

Oh and BTW, the said Holy Ground was the last place I met up with that fine gentleman Packy Byrne, mentioned by Bonnie. We wandered across Queensway to the pub, for a jar and a chat.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 01:36 PM

Bridget Danby moved from London to Suffolk and ran Felixstowe festival. She played flute on Nic Jones' recording of Penguin Eggs, on the album of that name. I think she sang in the South Bank performance of the Transports too.

I went to Dingles once or twice in 1970 when John K was playing with Dingles Chillybom Band, and before the club moved to the Adams Arms, but my recollection is that it was in the Roebuck in Tottenham Court Road.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 02:50 PM

Dingles was adams arms conway street,the female resident Singer was Ros Shaylor,Nic Dow later became a resident,as did Mike Callow? Bridgit Danby was living in Suffolk about 1978


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 03:03 PM

"There was often a sing song in the Three Tuns, Blackheath.....a fine 'alternative' pub in those days."
I know it well being born actually on Blackheath.
I lived right next door to the Three Tuns,my mother had an Antique shop,there in Tranquil Vale,and prior to that one called 52 two steps,just across the road.
Dave Bryant ran a club in Blackheath,but I think it was just beyond the railway station,up the hill in the direction of Lee Green.
The Tower folk club moved to the Three Blackbirds,and became the Blackbirds folk club was run by Rip Rippingale [the singing railwayman]and Ticklers Jam, I was a Resident, it had been started by Dymphna.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Judy Dyble
Date: 03 Jan 10 - 06:29 PM

The Starting Gate in Wood Green was my 'local' club. Ashley Hutchings was a regular visitor, probably where I met up with him and the rest of Fairport I should think.. It was a folk club one night a week in a room above the pub and on other nights it had other music.. I remember seeing Rufus Thomas there once 'just a-walking the dawg'. The Fishmongers Arms in Wood Green was the local Jazz Club.. mostly trad jazz, but later had rock bands as well..

Those were the days eh?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM

Bridget Danby married Steve Danby in August August 1976. At the time she would have been going to Dingles she would have been Bridget Hogg, which name may ring more bells with the old Dingles regulars.

I was chatting with Chris Foster about Dingles when he did his gig at Walthamstow last year. The original club at the Rising Sun was started by John Kirkpatrick with my brother Gerry Sheils and Roger Holt (JK mentions it in the booklet to Shirley Collins CD boxset "Within Sound"). I think Chris and I agreed that Gerry had moved away by the time he was involved. I remember good times at the old Rising Sun venue. I think "The North Circular Accidental Band" started there.

I have slight memories of a club at The Starting Gate Wood Green. Is it the same club that was later nearby at Bounds Green, I think the pub was The Railway Tavern. I was regular there for a short time in 1975 when I lived nearby at Ally Pally? After the Folk club we would go to a dodgy private club with a "dining" licence so as long as you paid 25p for a sandwich you could drink after hours on a Sunday!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 04:40 AM

The club in Bounds Green was at the Springfield Park Tavern. Chris Foster (again) told me as we passed it - it's on the end of the road in which I now live - that he played there on his birthday in 1976. It only has a widescreen telly with football now.

Where was the Starting Gate? I remember the name but not where it was.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 04:47 AM

That's right The Springfield (obviously I had too many sandwiches)

The Starting Gate is near the exit to Alexander Palace Rail Station. The exit nearest Wood Green that is.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 05:15 AM

The North Circular Accidental Band! I used to work in C# House with Doug Sherriff, and a gas guy he was too. Anybody know what he's doing these days? The Rising Sun at Catford was one of my habitual haunts - which is where I first became friends with Anne Lister and Ralphie, among other folk. The late lamented Dave Bryant was also a regular there, I think; and that was the first place I ever heard Nic Dow and Tim Laycock sing, both of whom used to turn up fairly often, at least in my day. Ruth, who ran it in later years, is a Facebook buddy and I've just heard from her. (She has not lived in London in some years, and is keeping very well indeed.)

Anybody remember the club very near C#H in Gloucester Avenue, The Engineer or The Railway, or some name that reminded me of trains? That was the first British folk club I ever went to, to see Carolanne Pegg.

