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Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)

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schmidt@paddy.de 16 Jan 98 - 03:45 PM
Susan of DT 16 Jan 98 - 06:39 PM
schmidt@paddy.de 17 Jan 98 - 05:31 AM
Louis Killen 03 Feb 98 - 04:26 AM
Bruce O. 03 Feb 98 - 12:43 PM
Bruce O. 03 Feb 98 - 01:04 PM
Al B 04 Feb 98 - 09:50 AM
Wolfgang 04 Feb 98 - 10:21 AM
nycajun1@gte.net 26 Oct 99 - 01:08 AM
Doctor John 26 Oct 99 - 12:38 PM
Jack (Who is called Jack) 26 Oct 99 - 01:06 PM
lamarca 26 Oct 99 - 02:21 PM
Sandy Paton 26 Oct 99 - 07:59 PM
Jack (Who is called Jack) 27 Oct 99 - 12:33 PM
Graham Pirt 28 Oct 99 - 05:51 AM
Bugsy 28 Oct 99 - 06:13 AM
Liam's Brother 28 Oct 99 - 10:44 AM
Ewan McVicar 29 Oct 99 - 09:30 AM
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Subject: searching: "school days over"
From: schmidt@paddy.de
Date: 16 Jan 98 - 03:45 PM

I'm looking for the song "school days over" sung i. E. by the early Dubliners. Sounds like: "School days over, come on then John, time to getting your pit-boots on. On with your sack and your moleskin trousers, it's time you'll be on your way, time you will learning the pitman's job and earning the pitman's pay"

Anyone can help me? Thanx a lot!


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From: Susan of DT
Date: 16 Jan 98 - 06:39 PM

It's in the database under "Schooldays End" or search for pitman's


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From: schmidt@paddy.de
Date: 17 Jan 98 - 05:31 AM

Thank you Susan!


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From: Louis Killen
Date: 03 Feb 98 - 04:26 AM

Here's a little more information on "School Days Over" It was written by Ewan MacColl for his radio ballad "The Big Hewer" broadcast on the BBC in 1961. I had the great honor and pleasure of performing in that program and sang the first verse. The 2nd was sung by Ewan and the third by A.L.(Bert)Lloyd. In between the verses was "actuality" - sounds of men and boys talking about what it was like to go down into the pit for the first time. The program was eventually released on a Decca subsidiary whose name escapes me at the moment but it was the same that put out a couple of Peter Bellamy's records (perhaps some other can supply the name). It might be possible to get it from Decca or the BBC. It was a good program and ranked up there with "Singing the Fishing" and "The Travelling People", both of which supplied great songs to the folk movement. Listen to Ian Robb on his CD ( the one before "Finest Kind") singing "Go Down", also from the "Big Hewer"


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From: Bruce O.
Date: 03 Feb 98 - 12:43 PM

Louis, someone asked me about a month ago if I knew what had happened to you. I said as far as I knew you were still on Bain. Is. My sister moved away from there about 2 years ago. (I'm originally from Bremerton.)


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From: Bruce O.
Date: 03 Feb 98 - 01:04 PM

Louis, If you want a long text of a very old Northumberland ballad, "Go to the kye with me Johnny", from a Scots MS of the 1740's reply 'yes' to olsonw@erols.com so I can get an e-mail address for you and sent it on. The song is set a little west of Newcastle. Dave Harker's edition of John Bell's Newcastle MSS has a fragment, as do a couple of Scots works, and only tune I know of came from a Scots work. [I have not gotten ahold of an edition of the Atkinson MS, which could conceivable have a Northumberland tune for it.]


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Subject: RE: Schoolday's End
From: Al B
Date: 04 Feb 98 - 09:50 AM

Dick Gaughan does a wonderful version of this. Have a look on his hom epage for details. Unfortunately I do not have it with me at the momant.


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From: Wolfgang
Date: 04 Feb 98 - 10:21 AM

Dick Gaughan does it on "True and Bold"


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From: nycajun1@gte.net
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 01:08 AM

The song "School Days Over" was written by Ewan McColl. Do you know the chords perhaps? And if you do, could you be kind enough to e-mail them? Thanks much - John DeSantis


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From: Doctor John
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 12:38 PM

Dave Burland does a wonderful version of this; I have an air shot but don't know if he recorded it. Dr John


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From: Jack (Who is called Jack)
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 01:06 PM

I got chords at home. I'll dig em out and post.


