Great new film: 'Songcatcher'

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 09:37 AM

The film has run endlessly on HBO this December. It is surely available on tape or DVD as it was suggested to me by friends who have neither cable nor SatDish. I liked everything about the film except for the story. The acting was ok but not near enough of Iris Dement. The setting was beyond beautiful, the props and costumes were spot on, the music was out of sight good. But contrived isn't strong enough to cover the story.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: ballpienhammer
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 08:34 AM

Both CD and Video avail. from amazon; cd only from Barnes & Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 29 Dec 02 - 02:06 AM

The first time I saw Songcatcher, I was mesmerized by the singing and enjoyed the movie as a whole. The second time around, I was still mesmerized by the singing, but less impressed with the story and some of the characterizations. It really lost its lustre for me. Some movies grow on you after repeat showings, but this one somehow had the opposite effect. Still, the producer and director are to be praised for presenting traditional song with an ear to authenticity and sensitivity, and I would recommend it to anyone here who hasn't seen it.

Chanteyranger

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: bbc
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 10:43 PM

Oh, shoot, HTML messed me up! I used angle brackets. That should have read that I liked the movie of Songcatcher better & the soundtrack of Oh, Brother. Ballads from Songcatcher are on Sheila's cd, My Dearest Dear. Check the website for more details.

Sorry about that,

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: bbc
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 10:39 PM

I liked the movie of better & the soundtrack of . BTW, as I understand it, Sheila Kay Adams, a 7th generation ballad singer from North Carolina, was a consultant on the movie & most of the songs in it are her versions. Some are on her cd, . Her husband sings authentic Civil War songs. Check out her website at
http://www.jimandsheila.com/
Her Christmas recording is wonderful, as is the book of stories from her childhood. I plan to order more of her recordings soon!

bbc

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 10:02 PM

Thanks for sharing. I too will rent it and report back. We need to keep Spaw updated.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 09:27 PM

I just rented the Songcatcher video. Better than Oh Brother etc. I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Troll
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:01 AM

Uh...'Spaw? Uh...Whats a freakin' thread and how do you start one? Is it like a car engine or a fire or a riot?
How do you start one,'Spaw? Huh? Huh? How?

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:00 PM

Because I don't know which of the 10 threads someone may be tracing, I'm posting this on ALL of the "Songcatcher" threads.

Our good member annamil has a video store and I asked her to check on the " of the movie being available on videotape and as she always does, came through for us. Here is what she posted:

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I just called my dealer and he says it will be out Oct 23rd and I will pre-book it Oct 1st. You won't be able to buy it for awhile, but you will be able to rent it. I didn't know about this movie til I read this thread and I only read this thread because someone mentioned it in another thread. I can't wait to see it and more importantly, I can't wait to HEAR it.

I'm not sure how many I should order for the store as this is the first I've heard of it.

From what I heard and read here, it may be worth 10 threads ;-)

Love, Annamill

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So go bug your local videostore and tell them you want to rent "Songcatcher." And when you do.........Don't start another freakin' thread huh?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:58 PM

It makes you wonder which movie inspired more threads - "O Brother" or "Songcatcher"?

Or we could start a new thread entitled " Need a snappy new title for a thread about "Songcatcher".

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM

Actually patty Clink......If you look at the others, you'll see that several make it obvious it's a movie and several more might lead you to believe that it is....

BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
The Songcatcher
BS: Songcatcher
Songcatcher FJ Child film - info?
BS: Anyone seen 'Songcatcher'?
Songcatcher-See the Movie
BS: SONGCATCHER
Appalachian Music Fans:Songcatcher comin'
Songcatcher
Songcatcher Review Requested

I refreshed the whole damn bunch last night......There might sometimes be a problem in naming threads, but a bigger problem is starting a thread without checking to see if the topic has come up before. I like paddy's title too.......

Spaw

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: pattyClink
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:28 PM

Thanks for bringing up this new thread, Paddy. I needed it. There a zillion threads and we all have to skip some. I think when the first one appeared I must have thought 'Songcatcher' sounded like some pseudo-folk New Age crap and skipped over it. Then when 'Snogcatcher' started showing up I knew it was an inside-clique thing and skipped that too. So here we are on a slow news day and I finally learn about this apparently important film. (because you named the thread in a sensible manner)THANKS!

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:10 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 11:08 PM

There is an interesting MESSAGE BOARD at the official site, where others have psoted questions about video, etc. Some have echoed the same thing Dick has posted. For those of you wondering about release dates and locations, it might be a good idea to watch the MB.

Good one, chanteyranger! And, LOL @Spaw and Paddy!

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 10:52 PM

Same warning I posted in one of the other Songcatcher threads:

The soundtrack CD has only a slight (3 out of 16 tracks) resemblance to the movie soundtrack. Instead of traditional presentations of the songs--the thing that made the movie worth hearing--you get Nashville overarrangements by the likes of Gillian Welch, Alison Krause and Emmylou Harris.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 07:38 PM

It'll probablt get an airing on the TV over here some time. But there are so many possible channels now - so if anybody spots it in the UK schedules, let us know here. (You could call the thread "Songcatcher"...)

