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GUEST,Banjo-flower 02 Aug 01 - 06:24 AM
Skipjack K8 02 Aug 01 - 07:07 AM
GUEST,Banjo-flower 02 Aug 01 - 10:50 AM
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GUEST,Banjo-flower 02 Aug 01 - 10:58 AM
Skipjack K8 02 Aug 01 - 11:22 AM
McGrath of Harlow 02 Aug 01 - 02:17 PM
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Tig 02 Aug 01 - 03:14 PM
GUEST,Banjo-flower 02 Aug 01 - 03:34 PM
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Noreen 02 Aug 01 - 05:54 PM
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Subject: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Banjo-flower
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 06:24 AM

how did the session go last night? i hope the dust has settled and good will and harmony has been restored

good will and best wishes to both Mike and Bill

Gerry


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 07:07 AM

Gerry, I hope it was business as usual, and suspect it was, as if it went wrong, I'm sure the aggrieved parties would've been pitching on the old threads. I couldn't make it, as I had to re-fill the reservoir of goodwill with Mrs Skipjack.

Will you be at Wootton on Sunday? I hope to make it.

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Banjo-flower
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:50 AM

Will be at Wootton all being well any chance of persuading Nik-nak and Small piper to go?

Gerry


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: smallpiper
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:53 AM

Fraid not me Mrs Smallpiper is currently raising objections to my frequent absences in the quest for music (she hates diddly diddly music) but I think Niknak might


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Banjo-flower
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:58 AM

sorry to hear that John but we all know that feeling BTW Gregg thanks for the directions i had a lovely day in Whitby

Gerry


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 11:22 AM

Mrs Skipjack wields a mean rolling pin, too, John. I tell her I'm going to a prayer meeting. I won't catch it til' I can't join her in heaven.

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 02:17 PM

Laborare est orare. And that goes for music as well.


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: selby
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 02:22 PM

To answer the origin of the thread, though it may be a good thing there has been a bit of thread creep. The night past well a bit of coolness floating around, a good amount of both catters and muscians that made it which ever view you took hopefully a good night. Keith


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Tig
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 03:14 PM

It was overrun with squeeze boxes - loads of them!!! I think they are breeding because they ranged from very little to VERY big. Whistles, fiddles, banjo, bodhrans and guitars were also in evidence.

Some good tunes around but no songs.

There were a fair few regulars missing for a variety of reasons and the atmosphere was not as comfortable as some weeks but the session carried on regardless.

Let's hope things will get back to normal as people return from their holidays.


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Banjo-flower
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 03:34 PM

Was mr cointhower present?

Gerry


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Mike Cahill
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 04:59 PM

That depends what you mean by "normal"!


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 05:54 PM

Come on then, Mike- how do you think it went last night?

Noreen


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: kendall
Date: 02 Aug 01 - 10:10 PM

I'm hoping to see this place called the JUG.


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,mike Cahill
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 08:28 AM

I've been asked what I thought about Wed night, To be honest, it was a very good night, considering that Chris and Geraldene, Jane and Geoff, Eric and some others were away on holiday the place was quite full. Most were regulars but with a couple of visiting, or new musicians, I hope they felt that they had been made welcome. The evening was well paced, with a wide range of tunes for all levels of ability, played at a variety of speeds so people could join in, but the music wasn't "dumbed down" in any way. There were gaps between the sets for talking, and people quietened down when the next tune started. There were a lot of boxes, but it will take a while for people with quieter instruments to get the idea that they will be heard, and start to come back. Sam and Andrew from Wakefield went into a huddle over an Accordion Bass pattern, which went right over my head I think they were talking in English, but wouldn't swear to it. Some people who wanted to talk went into the other room for a while, Thank you for the courtesy, but I don't think that anyone felt inhibited. The music was winding down by about 10.45, and people seemed happy enough with the night. Anyone else there have a view?


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 01:54 PM

Thanks for the reply, Mike.

Noreen


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 02:12 PM

Having read all of these threads and refrained from comment....I will now.

I too hope things have worked out and after a period of "reacquaintance" all will be back to the good things I hear of the Jug and all the folks who go there. As one of only 3 Americans to have a "Yorkshire Gathering Badge/Pin" I am happy to have ever been included in your thoughts......and on Wednesdays, I often think of all of you and this mystical place I hope to see sometime. I look forward to a session at the Jug myself.

Growth can be by turns, both wonderful and terrifying. I hope it all goes well and that wonderful continues to gain. My very best to all of you.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 04:03 PM

Thanks, Spaw, lad. Godspeed your attendance. That will be one mother of a session.

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: M.Ted
Date: 03 Aug 01 - 09:44 PM

Troubles and all, it seems too good to be true--Mike, would you name a few of the tunes played, just to churn our imaginations a bit? I sounds like a little bit of heaven(even with the squeezeboxes)!


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: selby
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 03:14 AM

After much head scratching Harvest Home, Trumpet Hornpipe, Solders Joy, Boys of Blue Hill,Fiery Clock Face, Primrose Polka, The Dit Dit Tune,and loads of others I just can't remember.I am just recolecting Winster Gallop twice.Salmon Tails Donkey Riding. Thats the best I can do at the minute. Keith


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Banjo-flower
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 03:42 AM

the dit dit tune must be the most apt title for Johnny Ryan's polka yet

regards Gerry


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Mike Cahill
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 12:59 PM

and Will's Way, and those french tunes. Lot's of others as well,but I'm crap at remembering tune names, I just know 'em when someone plays the first few bar's


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 05:47 PM

I refrained from commenting on the other thread as I hate getting involved in such things. It was rather a pleasent night..I counted 5 accordions Inc mikes button one and 5 melodeons!! I should have brought Jellybeams accordion aswell!!!!