Yes Judy, those definitely were the days! O my friends, we're older but no wiser...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 05:27 AM

Doug Sherriff died a few years ago. His widow who lives in Salisbury was in touch a while ago seeking reminiscences of his life for their daughter.

The Engineer is an extremely upmarket gaffe these days, as is the Enterprise, up Gloucester Avenue and opposite Chalk Farm Station. The Howff at the top end of Regents Park Road is long gone too. Seamas Ewens was relating to me recently the tale of how the landlords reclaimed it. Just think, I once was able to afford to live just a few doors down from there, and Hedy West lived just over the road.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: davyr
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 05:30 AM

Yes, the pub was the Engineer and I think the club was called "The Cut". Saw Peter Bellamy there in about 1976 and remember he told a story about a couple of old Norfolkmen who used to sleep in their wardrobe during freezing winter weather as it was a little warmer than their beds.

Might try it tonight...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 06:39 AM

Blimey, lots of memories jogged there.

I think we saw a post dissolution Young Tradition at the Engineer some time around 1973. Certainly saw Sandy Denny, Mr Gladstone's Bag, Albion Country Band Mk II etc at the Howff. June Tabor, Nic Jones, Tom Paley, Ken Loveless, Bob Davenport and loads of others at the Enterprise. Shirley Collins got us in to Dingle's to see the Etchinghams even though the bloke on the door thought it was too crowded.

Anybody remember The New Merlins Cave? Long time jazz club, but Steve Ashley started a new club there in Tuesdays in 1973 with Anthea Joseph and Heather Wood on the door, and Heather, Lea Nicholson, Steve, Simon Nicol, Richard and Linda Thompson, and Robin and Barry Dransfield as residents.

Oh yeah, must mention Kilburn and the Highroads, well known folkies, at the Greyhound, Fulham Palace Rd. About 4 of us walked in and did a double take. A little disabled bloke in a drape jacket, a DA and one glove? A black drummer with crutches? A bass player of restricted growth? What the hell IS this? At half time, the rest of the band buggered off to the bar and left the drummer marooned. Mr Dury used to say that if he had a fiver for every person who's claimed to have seen the Kilburns...but we really did, so that's £20 then Ian, wherever you are!

Sorry to hear the Enterprise is really up market now. Wouldn't allow me in then. Thank God, I understand Marine Ices is still going (catalyst of Haverstock Hill gentrification according to Jerry White in "London in the 20th Century" - you could have fooled me!)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 06:55 AM

Left Peter Bellamy out of the Enterprise list, he did quite a few songs from The Transports via a little notebook on a music stand. We were so lucky, and we knew it.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: davyr
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 06:57 AM

I believe the Borchester Echo said it was the Engineer that had gone up-market (although for all I know the Enterprise may have done as well).

Nice to hear Marine Ices is still going, although IMHO they were always a poor second-best to Benigra Gelateria which used to be next door to Goodge Street tube station.

Oh for a double scoop of their home-made Zabaglione ice cream (even in this weather)...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: davyr
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 06:59 AM

Whoops, I should learn to read - the BE mentioned both establishments in the same breath...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 07:21 AM

