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Lyr Req: When the Poppies Bloom Again

McGrath of Harlow 08 Jul 01 - 04:58 PM
GUEST,Ed 08 Jul 01 - 06:00 PM
GUEST,Ed 08 Jul 01 - 06:03 PM
McGrath of Harlow 08 Jul 01 - 09:34 PM
MMario 09 Jul 01 - 09:55 AM
McGrath of Harlow 09 Jul 01 - 11:15 AM
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IanC 10 Jul 01 - 08:52 AM
MMario 10 Jul 01 - 09:08 AM
McGrath of Harlow 10 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM
MMario 12 Jul 01 - 01:06 PM
Les from Hull 12 Jul 01 - 01:22 PM
Liz the Squeak 12 Jul 01 - 05:54 PM
Jim Dixon 13 Jul 01 - 01:16 AM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Jul 01 - 02:51 PM
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Subject: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 04:58 PM

A friend has just sent me this inquiry - so I pass it on the 'Cat:

Do you think you could help me find the words and notes !! for a song that an old (83 yr old) friend is trying to get - it's called When the Poppies Bloom Again and was recorded by Vera Lynn and Ambrose and probably written by Arthur Tracy in 1936 .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 06:00 PM

There's a MIDI file of the tune here. Let me know if you need any help converting this to notes.

I've had no luck with the words, but the fact that it's on the Lyrics World 'wanted' list, suggests that it's not readily available on the Web.

Ed


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 06:03 PM

Sorry, the direct MIDI link doesn't work. Try going to this page and clicking on the relevant link.

Ed


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Jul 01 - 09:34 PM

Thanks for the tune. I've just been hunting around - it seems to have been recorded by a fair range of people - as welll; as Vera ynjn, Dorothy Squire, The Westerners, and others. But I haven't yet been able to track down the words - I've found it credited to "L Towers, M Morrow, D Pelosi", so I don't know where Arthur Tracy would fit in.

Anyone got any ideas or information?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: MMario
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 09:55 AM

the sheet music is for sale here

url=http://www.sheetmusicwarehouse.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?search=When&next=10


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 11:15 AM

It's out there somewhere - but the words don't appear to be on any websites, as GUEST,Ed said. Even the dreaded International Lyrics Server with its vaunted two million songs doesn't have it. Which is strange, because it doesn't appear to have been at all an obscure song - recorded a number of times by quite well known people.

So does anyone out there know it? Or know anyone who wopuld know the words? Carol, who asked me to get it says that in at least one sheltered housing scheme it's more or less the theme tune for the residents. So maybe if someone goes singing at places like that they could try a bit of good old song collecting.

Just need the words - that midi site provides the tune.

Anyway, I'll let Carol have the link to the songsheet that MMario gave, just in case we can't come up with the words. But I'm sure we can.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 08:40 AM

Up to the top again. Maybe I should have had a different thread title, maybe making disparaging remarks about somebody's anatomy...That seems to be a way to get lots of response.

But lots of response isn't what I need. Surely somebody must know this song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: IanC
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 08:52 AM

Kevin

Don't think I haven't tried. There are plenty of references on the web, just no lyrics.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: MMario
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 09:08 AM

Kevin - I think part of the problem is that from what I have seen it is still under copyright - which means many would be leery of posting the lyrics - tho' I WOULD think someone would know it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM

But the web is crawling with lyrics of songs far more recent than this one.

In case any one is worrying, I don't think there's ever been a serious suggestion that posting a lyric in a thread constitutes a breach of copyright.

It can't be on a website anyway it seems. But someone must have the words in some other format, like in their memory. Or they've an auntie who has.

With a title like that I'm wondering if it's got any kind of war reference. Probably not, or it would have passed into wider circulation in the oral tradition, like Roses are blooming in Picardy (and I know that didn't have a war significance when it was written, but it owes it's survival to picking up one; and of course to being a good song.)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: MMario
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 01:06 PM

"poppie"-ing this up to the top of the list.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: Les from Hull
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 01:22 PM

You might get a recording or the sheet music of this at your local music library. Vera Lynn was pretty precise with her words, so you should be able to transcribe well- enough. I'll check with Hull Libraries tomorrow - perhaps other UK catters will do the same. Other than that somebody's gonna have to cough up the seven quid!

Les


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 05:54 PM

Failing that, try a phone call to the Music library of HMV or BBC Radio library.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 01:16 AM

According to AMG - the All Music Guide, there are 3 currently available CD's that contain "When the Poppies Bloom Again."

