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BS: Archer jailed for perjury

smallpiper 19 Jul 01 - 04:07 PM
GeorgeH 19 Jul 01 - 02:24 PM
GUEST,Neil 19 Jul 01 - 02:20 PM
Gareth 19 Jul 01 - 02:14 PM
Ralphie 19 Jul 01 - 01:48 PM
mousethief 19 Jul 01 - 01:46 PM
nutty 19 Jul 01 - 01:42 PM
Ralphie 19 Jul 01 - 01:03 PM
alanabit 19 Jul 01 - 01:00 PM
English Jon 19 Jul 01 - 12:54 PM
alanabit 19 Jul 01 - 12:53 PM
GeorgeH 19 Jul 01 - 12:52 PM
TamthebamfraeScotland 19 Jul 01 - 12:44 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM
Fiolar 19 Jul 01 - 12:34 PM
GUEST,alanabit 19 Jul 01 - 12:34 PM
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pavane 19 Jul 01 - 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: smallpiper
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 04:07 PM

SO I take it no one likes litle lord Jeff! I think it would be really good if he and not we had to pay for his time inside and I'm talking £'s here afterall he is loaded (and not just by the block daddy!!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GeorgeH
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 02:24 PM

Ah! A beautiful, rare moment of unanimity (?sp?) on Mudcat . . I always thought Archer was good for nothing, but now I know better . .

G'night all, I'm off home . . (Bought two new CDs last saturday and haven't even played them yet.

George


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GUEST,Neil
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 02:20 PM

Ah Joy! Right thinking folk always thought he was an odious wee shite! He has always been particularly unpopular up here in Scotland for some of his more absurd and xenophobic rantings....and for being a Tory bastard as well!

Maybe M'Lud will get some new story ideas when 'big Bobby the block daddy''touches base' with him in the jail tonight......couldn't happen to a nastier, slimy little turd.

NEIL


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Gareth
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 02:14 PM

As much as I share the Nations joy over the banging up of Lord Archer of Weston-Super-Mare I do think that the suggestion that he should be tried for crimes against litriture over the top. I mean it would be cruel and inhumane for a jury of 12 to read his novels.

Still you never know - we might get "The ballard of Ford Open Prison" out of it.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Ralphie
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:48 PM

How do spell "SIR" nutty???
"CUR" perhaps ? R


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:46 PM

Yeah, but we all know what knighthood is worth any more.

Alex
but nobody was really sure if he was from the House of Lords...


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: nutty
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:42 PM

Latest news is that he's going to appeal and that it's unlikely that he will have his knighthood rescinded even if he does serve time in prison.
So he will still expect to be called SIR.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Ralphie
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:03 PM

Much as I concur wholeheartedly !!!
I don't think I've ever seen so many rude words on one thread!!
Ralphie
Anyway, he's just about to contract "Altzheimers" disease,apparently.... be miraculously cured on Monday, and be out by next weekend....!


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: alanabit
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:00 PM

Now you're talking...


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: English Jon
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:54 PM

Well, it's a start. Now to get Thatch for the Belgrano.

EJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: alanabit
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:53 PM

I don't like Archer or his party either. The fact that you or I would have been punished more severely is hardly justification for spending large sums of public money on humiliating a man who does not endanger us. Jonathon Aitken was a different class of criminal. The bottom line of his story is that the man was a "weapon sales connsultant" - I prefer term "gun runner", to some of the more unlovely Arab dictators. That really does give me the creeps.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GeorgeH
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:52 PM

Sadly, McGrath, I fear you are right again . .

Sequestration of his lovely mansion in Granchester would have been far more effective . .

However I can't say I feel there's much wrong with the sentence, after all Perverting TCoJ could include obtaining a false verdict in a murder trial . .

And I reckon a spell in the squalor enjoyed by "guests of her majesty" would be good for all our politicians, since they seem to think there's nothing amiss with our prisons . . except, as McG again points out, he's unlikely to be in one of those prisons . .

G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: TamthebamfraeScotland
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:44 PM

Archer, that shit. I'm glad that he's been put away for 4 years. Mind you he'll proberly get out in two, even so that better than being found not guilty.

I really feel sorry for his fellow prisoners, what more punishment. They'll all be saying get us out of here.

