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BS: Bear Encounters Part Two

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Subject: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:19 PM

Drat... I forgot to get the address for the previous thread. Back in a minute....


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:22 PM

Hope this works for you John... the first thread can be found here....

Click here


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:37 PM

Smiles

Just think LEJ, the damage that those bears would have done to your garden furniture. I just saved them the work.

The cultral differences we found such as asking for chips and getting a bag of cisps, deserves another thread.

We did see the insides of a 'Little Bear' however.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:52 PM

Last night when I came home, there was a mama bear and two cubs on the porch two houses away from my home. The cubs (this year's) were really cute little bundles of black fur and bright eyes but, sad to say, Mama was trying to make off with a bag of garbage that the homeowner had left out. And there comes the next generation of garbage bears...

If we people could learn to keep our garbage to ourselves, we wouldn't have a bear problem in Juneau. As we say here, 'A fed bear is a dead bear' but even now some people don't take it seriously.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 03:54 PM

And yet some people want to arm them. Tsk.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Arnie
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 04:04 PM

Don't know about black bears here in Kent, but my black cat Meg can get prettttyy nasty if she doesn't get Friskies on time!! Looking back at the tale of the monkey hung in Hartlepool, I remember hearing a song about this, I think Jez Lowe may have written it. I recall the chorus which went;-

"Young folk, old folk, everyone and each Come and see the Frenchie that's washed up on the beach With his two long arms and a tail of hair We think he is a spy so we've hung him in the square" And to think that this is a true story! Geordies still refer to hanging the monkey when they want to upset their neighbours down the coast!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: mousethief
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 04:07 PM

I imagine you mean the monkey HANGED in Hartlepool?

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 06:06 PM

Thanks gnu, I am using an internet box and it does not like big threads for some reason! I am hoping to get a proper computer eventually.john


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: rangeroger
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 12:10 AM

Deckman mentioned backpacking in the Olympic mountains.

In the Fall of 1980 I drove to the Olympics from San Diego in my 67 AH-Sprite.I had just gotten it running again after a major rebuild and was recovering from the loss of my one true love.She had run off with a mining engineer from Utah.

I parked the Sprite at the trail head up the Dosewallips River and proceeded out on my first solo backpack trip.Three days into the trip I was nearing the top of Anderson Pass and came to a place called Marmot Lake.It was perched on a bench several acres in size and was gorgeous.

I decided to spend the next day as a layover day and just enjoy the scenery.A doe and her fawn were around,(had to shoo them off the trail the day before so I could get by) and the lake was surrounded by acres of ripe blueberries.I figured it was time for a bath so I got my pan of water from the lake,dutifully moved 100 yards away from the lake,and proceeded to lather up and rinse off.Well, the sun felt so good,and I felt so refreshed I decided to continue to spend the rest of the day butt naked.I mean, there was no one around so it would be OK.

I also thought that those ripe bluberries would make a mighty fine dessert that evening if marinated in my supply of Grand Marnier.Conveniently stored in a plastic container in my backpack.So off I went picking blueberries,stark naked.After awhile of intense blueberry picking,I noticed something out of the corner of my eye.When I stood up and looked,it was a large black bear about 20-30 yards away from me.He stopped and stared at me and then went back to his blueberry picking.

It was an amazing sight to watch.I never realized how big a bears tongue is.This one was about 18 inches long,and he used it like a scythe.He would sweep his head to one side as he walked,and at the end of his sweep the tongue would slurp into his mouth with it's load of blueberries,then extend again as the head swept back the other direction.

I watched him for about 30-45 minutes as he and I both collected berries.

He finally disappeared into the woods and I poured Grand Marnier over my berries and let them soak all afternoon.

It was a grand dessert for a grand day.

rr

PS. His turds were huge and solid blue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Amos
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 01:22 AM

LOL!! Roger, that is the most remarkable image I have contemplated all day!!! INCLUDING the turds!!! What an encounter!!! LOL!!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Patrish(inactive)
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 04:55 AM

I have really enjoyed this thread.
We don't get bears roaming the countryside over here in the UK.
Patrish
PS I do have a very itchy back - perhaps I was a bear in a previous life!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 07:07 AM

Pretty funny Roger.
Yes bear turds are amazing. 7" pies without the crust. I was once on a long portage, sat down on a rock to take a rest and looked down beside me. There was a steaming fresh blueberry bear pie.

