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Origins: The Parting Glass

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FAREWELL
PARTING GLASS


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: GUEST,P
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 07:02 PM

Becky Bishops version is very unique. She has a voice that grows on you, cutting and somewhat gritty.

http://www.beckybishop.net/music.html


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Acme
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 07:53 PM

There's a beautiful version of the song on Paddy Graber's CD released a few years ago. Stewart Hendrickson was involved with that one. You can search for it and some discussion here at Mudcat.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 08:13 PM

As the thread has surfaced again, I thought I'd put in the version as I remember it. I've already quoted the DT version, and annotated changes, but it makes sense to show the song as a complete item. I repeat that this is not an identifiable version (or variation) merely as I remember it. But, I list above some of the reasons I think it may be an improvement on the DT version.

THE PARTING GLASS

Of all the money that e'er I spent
I've spent it in good company
And all the harm that ever I did
It was, alas, to none but me
And all I've said for want of wit
To memory now I can't recall
So fill to me the parting glass
Good night and joy be with you all

If I had money enough to spend
And leisure for to sit awhile
There is a fair maid in this town
That sorely does my heart beguile
Her rosy cheeks and ruby lips
I own she has my heart in thrall
So fill to me the parting glass
Good night and joy be with you all

Oh, all the comrades that e'er I had
They're sorry for my going away
And all the sweethearts that e'er I kissed
Would wish me one more night to stay
But since it falls unto my lot
That I should rise, and you should not
I'll gently rise and softly call
Good night and joy be with you all


CHEERS
Nigel


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Subject: ADD Version: The Parting Glass (Clancy)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 03:02 AM

I like my songs clean and simple, and one of the least-complicated versions is the one sung so often by the Clancy Brothers:

THE PARTING GLASS

Oh, all the money that e'er I spent,
I spent it in good company,
And all the harm that e'er I've done,
Alas, it was to none but me.
And all I've done for want of wit
To memory now I can't recall,
So fill to me the parting glass,
Good night and joy be with you all.

Oh, all the comrades that e'er I had,
Are sorry for my going away,
And all the sweethearts that e'er I had
Would wish me one more day to stay.
But since it falls unto my lot
That I should rise and you should not,
I'll gently rise and softly call,
"Good night, and joy be with you all."

Source: The Irish Songbook, by the Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem (1979, Oak Publications), pp 182-183.


Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song:

    Parting Glass, The

    DESCRIPTION: The singer has done some ills and foolish things, but never with ill purpose and only to himself. He misses his girl. He would spend money on good company if he had it. Conclusion: "So fill to me the parting glass, Goodnight and joy be with you all."
    AUTHOR: unknown
    EARLIEST DATE: before 1900 (broadside, Bodleian 2806 c.15(114))
    KEYWORDS: drink farewell nonballad
    FOUND IN: Ireland Canada(Newf) Britain(Scotland(Aber))
    REFERENCES (6 citations):
    GreigDuncan8 1531, "The Parting Glass" (2 texts, 2 tunes)
    SHenry H769, p. 65, "The Parting Glass" (1 text, 1 tune)
    OLochlainn 69, "The Parting Glass" (1 text, 1 tune)
    Peacock, pp. 573-574, "The Parting Glass" (1 text, 1 tune)
    DT, PARTGLAS*
    ADDITIONAL: Bell/O Conchubhair, Traditional Songs of the North of Ireland, pp. 82-83, "The Parting Glass" (1 text, 1 tune)

    Roud #3004
    RECORDINGS:
    The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, "The Parting Glass" (on IRClancyMakem01)
    BROADSIDES:
    Bodleian, 2806 c.15(114), "The Parting Glass," J.F. Nugent & Co. (Dublin) , 1850-1899; also Harding B 26(498), Harding B 26(499), 2806 c.15(13), Harding B 19(89), "The Parting Glass"
    CROSS-REFERENCES:
    cf. "Over the Hills to My Nanny, O" (tune, per broadsides Bodleian 2806 c.15(114), Bodleian 2806 c.15(13), Bodleian Harding B 19(89))
    ALTERNATE TITLES:
    Good Nicht an' Joy Be Wi' You A'
    NOTES: This song is lyric enough that it can import elements from almost anywhere; the Sam Henry version, for instance, starts with a verse best known from "The Barnyards o' Delgaty" ("I can drink and no be drunk..."), and also includes a bit of "My Dearest Dear." I suspect there are versions which elaborate on the girl the singer can't have. - RBW
    An argument could easily be made that "Guid Nicht an' Joy Be Wi' You A'" and "The Parting Glass" are the same song. Two verses often show up in both songs: "All the money e'er I had, I spent it in good company, And all the harm that e'er I did, I hope excused I will be, And what I've done for want of wit, to my memory I cann't recall, So fill us up a parting glass -- good night and joy be with you all," and "If I had money for to spend, And leisure time to set a while, There is a fair maid in this town, that surely has me heart beguile: Her rosy cheeks - and her ruby lips I own she has my heart enthrall'd; Then fill to me the parting glass, Good night - and joy be with you all." The difference is in the remaining verses. "The Parting Glass" is concerned with a lover missed; "Guid Night, and Joy Be With You all" is about leaving a party, or emigrating, or dying, and leaving good friends behind.
    Description from Peacock's version: She hopes he won't go far away. He intends to leave her "when and where all stormy winds blow." She dreams he has been "pressed ... gone on board ... to serve his royal majesty." - BS
    Last updated in version 2.5
    File: HHH769

