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Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates

pavane 17 Jul 01 - 11:15 AM
MMario 18 Jul 01 - 11:00 AM
pavane 18 Jul 01 - 11:56 AM
Ringer 18 Jul 01 - 12:16 PM
GUEST,Ian Clegg 27 Jan 09 - 01:45 PM
Sooz 27 Jan 09 - 03:16 PM
pavane 28 Jan 09 - 10:00 AM
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pavane 28 Jan 09 - 10:02 AM
GUEST,Edthefolkie 28 Jan 09 - 10:05 AM
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Subject: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 17 Jul 01 - 11:15 AM

Some years ago, I heard someone sing a song called Nottingham Gates, which I believe is a modern song about the town of Nottingham. (Gates, in this context are streets, not doorways). Anyone ever heard of it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: MMario
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:00 AM

Didn't find anything on a goodle search. Any lyric snippets that might help?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 11:56 AM

None at all, I am afraid. After thinking about it, it may have been written by the couple who sang it, and if so, is unpublished.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: Ringer
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 12:16 PM

Are there any "gates" in Nottingham? Chesterfield, Sheffield & York are full of 'em, but I don't remember, from a childhood near Nottingham, any gates. But I'm probably mistaken.


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Subject: Lyr Add: NOTTINGHAM GATES
From: GUEST,Ian Clegg
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 01:45 PM

Here it is ...


NOTTINGHAM GATES

1. In Wheeler Gate a hand I lent
With a blunt spoke shave to the bench was sent,
E'er one day had passed I could plainly see
This was no place for me.

2. In Barker Gate there leather was tanned
And I hammered sheepskin with me own right hand,
But the burning gorse made such a foul reek
I were out that place in a week.

CHORUS: Unto Wheeler, Barker, Carter, Lister,
Fletcher, Fisher Gates I've strayed,
Been an arrowman, a leatherman, lace I've made
For I am a Nottingham jack of all trades.

3. In Carter Gate made bottles of glass
But there's hardly room for a man to pass,
For carts full of coal roll by all day,
So from there I made me way.

4. To Lister Gate I went after that
Carried yards of cloth to the boiling vat,
With scar and dye me hands turned blue
So I left wi'out more ado.

CHORUS

5. In Fletcher Gate, there arrows were made
And the grey goose feathers all around were laid,
They went up me nose and they made me sneeze,
I were out that place with speed.

6. Our pike and trout from the Trent it came
To Fisher Gate, which had no drain!
I pegged up me nose till I made it sore,
I'll never go there no more.

Chorus
    Tentative attribution from a message below: The song itself is credited to "Hemlock Stone" (a sandstone outcrop in Bramcote). Apparently Hemlock Stone were Richard and Diane Ball, Val Wheeler, and Michael Pidcot.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: Sooz
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:16 PM

I remember this song from about 1970 - I had an LP with it on (made with contibutions from all of the folk clubs in the area)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:00 AM

Took a long time, but here it is! Thanks for that.

Still no composer though?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:00 AM


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:02 AM

Oops - pressed send too soon, sorry for blank posting

The couple who sang it in Dubai c1979 were Richard and Diane Ball.
(As far as I know, they are still there)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:05 AM

Well done Ian, somebody else remembers that song. It's rather good - as Sooz says it was on an album called Folk Nottingham Style which I have just found in a dusty corner!

The album may have been part funded by The Nottingham Festival which was a doomed attempt by Nottingham to do an Edinburgh. The song itself is credited to "Hemlock Stone" (a sandstone outcrop in Bramcote). Apparently Hemlock Stone were Richard and Diane Ball, Val Wheeler, and Michael Pidcot. No doubt they are still around - heads up anybody?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:08 AM

Sorry I missed the bit about two of 'em being in Dubai, must fire up my anti ageing program.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: pavane
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 11:37 AM

Richard and Diane Ball were founder members of Dubai-Sharjah Morris in 1977, and were active there in the folk clubs at the time.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: Sooz
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 12:42 PM

Thanks for that - I'll stop looking for the album!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Nottingham Gates
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 04:08 PM

The names that you mention are not, as far as I am aware, active on the current Nottingham folk scene; however it might be an idea to PM Roy Harris (burl) in case he has missed this thread as he certainly was around Nottingham at that time and might have had some input into the festival.


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