Info on Paul Siebel

Subject: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 08:20 AM

Dear Catters, I've been playing Paul Siebel songs for a number of years now and just love ALL of his songs. Of course it's really cool he was born and raised in my own home town of Buffalo , New York . I was wondering if you would like to share some interesting stories about Paul, current or past and maybe list a few of your favorite songs of his ;like Louise or If you don't love her .

Mike Strobel

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 03:21 PM

Dear Mike,

I have both of Paul Siebel's Elektra albums and think they're great. May favorite from Woodsmoke and Oranges is "My Town" and I like "Jasper and the Miners" Jack Knife Gypsy. Dont'know much more about him, other than I heard he now lives in Balitimore and thought he had pretty much said what he had to say as a songwriter.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 03:39 PM

Dear Phil, I play My Town and just love the song. I can almost see the factories and ethnic neighborhoods in Buffalo , that he might be singing about. The other song , I'm really loving lately is The Captains Daughter . Thanks Phil

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 03:53 PM

I've always thought that "Woodsmoke and Oranges" was one of the greatest singer-songwriter albums ever.

There's now a CD reissue called "Paul Siebel" that includes all of "Woodsmoke" and half of "Jackknife GYpsy." It's on the Philo label.

I saw Paul a few years ago. He was living in Baltimore and out of the music biz.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 04:14 PM

Dear Phil, I play My Town and just love the song. I can almost see the factories and ethnic neighborhoods in Buffalo , that he might be singing about. The other song , I'm really loving lately is The Captains Daughter . Thanks Phil

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 04:18 PM

Dear TP , Yes, I had heard he was living an working in the Maryland area and not in show-biz any more. I have the CD you refer to ,issued in 1995 on Philo Records. I also heard of a live recording ( probably on vinyl) of his from 1981 called Live at McCabes on Wooden Nichol Records , however, I can't locate it.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Trapper
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 04:42 PM

Isn't Paul Siebel the guy who wrote "Louise" that has been done by Bonnie Raitt and Leo Kottke. VERY evocative! I haven't heard any other songs by him, so these suggestions are great. I think I read somewhere that Paul was a baker now.

- Al

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 10:36 PM

Dear Mike,

Glad to be of assistance. Always enjoyed when Margaret and I came through Rochester.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 09:27 AM

Dear Trapper, Yes, I did hear that Paul was a baker or at least doing some bakery work in the Baltimore area. Yes and he is indeed the person who wrote Louise , that was covered by Bonnie Raitt and Leo Kottke. Just imagine 13-14 other songs equally as interesting.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 11:11 AM

I heard about PS back in about 1969 or 1970. The story was that he was the guy who taught Dylan how to "sing country" before the Nashville Skyline album. Who knows if there's any truth to that.

I recently pulled out my vinyl copy of Woodsmoke and Oranges & Jackknife Gypsy and was happy to find that they still stand up after all these years. "My Town" is, indeed, a great piece of writing, but my favorite is "Bride, 1945". It is a truly awesome, jaundiced slice of Americana.

Bonnie Raitt covered another of the songs on Woodsmoke & Oranges, but I can't recall the title here at work; The verse goes:
If you don't love her, you better let her go
You'll never fool her, you're bound to let it show
Love's so hard to make when you have to fake everything in return
You just preserve her when you serve her a little tenderness

One question: I was told that he was from Missouri, around Jefferson City. Can anyone confirm the details?

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 11:32 AM

Well, a quick google search turned up a 1996 Dirty Linen article on Paul Seibel that was pretty informative. It seems that I've been wrong about him for 30 years. Not about his talent, just about his place of birth. He was indeed born in Buffalo, not Missouri. It also said that he had stopped playing and is (or was in 1996 at least) a baker in Maryland. What a great talent; what a shame that two albums of his original songs is all we got. Sometimes I begin to believe that this world isn't working quite right yet. . .

