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Subject: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Celtic Soul Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:43 AM John Wayne as "Genghis Kahn". Oh *my*, but that was amusing! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:52 AM Oh Celtic Soul....this one will go. Always popular. There are so many that it's a tough choice. You have started off well with the Duke....that was terrible. Let me throw in another biggie. Did anyone see "Teahouse of the August Moon?" It's a cute book and a very funny play by John Patrick about the occupation of Okinawa after WWII and the problems had by a Captain in trying to make a village conform to "American" planning and rules. The narrator is also a character that has a major part but also speaks to the audience. He's the Okinawan interpreter for the Captain and never quite gets it right....a very good role. The movie version cast Marlon Brando in the role of Sakini, the interpreter. Marlon Brando? As a small Japanese guy? Surprisingly, he does okay, but it's one of the worst miscasts of all time...........I mean it wasn't like there were no Japanese actors available. The movie also starred Glenn Ford as the Captain and in true Glenn Ford fashion, his performance was worse than awful which made Brando look somewhat better. This play used to be popular in community and HS/college productions and at least once that I know of, there was a far worse miscast than Brando. This actor was 6 foot tall and weighed about 215 at the time and even with make-up bore no resemblance to anyone oriental...............Me! Well, you know how it is when you go all out to get the best part and the drama teacher likes you and all.....................gawd, I was awful. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: fat B****rd Date: 11 Aug 01 - 06:46 AM I once read that one of the studio money men thought it a great idea to cast Charles Bronson as the Al Pacino character in "The Godfather" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:03 AM Barbra Streisand as an up and coming rock star in "A Star Is Born". Fiona Flanagan as the same in "Hearts of Fire". More or less of a dead heat, I'd say. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: bill\sables Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:05 AM Tony Blair as Prime Minister |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peg Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:44 AM Kevin Costner as Roin Hood; but since he was the executive producer, I guess I would call that more a case of "most self-indulgent and wrong-headed bit of casting" I thought Gary Oldman was very miscast in Dracula; though he was wonderful...a more, shall we say, attractive actor would have worked better... Juliette Binoche is getting a lot of roles lately that just don't show her abilities very well...is this the same as miscasting? or more a waste of talent? John Malkovich as Valmont in Dangerous Liaisons. Don't get me wrong, he is a marvellous actor, but the sight of him in those breeches with his bowlegged New York method actor walk was just plain hilarious...in a period piece an actor/actress MUST be able to move convincingly in the costumes...while we're at it, Mr. Malkovich's turn as a Russian con artist in "Rounders" was also a bit silly... I thought Daniel Day Lewis was an odd choice in The Unbearable Lightness of Being AND in the Crucible; but he is such a good actor he did make it work both times... peg
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,Nick Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:58 AM Kate Mulgrew as a Star Fleet Officer. She should have been left to re-runs of 70's era cop shows like Mcloud or her "finest" moment as Mrs Colombo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Mad4Mud Date: 11 Aug 01 - 11:37 AM In the Highlander movies: Christopher Lambert (Frenchman)as a Scot and Sean Connery (Scotsman) as a Spaniard. Yeah, that made sense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: ard mhacha Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:09 PM Alan Hale as Irish Chieftain Owen Roe O`Neill in, Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex [1939] , it still earns a laugh in Ireland when it is repeated on TV. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Justa Picker Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:46 PM Sharon Stone (and Russell Crowe) in "The Quick & The Dead." Timothy Dalton as James Bond. Juliana Moore in "Boogie Nights."
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Don Firth Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:53 PM Coulda been worse, Nick. They had originally planned to cast Genevieve Bujold as Captain Janeway, but Bujold decided at the last minute to beam out of there, so Kate Mulgrew got the role. But Genevieve Bujold!!??!?!?!?!!?? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peter T. Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:02 PM Mia Farrow as Daisy Buchanan in "The Great Gatsby". Killed the movie DOA. No one ever yearned for her eternally on the edge of a distant dock (Better than Steve McQueen and Ali McGraw, the original proposed duo, but...). Every Batman in the Batman movies, but Michael Keaton was the worst. On the other hand, Michelle Pfeiffer was extraordinary.