Bonnie


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 12:15 PM

When I was working at the wilderness lodge, one of my jobs was to go around in the complex with a shovel and dispose of the dried up bear turds. As long as they were whole and circular I left them for the titillation of the tourists.

The color and content of the scat changed with the vegetation and the type of berry the bears were eating as the season progressed.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 01:14 PM

The only Bear I've ever seen was called Bob, and he sang the Blues like no other Bear in the world. He died of a drug overdose in 1981. Canned Heat Fans forward please........


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: NightWing
Date: 10 Jul 01 - 07:29 PM

Although it happened to me, I have to tell my bear story second-hand. I was only one or two years old.

My folks tell me about going to Yellowstone when I was one or two (early '60's). Evidently Mom and Dad both turned around simultaneously in different parts of their campsite to see toddler-me CHASING a beer cub that had wandered by. Their differing reactions were unsurprising, knowing them. Dad came racing forward to grab me; Mom took a couple photos.

The first photo has me toddling toward the bear cub, which is scurrying away. You can just see my dad's hand entering the frame as he runs to scoop me up.

In the second, Dad has grabbed me up and is backing toward Mom (toward the car). In the background, the bear cub is running away just as fast as its little legs can move.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Until Mom and Dad change their minds. But the pics are there.

BB,
NightWing


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 06:55 PM

The timing of this thread was pretty good.

Since it started I have seen, on UK TV. A movie called The Edge, with Anthony Hopkins killing a rather unfriendy Kodiak bear with a sharpened twig.

A vet being taken close-up to bears and their cubs, by a very brave survivor of a grizzly attack. He had in effect half of his face eaten off but still seemed willing to approach them. They were suprised by another party, and were very lucky it was not the other way around. This was a programme on the world's most dangerous animals. There seems to be one rather serious omission to this list?

A soap star being filmed in Alaska, who I am sure would have reduced the grizzly population by one, with the gun supplied for his protection. If the bears had been foolish enough to appear anywhere near him. The huge fresh tracks close to his tent which terrified our hero, evidenced that they were about but, far too sensible to make an appearance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Gareth
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:11 PM

Shambles - I Can Picture it now on T.V.

On Station URSA "Dangerous Encounters"

A scared and old bear, carefully approaching a party of humans, telling his camera bear "never approach a human with a car, and a reversed baseball cap".

Baiting the photo opportunity with Pizza, and Budweiser !

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Rollo
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:52 PM

I was attacked by a bear in "Niendorf Gehege" zoo, near germany. And what a fiendish attack it was...

I do not know the english word for this race. In German they are named "Kragenbär" which describes their white "necklace". From somewhere in Asia I believe. They are not too big, smaller than the european brown bear. But it doesn´t matter anyway... this one is sitting in his corral, nearly lying on his back, all paws up, and grabs his legs with his forebaws. A very obscene sight, for you can study his rectum "en detail"... and then... you see it open... hear a little noise like "Puff"... and this shameless creature lets loose the most teriffic fart I ever smelled... Phee!


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Rollo
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 07:55 PM

It was near hamburg, in Germany of course. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 11 Jul 01 - 08:01 PM

Too funny Rollo! That was great! Its a Panda bear


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 01:04 AM

Or maybe a Sun Bear?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Deckman
Date: 12 Jul 01 - 07:40 AM

Hey, rangeroger, I know that hike well, I've done it many times. At the summit of Anderson pass have you ever taken the little detour to the North to see the view ... breathtaking. I have long suspected that the black bears in the Olympics are so calm because they've never been hunted, or even heard a gun. CHEERS< Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: The Shambles
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:11 PM

Did I read (or did I dream it), that Tiger Woods had a recent bear encounter in Alaska?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: GUEST,Lyle
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 09:40 PM

This is sooooo painful to bring up....

Like rangeroger, I had just had a refreshing bath in a wild Alaskan stream, then stepped out into the warm sunshine to dry off. I stood there a few minutes, and out of the brush came a HUGH grizzle bear. And...Oh, this is painful... and he had his way with me again... and again... and again for over an hour.

And as I write this, tears are forming in my eyes, because... because...

He never writes...

He never calls...


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 12:35 AM

Well just bite the bullet and write him!! Rots o' ruck...


