Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: David C. Carter Date: 24 Jun 13 - 03:57 AM Mant thanks to Curt. I should have thanked you long before but! Sorry about that. David |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: MGM·Lion Date: 02 Jun 13 - 08:01 AM Joe Offer provided the Ponchielli Dance of the Hours link on 20 Jan 98. You are a mere 15 years late with your information thank you, Guest. ~M~ |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST Date: 02 Jun 13 - 04:55 AM It was originally a classical piece called "Dance of the Hours" by Amilcare Ponchielli. Allan Sherman was a master at musical parody -- taking a piece of music and writing different words for it. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,Curt Date: 05 Sep 09 - 09:55 AM I had some fun scanning the cover artwork from Terry-Thomas' album, if anyone is interested I have posted it on my web site: http://www.verifine.org/terry-thomas_america.jpg Quite a bit of retouching and restorative work in Photoshop, but looking like new! Curt |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,Curt Date: 04 Sep 09 - 09:08 AM It's MAY-tur (rhymes with "later"), not MAH-tur. As to the spelling, I ain't ever been to England yet - you may well be right. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Fad From: GUEST,Gerry Date: 03 Sep 09 - 07:38 PM Cool. But, it's Eton, not Eaton, right? |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: Joe Offer Date: 03 Sep 09 - 06:17 PM Curt, that is truly a significant and generous contribution to our Body of Knowledge here. Tell me - Is it MAY-tur and PAY-tur or Is MAH-tur and PAH-tur???? America wants to know. -Joe- |
Subject: Lyr Add: HELLO MATER, HELLO PATER (Allan Sherman) From: GUEST,Curt Date: 03 Sep 09 - 05:45 PM For David - I couldn't stand it anymore, bought the album on eBay for five bucks and shipping. Here, at last, are the full lyrics:
HELLO MATER, HELLO PATER I. As recorded by Terry-Thomas on "Terry-Thomas Discovers America" (1964) - YouTube.
Hello, Mater; Hello, Pater!
We play rugby, where you kick it,
Loved your letter; it was thrilling.
Tell me, dear old darling mummy,
BRIDGE: Don't feel blue.
Is it true 'bout Lady Plinker?
I'm enjoying all my studies
[The following lyrics inserted by Jim Dixon.]
Hello, Mater; Hello, Pater!
We play rugby, where you kick it,
Loved your letter; it was thrilling.
Tell me, dear old darling mummy,
BRIDGE: Don't feel blue.
Is it true 'bout Lady Clinker?
I'm enjoying all my studies |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: Bill H //\\ Date: 19 Aug 09 - 03:52 PM Not sure if this was mentioned above but Sherman put out a sequel on a 45 single that updated it with new lyrics---such as"..the little black things don't move in my food anymore...", "...weve got some great entertainment--thats this truth---this week Lenny Bruce", and many more. As to classical music. I always get a kick when popular things use classical--cartoons, recordings (Sherman), etc; How many realize that some of the scenes in Curb YOur Enthusiasm that call for some fast moving by the characters uses "Three Little Maids" from The Mikado. As to Allan Sherman---the most requested comedy music on my Sunday SImcha radio program on WFDU in Teaneck NJ---Tune it on Sundays at 10 AM ET (we stream on the web and the shows are archived for 2 weeks there) Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,MtheGM Date: 18 Aug 09 - 11:31 PM "Spike Jones' talented group of players" the City Slickers [including incidentally vocals by the great Mel Blanc, voice of Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck & such Warner Bros immortals] belonged firmly to the 1940s, well before Muddah/Faddah: his association with the song must be due to some folk·process-style misremembering on someone's part, surely? |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: Don Firth Date: 18 Aug 09 - 08:18 PM I first heard "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah" on an Allan Sherman record in the early 1960s (a friend of mine had it). Until I read it in this thread, I had never hear of it being attributed to Spike Jones. I would need extraordinary proof to convince me that it was actually written by Spike Jones because it is so much the kind of thing that Allan Sherman did. Another song about "Granada" that was mentioned above, and for which Megan provided an English language version is a sort of pop-classic song that was written by Agustin Lara, and just about every operatic tenor and his pet chicken have take a shot at it. Here's Spanish tenor Placido Domingo giving it his all: Granada, by Agustin Lara. