Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,geniesings@hotmail.com Date: 29 Jul 01 - 06:40 AM Jeeneia mentioned this verse of WHAT CHILD IS THIS? Why lies He in such mean estate Where ox and lamb [ass] are feeding? Good Christian, fear, for sinners here The silent word is pleading. Nails, spear shall pierce Him through, The cross be borne for me, for you. Hail! Hail the Word made flesh, The Babe, the son of Mary |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@onebox.com Date: 29 Jul 01 - 06:27 AM Sorry. I left my hotmail box unattended too long and it went extinct. You can reach me at onebox.com. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Robin2 Date: 29 Jul 01 - 01:19 AM Joe, Any idea where I could find a recorded copy of "Merry Christmas from the family"? The first time I heard that song, we were driving through Philly at midnight on December, and I laughed so hard I cried. Robin |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: katlaughing Date: 29 Jul 01 - 12:01 AM Willa, that is a very touchng song. Thanks for posting it. kat |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 28 Jul 01 - 11:51 PM There's a third verse to What Child is This? with the words "Nails,spears, shall pierce him through, the cross be borne for me, for you..." It's got power, see if you can locate the rest of it. |
Subject: ADD: Sleigh Ride parody From: bobbi Date: 28 Jul 01 - 10:23 PM Okay.. I cave in at last... This IS hard hitting.. to say the least. It is raw edged..without a doubt.. and it reminds me of what Xmas was all about when I was married (another holiday.. another "leg" night).. Author Unknown: Sung to the tune of Sleigh Ride ~ ~ ~ I feel my pecker tinglin', balls are jinglin' too, Come on and tell me whether I can link 'em together with you. I need a hot slit mommy, to slip my salami into. I must be over eager 'cause even your beaver will do! Get it up, get it up, get it up, let's go.. Your butt is too slow.. Start hoppin' like a rabbit in the snow... Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, my Dear, hot jiz in your ear. I know it's not easy for you hangin' from that chandlier. I need a new position for sperm worm fishin' with you.. I want to jam my putts in with both of my nutts in your shoe.. I feel my pecker tinglin' balls are jinglin' too, C'mon and be so pleasant while I pump my present in you! b |
Subject: Lyr Add: MAKE MY PRESENT SMALL (Bob Coltman) From: GUEST,guest--Pat Nowell Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:13 PM Bob Coltman recorded a thought provoking song in 1985 on the BMI label, called MAKE MY PRESENT SMALL Santa Claus I'm writing to you with extra special care. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Amos Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:30 PM I believe Condolezza Schwartz recorded a tune called "Fuck You -- It's Christmas" for Backbite Records, but the management decided not to include it in her actual CD. Guess it would be pretty valuable if you caould get ahold of the master, therefore! A |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: jacko@nz Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:10 PM There's a charming ditty by Eric Bogle 'Santa Bloody Claus' Jack |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: RoyH (Burl) Date: 28 Jul 01 - 02:36 PM Enoch Kent wrote a marvellous Christmas satire to the tune of 'Mary's Boy Child'. It's on 'Revival In Britain' Folkways FW8728. "Christmas comes but once a year, So the holy bible say. And man must stash his cash all year, because of Christmas Day. All the stores were gaily garnished, tinsel and imitation snow. And we look forward to Christmas day and we hope we have the dough." |
Subject: Lyr Add: SUDDENLY IT'S CHRISTMAS (L Wainwright) From: Charley Noble Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:55 PM Maybe I missed it but no one has mentioned Tom Lehrer's soulful Christmas song: Christmas time is here, by golly... Then there's Loudon Wainwright's lovely song:
SUDDENLY IT'S CHRISTMAS G D G D G CThere's got to be a build up for the day that Christ was born; The malls are decked with pumpkins and ears of Injun corn; Dragging through the falling leaves in a one-horse open sleigh; Suddenly it's Christmas, seven weeks before the day. C G D G D GOutside it's nice and balmy, in the air nary a nip; Suddenly it's Christmas, Santa's on his trip; Yes, they're working overtime, Santa's little runts; Christmas comes but once a year – and hangs on for two months.
