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BS: Farewell To Mudcat

Gareth 21 Jul 01 - 07:45 PM
Kernow John 21 Jul 01 - 06:57 PM
GUEST,SharonA at the library 21 Jul 01 - 04:56 PM
Dharmabum 20 Jul 01 - 10:23 PM
GUEST 20 Jul 01 - 10:05 PM
Mrrzy 20 Jul 01 - 09:49 PM
Malcolm Douglas 20 Jul 01 - 09:42 PM
The Shambles 20 Jul 01 - 04:23 PM
Linda Kelly 20 Jul 01 - 03:45 PM
SDShad 20 Jul 01 - 02:44 PM
Don Firth 20 Jul 01 - 01:41 PM
Rick Fielding 20 Jul 01 - 01:18 PM
GUEST 20 Jul 01 - 01:05 PM
GeorgeH 20 Jul 01 - 12:56 PM
Roger in Sheffield 20 Jul 01 - 12:51 PM
Kim C 20 Jul 01 - 12:33 PM
wysiwyg 20 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM
Bill D 20 Jul 01 - 10:16 AM
Mark Clark 20 Jul 01 - 10:08 AM
GUEST 20 Jul 01 - 09:42 AM
Naemanson 20 Jul 01 - 09:10 AM
MMario 20 Jul 01 - 09:00 AM
MudGuard 20 Jul 01 - 08:26 AM
MudGuard 20 Jul 01 - 08:22 AM
McGrath of Harlow 20 Jul 01 - 07:57 AM
gnu 20 Jul 01 - 07:21 AM
bill\sables 20 Jul 01 - 06:42 AM
catspaw49 20 Jul 01 - 06:36 AM
okthen 20 Jul 01 - 05:44 AM
Llanfair 20 Jul 01 - 05:03 AM
GUEST,Patrish 20 Jul 01 - 04:42 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 20 Jul 01 - 04:05 AM
BlueJay 20 Jul 01 - 03:43 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 20 Jul 01 - 03:38 AM
Geoff the Duck 20 Jul 01 - 03:24 AM
Wolfgang 20 Jul 01 - 03:09 AM
nutty 20 Jul 01 - 02:30 AM
Hawker 20 Jul 01 - 02:24 AM
Big Mick 20 Jul 01 - 01:40 AM
Lonesome EJ 20 Jul 01 - 01:30 AM
CarolC 20 Jul 01 - 12:37 AM
blt 20 Jul 01 - 12:34 AM
Lyrical Lady 20 Jul 01 - 12:15 AM
Amergin 20 Jul 01 - 12:10 AM
alison 20 Jul 01 - 12:10 AM
bobbi 19 Jul 01 - 11:59 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 07:45 PM

"For it's fare thee well my own true site
Mudcat Members, fare thee well,
For I'am bound to log in as a Guest,
And your losses, can only swell.

Ch

So fare the well the Mudcat site,
When I return united we shall be,
It's not the leaving of Mudcat that grieves me,
It's the friends that I know so well.

I am bound for some quiet thinking time,
Round the back of the Happisburgh Shoal,{*)
And I'll think of Blogg of Cromer fame, {#}
And, perchance, sing the songs to his name.

I have gone to do my own thoughts,
No trolls or flamers bother me,
I can watch the bad threads from afar
Rise up and fall like a shooting star.

{*} Get a chart, or the sailing directions for the Norfolk Coast
{#} Henry Blogg - a very gallant man, see the threads on Lifeboats, RNLI, Songs about the lifeboat disaster 1886??.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Kernow John
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 06:57 PM

Farewell Jon
May your strings ever ring true, we'll miss you.
KJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST,SharonA at the library
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 04:56 PM

Jon, I'm very sorry to hear that you're going. I hope it won't be for long.

SharonA


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Dharmabum
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 10:23 PM

Later,Jon.

DB.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 10:05 PM

Another one bites the dust. Bye.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:49 PM

Aw Jon, I'll miss you, all the best, please check back sometime! Even if you don't stay...