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 01:47 AM

T. Shambles, just now I read in the paper (Dallas Morning News)that: "Never mind the hungry bear that chased Woods and Mark O'Meara across an Alaska river two months ago as they fished for salmon."

Do you have any idea of where that was? I suspect it was on the Kenai Peninsula, home of the giant Chinooks. (The biggest Chinook (king) salmon caught there measured something like 46 inches around the middle and weighed 96 pounds, I think. Down here a 50 pounder is a big one.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 10:18 AM

Refersh


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 10:31 AM

My family was visiting Yellowstone in the early 60's (1963 actually) and my parents were VERY strict about us not feeding the bears. We had seen disney's "Yellowstone cubs" earlier that summer - and happenned to run across one of the bears that had been in the film. so of course my Dad has to feed it. (set an example so he could say "do as I say, not as I do").

We retaliated by playing tag in the mudpot/geyser area where we weren't suppossed to even get off the boardwalk.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 10:43 AM

i am wondering, do we have any animals in the UK that you don't have in america?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 10:59 AM

Hedge hogs?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 11:27 AM

dormice

yellow necked mouse

Roe Deer

horseshoe bats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Deda
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 12:14 PM

Lords and ladies, dukes and duchesses, earls (what do you call a female earl? Earline??), peers of the realm. Also whatever they use to make Vegemite and that other gloopy stuff that you spread on bread over there. BG! ;o>


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 12:23 PM

the female equivilant of "Earl" is "Countess"


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 04:49 PM

So what's the female equivalent of "Count" then?


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 05:57 PM

Ooooooohhhh. Tempting for a backwoods boy from Kent County.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 06:32 PM

Aw, come on, gnu. Spill it already.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Jun 02 - 07:23 PM

Football Hooligins ???

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 02:14 PM

Yes, John...they have hedgehogs and soccer hooligans.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 04:53 PM

Sad but true:
While driving through Pennsylvania to visit my son at summer camp, a large bear ran right in front of me. I avoided it but the lady next to be was not so lucky. She broadsided it. We pulled over and ran to help her - forgetting that there was a somewhat angry bear on the side of the road. The bear took off into the woods presumably to die. The car was totalled. I still get teary over it. The Parks' people doubted they would find it alive.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 06:10 PM

The bears in the Smokey Mountains National Park recognize the ranger uniforms and hats and patrol vehicles. Despite how dangerous it is to get out and feed the bears, tourists do it all of the time. And then have the affrontery to get pissed off when a ranger drives by--because when the bears see rangers, they run away.

Like Rangeroger I've also shared a clearing (in the Cascades of Washington) with a blueberry eating black bear. Neither of us wanted to give up our patch, and we didn't crowd each other. I've seen them use their paws like rakes, and by running the paw along the branch pull the leaves and berries off and straight into the mouth.

The bear scat I've seen has been in campgrounds when blueberries weren't on the diet. It's usually glossy black, stringy, and the size of charcoal briquettes. A major part of their diet in the North Cascades is salal, a small evergreen understory shrub, in the rhododendron family. Once in the campground, they seem to favor fruit in the trash, in particular they LOVE canteloupe. I'd find the rinds (they don't eat the green part, just like us) with the scoring from those little top from teeth where they scrape out all of the ripe fruit people leave behind. We had a bear trap set up with salmon for bait at Colonial Creek Campground (in the Ross Lake NRA in the North Cascades of Washington). It wasn't working, and I suggested adding the canteloupe, and it worked straight off. Too bad, acutally, because the trap was a prototype and the bear was injured when he turned and attacked the rebar grate that closed behind him. After that they made it solid, because he broke his teeth off attacking the rebar. Sad, sad to see.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: MMario
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 01:10 AM

Carol - the female equivilant of "count" is "countess" - but as I understand it there are no English Counts - the equivilant rank is Earl.


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: CarolC
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 01:20 AM

Hmmm... I think they could have done much better than that.

Since the female equivalent of "Earl" is "Countess", I think the female equivalent of "Count" should be "Earlene".


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 02:36 AM

I knew an Earlene once, but she was a no-account. . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: GUEST,Dan Haggerty
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 03:16 AM

For human bears who got here via a search engine this is a music site :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Bear Encounters Part Two
From: SINSULL
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 11:17 AM

PROOF:
"The bear went over the mountain.
THe bear went over the mountain.
The bear went over the mountain
And what do you think he saw?..."


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