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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 08 Sep 15 - 11:08 PM

Lyr Req: The Butcher's Apron (Irish Rebel) answered
RE: Lyr Req: Cabbages, Cabeans and Carrots answered
I would also call Lyr Req: Camp Meeting in July (Jerry Correll) answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 06 Sep 15 - 11:36 PM

GUEST,Colin may have answered Chord Req: Bring the Peace (Mary McLaughlin) in 2012
Lyr Req: A Bum, A Jolly Good Bum may be answered
Lyr Req: I'm bungee jumping by keith donnelly answered
RE: Lyr Req: Bush Telegraph (John Williamson) was answered by GUEST
Lyr/Chords Req: Bush Barber, etc (John Williamson) answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 28 Aug 15 - 03:15 PM

Lyr Req: The Barque Favell answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 27 Aug 15 - 06:06 AM

Tune Req: Black Bottom Strut (Instrumental) answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 21 Aug 15 - 11:33 AM

Lyr Req: Bold Irish men? / Jolly Irishmen may be answered, but it's hard to tell with how little info the original poster gave
Lyr Req: Leftish Parody on 'Lincolnshire Poacher' possibly answered
ADD: The Boonie Rat Song (Viet Nam War)-chords? answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 21 Aug 15 - 12:48 AM

Lyr Req: between here and sunset answered
Lyr Req: Blaina Boys 1930 (Huw Williams) was answered by RamblinStu in 2012
Lyr Req: Blood on Our Land (Irish rebel song) answered
    Cleared, but I had to fix the transcription of "Blaina Boys 1930." It's no use marking something cleared until it's a decent transcription and properly formatted. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 11:37 AM

Lyr Req: Big Dick (Cheney) answered
RE: Lyr Req: Bill the Quill? / Willie the Pen? was answered by GUEST,Evan johnson in 2013
Lyr Req: Billy Muggins + Rolling Round the World answered
    Cleared. Thanks for these. - Joe Offer


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 01:14 AM

I'd prefer to do the HTML on the title, cnd. That's my sign that the song has been reviewed. It does help, however, if you have ADD and the song title (in title case) in the message title box, and then the title in ALLCAPS above the lyrics, followed on the next line by the songwriter name in parentheses, then a blank line, then the lyrics, then any notes and source info.

If you transcribe a song, tell us that you did so and tell us what you transcribed from. If it's in a publication, give us the title. If from a Website, give the URL of the Website.

One early stage of the Rise Again songbook was the collection of lyrics after the committee had built a list of songs to be included in the book. One volunteer programmed a "bot" to roam the Internet and collect the lyrics. Then other volunteers added chords to the lyrics. When I got to the project, the lyrics and chords were reportedly finished. I looked at the lyrics, and found they were awful. That's the usual quality of lyrics on the Internet. That's why we like source-documented lyrics here at Mudcat. No use perpetuating mistakes if the source is crummy.

I promise I will get to work on clearing these, but I'd better get back to work on the Rise Again Songbook. I haven't seen a copy yet, but I understand it's out or almost out (scheduled for Sept 1). I'm working on the supporting Website, which will have links to YouTube recordings and online information about all the songs.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 20 Aug 15 - 12:08 AM

Lyr Req: The Bear (Andy May) answered
Lyr Req: Another 'Swaledale' song was answered by Mick Pearce in 2012
Lyr Req: Songs about Beeching's Cuts has been both answered on its thread since 2010 and answered (a year prior) here
Lyr Req: Ben Kenobi Nobi (Les Barker parody) answered in 2014 by Long Firm Freddie
Lyr Req: The Berry Tree (Saul Chaplin) may have been answered in 2013.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 05:00 PM

Lyr Req: Bar Room Crystal Ball (from Hot Tuna) answered
Lyr Req: Barbecue in Heaven answered
GUEST.Mike Fiddle's requeston on Lyr/Chords Req: Corries songs asking for the lyrics to "The Barge o' Gorrie Crovan" should be removed from the "Unanswered" section, as there is already a page on that song here: thread.cfm?threadid=31829
RE: Lyr Req: Barren Rocks of Aden may have been answered by Rumncoke back in 2013.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 12:28 PM

Sorry Joe; I'll try and do better in the future. Much of the time I don't have that information, though. Most of the time, I hand-transcribe them from Youtube videos or audio clips. I'll try and go back and fill in some of my holes. I have tried doing the title like you like before, but every time I try that, it ends up with a huge hole between the title line and artist info below it. Which HTML thing should I type to get it the right way?