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 07:18 PM

I've searched the web pretty well and there is a ton on the soundtrack, but as of this point in time, no video or even mention of an expected release time. I'm sure it will be as almost everything is nowadays, but you never know.

No mention either of overseas release, although someone in another of the Songcatcher threads made the comment that the translation versions usually come out (French) about 2 months later so possibly they will release the overseas market all at one time........or not.

.....Thanks paddy......

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Jande
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 06:40 PM

Is there a video yet?

~ Jande

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: okthen
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 02:15 PM

I click on all threads regarding songcatcher, as yet I still have no news when it'll be released in the UK, nor have I found any info about video, so if anyone has any info on how I can get to see it (short of flying to USA)I would appreciate it.

cheers

bill

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 01:15 PM

Leaping on from a great height wasn't really meant critically. It what we always used to do in the swimming pool when I was a kid. It was essentially non-malicious, but it could be a bit disconcerting, and it was a good idea to keep an eye out for descending divebombers.

Now of course they've got rid of the diving boards in the interests of safety, so the kids go out and ride skateboards in the traffic instead..

I thought I remembered that there used to be a warning like that in the "new threads" page. I think I might even have taken its advice on occasion anyway and checked.And I also know that the last time I started a new thread there wasn't any such advice and I didn't check.

All this reminds me of a PG Wodehouse story I've cited previously, which hinges on some unsuspecting chappie being advised to sing "Sonny Boy" in a concert. An innocuous enough, if somewhat glutinous song - but it so happens that a small army of other unsuspecting chappies have been advised to sing the very same song at various spots earlier in the evening. The denouement being that the poor lad nearly gets lynched when he remarks tunefully "Climb upon my knee, Sonny Boy".

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: paddymac
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 10:43 AM

As the instigator of this albeit inadvertant, needlessly repetitive thread, let me assure one and all that absolutely no offense was meant, given or taken. It's just a pleasant little "family chat" amongst good cbyer-friends. Helpful instruction of the gentlest kind, given and taken in the spirit if fillial love, with , perhaps, a pinch of sibling rivalry thrown in for good measure. So let's all relax, have a good chuckle, then run out and see a most enjoyable film.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: GUEST,DeLurk
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 10:31 AM

As a new guest, I'd never heard of the film, so I am appreciative of it being mentioned.

Did a search for the film locally through Moviefone.com, and find it isn't in my area.

But it also seems to have been released last summer?

Are people seeing it in second run and art houses?

And finally, does anyone know if it is available on video/DVD, or when it might be coming out?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 09:59 AM

..........oy..............Sorry John....really.........I'm not annoyed, just find it humorous that we do this all the time, but I'll tell you what............This is my last word on the subject period. I read lots of threads of all types and if I had a dime for every time this happens I'd be rich. It's not a big deal and I'll drop it here and now.

I agree with you on reading and not reading what you choose.......I know tone is difficult to pick up on the net, but believe me, this was more humorous to me than annoying.........so much for links, I'll leave it to others.

Thanks John, for your post.... and paddy...Glad you liked it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: John P
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 09:41 AM

Hey Spaw,

You said, "I'm not leaping on anyone from great height"

Sorry, I have to disagree with you. That's exactly what you were doing. If you don't want to read another thread about Songcatcher, just don't read it. It's real easy. It's a lot easier for you to do that than it is for other people to reseach a bunch old threads and spend the loads of time it takes to read through them all. I get about half an hour to one hour a day to read the computer. I'm not going to spend it reading all the old threads on the Mudcat making sure some topic hasn't been covered before.

In my case, I had no interest in Songcatcher until it showed up at the $3 theater near me, which it just did. I was wondering if I should go see it, when a thread popped up here about it. "Cool", I thought, "I can see what other people thought of the movie." Instead I get a lot of hot air and a list of links to old threads. I click on a couple of them and read the first several posts in both and still don't know what anyone thought of the movie -- except for paddmac, who started this thread that so annoyed you. I'm glad he did.

Again, if you don't want to read a thread just don't read it. Please don't fill it up with your bitching. I can't think of any reason for you to have opened this thread other than to give yourself the opportunity to correct someone else's behavior. So now I'm correcting yours. Go figure.

John Peekstok

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 04:16 AM

Aw, 'Spaw, I'm touched! (But you already knew that.)

And, as they say in cyberland, LOL@chanteyranger! Deft touch.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: JenEllen
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 03:16 AM

What whuppin' was that? There isn't a soul here who hasn't been so keyed up at one time or another that they posted before checking on old threads to refresh, I'd stake my slushy little reputation on that one.

I'm glad you enjoyed the film and when you wanted to share it, thought of us.