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Dharmabum
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 12:15 PM

Jack knife Gypsy is still one of my alltime favorite albums.
Louise is one of the songs in my repitiore that I've been playing consistantly for many years.
It's a real shame he got out of the music biz.

DB.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Mike Strobel
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 12:17 PM

Dear Bart, The song that you were referring to is called: Rainy Day Women ( if my memory is still working ). I just started to perform Bride 1945 a few weeks back. You are right , what a great song. All of those World War II brides and all of the homes in Buffalo suburbs constructed in the 50's.( I grew up in one ) Each of his songs play movies in my head. He did go to Greenwich Village around 64-65 and all of his major influences were country, like Hank Snow & Hank Williams Sr. . However, he did indeed , spend some time with Dylan ( And man you can hear it clearly in Paul's writing ) and I love the story that he taught Dylan how to sing for Nashville Skyline. ( Although ,thats a hard one to verify it's a great rumour , I'd like to spread.)

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 12:44 PM

The song is "Any Day Woman," not "Rainy Day Woman."

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 12:23 PM

T P , Thanks......I knew my brain was gettin' rainy !

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,daffydamnduck
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 11:06 AM

I heard Siebel's "Bride 1945" this morning for the first time. What a great tune. I really want to learn it. Heard it on my satellite Acoustic Crossroads station. I need the lyrics (chords would be helpful too). Any help.
Thanks
daffydamnduck

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 12:58 AM

Two other stunning Paul Siebel songs (both from "Jack-Knife Gypsy") currently in my repertoire -
Prayer Song
Chips Are Down

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From:
Date: 08 Sep 04 - 11:56 AM

There is now an import cd of both of Paul Siebel's albums plus 1 bonus track. The music has been remastered and sounds amazing. I got mine from CD Universe, online and they are located in Connecticut. I hope this helps and is informative.

                                    Rick Jones

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From:
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 08:34 PM

I had never heard of Paul until Ihappened to meet a picker from Tulsa named Steve Gavula (not sure about the spelling.)in 1971.He did a great rendition of "pinto pony". Ihave recently thought about the song but was unable to remember the lyrics. so... I happened upon your website. Thank you so much!!

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Mark Ross
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 10:41 AM

Paul is working for some county in Maryland doing maintenance. I talked to him a couple of months ago, for the first time in over 25 years. One of the great singers to come out of the Village in the sixties. We used to hang out at the Kettle of Fish bar after hours and trade tunes late into the night. His versions of Hank Williams and Jimmy Rodgers tunes are burned into my brain. A great writer and singer, and a true gentleman!

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: DonMeixner
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 12:52 AM

I saw Paul Siebel perform on a bill with Happy and Artie Traum in Syracuse, NY in the winter of 1973. I got to sit in the front row and watch his guitar work. I found it like his lyrics, very deceptive and very good.

The person next to me during the intermit called him a Jerry Jeff Walker wannabee. So I spilled my coffee in his lap.

It was a great show.

Don

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Eve Goldberg
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 02:18 PM

Glad to see people talking about Paul Siebel. I used to perform Louise for many years, which I learned from Bonnie Raitt and Leo Kottke. Then someone got me both of his albums and I wore them out for a while.

Recently I've been singing "The Ballad of Honest Sam."

Eve

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 25 Jul 11 - 06:51 PM

Please help, anyone know the chords to the songs on Jack-Knife Gypsy album.. thanks in anticipation.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 09:56 PM

Below is a Paul Siebel discography - can anyone supply additional information, additions, corrections, other interviews, articles?
There are some releases of the Elektra albums listed in an online discography showing Japanese and European releases which I have not seen. Can anyone confirm their existence, and provide catalog numbers?
Can anyone confirm the existence of the RAG BABY issue on CD?
Thanks!
Best wishes, Thomas.