As you can tell I really don't like shitty Archer very much or the party that he belongs too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:38 PM

Hope that doesn't mean he has time to write more novels...

Oh but it does. Lots and lots more time. And short stories. And plays. And an autobiography. And lots of new material to put into them.

And he'll probably be in an open prison with a computer with internet access. He could turn up here. God, he might start writing songs...

And when he comes out he'll be all over the place. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

And the thing is, I doubt very much if, in the context of the rest of his cronies in politics, he's unusually crooked. If he was a Yank I think there's a high chance he'd be in a governor's mansion. Or maybe the White House.

I'm sure that in a popularity poll in a year or so, he'll probably score higher than most other politicians. Higher than Tony Blair or George Bush anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Fiolar
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:34 PM

BBC interviewed several of his friends whose attitude is "that he is a rogue, but you have to like him." Bollocks. I think he is an obnoxious little spiv. I wonder if an ordinary member of the public had committed the same offences as Archer whether he/she would have got away with four years. Make that about 18 months to 2 years and he'll be out for "good behaviour." Remember that other "pillar of the community" Jonathan Aitken?


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GUEST,alanabit
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:34 PM

Archer was a member of the most vindictive, selfish and callous government of my lifetime. I can forgive him the rotten novels, because I don't have to read them and I have not always written things of unchallengeable quality myself! He was probably as guilty as Hell. I care nothing about his sexual adventures, because they are none of my damned business. It is rare for our over privileged judiciary to punish one of their own, so Lord Jeffrey may feel a little aggrieved this evening. Having said that, I can derive no pleasure from hearing that anyone who presents no actual physical danger to myself, my kin or my friends is being locked up in a slum with a chamber pot. It may satisfy some desire for retribution, but it is unlikely to make him a better man or have any lasting effect on our system. To quote the most atavistic Home Secretary of recent years (the only hanger in fact) "Prison is an expensive way of making bad people worse".


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Grab
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM

Profile of the weasel in question from the BBC.

Can we throw in a charge of Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Literature?

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:29 PM

Thanks for the link, Gervase!

Ewwww, what a slimeball! I see why y'all are so pleased with his conviction!

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Gervase
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:09 PM

It's made my day!

Who'd have thought that Schadenfreude could be quite such fun!!!!!
For those who want to know more, click here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:55 AM

Can someone please provide a little background?

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Fiolar
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:55 AM

No doubt like so many more he'll find Christ in the confines of her Majesty's lock-up. A long time resident of the Old Vicarage, Granchester, I wonder if he is echoing tonight the words of one of the previous residents, Rupert Brooke - "...would I were in Granchester, in Granchester!" Four Years! It's farcical really, seeing as how one could get life for perverting the course of justice, which Archer together with perjury was found guilty of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GeorgeH
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:54 AM

Arch fornicating bastard of the Tory party and popular author of apalling novels . .

Oh, and a liar . .

He's just been convicted of Perjury and Conspiracy to Pervert the Course of Justice . . this relates to a case where he sued a newspaper for Libel . . the newspaper was telling the truth, and Archer presented a totaly bogus version of events to the court.

G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GeorgeH
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:50 AM

Yup, pavane, that was exactly the reaction round our office. Someone suggest the Islamic punishment of amputation of the hands might be appropriate but I'm afraid I'm too squeamish . .

I note he will remain a member of the House of Lords. Which is, of course, the highest Court of Law in the land. So "perverting the course of justice" it seems is no impedement to remaining a member of our "Supreme Court".

(OK, I know ordinary members of the HofL don't take part in its "Court of Law" functions . . )

G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: mousethief
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:50 AM

Who is this Jeff Archer who has created this tempest-in-a-teapot? Inquiring minds west of the Atlantic want to know!

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: pavane
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:40 AM

Hope that doesn't mean he has time to write more novels...


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Louisa
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:22 AM

four years apparently

Louisa


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GUEST,JohnL
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:12 AM

Yes, but he still gets away with the novels!


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Subject: RE: BS: Archer jailed for perjury
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:12 AM

It's hard to put an unnamed guest as anything!

Anyway, I hope the news is true - how long did he get?

Jon


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Subject: Archer jailed for perjury
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:08 AM

Now, don't put me down as being horrid or vindictive...

But, this news really made my day!

Jeffrey's going to prison, tra la la la la!

Restores my faith (a bit) in British Justice :-)


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