Coming up: Nicolas Cage and Penelope Cruz in "Captain Corelli's Mandolin". I hated the book, but even I can see complete disaster on its way. Cage, the elegant mandolin player (?), Penelope Cruz a Greek maiden? (the return of the 1950's: Spanish, Greek, Kiowa, who knows from Kiowa, we are talking ethnic here!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,frankie Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:08 PM This one's like shooting fish in a barrel but... Mel Gibson as Hamlet? Matt Damon as a card sharp in a pretty mediocre flick, "Rounders". And Tony Curtis as a Tartar(?) in "Taras Bulba" with his Brooklyn accent. I agree with your call on Malkovich in "DL" Peg, although I'm also a fan of his. frankie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: SINSULL Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:29 PM Natalie Wood as Maria in West Side Story???? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:33 PM Sean Connery as the Russian Submarine Commander in Red October. As a matter of fact, has Connery ever had a role that actually tested him as an actor? Kevin Costner as Robin Hood, definitely. The only good job Kevin has done was as the punk gunslinger in Silverado. In Bull Durham and Dances with Wolves he was the beneficiary of very good scripts. Jack Nicholson was miscast in As Good as it Gets, but because Jack is Jack, everybody loved him in it anyway. His acting all came early on : he was great in Chinatown and actually was the standout actor in Easy Rider. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 01:58 PM Well geez Leej, how hard was it to be a standout actor in "Easy Rider?" And Peter, I always thought that Michael Keaton was bu far the best at portaying the original :Dark Knight" attitude of the original Batman comics. Honest, how could he have been worse than George Clooney? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:07 PM Good point, Spaw. But the inbred shotgun-wielding mutant with the thing on his neck came in a close second. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:11 PM True Leej, but he was a local and he wasn't acting............ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peter T. Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:25 PM There was a good Sean Connery movie -- The Hill (is that right, someone will correct me, I am sure) -- early on. He was pretty good in The Man Who Would Be King. I don't know, Michael Keaton was just so weird and miscast. He wasn't dark at all, just like he had wandered onto the set and found an oversize rubber suit to play in. Thought of another one. Gary Cooper in "Love in the Afternoon". Way too old. You could tell they had to prop him up for most of the film. All those early Hepburn films, they give her all these aged male stars, it is creepy, like child molesting. Humphrey Bogart in Sabrina. Weird. Hey, moving back to familiar toothaches, George Peppard in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" -- damn, wrong thread again, most cardboard actor thread here I come. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,Scabby Doug on the cookie-eating computer Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:37 PM John Wayne played Genghis Khan in a movie called (I think) "The Conqueror"..
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Justa Picker Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:50 PM Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: SINSULL Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:54 PM Agreed, JP. He looked as if he was having an affair with his Nanny. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Mudlark Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:56 PM Agree about Nick Cage as Capt Corelli (loved the book, wouldn't see the movie if paid). I've seen basset hounds less lugubrious than Cage.