PAUL SIEBEL
b. 1937 Buffalo, NY

see Saturday Review, JANUARY 30, 1971; Vol. LIV, No. 5, Recordings in Review
    Paul Siebel: Homegrown Weed by Ellen Sander. [Full page article, small photo]

    DIRTY LINEN #64 [June/July 1996]
    article by Ellen Geisel
    "He works as a bread-baker in a cafe/store in Maryland and has a keen interest in wooden       sailing ships."

    RHINO WARNER (UK) 76507, CD 2004
    "The booklet contains an interview by Peter Doggett where Siebel — now working for the    county taking care of local parks — looks back on his career."



WOODSMOKE & ORANGES
ELEKTRA 74064                            LP 1970
PHILO(Rounder) 1161                      CD 1995 [track 1-10]
RHINO WARNER (UK) 76507                   CD 2004 [track 1-10]
RHINO/Elektra                            mp3 2010
All songs by Paul Siebel

Paul Siebel - acoustic guitar, 12-string guitar, vocals
David Bromberg - dobro, acoustic guitar, electric guitar
Weldon Myrick - pedal steel guitar
Richard Greene - violin
Gary White - bass
Jeff Gutcheon - organ, piano
Don Brooks - harmonica
James Madison - drums


A1 She Made Me Lose My Blues             2:36
A2 Miss Cherry Lane                      2:53
A3 Nashville Again (Two-Ten Music ASCAP) 3:13
A4 The Ballad of Honest Sam               4:20
A5 Then Came the Children                4:10
                     Pumpkin/Nipper ASCAP
B1 Louise          (MA Music ASCAP)       3:40
B2 Bride 1945      (MCA Music ASCAP)      3:32
B3 My Town         (MCA Music ASCAP)      3:12
B4 Any Day Woman   (MCA Music ASCAP)      3:02
B5 Long Afternoons (Pumpkin/Nipper ASCAP) 4:21


Tracks in COMPILATION ALBUMS:
A1 in ELEKTRA ESP 9001 Garden of Delights 2-LP 1971 [C1}
B1 in RHINO 74746 Golden Age of Elektra   5-CD 2006 [CD4.02]



JACK-KNIFE GYPSY
ELEKTRA 74081                            LP 1971
PHILO(Rounder) 1161                      CD 1995 #
LINE(G) LECD-9.00951                      CD 1990
RHINO Warner (UK) 76507                   CD 2004 *
RHINO/Elektra                            mp3 2010

Paul Siebel - guitar, vocals
Clarence White - guitar
Robert Warford - guitar
Buddy Emmons - steel guitar
David Grisman - mandolin
Jim Buchanan - violin, viola
Doug Kershaw - fiddle
Billy Wolfe - bass
Bernie Leadon - guitar
Gary White - bass
Ralph Shuckett - organ, piano
Russ Kunkel - drums

    # *
A1 11 11 Jasper & the Miners   
A2 12 12 If I Could Say
A3    13 Jack-Knife Gypsy
A4    14 Prayer Song
A5    15 Legend of the Captain's Daughter
B1 15 21 Chips are Down
B2 14 17 Pinto Pony
B3    16 Hillbilly Child
B4 13 20 Uncle Dudley
B6    18 Miss Jones
B6    19 Jeremiah's Song

      22 NERVOUS [previously unreleased]

NOTE: track order may differ on mp3 downloads.



Elektra EKS 45731                   7"-45rpm promo
A JACK KNIFE GYPSY
B PRAYER SONG



WOODSTOCK MOUNTAINS (More Music From Mud Acres)
ROUNDER 3018                                     LP 1977 gf
VIVID SOUND(J) VSCD-089                         CD 1992 ??2000
BEATBALL (Korea)                                 CD 2004[+bonus track]
ROUNDER mp3 download                            mp3 2011

A7 Weary Blues (Hank Williams) 2:47
    Guitar, Vocals – Paul Siebel; Guitar [Dobro] – Ron Sutton;
    Steel Guitar [Pedal] – Gordon Titcomb; Piano – Eric Kaz.