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:42 PM

Jon will be much missed here.  A lot of what he's done of late has been in the background and not immediately obvious, but it's been a great deal more important than a lot of people might realise.  The Mudcat will be a poorer place without him, and I, too, hope that he may in time feel like coming back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: The Shambles
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:23 PM

Goodbye Jon.

I trust you will be like me and once you leave you will not come back.

But as you have left you be able to read this.

And I have left, I won't be able to write this either

Never say never

Never

Lend us a tenor before you go...........


I don't really want to refresh the thread and my edit button has not gone yet so I'll put it here - Thanks for the comments and thoughts. I'm sure I'll be back some time or other to ask for info/ help and will bump into a some of you here or there whenever. I won't be checking PMs or reading regularly from now - Jon. Oh and I have forgotton to give a couple of people my email address - it is jonbanjo@freeuk.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:45 PM

John, just think of Mudcat as a kind of cyber Coronation Street, the majority of the time it is so good you forget its a soap and then a really naff storyline comes along and you switch it off promising never to return. then the whisper goes around that Ken Barlow is having an affair with Norris from the Post Office and you have to switch on again!(Sorry non UKers for the analogy) Well the last couple of weeks, we've lost the plot a little, but good plots will come again and if we didn't have the bad tmes how would we know the good ones -and if that doesn't convince you then please don't go WHO AM I GOING TO TALK TO ABOUT THE CRICKET !!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: SDShad
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:44 PM

Cheers, Jon. You'll always be welcome at this table. We won't change the locks while yer gone, in case you ever do decide to wander back, even if it's just for a brief visit. If you don't ever wander back this way, then this day realize that you leave with the good will and gratitude of a whole hell of a lot of Mudcatters.

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 01:41 PM

Jon, I just discovered this thread, having come a little bit ago from another thread where Ed Pellow (aka Zebedee) said that he was leaving. I posted this comment to him, and thought it may also be applicable to you. I don't know. In any case, do what you feel is best for you. I will miss your incisive comments.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 01:18 PM

All the best Jon. Keep on pickin'.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 01:05 PM

When the guests come of the shadows to lament the departure of one of the pillars of Mudcatville, take heart - for you know you'd done something right while you were here....

Safe journey.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GeorgeH
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:56 PM

Jon,

I regret, very much, your departure, and expecially the fact that my bad temper may well have contributed to the recent nastiness which seems to have prompted it.

Your contributions have been intellegent and valuable.

I hope you'll be back, bur regardless of that I offer you my very sincere and very best wishes.

George


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:51 PM

Thanks for the help, the mazurkas, and being a really nice bloke. Wish you would reconsider and just spend less time here rather than up and leave

I am fairly worried though as I think I read that you have left the valleys and mountains of wales for the terrible flatness of Norfolk {{shudder}}
I just hope that spaw is right and you now have a real life unlike the rest of us *BG*
.......am I talkin to myself here have you already gone????


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Kim C
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:33 PM

Come visit. Don't you and I both have September birthdays?

Cheers---

Kim


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Subject: Letters from PY (edited version)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:30 PM

Kevin-- no, this:

Subject: RE: Help: Illinois/Chicago Songs
From: WYSIWYG
Date: 24-Jan-01 - 03:31 PM

Sigh....... homesick, again.

At the Barbarossa folk club, many latenight conversations between pros and reg'lars turned upon the concept that people talked about leaving Chicago, and sometimes did.... couldn't WAIT to leave that GODDAMN PLACE, they'd say.... and sometimes did.... but... they always came back.

You could really think you had left... and sometimes did... but you knew, in those conversations, that it didn't matter who was talking or being talked about... who had left or just come back... it was accepted with some degree of bitter acknowledgement that one would, inevitably, be back.

You'd wish the one announcing impending departure all the best, say goodbyes sounding like forever, and then grin a twisted grin. That LOOK would pass between youse two, because... everyone knows Denial is just a river in Egypt.

The wind drives the place into your blood, and the tides of the lake pull from far, far away. Living in Chicago-- it's the booze in your hand as well as the 12-step program you have to maintain to live.

So when you are gone from it--whether you were "from" there or had just BECOME "from" there--it was home, and the scent and touch of being there can come over you of a sudden. You ain't left at all.