~J

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: paddymac
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 03:07 AM

Well, when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, there usually aint nothin' to do but 'fess up, and maybe (as might be appropos here) just grin and say "Hmmmmm Good!"

I confess to not having done a thread search before posting, but I'm truly amazed that there were an estimated 4,379 prior threads on the topic which escaped my attention when they were "running." *BG*

I'll take my whuppin' like a man, but I'll be singin; thru my tears - "don't miss when it comes to your part of the woods."

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 01:22 AM

I'm just waiting for the release of Morticia's new film, "Snogcatcher."

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: jaze
Date: 21 Jul 01 - 12:17 AM

Don't feel bad,Paddy I made the same mistake a while back. Seems there had already been a couple threads when I first learned of the movie. And I thouhgt I was sharing BIG NEWS-

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 11:11 PM

LOL......but, uh......Bite me Mark.........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 11:06 PM

Hey, I got it! I'll start a thread called, "I'm leaving Mudcat and going to see Songcatcher, and taking my Seagull with me" -- whaddya think?

You know, you do have to be a little careful about suggesting that people always research their topics. What if somebody was wondering how to kill a thread.....?

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 10:33 PM

Funny you should mention that Steve........I'm about to start a new thread instead of refreshing one, just to get some new folks responses as it's been a long time......It was funnier than hell, called, "How to Create a Folk Song".......We'll see wht the new folks do with it as it got hilarious respnses before.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:20 PM

'Spaw,

Just when I was going to start a "what is folk?" thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 09:07 PM

Kevin, I'm not "leaping on anyone from great height".........Believe me, I know that many times a new take or whatever is important as is a new audience. The Soncatcher thing just cracks me up, but even when there was a note asking people to check old threads, it didn't get read! However, if you have come looking for info on Seagull Guitars or any topic, it just makes sense to check back and see what has been said previously. Then maybe you refresh a thread that's apprpropriate......or maybe your question is already answered.

Searhing is not all that hard and frankly there have been so many topics discussed here that reading old threads may be not just educational, but also a way of saying opinions mean something. I'm not pissed here and definitely not pissed at paddymac who is an old and valued member. Nothing will change the situation short of a program that forces a search before starting a thread and that's a ridiculous amount of work I think.

So I try to treat the thing humorously or throw in the past relevant threads as clickies in the new thread. I fear at times though that they don't get read and I'm not sure why. Just the 'Cat and another day.............no big deal.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:33 PM

Maybe a note on the "create new thread" page advising people to check up on the archives first might help...

I don't mean people should feel they should always revive an old thread rather than start a new one. Some of them get a bit long, and mayve there's a different angle that the new one is trying to open up - but it might be a good idea to stick a link to the precursor threads in the opening post.

For one thing it means we are less likely to have people leaping on us from a great height to tell us the previous threads existed, and questioning the rationale for the new one.

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:10 PM

paddy's a good guy, but this particular one is simply amazing to me. Cracks me up..........I think when I see the movie, I'LL start a thread just for the hell of it!!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: DougR
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 08:05 PM

So? It's a good film, right? :>)

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: JenEllen
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:53 PM

Aw, if the fella is serious, it's no trouble at all. We all gotta learn sometime.

Just please promise no Seagull threads? Eh, Pad? That'll get you the cyber equivalent of the flying frying pan!

~JE

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:45 PM

Thanks JE....I wasn't up to it again.......

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:43 PM

Spaw already got the "wind of it"

paddy.....ya' know I love ya'.......you're a great guy and all and we've been friends here a long time .....right? So when I say this, please take it with all the love and friendship behind it.......Okay?

ARE YOU TRYING TO DRIVE ME FOCKIN' NUTS!!!!

Do me a favor so I don't have to make the list again.........Enter 'songcatcher' in the filter box and set the refresh for 1 year........You'll find this thread is Songcatcher Nine. On one of those threads I actually linked all the previous Songcatcher threads. I wish we could get in the habit of checking for previous threads before we start new ones................................*sigh* ...........................Oh well..........Say, you wouldn't want to start one on Seagull Guitars would you? I think we only have about a dozen and a half or so on them....................

Spaw (:<))

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: JenEllen
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:37 PM

paddymac...if you are serious, try these:
ONE

TWO

THREE

FOUR

FIVE

SIX

SEVEN

EIGHT

Maybe next we should start a thread about how many times we have to dredge up these links? *bg*

Subject: RE: BS: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:33 PM

don't let spaw catch wind of this....

Subject: Great new film: 'Songcatcher'
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Jul 01 - 07:10 PM

Had the opportunity to see this fillm today. It's an ensemble piece, featuring Janet McTeer and Aidan Quinn. The story line involves a brit musicologist at the turn of the century (the 20th) "discovering" authentic folk music from the Celtic Isles in Apalachia. It's not a "big budget spectacular", but if you appreciate Apalachian music, especially in the sean nos stlye, you'll like this film.