PAUL SIEBEL (Live)
RAG BABY RAG-1006                                        LP 1980
RAG BABY (Intercord, G) INT 147.403                      LP 1980
RAG BABY ????                                             CD 1981
Recorded at McCabes in Los Angeles on June 9, 1978
Paul Siebel; David Bromberg; Gary White.

A1 Lonesome House               4:15 (Blind Lemon Jefferson/ Siebel)
A2 Women Make A Fool Out Of Me 3:05 (Jimmie Rodgers)
A3 I'm In The Jailhouse Now    2:17 (Jimmie Rodgers)
A4 If I Could Stay             3:38 (Paul Siebel)
A5 You Are My Sunshine          2:20 (J. Davis/ C. Mitchell)
B1 I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry 2:45 (Hank Williams)
B2 Pinto Pony                   2:35 (Paul Siebel)
B3 It's A Long Way To Nashville 3:00 (Paul Siebel)
B4 Louise                      3:40 (Paul Siebel)
B5 Honest Sam                   3:50 (Paul Siebel)



BREAD AND ROSES FESTIVAL OF MUSIC
FANTASY F-79011               2-LP 1980
Greek Theatre, Berkeley, CA

track 12 Lonesome House - Paul Siebel



GREENWICH VILLAGE FOLK FESTIVAL: W.4th & 6th Ave.
Gadfly 222                                        CD 1996
recorded in either 1993 or 1994

track 5 Ballad of Honest Sam - Paul Siebel

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 06:56 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: pdq
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 01:57 PM

Can anyone give a definite answer on how Paul Siebel pronounces his last name?

It should be "SEE-bull" but I have been corrected that he uses "SIGH-bull".

The NEW CD has both "Woodsmoke and Oranges" and "Jack Knife Gypsy" COMPLETE with all the songs in order, plus an unreleased song "Nervous" at the end.

Great CD plus the fidelity is quite good. British issue, I believe. (PS: note Jim Buchanan's under-rated fiddle playing on the second record)

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 01:59 PM

SEE-bull

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: pdq
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 02:06 PM

Thank you much, Brewster McCloud.

I will sleep better from now foreward.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Jan 12 - 04:05 PM

I met Paul a number of times in NYC and Montreal. He's a remarkable songwriter and was a great stage performer. I sure hope he's doing well.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Michael
Date: 15 Dec 12 - 10:18 PM

Nashville Again   Paul Siebel

D                   G    D             G               A
It's a long way to Nashville,but I've seen that road before.
                                        D
Here's hopin' that she knows me when I stand outside her door.
          G                   A
But some wind came up this evening
       D                G                        
All the stars have gone away
             A            G         A      
And there'll be a storm before the dawn
       G          D    A   D
But I can't turn back no more.

It's been a year since I seen her,
It's been a year spent underground
I've told the wind a thousand times
I didn't mean to let her down
With promises of seasons
That all left the frozen trees
Now silent rumors tell
She's done quite well
With a new love she has found.

Interlude

If she's found herself a good deal,
well then I guess I can't complain
Just kiss her once for good luck,
ask her what might be his name.               
And we can toss'em all the good times and
seek out her rainbow signs
But I have loved too long to be that strong,
And I hope it doesn't rain.

Repeat 1st verse.

I took this off the album "Paul Siebel" I have received much help and pleasure from folks who upload lyrics and chords, so i hope this one little effort of mine makes up for it all. chuckle chuckle
and a note: i notice when i preview, that the chords are somewhat to the left of where they should be. y'all can probably figure it out when you play it.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Joybell
Date: 16 Dec 12 - 02:16 AM

True-love has been singing this song for many, many years. I've always loved it. He hasn't sung it for a while. He's singing it now as I post. Ahhhh!
Hildebrand also got the words from a recording. He heard it around 1970. He may have miss-heard some words but I'll post them as he heard it because some are slightly different and they seem to make sense.
He heard for the second half of the second verse:

And talk some of the good times
And look for a rainbow sign
But I've loved too long to be that strong
And I hope it doesn't rain.

