BS: Well done Canada!

Subject: Well done Canada!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 07:11 PM

From Monday's Guardian - A Canadian law allowing patients with terminal or chronic illnesses to grow and smoke cannabis took effect today.

I just hope Big Brother down South doesn't take umbrage at this.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 07:25 PM

Well spoken, Kevin> I never had an urge to sample the pleasures of Miss Mary-Jane but if it can help alleviate suffering for the terminally ill or help treat glaucoma I say let them use it. Kindest reguards, Neil

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: kendall
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 07:28 PM

I think most thinking Americans would agree.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 31 Jul 01 - 07:29 PM

See thread Smoke da ganja! The provinces must concur. Quebec has refused to implement until further testing is done, and indicated penalties. I doubt Alberta will agree to the plan, either. Some physicians have already indicated that they will refuse to prescribe the drug. Considering the current shortage of physicians, it is difficult to change to another care-giver. There is a long way to go yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 05:48 AM

This raised it's head in the UK and they are currently looking into it further. Always thought it was a practical solution to a range of distressing illnesses.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: kendall
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 06:55 AM

I'll bet that same doctor who would not prescribe pot would prescribe Oxycontin. As usual, follow the money.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Grab
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 07:38 AM

Kendall, they'll prescribe heroin (rebadged as a popular painkiller) quite happily to relieve the pain of these illnesses... Hmm - arrange the words "standard" and "double" to form a well-known phrase or saying...

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Metchosin
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 10:19 AM

Big Brother already does McGrath, check out the Seattle PI article here

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Noreen
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 10:51 AM

See also Smoke da Ganja in Canada! It's legal!

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: LoopySanchez
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 11:58 AM

Excellent point about the Oxycotin, Kendall. The major drug companies can do a good job of persuading doctors into thinking that Oxycotin are safe and useful for pain at $25.00 per pill, but giving a $5.00 doob to a terminally ill patient should be against the law.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Aug 01 - 01:29 PM

And if it's legal to grow it, if the doctor says so, that means there is no cash profit to anyone. What a dreadful prospect.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 08:17 AM

That might just be the real key, McGrath! Anyone can grow and harvest marijuana at home with the greatest of ease, which means it is a product, like air(so far) or sunlight, which cannot be monopolized and controlled by a wealthy industry, and then sold to the public at a handsome profit.

Unless, of course, it is kept illegal.

Bingo!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:19 AM

a product, like air(so far) or sunlight, which cannot be monopolized and controlled by a wealthy industry, and then sold to the public at a handsome profit.

But they're working on it - think of all those people buying bottled water these days.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 10:56 AM

Yes, I thought about pure water too. It was once available almost everywhere for free, but not anymore! Bottled water is becoming the rule for a lot of people in Ontario, and it's pretty well the standard in the 3rd World now. In Toronto they have oxygen bars now, where you can breathe some oxygen in order to recover from the smog...for a fee, of course. People also pay for sun, in a sense, when they go south for a winter vacation...or when they go to a tanning salon.

To run a world on the basis of money may be the worst way yet discovered of organizing a just and sane society, seeing where it inevitably leads.

Here are 2 reasons to do something:

1. It actually needs to be done, for some beneficial reason.

2. It will make someone a profit.

Which of the two is the sane one?

The Incas and the North American Indians had societies which functioned very well, and did not base activities on money exchange, nor were they acquainted with such a concept until the Europeans arrived, and proceeded to destroy everything natural.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 04:39 PM

Didn't the Incas use to have human sacrifices ?

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 04:54 PM

A large Marijuana-growing operation was busted in Alberta today. I doubt that the province's medical assn. will go along with prescription for some time. Currently terminal patients will be gone long before then.

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 12:09 PM

gnu - it was the Aztecs that had a lot of human sacrifices. I don't think the Incas did it much, if at all, but so what if they did? To say a society is superior in one respect, does not mean it is superior in all.

The Spaniards were superior to the Incas in the following areas...weaponry, metallurgy (casting iron), religious fanaticism, human sacrifice (burning people at the stake), seamanship and ship building, horse-back riding, treachery, guile, and resistance to a number of common European diseases.

The Incas were superior in virtually every other way worth mentioning. They had a cleaner, better organized, and far wiser society. They just were not as good at killing people.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Well done Canada!
From: Owlkat
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 08:40 PM

Congratulations are somewhat premature. There are still too many local and federal regulations which make it impossible for those who need it to get it. Possession and cultivation of cannabis is still, for all intents and purposes a criminal offence in Canada. It's a nice thought but don't hold your breath.