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Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...'
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YO HO HO
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(origins) Origins: Fifteen Men on a Dead Man's Chest (25)
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Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' DigiTrad: YO HO HO Related thread: (origins) Origins: Fifteen Men on a Dead Man's Chest (25) |
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Subject: lyric search : : The Derelict From: bardic bawd Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:18 PM Sung at End sing at Pa. Ren. Faire 2000. First chorus ends: Fifteen men on a dead man's chest , Yo, ho, ho and a bottle of rum. Drink and the devil had done for the rest, Yo, ho,ho and a bottle of rum ! |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: MMario Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:20 PM oh jill? JILL! you there? |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: MMario Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:22 PM who sings it? group ensemble or a particular group? I will be seeing several people who "do" PA this weekend. Including a bunch of musicians. |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: nutty Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:29 PM It's in the DT under YO HO HO |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: masato sakurai Date: 10 Aug 01 - 02:03 PM It is quoted in Stevenson's Treasure Islands several times. This song often called "Yo Ho Ho" is sung in an Allison and Walker musical (1901) based on it. There are at least two MIDI sites playing the song. Sorry, I've forgotten where. "Dead Man's Chest," I believe, was originally the name of an island, where 15 men were deserted.
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Subject: Lyr Add: YO HO HO (Allison and Waller) From: Naemanson Date: 10 Aug 01 - 02:39 PM Here is what is in the DT. The actual name of the song is Derelict. I sing it without the verse about the woman. That just doesn't seem to fit IMHO. I introduce this song with the disclaimer that it is a folk song that has been rated Arrrrgh! It is great fun to sing and audiences love to join in on the "Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum" line
YO HO HO
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: MMario Date: 10 Aug 01 - 02:52 PM it will be interesting to see if this is actually what they sing... |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:11 PM Also known as "The Deadmen's Song" in my source, American Ballads compiled by Charles O'Brien Kennedy, solely attributed to Young Ewing Allison. Great for singing around the campfire as it's burning low. |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict From: GUEST,guest chip2447 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:33 AM There is a midwestern Renfest group known as the Jolly Rogers, out of the Kansas City area that performs said song in which they include the Robert Louis Stevenson lines about the "Bleary eyed pirate far gone on rum". I don't know how to do a blicky but you can find them at Chivalry.com. There is probably a MP3 of the song and lyrics as well... chip2447 |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict (Yo Ho Ho) From: GUEST,Jim P Date: 06 Dec 08 - 11:00 AM I was researching this song and thought that it would be nice to know what the original tune was, and if it bore any relation to the tune I usually associate with it. Well, it does and it doesn't. There's a small book dealing with the poem "The Derelict" and the song "A Piratical Ballad" at The Gutenberg Project here: The Dead Men's Song which contains both sheet music and a link to a midi of the original, which had lyrics substantially different from the version we know today. The book is short and an entertaining read to anyone who's enjoyed this poem/song. To Naemanson, if you're still around, the verse about the woman was a late addition to the poem, and placed in italics as no women were ever mentioned in Treasure Island, which contained the couplet that Allison used as the genesis for the poem. Allison felt, though, that since Billy Bones was talking about events that took place in HIS past, inclusion of a woman would be permissible. Also surprising, the song does not appear in any opera (or operetta) as is stated nearly everywhere. It was a one-off between the collaborators Allison and Waller, who did indeed write a couple of operettas together. Reading about them in the above book, one is apt to think the obscurity of their work is generally well deserved. Of course with the notable exception of this wonderful song. |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict (Yo Ho Ho) From: GUEST,Jim P Date: 06 Dec 08 - 11:05 AM Oh, and I also found this on Google Books: Treasure Island Which purports to be the "real" sea shanty that Billy Bones was talking about, but which is surely an invention of the note-writer's acquaintance. Interesting nonetheless. |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict (Yo Ho Ho) From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:54 AM Thanks, Jim, for the update. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict (Yo Ho Ho) From: Jim Dixon Date: 08 Dec 08 - 10:58 AM We therefore made all sail towards the Dead-man's Chest, a rock so called, from its singular shape, which lies about three leagues from the main-land, and nearly a-breast of the bay where we wished to go. This rock, when seen from a distance, appears a flat surface, almost level with the surface of the water; but, on a nearer approach, it assumes a regular shape, which has been compared, by one of the Spanish fathers who first visited the country, to a table with a coffin lying upon it; whence it has its name, in Spanish el Casa di Muerti, which means nothing more than a coffin, but, literally translated, is the Dead-man's chest, its present English name. The idea is gloomy, but the resemblance appeared to me very striking. --from A Voyage in the West Indies By John Augustine Waller (London: Sir Richard Phillips and Co., 1820) * САХА DE MUERTOS, or DEAD MAN'S CHEST.—This island is on the South side of Porto Rico, and bears E. ½ S., 36 miles, from Cape Roxo. When made, it appears in the form of a wedge. The North end is high, the centre low, and the South end has a sugar-loaf mountain, which at a distance appears a detached island. The anchorage is on the West side, off the low land, half a mile off shore, in 8 fathoms, in the following bearings:—South-east point of the small island, connected to Саха by a reef above water, S.W.; the only sandy bay S. by E.; the North-west point and Northern peak in one, East. There is no danger on the West side of this island, and off the low land the soundings are regular; but to the Northward of it the water is deeper, and you will have 17 fathoms close to the shore. Off the Southward of the island there is a shoal, which breaks, about half a mile off shore. --from The American Coast Pilot by Edmund March Blunt (New York: Edmund and George W. Blunt, 1857) |
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Subject: RE: lyric search : : The Derelict (Yo Ho Ho) From: Jack Campin Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:52 AM Not visible on Google Earth - that area is a blue blur. While we're on such matters, anybody seen the full text of the medical journal article "Rectal impalement by pirate ship"? |
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Subject: Lyr Add: DERELICT (Young E. Allison, 1901) From: Jim Dixon Date: 09 Dec 08 - 08:00 PM Copied from The Dead Men's Song: Being the Story of a Poem and a Reminiscent Sketch of its Author Young Ewing Allison by Champion Ingraham Hitchcock (Louisville, KY:—, 1914) at Gutenberg.org. This has a few words different from the DT (and above version) not the least of which is "the dead man's chest" rather than "a dead man's chest". "The" makes sense if "dead man's chest" designates a particular rock or island, and anyway, that's the way R. L. Stevenson wrote it. DERELICT: A Reminiscence of "Treasure Island" Young E. Allison [1901] Fifteen men on the dead man's chest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Drink and the devil had done for the rest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! (Cap'n Billy Bones his song.) [1] Fifteen men on the dead man's chest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Drink and the devil had done for the rest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! The mate was fixed by the bos'n's pike, The bos'n brained with a marlinspike And Cookey's throat was marked belike It had been gripped By fingers ten; And there they lay, All good dead men, Like break-o'-day in a boozing-ken— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! [2] Fifteen men of a whole ship's list— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Dead and bedamned, and the rest gone whist!— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! The skipper lay with his nob in gore Where the scullion's axe his cheek had shore— And the scullion he was stabbed times four. And there they lay, And the soggy skies Dripped all day long In up-staring eyes— At murk sunset and at foul sunrise— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! [3] Fifteen men of 'em stiff and stark— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Ten of the crew had the Murder mark— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! 'Twas a cutlass swipe, or an ounce of lead, Or a yawing hole in a battered head— And the scuppers glut with a rotting red. And there they lay— Aye, damn my eyes!