Thanks for sharing Michael.
Joy

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 09:53 AM

One more Paul Siebel recording is on the Smithsonian Folkways label,
CooP - Fast Folk Musical Magazine (Vol.1, No.2) from 1982:

"Come All Ye Fair and Tender Maidens"
Paul Siebel - vocals, guitar
Tony Markellis - bass
Bill Bachmann - guitar

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jan 13 - 10:06 AM

Yeah, I've heard it as see-bull...

BTW, I still can get thru "Legend of the Captains Daughter" and "Jasper" when in that kinda mood...

Last I hear he was working in a bakery but I'll accept the above info that he's been doing maintenance as the most current info on Paul...

B~

Subject: Paul Siebel
From: PHJim
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 12:00 AM

One of my favourite albums is Woodsmoke & Oranges by Paul Siebel. The first song my wife heard me sing about 33 years ago was Siebel's "Louise", learned from this record. I have two Paul Siebel albums, both on vinyl, but he now seems to have dropped out of sight. Is he still playing? ...still alive?

Subject: RE: Paul Siebel
From: Mark Ross
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 01:55 AM

Paul quit the biz some years ago and now lives in Maryland. An old friend and one of my favorite singers, his songwriting is impeccable. I used to listen to him late at night when we would sit around in the Kettle of Fish Bar in Greenwich Village after closing time and trade songs. Great yodeler too.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: Paul Siebel
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 04:03 PM

see this thread: Info on Paul Siebel

Both the Elektra albums are available on CD, with extra tracks.
Best wishes, Thomas.

Subject: RE: Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 07 Jan 13 - 10:34 PM

The two studio albums are classics. There is also a live album. Anything else?

David E.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Chuck
Date: 13 Jun 14 - 11:24 AM

Paul Siebel was a friend of John Reigle, who used to bring him by my old apartment in Troy, NY in the mid to late '60s. We'd sit around and drink homebrew and sometimes Paul would get his guitar out and play a song. Never knew he was such a noted musician. I hope he's doing well now. I haven't seen Paul (pronounced SEE-bull) or John since those days.

Subject: RE: Info on Paul Siebel
From: GUEST,Jan Hauenstein
Date: 12 May 15 - 10:42 AM

Bride 1945    Paul Siebel

(F) She was so (E)young then,
(Bb) He wasn't much (C)older,
(F) He loved her (E)some then,
(Bb) He was a (C)soldier.
(Dm) She wrote him a (A)letter
Every (Dm)day a(C)cross the (Bb)sea,
(F) He sent her (Dm)postcard
Of the (Bb)boys in his (C)compa(F)ny. (Gm) (C)

(F) The war was (E)over,
(Bb) And yeah, they got (C)married,
(F) Everything´s (E)clover,
(Bb) Her and her (C)Harry.
(Dm) She planned the (A)future,
What´s a (Dm)girl to (C)think a(Bb)bout?
(F) A home in the (Dm)suburbs,
If they could (Bb)learn to (C)do with(F)out. (Gm) (C)
- Instrumental verse -

(F) Rollers and (E)hairpins,
(Bb) She doesn't (C)care now,
(F) Harry's a (E)salesman,
(Bb) He's hardly (C)there now.
(Dm) It's all for (A)nothing,
And the (Dm)kids don't (C)care at (Bb)all,
(F) One just quit (Dm)college,
And the (Bb)youngest (C)left last (F)fall. (Gm) (C)

(F) She was so (E)young then,
(Bb) He wasn't much (C)older,
(F) He loved her (E)some then,
(Bb) He was a (C)soldier.
(Dm) She planned the (A)future,
What´s a (Dm)girl to (C)think a(Bb)bout?
(F) A home in the (Dm)suburbs,
If they could (Bb)learn to (C)do with(F)out.

© Paul Siebel, All Rights Reserved

Mostly Iain Matthews´ version

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Recorded a demo a few weeks ago, will probably be on my next album. Most excellent song.