I apologise in advance Mike but I have to say this. You said about there being a few visiting musicians and new musicians there and that you hoped they felt they had been made welcome.....but I thought that was what you were niggling at the other week. the fact that you didn't like bill and other people bringing friends along to play.

I'd say that all in all the nite was great and there was a nice mix of music with bits of discussions in between, that was usually musical aswell....Norman and Andrew trying to explain why putting a dmaj7 in the changeover was a good idea...that all completely flew over my head and sams aswell I think....I just play the thing!!

See y'all on wednesday....with accordion in tow!!

Emma xxx

Ps - BANJO FLOWER - Mr. lookatmeimthrowingcoinsatkidsinsteadoflettingbillaskthempolitelytobequietwhileasongwassung accordion player was not there.

THE BANDIT WAS UNPLUGGED ALL NITE!!


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 09:20 PM

Oh well, I'd managed to not read MC for about a day and I only seem to keep coming back for these threads. Here is what I will try to make a final comment from me:

JeZeBel, I can't remember reading one single instance of Mike objecting to anyone bringing anyone along to play music.

Anyway, here's a little tale from me. I was invited to a session in the Bear and Bells, Beccles on Friday night which I think was a one off event or idea during a carnival.

I got down there, the pub was full and there was a fair ammount of noise in the pub. There were four musicians when I arrived and although the pub was busy, space was made for me and later for a few other arrivals so that the musicians could all sit together. We ended up with 9 players, 3 of whom I'd met before.

Anyway, even though the pub itself was noisy, we were in a corner where we could here each other and things went really well - just trying to think of a few tunes... Willa Fjord, St Annes, Tobins, Lark in The Morning, Salamanca, Silver Spear, Miss McCleods, 9 Pts of Roguery, Muscical Priest, Cooleys, Athol Highlanders, Jig Of Slurs, Dingle Regatta, The Scholar, The Traveler, various polkas... were some of the ones I remember joining in with.

Perhaps the most amazing thing to me was the "audience" decided (I guess as it was a carnival night) to have a whip round for us and we each made £8 on the night (£72 collected for us - plus the landlord got us all a drink).

OK this was exceptional and I can't remember experiencing a night quite like this one before but it is something that obviously can happen on the right night when others get into the music...

I also made a few new friends on the night, in particular, a fiddler who also turned out to be an excellent tenor banjo player - he played mine for a couple of tunes and sounded superb. Another young lad who had a guitar with him also played my banjo and did really well...

Apart from me, there was one other person that since meeting him a few months ago, I learned was a Mudcatter and the rest to the best of my knowledge aren't.

Mudcat can be a great place to make new contacts and new friends - people with similar interests, etc. but life outside can also be great.

I guess my bottom line is: Musicians with Mudcat could be great; Mudcat with Musicans could be great and in both cases, people can gain. But to get the most out of situations, perhaps the main focus of an evening should always be remembered. That way, everyone can enjoy the night.

This IMO goes for any venue.

Jon


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Aug 01 - 09:59 PM

That sounds like a good night Jon, I have just started going to a session in Hull, it is really good, about half of the regulars are mudcatters, and half are not, everybody gets on really well, I have never seen anyone argue.We talk about stuff but the music always comes first ,If you ever visit Hull, you should go, I think you would like it and I know you will be welcome.john


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 05 Aug 01 - 05:58 PM

Bloody hell we go away for a fortnight and what have you all been up to???? Normal service will be resumed no doubt!


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: nutty
Date: 05 Aug 01 - 06:02 PM

24 hours is a long time on Mudcat ......
A fortnight!! ...... thats a lifetime


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: JeZeBeL
Date: 05 Aug 01 - 09:11 PM

I'm sorry Jon but that's just the way it sounded when mike said about bill bringing visiting musicians like yourself with him. I don't see the problem with bringing friends along to try new sessions and hope people don't feel that way when my friends take me to other sessions.

Emma xxx


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Mike Cahill
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 03:39 AM

Please read, and digest before commenting


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,fiddlesticks
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 11:26 AM

As I suggested in the "other" thread, digest yes, but see how this started. It's fascinating.< href=http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=36915#514130>click


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,fiddlesticks
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 11:28 AM

click sorry.


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: John Routledge
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 01:25 PM

Yes Fiddlesticks

It is fascinating - Regretable but fascinating

John(speed the healing process)Routledge


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,Mike Cahill
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM

No Fiddlesticks it began here:-

Blue Clicky thing "Dear Dr Mudcat"


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 02:58 PM

And let us end it here Mike. We all agree to disagree about many things in life and from these threads is obvious that some agree with points you have made and others do not. There is not a right or wrong here, its a discussion forum. Good health!


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Subject: RE: how was the Jug last night
From: GUEST,fiddlesticks
Date: 06 Aug 01 - 04:29 PM

Right you are Mike, clickand a bloody good thread it is. Interesting how the MC allegory immediately comes to mind, but that's life isn't it? I used the word "hijacked" in the thread I started and I guess that was a bit ill-advised, because although I was prompted by the "jug" thread I didn't realize how heated it really was, and that was my mistake. You pointed out how important the "group dynamics" among the musicians in a session are, and that's spot on. Once that goes I don't think a session can be saved, and it's time to move on. It's not fun, but it happens all the time.

Fiddlesticks


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