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 02:35 AM

I guess I don't think of this Unanswered Requests database as often as I should. When I see somebody has posted to the PermaThread, I go to each song, make sure it's formatted and labeled correctly, and clear the database and this thread. But I've been working fulltime on the Rise Again songbook for the last year, so I got behind. And I don't just check the song off the database and forget it. I try to review and reformat every song before clearing it.

CND, it's very important for you to document your source for these lyrics. Did you find it in a book, transcribe it from a recording - which book, which recording? Did you find it on a Website?

Who's the songwriter?

Is there any background information?

It's not only important to gather lyrics in a hurry. It's also essential that we learn source information so we can ensure the accuracy of the lyrics.

Thanks.

-Joe-

Here's a guide for formatting lyrics you post, so that they're in the standard Mudcat format: http://mudcat.org/detail.cfm?messages__Message_ID=2691343

The songs may or may not be added to the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database - that's up to Dick and Susan. I try to make sure that the songs have ADD and the song title in the title of the message where the lyrics are posted. I also have a distinctive way of formatting the title once I've proofed the lyrics and found the most credible lyrics postings on a song. If the message title is properly formatted, it's easy to find songs in the Old Advanced Forum Search, found in the QuickLinks dropdown menu on every Mudcat page.
If songs are posted and titled properly, they are immediately available in the Forum to anyone who searches for them with the Old Advanced Forum Search. It takes time for posts to be indexed for the main search engine, but they're immediately available in the old search.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 12:55 AM

' Thanks. My guess is that they don't truly consider it "answered" unless you actually copy/paste the lyrics onto there or transcribe them yourself. '

Not quite. As an example, 'A Man Can't Grow Old' was requested first requested 30 Aug 00. The lyrics were located 13 Sep 12. It still shows in Unanswered Requests. People just don't have the time. [OK - Joe-]


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,999
Date: 19 Aug 15 - 12:06 AM

The situation is a bit more complicated than that, cnd. It's not a lack of will. It's a lack of time. There were app. 2000 URs going by a memory that is years old. A rough estimate would be about 1700 of them still outstanding, with a few hundred located but needing placement because they have been found. It's not that the folks here don't care. It's that the admin just don't have the time to file stuff away.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 11:51 PM

Thanks. My guess is that they don't truly consider it "answered" unless you actually copy/paste the lyrics onto there or transcribe them yourself. That's at least the bar I've been using. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to greatly reduce/stop soon.

Lyr Req: Back to Donegal (Rory McLeod) answered
Lyr Req: Ballad of Gordy Ross (Ted Longbottom) was answered by GUEST
Origins: The Ballad of Soapy Smith (Al Oster) has been answered since 1998! I don't see any lyrics! -Joe Offer-
Lyr Req: Bangtail Muster answered [OK -Joe- ]


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 08:55 PM

The unanswered request area needs tending to. About two years ago I spent weeks looking and was able to find or develop good leads (ie., on YT or videos, sites, etc) for a minimum of 150-170 URs, but nothing happened with any of them so I stopped. However, I applaud what you're doing.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 05:35 PM

RE: Lyr Req: The Babyl of New Kuwait (The Pheromones) answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 02:39 PM

Lyr Req: THE ARCHITECT (Paddy Roberts) was answered back in 2008
Lyr Req: Are Yew Alright Bor (Allan Smethurst) was mostly answered in 2013, but I filled in the few wholes to the lyrics
Lyr Req: The Australian Dream (Gallager & Lyle) answered


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 01:58 PM

Lyr Req: Anne Marie and Jean Pierre (Smothers Bros has been answered for a couple of years, and Lyr Req: Follow the Blackbird (Gaberlunzie) has also been answered.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 01:31 PM

Unanswered requests:

Unknown Title Song by AL Bluegrass Boys
Song: Some Frogs Jump One Foot
Tune Req: Its Written inthe Bible my Daddy Gave Me


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 18 Aug 15 - 12:17 AM

Lyr Req: All Roads Converge (Anita Silvert) answered [OK-Joe]
Lyr Req: Alone and Broke in Birmingham answered [OK-Joe]
Lyr Req: Anthem (Hello People) answered [OK-Joe]
Lyr Req: Antique Annie's Magic Lantern Show answered [OK-Joe]
Lyr Req: Antiwar song answered (and I suggest changing the name to reflect the discovery of its true name--The Ballad of Eugene Pratt by Mason Proffit [OK-Joe - actually by John Michael Talbot and Terry Talbot]


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 17 Aug 15 - 05:09 PM

Lyr Req: After the Fact (Kristofferson/Coolidge) answered
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: cnd
Date: 17 Aug 15 - 04:53 PM

Lyr Req: Abbeyleix answered
OK, but I really need people to document the source where they got the lyrics. -Joe Offer-, Mudcat Music Editor-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Gda Music
Date: 31 Dec 11 - 06:32 PM

Lyric request: Michael Fagan answered.
    I'm not sure we have the right song yet, so I'll leave that request on the "unanswered" list. We do have one song about the incident, and link to a video of another.
    -Joe Offer, Mudcat Music Editor


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: MartinRyan
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 05:33 PM

Link to video of "Boys of Fairhill" posted to supply tune.