You're stuck with it! Cuz like it or not, you just gotta love Chicago!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 10:16 AM

.............there are so few words....you have been one of the voices of reason and sanity I could depend on.

Come see me some day....


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Mark Clark
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 10:08 AM

Jon, I hate to see you go but that's just because I'll miss your input. "A man's got to do what a man's got to do." I can understand.

Mudcat doesn't need to be a personal identity or a total commitment. Like the rest of the world, it doesn't always live up to its potential. Still, a bunch of us would like to hear from you from time to time if it wouldn't violate your own conscience.

Take care,

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:42 AM

Well, if you'll still be in uk.music.folk, at least some of us will continue to benefit from your on-line presence!


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Naemanson
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:10 AM

Jon, I see two things in this. The negative part is that you say you are leaving. That is truly a shame for you have been an important part of this place for a long time.

The positive part is that you are not leaving angry. You say you are not getting anything out of the 'Cat and feel you need to leave. I agree that you should take a break. Enjoy the wind in your face and let the computer rest.

I do this occasionally. I find there is little going on at the 'Cat that really grabs me. I shift into lurker mode and just make the occasional post. Then, for some reason, I catch fire again and jump back in.

Whatever you do, live well, live long, and be happy.

Brett


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:00 AM

Best Wishes Jon..this is our loss. You know how to get in touch if you want - and I'd always be pleased to hear from you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: MudGuard
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:26 AM

Uuuups, hit the return key too early!

Without you in Mudcat, how should I find such beautiful places like the Great Orme?

MudGuard


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: MudGuard
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:22 AM

Dear Jon, please come back!

You will be missed!

MudGuard (Andy)


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:57 AM

Just read through this - and I'm really pleased it hasn't drifted off into people griping about Mudcat politics and so forth, but stayed with us being appreciative of someone who's been good to have around.

Here's a link to song of mine in Áine's Mudcat Songbook which seems appropriate, written a couple of years back To Old Friend 'What-His-Name'"

(Mudcat is a lot like Chicago says Susan - would that be Chicago 1929?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:21 AM

Gee. I've only been around here for a half year, but I've seen you contribute so much. You will be missed.

Drink lots of cold water and walk slow.

gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: bill\sables
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 06:42 AM

Jon, it is sad to see you go. During the time you have been here you have added a hell of a lot of good things to mudcat. Do please visit us soon and remember if you want to go to the Getaway Sam and I are flying out on 18th October and would appreciate your company on the flight. Good luck in your future ventures.
Bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 06:36 AM

I don't know what to say to you Jon which is why I haven't posted til now..........and I still don't. I have enjoyed your presence and the talks we've had. I guess there is this kind of angst I feel about this.

On the one hand, I understand and hope you'll come back sometime, although your decision saddens me. On the other hand, I have also gotten the sense lately that your 3-D life may be going off into better places and for that I am happy....and I hope I'm right. There is a time and place for all things and for now, Mudcat may be holding back some of the things that are progressing in 3-D and has become a hassle rather than a pleasure or whatever.

Go and do and enjoy and perhaps sometime the 'Cat will fit in again.......and for better reasons. You know you are always in my thoughts and I hope to still meet you sometime and also see you back here if the time should be right.

Good Luck Jon...

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: okthen
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 05:44 AM

I echo all the above, please lurkawhile, or atleast send us a card ar christmas.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Llanfair
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 05:03 AM

Farewell, Jon. You know where to find me if you want to get in touch.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST,Patrish
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:42 AM

Jon, please keep in contact with me - I will PM you with my e-mail address.

I usually like Fridays, but not today. I am really sorry that you are leaving and if I could think of the right thing to say then I would say it

Remember how well we danced together, and talked together, remember I am still here.

love
Patrish xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 04:05 AM

Jon-I dont really now what to say, try not to leave, you are one of the best ones here.If you come to Hull get in contact and I will show you the local folk clubs.john


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: BlueJay
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:43 AM

Jon, as someome who posts infrequently, but is still usually watching, I'd like to say goodbye. While you and I have philosophically different viewpoints on some issues, I have never considered that to be a hinderance. I have philosophical differences with many of my good friends in "the real world".