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Don Firth Date: 11 Aug 01 - 05:32 PM As a kid, I always liked Batman because he wasn't a Superhero. No super-powers. And he had a reason to do what he did. Seeing his parents murdered right in front of him made him a little nuts, so he ran around preying on the kind of punks that killed his folks. I hated the Sixties TV show. They were poking fun at one of my childhood heroes. So I approached the Tim Burton movie pretty cautiously. At first I thought that Michael Keaton was lousy casting. Then I saw the movie. For me, Keaton's portrayal was spot-on, taking what could easily have been a camped-up cardboard character and making him more or less believable. He played Bruce Wayne as a troubled young man e.g., the scene where Vicky Vail follows Bruce Wayne and sees him stop at a particular spot, look down sadly for a while, then leave a couple of flowers on the sidewalk -- he was still mourning his parents), and his alter-ego, Batman, as a sort of Avenging Angel. Lets not even talk about the sequels. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: RWilhelm Date: 11 Aug 01 - 05:38 PM The classic: Edward G. Robinson as Pontius Pilot. Speaking "Breakfast at Tiffany's" Mickey Rooney as a Japanese man ruined the whole movie for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Don Firth Date: 11 Aug 01 - 05:46 PM Well, maybe the first sequel. Michelle Pfeifer was fine as Catwoman, and Danny DeVito was an absolute snort as The Penguin. I heard that DeVito really got into the roll and spent most of his time off-camera trying to grab Michelle Pfeifer's tooshy. Quite understandable. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 05:51 PM Exactly how I saw it Don. I thought Keaton showed the "Dark Knight" quality, the troubled young man, very well. I can't buy off on any of the sequels though. DeVito was cute and all, but Kilmer had the body and the looks, but I didn't care for him as Batman and Clooney just didn't cut it at all. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peter T. Date: 11 Aug 01 - 06:00 PM Maybe it was because Michael Keaton has a mouth like a real bat. Where is the firm slash mouth, and the square jaw, comic lovers? yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: catspaw49 Date: 11 Aug 01 - 06:50 PM True Peter. Quite true............Bothered me at first when I saw th pictures of him prior to seeing the movie, but the brooding portrayal overcame a lot......for me. Then again, I know it takes a lot more for you and gawd knows you have a lot better taste than I do. Let's face it, you can't expect much from a guy who thinks "Blazing Saddles" is on par with the greatest movies of all time! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: khandu Date: 11 Aug 01 - 07:52 PM Richard Thomas as Hank Williams,jr. Geez, John Boy as Bocephas! Incredible! khandu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: bigchuck Date: 11 Aug 01 - 09:10 PM SPAW! You mean Blazing Saddles isn't the greatest movie of all time? Get a grip man. Of course it is. Leej, I thought Connery was fine in The Man Who Would be King, but of course he had Michael Caine to work off. I also rather liked him in Robin and Marion, which is my favorite romantic movie. Sandy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Aug 01 - 09:17 PM Tim Burton! Ah hah! I should have made the connection right away... That's why I didn't like the remake of "Planet Of The Apes" that's out now. I really can't stand the way Tim Burton does his "dark" movie scenes. I desperately need sunlight after viewing a Tim Burton movie. I detested the first "Batman" movie he made for the same basic reason. I do not find that much "film noir" to be dramatic at all...just a complete drag. Of course, I never wear sunglasses either. If Tim Burton had filmed "Dances With Wolves" the entire plot would have no doubt occured at night, or during a really nasty rainstorm, and everyone would have been either grim and dour, or maniacal and insane. Yuck. I shall henceforth avoid his movies. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:14 PM Peter and Bigchuck, you may be right about The Man Who Would Be King, but then again that movie is on my Top Ten Favorites of All Time list so I can't make an objective appraisal. In fact, Connery is an actor I like. It's a bit of a shame that the Hollywood Star Machinery seems to favor letting actors who have achieved SuperStar status stop acting and just be themselves. I would love to see Connery as Macbeth...and I'll bet he'd be great. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: DonMeixner Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:17 PM s a comic book collector for years I really get bent when Hollywood insists on reinvenbting the comic books when they do a film. I liked the first Batman best but Michael Keaton certainly doesn't look the part. The Phantom and The Rocketeer are the best comic / movie crossovers done yet. Nick Cage was online to be the next Superman!!!! Don |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peter T. Date: 11 Aug 01 - 11:25 PM Gee, I found both The Phantom and The Rocketeer to be really boring films: the Green Hornet (or was it the Shadow, the one with Alex Baldwin, I forget), was even duller. Whatever their limitations as films, I think one has to hand it to Christopher Reeve as the best cast of the comic book heroes of all, Superman (he was perfect, that sort of dopy, nice manners, etc., perfection). One shudders to think of the ever impending, Spiderman, Don. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,john c Date: 12 Aug 01 - 12:35 AM Tom Cruise in Rainman, Leonardo DiCaprio in The Beach Kevin Costner in everything And the very thought of a making a Hollywood-blockbuster out of Captain Correlli just makes me sad. J. PS. Sean Connery in The Man Who Would Be King - absolutely BRILLIANT!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Justa Picker Date: 12 Aug 01 - 12:43 AM Costner WAS good in Field of Dreams, and, 13 Days...but I agree with you on the rest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: tradsteve Date: 12 Aug 01 - 02:03 AM David Carradine as woody guthrie in "bound For Glory" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Peter Kasin Date: 12 Aug 01 - 04:28 AM Catspaw48 as Catspaw49. That flamer 48 from last year didn't have it. Nothing like our 49er! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: RangerSteve Date: 12 Aug 01 - 09:48 PM DonM - I agree, the Phantom and the Rocketeer were great movies. Early in the movie "Spartacus" our hero is identified as a Thracian. Thrace is part of Greece. Kirk Douglas is not Greek. (Trivia: Kirk Douglas isn't his real name, He's Russian. Don't know his real name, but it's long and hard to pronounce.) Charlton Heston as Moses or Ben Hur. Semitic people don't look like American Midwesterners. Mae West as a sex symbol. Leonardo DiCaprio as a man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: JedMarum Date: 12 Aug 01 - 10:02 PM I liked Keaton as Batman - but what the hell was Julia Roberts doing in the Michael Collins movie? Totally miscast, and unfortunately outclassed. Thankfully her role was small enough ... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: JedMarum Date: 12 Aug 01 - 10:06 PM ... come to think of it; Robin Williams was a pretty poor choice for his role in Good Will Hunting. I never thought I'd say that because Robin's been one of my favorites, but he just couldn't pull off the Bostonian role ... maybe they just should have changed the character's history instead of letting him butcher the language and the character! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: RWilhelm Date: 12 Aug 01 - 11:08 PM The New York Times recently had an article about how to tell a bad movie from a really bad movie. Among the criteria for a really bad move were Robin Williams with a beard, Robin Williams without a beard, or Robin Williams wearing a yarmulke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:19 AM Charlton Heston as Michelangelo, Tom Cruise in that Irish Thing, Woody Allen as The Incredible Hulk. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Grab Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:04 AM Loved Michael Douglas in Batman (no-one else has matched up yet) - and Timothy Dalton as James Bond (not as good as SC, but better than the rest). Hell, we could have an entire thread just on Batmen and Bonds... :-) Nah, I think you've all missed the worst. Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker, hands down, no questions asked. If ever someone needed a charisma bypass, it was that guy! Graham.
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,Celtic Soul Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:05 AM Woody Allen as the Incredible Hulk??? :D That's not a casting nightmare, that's the funniest film ever made!! ;D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Justa Picker Date: 13 Aug 01 - 11:46 AM RangerSteve, Kirk Douglas's real name is: Issur Danielovitch Demsky |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Aug 01 - 12:21 PM Kirk Douglas is also a Jew. Has anybody read "The Ragman's Son" (his autobiography)? It's a GREAT book with some very funny episodes, and I highly recommend it. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: GUEST,PAH Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM I couldn't disagree with the Robin Williams thing more. I loved his performance in Good Will Hunting. I think his performance in Good Morning Viet Nam is extremely underrated. I haven't liked every movie he's been in, but I can't think of one where I felt he turned in a poor performance.
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Subject: RE: BS: Worst MISCAST ever. From: Little Hawk Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:59 PM He was great in Popeye too. - LH |