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Date: 18 Aug 09 - 07:16 PM Alan Sherman, as I recall, was a comedy writer who used to play piano and sing these songs at Hollywood parties with no thought of making a career of it. Someone, probably a record producer who knew an opportunity when he saw it, convinced him to do a record. The rest, as they say......led to this thread. Spike Jones, on the other hand, was a talented musician who simply had a demented approach with an equally talented stable of players. You have to be really good to be that bad. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: David C. Carter Date: 18 Aug 09 - 05:55 AM Good one Curt.I recall the last line,which goes something like: ...And just think tomorrow,I,ll be thirty seven. Thanks again David |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,Curt Date: 17 Aug 09 - 09:58 PM David asked about the lyrics to 'Hello Mater, Hello Pater' by Terry-Thomas. I don't remember *all* the lyrics, which is frustrating, but here's what I recall: Hello Mater, Hello Pater I shall mail this letter later Here am I at good old Eaton Our athletic teams are almost never beaten We play rugby, where you kick it Then we take a crack at cricket If you buy a season ticket You could watch me kick it on a sticky wicket Loved your letter, it was thrilling Thank you for the extra shilling! Eaton's quaint and quite ironic They keep serving tea instead of gin and tonic -- Oh, I say, we had a lovely hunt to-day Except for Cecil Hem-ing-way He's such a clumsy ox, his socks Were eaten by the fox! Don't feel blue, oh Mater, Pater I miss you My life is complicated too I fired my valet today He left my vest unpressed -- Is it true 'bout Lady Plinker? I do hope so, she's a stinker! How is Cedric, oh incidentally, Does he really keep his Aston in his Bentley? ...and that's where the memory fails. Curt |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: David C. Carter Date: 14 Jun 09 - 05:28 AM Terry Thomas,British actor,recorded an album "Discovering America" sometime in the '60s.He did a song called "Hello Mater,Hello Pater,here I am at Alma Mater".I can't remember the rest of it and can't find it. If anyone knows or could find it,I would much appreciate it. Thanks in advance. David |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,Linda Date: 13 Jun 09 - 11:34 PM I need help with this song. When I was a kid my mom had a 45 record with this music on it. It started out 'Hello mudder, hello fadder, hello sister, hello brodder. It was about a man in a courtroom facing a judge for his crime. It was funny & I'd really like to get a copy of it since my brother broke the 45 of my mom's. Does anyone know what it's title was for sure & who performed this version? Thanks, Linda |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Fad From: Desert Dancer Date: 09 Jul 08 - 04:20 PM Camp Granada / Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah in the Digital Tradition database (Joe's link, way up in this thread, no longer works). ~ Becky in Tucson sending her boy to camp next week... |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: Bill H //\\ Date: 09 Jul 08 - 04:08 PM If you tune in to Sunday Simcha on WFDU at 10 AM on 7/20 (or on the web www.wfdu.fm) you will be able to hear the second version (the one mentioned above) Camp Granada Revisited---by request. BH |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: Bill H //\\ Date: 09 Jul 08 - 01:40 PM An interesting sidelight---the original song was pulled and replaced with a 45 --Camp Granada Revisited. EVen funnier than the first one Allan SHerman did. A rarity ---perhaps you might find it on e bay as I did. I have played it on my Sunday Simcha program many a time and much of his other material---all clever--even more-so than his signature song that people seem to remember him by. My favorite is Westchester Hadassah (to the melody of Winchester Cathedral) Bill Hahn |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST Date: 09 Jul 08 - 12:15 PM Has anyone found out the actual name of the movie to this song Hello Muddah, Hello Fadah? I want to see the movie so bad but I can't think of the name or where I would even go to find it? Everytime I type it in it just brings up the song. I want the show! Please Help!!! Thank you |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,vivienne oldham nee ferris Date: 28 Jun 07 - 02:45 AM hi everyone,, I am Greg Ferris' sister. Greg of Twilighters fame. My brother died of a brain tumor over thirty years ago so it is lovely to see this info on the screen. I have Gregs records still and love the music but no one listens to folk now. |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: voyager Date: 25 Nov 05 - 12:02 PM In one of life's little ironies.... My