Christmas carols in December, and November too; Chorus:
Suddenly it's Christmas, the longest holiday; |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,Arkie Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:08 PM Take Uncle Dave's Table Grace by the Berrymans, switch it from Thanksgiving to Christmas and make people laugh and cry at the same time. |
Subject: Lyr Add: A CHRISTMAS CAROL (G. K. Chesterton) From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 28 Jul 01 - 10:38 AM Depends what you mean by contemporary. Here is something Chesterton dashed off when he read a piece in the paper "The chief constable has issued a statement declaring that carol singing in the streets by children is illegal and morally and physically injurious. He appeals to the public to discourage the practice." This would have been about 1925. Not much changes does it? God rest you merry gentlemen Let nothing you dismay; The Herald Angels cannot sing, The cops arrest them on the wing, And warn them of the docketing Of anything they say. God rest you merry gentlemen Let nothing you dismay; On your reposeful cities lie Deep silence, broken only by The motor horn's melodious cry The hooters happy bray. So when the song of children ceased And Herod was obeyed, In his high hall Corinthian With purple and with peacock fan, Rested that merry gentleman; And nothing him dismayed. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Cappuccino Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:57 AM Oh blast - Jeanene, my e-mails to you keep coming back undelivered. Yes please to the alternative carols. - Ian |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Cappuccino Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:54 AM Blimey, we're going get an album out of this. Willa, that's a lovely final couplet in that song of yours, and thanks Nutty, I'm still laughing at the line in the Tawney song where he tries to ram the carol singer's lantern down his throat... Still researching the rest, and thanks again. - Ian |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 28 Jul 01 - 09:49 AM Ewan MacColl again.Look at The Moving On Song. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: nutty Date: 28 Jul 01 - 07:39 AM In a lighter vein there's ....THERE ARE NO LIGHTS ON OUR CHRISTMAS TREE .......a Cyril Tawney classic and it's in the DT |
Subject: Lyr Add: SHOEBOX CINDERELLA (Willa) From: GUEST,Willa Date: 28 Jul 01 - 06:32 AM This is a song I wrote in '99 The Yorkshire Post's Christmas Appeal is for shoeboxes filled with small gifts, for children in Romania. Some of the children are living in rubbish dumps, some need hospice care, but can only be admitted when they are considered to have less than 5 months to live.
SHOEBOX CINDERELLA
There's a child among the ashes; can you bring a little smile
CHORUS
She's a shoebox Cinderella, but this is no pantomime.
In her rags amidst the squalor, cold and hungry, she's alone.
CHORUS
Though a shoebox full of treasures, just to show that someone cares, CHORUS |
Subject: ADD: Merry Christmas from the Family ^^ From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Jul 01 - 04:05 AM I don't know if this is "hard-hitting," but it's an interesting scoial commentary. A woman in our song circle does a great job of it. -Joe Offer- Merry Christmas From the Family |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,Lucius (cookieless again) Date: 28 Jul 01 - 03:49 AM Maybe not that hard hitting, but how about Joni Mitchells' River; The Pogues Fairytale of New York; and ELPs' Father Christmas, all contempory. If I had to pick one, it'd be Christmas in the Trenches. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Jeremiah McCaw Date: 28 Jul 01 - 02:49 AM Ewan MacColl's "Ballad of the Carpenter"? (as recorded by Phil Ochs) |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Cappuccino Date: 28 Jul 01 - 02:39 AM Wow, now I've gone through them, there's some powerful stuff in there: "For it isn't to the palace that the Christ child comes But to shepherds and street people, hookers and bums" ... which is exactly right for the things we're doing. And on that same clicky, Alex, was a super song called Soul of a Man. We'll have that as well! Cheers, - Ian |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Cappuccino Date: 28 Jul 01 - 02:27 AM Cor, go to sleep for five minutes and I wake up to a day's research!!! Many thanks indeed. - Ian |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@hotmail.com Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:38 AM Not fully contemporary (in some of its specific ad references) but Stan Freeburg's "Green Christmas" is a classic satire and protest of the commercialization of Christmas. There's also a sad Spanish Christmas song called "Pobres Huerfanitos (sp?). Tish Hinojosa also has a song called "Jesse" on her Christmas album (tape or CD) about a girl in the housing projects. It's a positive outlook song but I think you might find it fits with your category. I also have some "alternative christmas carols" (parodies about the excesses and abuses of Christmas) which I can email you if you like. If you're looking for silly stuff, of course, there's "Walking 'Round In Women's Underwear," and "I Yoost Go Nuts AT Christmas." |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,jeanenepratt@hotmail.com Date: 28 Jul 01 - 01:21 AM There's a song called The Rebel Jesus, sung, I think, by Jackson Browne and someone else. It is hard hitting, to say the least . I wish I could remember the lyrics, but you can probably find it through mudcat. In fact, I'd like to get the lyrics and chords myself. J |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: JohnB Date: 27 Jul 01 - 11:09 PM OK Anglo, you beat me to the Homeless Wassail. Didn't the Kipper Family do something suitable too ? Although I don't remember what. You could try the Hungry Child, not sure who wrote it but Young Tradition did it. JohnB