- Ambrose & His Orchestra, "Power House, Vol. 2," 1999, Dutton Vocalion #6011.

- Dorothy Squires, "Say It with Flowers," 2000, President #1154 - where it is credited to "D. Pelosi/L. Towers/M. Morrow."

- Vera Lynn, on the collection "49 Golden Treasures," 1998, Empire Super Doubles #88560.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jul 01 - 02:51 PM

Thanks people. Maybe we'll get there. I'm still puzzled by it not being in any of the lyric data banks. Maybe there is some kind of history of copyright problems. (Maybe the fact that it's credited variously to L Towers, M Morrow, D Pelosi and to Arthur Tracy has something to do with it?)

The friend who asked me to chase up the words has been looking in on the thread - she says "It's been fascinating watching the replies come in over the ether."

Apparently while the residents in the sheltered living set up agree in liking the song they can't agree on exactly how the words go. So if nothing turns up she thinks she'll search out the sheet music to make sure that peace and harmony prevails.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN THE POPPIES BLOOM AGAIN (Towers etc)
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 16 Jul 01 - 10:11 AM

Hull music library turned up trumps again!

WHEN THE POPPIES BLOOM AGAIN
(Lee Towers, Morton Morrow, Don Pelasi)

The Flanders battlefields have seen the plough.
The corn is waving and it's peaceful now,
But love undying still keeps me sighing,
My heart is crying for you alone.


Chorus
When the poppies bloom again I'll remember you.
There beside the river Seine, where we kissed Adieu.
When you told me not to cry, held me tenderly,
But that was our goodbye, you have gone from me.
My lonely footsteps stray where you must ever stay.
I place a sweet bouquet, a token of love.
Darling, till we meet again, I'll be ever true.
When the poppies bloom again, I'll remember you.

I live in memory of days gone by,
When love was everything to you and I.
I still remember love's glowing ember.
'Twas in December long, long ago.

Chorus


© 1939 Lee Towers, Morton Morrow, Don Pelasi


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: MMario
Date: 16 Jul 01 - 10:21 AM

goosebumps...And, as I suspected when the request came in, about loves and lives lost in war.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 04:47 PM

Refresh - did you see this McGrath?

Or does the fact that the lyrics were posted by a (god forbid!)'guest' irk you too much to be decent enough to say thanks?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 05:18 PM

Brilliant - the Mudcat triumphs again! Thank you Wila!

And as I've repeatedly said, I've no problem about people signing in as Guests, and nor does anyone ele that I have noticed, and there are all kionds of good reasons why people do it - it's the ones who don't sign in that get my goat, and that's purely because I can't tell one from the other, and there are no good reasons for doing it.

But let's not get into that, and spoil another brilliant result. Impressive words too.

I'll email Carol and give her the words, right now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 05:32 PM

Thanks, McGrath; hope you didn't think that last 'guest' was me!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Carol
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 01:25 PM

Just to say thanks to everyone who helped to find the Poppies for Griff. Ihope this works as I've not typed anything in here before so i@m probably one of the people Kevin was complaining (campaigning?) about!! Sorry

THANKS AGAIN


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 02:11 PM

Hi Carol - no you weren't - you put an identifying name in. (But it's worth registering - it's free, titally conbfidential and there are various useful extra features you get.)

I couldn't quite work out how the words fitted in with the midi that GUEST,Ed gave us the link to in the third post in this thread. I thinkm there must be a few repeats.

Now I'm looking forward to hearing you sing it some time.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Carol
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 08:49 AM

Sorry to disappoint you Kevin but this PC isn't geared up to play tunes - I am going to ask Griff to hum - no probably sing it so that I can record it (and him). Thanks again for all your help


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Carol
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 08:51 AM

I suppose you'd call that the Sharpe method of song collecting!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 02:04 PM

Then I'll hope to hear you sing it in person sometime, Carol.

Incidentally, here's a page I put together on one way how to get songs on the net - basically so that I could remind myself how I've done it. Mind, there are probably better and easier ways, and definitely people who know far more about it than me.)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 03:17 PM

Carol, the midi only gives the chorus, in any case. I could do an abc for you, if it would help. The only problem is that it would not be until next week now (I did make a copy of the notes, but can't find it!)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: Genie
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 03:01 PM

Why is this in "unanswered threads?" I thought the sought-after lyrics were those posted above?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Poppies' song
From: Genie
Date: 08 Oct 01 - 03:03 PM

As Gilda Radner's character Emily Latella (sp?) would say, Never mind."


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