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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 03:12 AM

Somebody named Jürgen Kloss did a lot of research this song. Take a look at what he's done: (click).

Nice job, Jürgen!

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 05:25 AM

paddymac mentioned the version used in the film 'Waking Ned'... that was by The High Kings who use it as a finale for all their live shows........ take a look at how their show ends.. watch till the end.... amazing!!!!
High Kings... The Parting Glass.

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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 09:40 AM

He's also examined "The Buffalo Skinners," "Mary of the Wild Moor," "The Water is Wide," and "Lady Franklin's Lament."

Looks like splendid work. If anybody thinks song histories are easy to research and write, they should guess again!

I hope you're reading this, Jurgen.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 09:47 AM

Easily the best version is the one which Len Graham and Joe Holmes recorded for the Topic LP After Dawning. It has long been deleted by Topic and I don't know where you would get a copy nowadays. However Len says he is planning to issue Joe's entire recorded repertoire on CD. So perhaps that little gem will be included.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Micca
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 11:35 AM

For sheer beauty of tone and simplicity of presentation,I don't think the rendition given at the Late Night Extra at the 2009 Getaway by Elizabeth LaPrelle could be beaten, it was perfect!!,and would bring a tear to a glass eye.
I hope fervently that she will record it SOON!!!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: GUEST,Hilary
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 12:12 PM

Loreena McKennitt sings "The Parting Glass," on The Wind that Shakes the Barley.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 01:09 PM

The link to the history of "The Parting Glass," by Jurgen Kloss, linked above by Joe Offer, is important especially for the lyrics and music, some complete and some partial, of similar songs and of variants of the song itself.
The list of references, indicating those that are online, is particularly useful.

Thanks, Joe, for linking this website; his other articles are all worth reading.
'Home' for the site


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: Chris_S
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 02:49 PM

Another vote for the Voice Squad but Cara Dillon comes close on the excellent Hill Of Thieves album.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: mayomick
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 03:12 PM

And now the end is near
it's time to face the final curtain
my friend........
oops


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: RTim
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 03:42 PM

The Parting Glass.
- as by Len Graham on his recording - 'In Full Flight' (2008)

A man may drink and not be drunk
A man may fight and not be slain
A man may court a pretty girl
And perhaps be welcome back again.
But as it has so ordered been
Be a time to rise and a time to fall.
So fill to me the parting glass
Goodnight and joy be with you all.

If I had the money for to spend
I would spend it in good company
I, and all the harm that I have done
I hope itÕs pardoned I will be.
What I have done for want if (?in?) *
To memory I can't recall
So fill to me the parting glass
Goodnight and joy be with you all.

My dearest dear the time draws near
When here on longer I can stay
There's none the comrade I leave behind
But is griev'ed that I am going away
But as it has so ordered be
What is once past can't be recalled
So fill to me the parting glass
Goodnight and joy be with you all.

* very unclear on recording.
---------------------------------
Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: stallion
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 01:54 PM

Tim, can't get it to scan, I break out into Barnyards of Delgaty!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: RTim
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 01:59 PM

Stallion (Pete)
These Irish are damn clever!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: MartinRyan
Date: 20 Oct 14 - 02:15 PM

You can now hear The Voice Squad (with a little help from a guy called Frank Harte!) singing The Parting Glass in an archive recording at The Góilín Song Project.

Click here

Regards


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: mayomick
Date: 21 Oct 14 - 01:13 PM

I like the Sinatra version (shhh don't tell Q or MGM )

And now the end is near....


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: EBarnacle
Date: 08 Jan 16 - 10:40 AM

There was a presentation about the Easter Rebellion on PBS last night, promoting the DVD's of a current play now being presented on both sides of the Pond. The Parting Glass was the closing piece.

That High Kings link above is very good.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Feb 16 - 12:44 PM

same tune as just as the tide is flowing.


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Subject: RE: Origins: The Parting Glass
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 24 Feb 16 - 08:33 PM

MartinRyan - 20 Oct 14 -

Great. Something about the Voice Squad/ Frank Harte track that sent a shiver through me.


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