Boys of Fairhill"


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:51 AM

Another one down:
Feed The Children (Bogle)

Prosit!
Nigel
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:39 AM

The Ferryman's daughter (Donovan) has been done.

Skol
Nigel
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:31 AM

This one's also found its station:
Fast train out of Texas

Slainte
Nigel
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:29 AM

Similarly Farmer on a bike

Cheers
Nigel
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:21 AM

Likewise Everybody knows me in my old brown hat

Cheers
OK -Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Jun 11 - 10:14 AM

Lyrics for Decimalisation posted in 2008.

Cheers
Nigel<
OK -Joe- (proofed, formatted, and cleared from the unanswered requests database)


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 13 May 10 - 05:16 AM

Ditto The Old Ways of Dublin /Inchicore Wake
Got it - Mod


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 13 May 10 - 05:01 AM

Ditto Murder of Joe Frawley?
Got it - Mod


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:56 AM

Ditto An Deirc/Olaim Puins
Got it - Mod


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:54 AM

Ditto Danny Doogan's Jubilee
Got it - Mod


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 13 May 10 - 04:52 AM

Chantal du Champignon is listed as unfinished - but is in fact complete.
Got it - Mod


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Subject: RE: PermaThread� Unanswered Requests
From: GUEST,Larry Saidman
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:01 AM

I answered the lyric and chord request for Gnostic Serenade
    Got it. Thanks, Larry. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Melissa
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 06:16 AM

It's been quite a while since I requested words for "Puppy in the Bottom of the Pot".
Can it be added to the list?


Thanks,
Melissa
    Added. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Mar 10 - 04:27 PM

Looks like there are some songs to clean up in our Unanswered Requests database. I've been working on the database today. The database is in our QuickLinks dropdown menu, which is on almost every Mudcat page. Take a look through the database and see if there are any requests you can answer. If you can't find the lyrics in print or online, think about doing a transcription from a recording. If you start on a song, others may join in and help.
If a songs to be added to the "unanswered" database, or if a request in the database has been answered, post a message here to let me know.
If a request is only a few days old or if it has been answered, we don't add it to the database. The database is just for old unanswered requests.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 10:47 AM

The Finney Brown question was answered in the Finn & Haddie CD thread.

Barry


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Subject: RE: PermaThreadï™ Unanswered Requests
From: maeve
Date: 12 Sep 07 - 08:17 AM

This seems to have been answered.

Hawks and Eagles

maeve


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 10:08 AM

The following seem to have been answered:

Girl In The Very Tight Hat (73389)
Hawks And Eagles (744) is in DT
The King's Shilling (63774)
The Last Fisherman (65687) (posted in the thread by the John Heslop, the author)
No, No, A Thousand Times No (68924) (though Years And Years And Years in same thread remains unanswered, and should stay on the list)
The Tall Tale (Pouring whiskey down the sink) (65482) - this was answered in thread: hamish imlach (and elsewhere - links are not current on this one)


The Kestrel (39716) - Bob Hambleton (Mudcat: Hovering Bob), the author, emailed the words to the requestor but didn't post them.
The Suicide Arms (61788) - Leadfingers was going to post words, but didn't. Snuffy probably has them too by now.



Mick


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 01:58 AM

Merle Haggard's "Tulare Dust" added


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 11:53 PM

Norman Blake - "Lincoln's Funeral Train" added


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 11:10 PM

Lyrics to "Let's Chase Each Other `Round the Room Tonight" added.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 07 - 10:49 PM

Lyrics to Hoyt Axton's "Goin' to Heaven in a Flash of Fire" posted.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jul 07 - 04:44 PM

Merle - your Kristofferson request was moved here (click)


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 08:54 PM

The "Run On" request has been answered, Joe.


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Jun 07 - 06:18 PM

To Jay - your request for "Run On" has been moved here (click).
-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-


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Subject: RE: PermaThread™ Unanswered Requests
From: Pilgrim
Date: 24 May 07 - 09:50 AM

Lyrics added to the "Get Off The Gas Stove Granny" thread


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