— All lookouts clapped On paradise— All souls bound just contrariwise— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! [4] Fifteen men of 'em good and true— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Every man jack could ha' sailed with Old Pew— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! There was chest on chest full of Spanish gold, With a ton of plate in the middle hold, And the cabins riot of stuff untold. And they lay there That had took the plum, With sightless glare And their lips struck dumb, While we shared all by the rule of thumb— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! [5] More was seen through the sternlight screen— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Chartings ondoubt where a woman had been— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! A flimsy shift on a bunker cot, With a thin dirk slot through the bosom spot And the lace stiff-dry in a purplish blot. Or was she wench... Or some shuddering maid...? That dared the knife And that took the blade! By God! she was stuff for a plucky jade— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! [6] Fifteen men on the dead man's chest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! Drink and the devil had done for the rest— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! We wrapped 'em all in a mains'l tight, With twice ten turns of a hawser's bight, And we heaved 'em over and out of sight— With a yo-heave-ho! And a fare-you-well! And a sullen plunge In the sullen swell Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell— Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: Lighter Date: 27 May 21 - 11:51 AM "Dead Man's Chest" is, more precisely, a rocky island in the British Virgin Islands, about six miles southeast of Tortola: tinyurl.com/v66ubhm3 It's been renamed "Dead Chest Island." No sexism in pirate waters, matey. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: Nigel Parsons Date: 27 May 21 - 12:27 PM Not quite what is being looked for: "Here's to the feet that have walked the plank Yo-ho for the dead man's throttle. And here's to the corpses afloat in the tank And the dead man's teeth in the bottle." Dr Christopher Syn (written by Russell Thorndike) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: EBarnacle Date: 27 May 21 - 01:23 PM I believe Dan Aguiar used to sing this with the X Seamen's Institute on occasion. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: Lighter Date: 27 May 21 - 02:45 PM Allison evidently wrote a shorter version in 1891 and continued to expand it. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch Date: 27 May 21 - 06:49 PM Dead Chest Island, British Virgin Islands “Stevenson found the name "Dead Man's Chest" among a list of island names in a book by Charles Kingsley and said "Treasure Island came out of Kingsley's At Last: A Christmas in the West Indies (1871); where I got the 'Dead Man's Chest' - that was the seed". Kingsley had written in At Last: "Unfortunately, English buccaneers have since then [1493] have given to most of them [the Virgin Islands] less poetic names. The Dutchman's Cap, Broken Jerusalem, The Dead Man's Chest*, Rum Island, and so forth, mark a time and a race more prosaic, but still more terrible, though not one whit more wicked and brutal, than the Spanish conquistadores." *I'm pretty sure it was Kingsley himself who mixed-up/changed the name. Afaik, BVI has always been “Dead Chest Island” in English. Caja de Muertos Fwiw: There are 'coffin islands' all over the globe. The local Creole translates more like French coffre (coffer) which can also double for coffin or chest like English. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: Lighter Date: 27 May 21 - 09:03 PM "Dead Chest Island" does appear before 1820. But so does "Dead Man's Chest": John Augustine Waller, "A Voyage in the West Indies" (1807): "We therefore made all sail towards the Dead-man's Chest, a rock so called, from its singular shape, which lies about three leagues from the main-land. ...It has its name, in Spanish, el Casa di Muerti [sic], which means nothing more than a coffin, but, literally translated, is the Dead-man's Chest, its present English name." "Dead Chest Island," however, is hardly coffin-shaped. "DMC" is a different place, not far from Ponce Bay on the south coast of Puerto Rico. Its name on Google maps is "Isla Caja de Muertos." It partially resembles a coffin. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch Date: 28 May 21 - 02:48 AM Yup, sorry if I wasn't clear about that. Puerto Rico's 'coffin' is a different island and both place names existed well before Kingsley/Stevenson. Kingsley was referring to the BVI, not Puerto Rico and RLS got it from Kingsley. Where Kinglsey got it from... only he knows. Deadman's Beach on adjacent Peter Island is almost certainly taken from the RLS fiction/local fakelore. Supposedly where the drowned bodies of the pirates washed up after trying to escape. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Derelict: 'Yo ho ho and a bottle...' From: Lighter Date: 28 May 21 - 07:18 AM My guess is that Kingsley was simply misinformed. |
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