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From: lamarca
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 02:21 PM

Topic has re-released CD editions of all 8 of the Radio Ballads; Wally Macnow at Camsco.com has them. They are truly wonderful, and a must-listen for anyone planning to perform one of Ewan's songs, as you will understand the background, history and emotion behind the songs much better after hearing them interwoven with the words of the people he was writing about!


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From: Sandy Paton
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 07:59 PM

That's not a "sack" in the first verse, however. It's a "sark" (shirt). I've heard a lot of the words of this song misunderstood. One singer I know used to sing "hip boots" instead of "pit boots," etc.

Good to see you're checking up on us, Lou! You can and, I hope, will contribute a great deal of value to this forum.

Sandy


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From: Jack (Who is called Jack)
Date: 27 Oct 99 - 12:33 PM

Here's the chords as I know em, in a key I can sing. Ye might have ter bump it up or down 'less yer a deep baritone like me.

Schooldays (C) over, come (Am) on the John (Dm) Time to be gettin' yer (F) pit boots (G) on (C) On with yer sark and yer (Am) moleskin (Em) trousers (Am) Time you were (Em) on (Am) yer (G) way. (C) Time you were learnin' a (Am) pit mans job and (Dm) Earnin' a pit man's (G) pay


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From: Graham Pirt
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 05:51 AM

Hi Louis

Nice to see you on Mudcat. Hope you're keeping well and look forward to seeing you sometime

Graham


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From: Bugsy
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 06:13 AM

Slight threadcreap here (or Creapthread?) Sandy's post reminds me of the pianist in the restaurant that always used to sing "Eva".....

"Eva picture paints a thousaned words......"

cheers

Bugsy


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From: Liam's Brother
Date: 28 Oct 99 - 10:44 AM

The original label was Argo, as I recall.

We were talking not too long ago about the fact that the folk-styled songs of certain composer-singers are often sung better by others than by the composer. That was hardly the case with Ewan MacColl. He was something!

All the best,
Dan Milner


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From: Ewan McVicar
Date: 29 Oct 99 - 09:30 AM

Another fine recording of this was made by Mary Black. Much recommended, though she turns anthracite into atracite.


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From: GUEST,vaubaill@format.obspm.fr
Date: 20 Jan 00 - 10:51 AM

Hi everybody !!

I am a french student, and am looking for the words of the song "School Days Over", sung by Mary BLACK (CD : "Song for Ireland"), just because, as a french, I don't understand everything. Does anybody fnow where I can find it ?

Thanks !


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From: GUEST,Remi from Paris
Date: 20 Jan 00 - 10:50 PM

Also recorded by the much regreted Luke Kelly on "Luke Kelly and friends" and "Luke Kelly - worker's songs".


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From: Wolfgang
Date: 21 Jan 00 - 08:14 AM

here Wolfgang


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From: GUEST,vaubaill@format.obspm.fr
Date: 31 Jan 00 - 08:15 AM

Thank you very much Wolfgang !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: GUEST,kAREN Woods Duffy
Date: 09 Oct 10 - 10:56 AM

I haven't read all the responses here so apologies if I am a bit late with this info. The song has been recorder by Damien Dempsey and I think there is probably a Clancy Brothers recording as well as the Dubliners but definitely you can try Damien Dempsey on his album 'The Rocky Road' a great artist if you haven't discovered him already.....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 04:28 AM

@Sandy Paton
Date: 26 Oct 99 - 07:59 PM

Is a 'sark' a specific type of shirt, or a local word for a shirt in general? Just curious - the old interweb onl comes up with references to the Channel Island!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 04:30 AM

By the way, the song was recently performed by The Chieftains with The Low Anthem on the Dave Letterman show (see Utube)!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 05:39 AM

Sark is normally a shirt in general, as in 'Cutty Sark', a short shift or shirt, though like all words it can take on specific local meetings.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 06:15 AM

But alas Guest, no use addressing questions @ Sandy Paton: he has been dead for three years!.

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Schooldays Over?/Schooldays End (MacColl)
From: harmonic miner
Date: 05 Jul 12 - 08:56 AM

Oh, sorry to hear that Michael.
And thanks Dave for your reply


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