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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: khandu Date: 27 Jul 01 - 10:43 PM Tune of "Deck the Halls" "Screw the poor, the sick, the needy, Fa la la la la la la la la Tis the Season to be greedy" |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Anglo Date: 27 Jul 01 - 09:59 PM You should definitely check out Ian Robb's "Homeless Wassail" which I believe is on the latest Finest Kind CD, more than likely available from Camsco Music... More contemporary than WWI, anyway, though I certainly won't deny the power of the songs mentioned above. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: catspaw49 Date: 27 Jul 01 - 09:47 PM Ian, I'd like to say something different, but all I can do is throw in my vote for both Christmas in the Trenches and 1913 Massacre(e). Both are really great and if you can sing Christmas in the Trenches without a few tears being shed, including your own, you're a better man than I am Gunga Din! Hard hitting? Man, it's hard to beat this:
Than daylight stole upon us and France was France once more OR
But the ones who call the shots won't be among the dead and lame Geeziz.....It just doesn't get any stronger than that. A really exquisite piece of work. Spaw
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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: late 'n short 2 Date: 27 Jul 01 - 09:25 PM How about John Denver's Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas. He played and sang it up tempo like a kid might sing it but the story is by no means light. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Jul 01 - 07:55 PM I believe "Christmas in the Trenches" is the greatest anti-war song of all time. Bravo, John McCutcheon. - LH |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Gareth Date: 27 Jul 01 - 07:33 PM "Twas Christmas Day in the Work House, and that Christmas it was cruel, The lads they had nothing to eat, excepting a bowl of Gruel. In came the balliff's daughter She came to bear the brunt, Oh what do you want for Christmas Lads ? And they answered - "Oh Tidings of comfort and Joy .... Gareth |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: GUEST,Eileen Date: 27 Jul 01 - 07:26 PM "Silent Night" by Simon & Garfunkle. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:45 PM John Gorka's version of "I Heard The Bells On X-mas Day" Oh soooo sweet! |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:39 PM The Eagles did a Christams song that was 12 bar blues. Don't remamber the name but it starts out something like Bells will be ringing their sad sad songs. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: nutty Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:28 PM Season of Peace by Si Khan |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:27 PM Stan Roger's "First Christmas" Jethro Tull's "A Christmas Song" |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Ron Olesko Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:23 PM There is Woody Guthrie's "1913 Massacree"... another true story. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Hollowfox Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:23 PM Anti-Carol by John Pole. It's in the DT. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: RWilhelm Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:22 PM "Christmas in Prison" is a quirky Christmas song by John Prine on his CD "Sweet Revenge." And let me be the frist to mention "Fairy Tale of New York" by the Pogues. A harder-hitting Christmas song I can't imagine. The lyrics have been posted here several times. |
Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Wesley S Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:15 PM "Come Rejoice" by Judy Collins from the CD of the same title. About the homeless. |
Subject: Lyr Add: CHRISTMAS IN THE TRENCHES (J McCutcheon) From: Trapper Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:14 PM How about this one? - Al
CHRISTMAS IN THE TRENCHES Author:John McCutcheon
My name is Francis Tolliver, I come from Liverpool. Also in the Digital Tradition and in Christmas in the Trenches thread group. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: mousethief Date: 27 Jul 01 - 05:13 PM Have you heard Cockburn's "Cry of a Tiny babe"? It sets my teeth on edge, and I'm a huge Cockburn fan! :o) cf: blicky Alex |
Subject: Know any hard-hitting christmas songs? From: Cappuccino Date: 27 Jul 01 - 04:50 PM Happy Christmas… and although this year I will dutifully turn up to play the carols and applaud the nativity shows, three of us have an idea to offer something additional to the church and community here in Oxfordshire. We're putting together, both on record and 'live' in pubs/town square, a programme of tougher raw-edge stuff, to remind people what the season is really about. We're doing OK for some hard-hitting poems, drama, stories and the oddball bits such as the television psalm, 'The 23rd Channel' (if you don't know it and want the words, let me know!). But songs, I'm short of. Can anyone lead me to any contemporary 'make people think' songs about Christmas? And I can't think if there has ever been a Christmas blues… although now I've written that, I can think of several Catters who will probably compose one instantly. All the best – Ian B |
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