Your technical expertise, which has aided me at times (without acknowledgement from me, I am shamed to say), will be sorely missed at the Mudcat. You have had a positive influence on many more folks than you know.

You don't have to quit, you know. You can do as I do: pick and choose and post when you want. Every three months or once a year. Your input is needed here. This is a great community. If you are ever in Colorado, you are welcome as a guest in my home, by virtue of your postings.
But please check back. At least lurk. You have not responded to this thread, so I asssume your decision is final. But I'm hoping your curiosity will eventually get the best of you. you have so much to offer to so many people. Thank you, Jon, no matter the outcome. BlueJay


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:38 AM

Jon, don't underestimate the benefits Mudcatters have gained from your technical computer advice and banjo expertise. I respect your decision, I hope it signals that some of the personal problems you've shared with us have now gone away, if so, I hope the Mudcat has helped rather than hindered. All best wishes for the future, with or without the Mudcat.
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:24 AM

Jon, try and get to the Jug sometime soon, you will be welcomed - there may be a new landlord in the not too distant future - we don't know if that will change things!
You will be missed on the mudcat! Best of luck!
Geoff and Jane.


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 03:09 AM

Farewell Jon, but I dearly hope that I can say one day 'what a joy to see you back'

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: nutty
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:30 AM

I second everything that has already been said and add my thanks for all the help and support so patiently given --- particularly regarding Paltalk -----

GOODBYE & GOOD LUCK


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Hawker
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 02:24 AM

Bye Jon, You'll be missed.
Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 01:40 AM

Well, Jon, you are going to make me break one of my rules. Usually when someone leaves, I just say goodbye. This is because I have seen a number of folks do it just to get attention or to try and prove a point. But that is not you. I sincerely wish good things for you, and have come to value you as a friend, and as a steadying influence here. I wish for you peace, and I hope you understand how deeply some of us feel about you. Come back if you feel you can, but whether you do or not, please add me to your list of people that will remain your friend regardless of whether or not you are a Mudcatter. In fact, whether you are here or not, you will always be a Mudcatter. We are poorer for you leaving.

And should you ever visit Michigan, please contact me. You have a place to stay.

Mick Lane


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 01:30 AM

It's been a real pleasure, mate.

Ernie


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:37 AM

This is very sad news to me Jon. I'm going to miss you. You're a good man.

Take care, and good luck with your life.

Carol


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: blt
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:34 AM

Jon, I'm sorry to hear that you're cutting ties to Mudcat. As a new (relatively) member here, I've been fairly quiet but attentive to various threads, and your comments have always struck me as thoughtful and worth reading. I hope you will drift this way again, from time to time.

blt


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:15 AM

Jon .... I've been away for awhile ... and this is very upsetting! You've always been there, and your opinions have always been valuable! I understand what you're saying and I want you to know that you will be missed. Please come back when you're ready.

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:10 AM

take care, mate...you're one of my favourites...


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: alison
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 12:10 AM

bobbi... you have to download paltalk......

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: bobbi
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:59 PM

Jon.... Wait! Come back, come back! I'm brand new here and haven't gotten to know you yet! What's wrong with this site? These people? (some of them) Don't leave! Where's Paltalk? How do I get there? Help!


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:57 PM

Jon,

Please look up and read what I wrote once here about leaving Chicago.

Mudcat is a lot like Chicago.

love,

~A Chicagoan


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:36 PM

Jon, I'll PM you how much your voice on HearMe and PalTalk have meant to me. I understand.

Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 11:01 PM

Jon,

I can only echo the many heartfelt remarks and regrets. May I suggest you check in every now and then and see if your interests are better served than you thought? This really is a music forum, BS notwithstanding. And you are musical kith and kin here. For my part, Mudcat like home is a place where when you go there, they are glad you're there and they cannot turn you away.

So either come back soon, or cancel the whole decision and just lurk for a bit.

Regards,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Farewell To Mudcat
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 10:47 PM

Jon ~~~ I am truly saddened by the news that you are pulling stakes. There are few enough of us four string banjo pickers around Mudcat or anywhere else these days. It was always a real treat when you were running the show on Paltalk. Keep pick'en.

Cap't Bob


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