Marine Ices is still there??!! YESSSSSSSSSSS !! :-D


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 07:37 AM

Pistachio


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 08:57 AM

Just found this thread, and haven't read every post - but it's bringing back memories:
My first folk club was the Jackhammer at a pub called The Angel in London Rd, Brentford (no longer there). Played my first gig there in 1966 (floor spot with 2 schoolfriends, I'd only been playing guitar 9 months). If I remember right, it was run by Alan Young. Also saw Steve Benbow, Don Partridge, Jo Ann Kelly, Gerry Lockran, Johnny Joyce & Mac McGann, Mike Cooper there, among others. (Residents were the Jawbone Jug Band, whom I joined briefly in 1970.)
I regularly frequented the Horseshoe in Tottenham Ct Rd, (just The Horseshoe, not Three Horseshoes as Borchester Echo said) through 1967, while Pentangle were getting their act together. I remember John Martyn MC'd most weeks.
A poster I have for April 1968 calls it the "Jansch/Renbourne club" and lists Stefan Grossman and John Martyn (7th); ditto on the 14th plus Panama Ltd; Ralph McTell, Clive Palmer and Wizz Jones on the 21st; and McTell with Mike Chapman on the 28th. (Entry was 7/6 for members, 10s for others - quite expensive in those days.)
Other posters in my collection:
The "Now" club at the White Hart, Southall, November 1966: Vincent Crane Combo, Roy & Val Bailey, Diz Disley, John Foreman).
Holy Ground (4a Inverness Place, Bayswater, every Wednesday), May/June 1968: Young Tradition, Mike Absalom, Dominic Behan, Ron Geesin (anyone else remember this mad Scots genius?), Diz Disley, Alex Campbell, Noel Murphy, Johnny Silvo.
In August they held a "Grand Blues Night" with Stefan Grossman, "Joanne" Kelly [sic], Mike Absalom, Simon Prager & Steve Rye, and the Classic Jug Band . (I was there and remember Alexis Korner, leather-jacketed and leather-faced, turning up for a floor spot.)
The listings for the rest of the year include Jackson C Frank, Al Stewart, the Strawbs and Martin Carthy & Dave Swarbrick.
My ephemera collection also includes membership cards for:
Les Cousins (naturally ;-));
The "Robey" folk club, Sir George Robey, Finsbury Park;
Hounslow Folk Club, White Bear, Kingsley Rd (later called "Grail Folk");
When I was with the Jawbone Jug Band, we once supported Accolade (Don Partridge and Gordon Giltrap's band) at Hornsey Art College, along with Cliff Aungier, Gerry Lockran, Dave Sewell and Jumping Jack (whose act involved tap-dancing in skis...)
From 1973, I was in a band playing clubs around Richmond, such as the Derby Arms in Sheen (where we supported Vin Garbutt), the Lamp, in a crypt in the Vineyard, Richmond, the Cabbage Patch and Barmy Arms (Twickenham), Half Moom (Putney), Packhorse (Staines). We ventured as far east as the Central Hotel, East Ham (not to mention outside London, which I guess is off topic...).


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 09:04 AM

Sorry to hear that Doug Sherriff died. In 71/72 I was living in Fulham and finished off most evenings in the Kings Head, which was more or less at the end of the road I was living in. Doug would come down sometimes to record John Bowe and John O'Shea, who played there at weekends, and I'd run into him from time to time (as well as at CSH of course).

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 09:20 AM

What a great post, Guest. Can you give some sort of user name (it doesn't have to be your real one if you don't want) because sometimes the moderators delete totally anonymous messages. That would be a shame, so type something in the From box - I'd also like to know if I've ever seen you anywhere -


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 10:00 AM

Doug Sherriff joined the Folk Shop at CSH to work with me sometime in early 1970 I guess, we had some good times and I was sorry to hear about his death a few years back. Diane was also working there around that time. Doug stayed on and worked with Marianne McKenzie, who took over after I left there.

Then a year or so later I was formally resident with Marian and Don Bonito at the Enterprise, having been a regular there for some years. Clive Woolf, who I used to sing with some years before had been resident and I took over when he left.

Lots of links and connections in the memories in this thread. I would have known some of the people posting but not from the mudcat names necessarily. There is still an Enterprise regular from the late 60s early 70s coming regularly to my latest haunt in Walthamstow.

I must have seem MCP in the Kings Head Fulham around that time but only remember meeting him a few years later. I may have spent more time in the White Horse opposite!


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 10:15 AM

If anyone had popped in to the "Redan" on the corner of Queensway and Westbourne Grove any Thursday during the years 1970 to mid-1976, they would have seen a moveable feast of a band called The Egbert Sousé All Stars. I say moveable feast, because the band waxed and waned from between 5 and 8 people at any one gig, depending on who turned up. We played a mix of jug band music, blues and, in later days, 1920s dance numbers.

The main personnel (apart from me on guitar and tenor banjo) were: Pete Charlton (founder) on vocals and kazoo; Rita Foreman (ex-wife of John and mother of Chris) on washboard; Brian Catchpole on vocals, blues harp and kazoo; Robin Wayne (brother of Mick) on double bass; Stefan Dreja (brother of Chris) on jug and trombone; Pete Reid on tenor banjo and bass saxophone; Ian Chisholm on guitar and mandolin; Norman Picken on clarinet and alto sax and Lawrence (surname forgotten) on tenor sax. We also had, now and then, Diz Disley (who lived upstairs in the pub) on guitar, Bob Kerr on trumpet and a couple called Paul and Wink who played banjo and swanee whistle respectively.

The then landlord of the pub (the late) Johnny Watkins, had been a guitarist and singer with the Tito Burns Agency, and hosted several musical events at the Redan. Sunday lunchtime was jazz with the Denise brothers, Frank and Laurie.

Bayswaterites might like to know that the launderette across the road from the Redan was the very first coin-op launderette in Britain. we used to do our washing there and very often sat next to drummer and bandleader Ray Ellington of The Goon Show fame - he had "RE" embroidered on his smalls!

Don't get me started on the Cousins, the Horseshow, the Cambridge, Bunjies, Klooks Kleek, the Marquee, the Troubadour...


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 04 Jan 10 - 12:58 PM

Kevin - it was the other way round for me. Very occasional visits to the White Horse and the one on the other corner (The Starling? The Blackbird? can't remember now!).

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 03:28 AM

Will Fly posted "Don't get me started on ...... Klooks Kleek, the Marquee, ..."

Now that opens a completely different can of worms Will. I'm having enough flashbacks with the "folk" venues without the "other" places ;-)


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Kevin Sheils
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 03:36 AM

MCP

Sandra has just reminded me that the Fulham pub I mentioned is the White Hart not Horse! Silly me.

There is a White Horse nearby at Parsons Green, known locally as the Sloany Pony, but no musical connections as far as I know.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 03:52 AM

Anyone remember that pity catch phrase...
"Wadden makes wednesdays worthwhle" !


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 04:26 AM

Nice typo Ralphie :)
So perceptive too !


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 10:13 AM

Well.....pity or pithy....it worked!

The Croydon Folksong Club is still going strong after 42 years!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 10:29 AM

yes, I am playing there on April 12 2010.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:09 AM

Tug the Cox,
             The club you refer to on Catford Bridge, every Friday night, was the one we ran in "The Railway Tavern". Dave Watts, Robin Gray and John Hutchison were the residents, "The Taverners" and I had the task of taking the money at the door. The club was started by Dave and Robin and by the time we were obliged to leave the artist list was endless. When I was with "Four Square Circle" we did "The Crypt" at Bayswater on a number of occasions as well as "The Fox" over the east.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:18 AM

I was just checking for another club and thought that it hadn't been mentioned. Then I see that Kevin also mentioned it, although with the wrong spelling - it was WaYzgoose in Stockwell, where I was also sometimes a resident. (It didn't have the upper case Y - that was to point out the spelling mistake! That sort of mixed case stuff didn't come along until later). Wayzgoose was another place, like Dingles, that used to have dancing as well as song.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: davyr
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:25 AM

Staying with South London, does anyone remember the Melting Pot club that met at the Manor Arms in Streatham and afterwards at the White Lion further down the road?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:40 AM

I loved Wayzgoose, though only got there a couple of times - funny, it just popped into my mind this morning for no clear reason (obviously Mudcat threads have a way of seeping into your brain unawares). What's the story behind that name?


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 11:51 AM

Bonnie - as far as I remember, it was a printers' jamboree. I think originally an annual feast given by a printer for his workers.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 12:59 PM

You beat me to it Mick, if memory serves it was the bun fight laid on by a master printer for his workers. Usually fell around August time.

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:34 PM

I remeber the melting pot very well. I went most weeks when it moved to Blackhorse road. My mate Pat and I would most often do a couple of songs or more there each week. There were two brothers that ran it. Steven? and ? I rather liked their political affiliations

I can't remember many others, but there was a realy good guitarist who'd spent time in greenwich village, often played fixing to die rag.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 06:54 PM

Anybody remember the Shakespeare's Head in or around Soho? (I think that's what it was called.) I went and heard Pete Atkin there when I first hit the royal shores and all of these names (including Clive James') were new to me. Lovely, lovely gig.


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Subject: RE: Folk Clubs London 1960s & 70s
From: GUEST,eric the viking
Date: 05 Jan 10 - 07:17 PM

As I sit about 700 miles north of London and forty years or so later it's strange that many of us here must have been in the same place at the same time, might even have had a conversation in passing or queued at the bar togther. Been to the same gigs and joined in singing the same chorus songs.


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