father passed away last summer and was interred at the Hillside Memorial Park (LA, CA) where Allan Sherman (and lots of well-known Jewish entertainers) are also laid to rest. Hillside Memorial Park - Allan Sherman My mother was also buried at the same site back in 2000. At the Memorial Service I found myself chanting - "Hello Mudda, Hella Fadda I'd RATHER BE in Camp Granada" voyager |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Fad From: GUEST Date: 25 Nov 05 - 01:01 AM Hello all. I am from the University of Illinois and I just found out that the song you are referring to, "Camp Granada" was written by a former student Allen Sherman who lived in a dorm called the Granada Club House. Click on the link below to the portion of the website. Thanks. And now you too can say you have been to Camp Granada if you stop by the University of Illinois. http://www.pti.uiuc.edu/facilities/atc.htm |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Fad From: GUEST,Steve Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:18 AM More on the origins of this song on the Wikipedia (yeah I wrote this article, or most of it.) Stuff you didn't know: Song was partly based on Sherman's son Robert's first camp experience: http://www.petabit.com/steve/LATimes_Granada.html Robert is now a TV Producer: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0792564/ Song has been translated not only into Swedish (where it's now a popular folk tune) but also Esperanto and Dutch. Song was the basis for: * A children's book * A travelling theatric revue |
Subject: RE: Origins: Camp Granada (Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah) From: GUEST,KatieR94@att.net Date: 03 Jun 05 - 02:03 PM so, how did you make up the song anyway? was it something someone said??? |
Subject: Spanish song lyrics to Granada From: GUEST Date: 05 Dec 04 - 11:03 AM |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: PoppaGator Date: 21 Nov 04 - 08:10 PM The southern-rockers Lennerd Skynard always claimed that they took their name from their high-school gym teacher Leonard Skinner, but it sure seems coincidental that Allen Sherman had used that exact same name years earlier in "Hello Muddah Hello Fathah." He's probably the true inspiration for their identity. Back to the original question -- those of us alive at the time Allen Sherman introduced this song on nationwide TV *all* recognized the tune. We may not have known *where* it came from, but I think pretty much everyone found it at least vaguely familiar, i.e., knew it came from *somewhere.* Thanks to Joe O, we all now know that it was a well-loved classical piece that was featured in "Fantasia." |
Subject: Lyr Add: HELLO MUDDAH, HELLO FADDAH (Allan Sherman From: Fergie Date: 21 Nov 04 - 07:34 PM Hello Mudduh, Hello Faddah (A Letter From Camp) Hello Mudduh, hello Fadduh, Here I am at Camp Granada: Camp is very entertaining And they say we'll have some fun if it stops raining. I went hiking with Joe Spivey: He developed poison ivy; You remember Leonard Skinner: He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner. All the counsellors hate the waiters, And the lake has alligators, And the head coach wants no sissies, So he reads to us from something called Ulysses. Now I don't want this should scare you, But my bunk mate has malaria. You remember Jeffrey Hardy: They're about to organize a searching party. Take me home, oh Mudduh, Fadduh, Take me home, I hate Granada, Don't leave me out in the forest where I might get eaten by a bear. Take me home, I promise I will not make noise Or mess the house with other boys, Oh please don't make me stay! I've been here one whole day! Dearest Fadduh, darling Mudduh, How's my precious little brother? Let me come home if you miss me, I would even let Aunt Bertha hug and kiss me. Wait a minute, it's stopped hailing: Guys are swimming, guys are sailing, Playing baseball; gee, that's better; Mudduh, Fadduh, kindly disregard this letter. Thought I should post the lyrics. Fergus |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: Megan L Date: 29 May 04 - 02:11 PM joe that got me thinking didnt Sinatra sing Granada Youve got me under your spell? Granada, I'm falling under your spell, And if you could speak, what a fascinating tale you would tell. Of an age the world has long forgotten, Of an age that weaves a silent magic in Granada today. The dawn in the sky greets the day with a sigh for Granada. For she can remember the splendor that once was Granada. It still can be found in the hills all around as I wander along, Entranced by the beauty before me, Entranced by a land full of flowers and song. When day is done and the sun touch the sea in Granada, I envy the blush of the snow-clad Tierra Novada, Soon it will welcome the stars While a thousand guitars play a soft Carbinera. Then moonlit Granada will live again, The glory of yesterday, romantic and gay. (musical interlude) And soon it will welcome the stars While a thousand guitars play a soft Carbinera. Then moonlit Granada will live again, The glory of yesterday, romantic, gay Granada. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: Mark Cohen Date: 29 May 04 - 02:00 PM Sorry, Perlette, but this is a good example of the Golden Rule for the 21st century: Just because you see it on the web does not mean it's true! Allan Sherman wrote "Hello Mudduh, Hello Fadduh". I dont know how all those sites got Spike Jones' name attached to the song. My guess is that there was a compilation of funny songs, some or most of which were by Spike Jones but which included songs by other writers, including the Sherman song. I checked a couple of sites I found through Google that included Spike Jones' name associated with the song, and they had quite a few errors, including changing Leonard Skinner's name to "Skynyrd"! Here's a page that advertises a CD collection of Spike Jones songs, which were in fact from the 40s and 50s. Note also that Spike didn't write a lot of the songs he made famous; it's his arrangements that were so over the top: "Cocktails for Two," for example. Here's a site with pictures of Allan Sherman album covers as well as links to lots of other Sherman stuff, including this page of Allan Sherman song lyrics and other articles. Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Perlette Date: 29 May 04 - 02:04 AM On your search engine---Spike Jones--Hello Mother / Hello Father --from the 1930's or 40's!! |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Perlette. Date: 29 May 04 - 02:02 AM spike jones----early 1930's or 1940's. Originally was called by the first sentence---Hello Mother/Hello father |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Perlette Date: 29 May 04 - 01:58 AM Spike Jones originally did it. However I can't remember if it was in the 30's or 40's. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SIR GREENBAUM'S MADRIGAL (Allan Sherman) From: Mark Cohen Date: 27 Apr 04 - 03:41 AM SIR GREENBAUM'S MADRIGAL Words, Allan Sherman; music, trad. "Greensleeves" As recorded by Allan Sherman on "My Son, the Folk Singer" (1962)
In Sherwood Forest there dwelt a knight |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: EBarnacle Date: 27 Apr 04 - 12:20 AM The sitcom did exist but it did not last long. It may have been a Summer fill in. Gargoyle, take a laxitive and a seat. Relax and try not to make the world live up to your exacting standards. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 26 Apr 04 - 10:44 PM PLEASEGive the WORLD-Geographic-Area....you and your husband...."believe" you saw/heard this television program.
Sincerely,
Damn!!!! MAX......JOE.....SUSAN....unless you laydown some simple posting guide-lines.....the value of this site as a viable academic-collection-medium is going to become little less than "NET-CHATTER"....of the uninformed.....you have an oportunity....sease it...don't slease. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,RedPondRanch Date: 26 Apr 04 - 08:57 PM OK, are my husband and I the only ones who remember that there was (we think) a television show on in the early 60s whose theme song was "Camp Grenada"? Or are we just getting really senile (hope not, we're just in our 40s). It seemed to be about a bunch of kids at a goofy camp (imagine that). If anyone out there remembers this show, tell us more! All we can remember is the theme song. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,beardedbruce Date: 25 Apr 04 - 12:00 PM Guest:sean The song is Eight foot two, solid blue... Should I try to bring Alan Sherman records to the Getaway, for research? |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: EBarnacle Date: 24 Apr 04 - 10:48 PM Almost all of the songs were created for Sherman's parties and refined with the help of the audience. Once they were ready, they were recorded for release. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,kerrie Date: 24 Apr 04 - 01:38 AM spike jones...hello mother hello father... find the lyrics at www.stlyrics.com/songs/s/spikejones9866/hellomotherhellofather324007.html. Now what commercal was it used in. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Clark Bahr Date: 07 Apr 04 - 11:20 AM There was a board game that Allen Sherman endorsed called "Camp Grenada". Milton-Bradley I think. It came out around the time "My Son the Folk Singer" came out. Anyway, you drew cards to go to different destinations on the board picking up rubber lizards, snakes, bugs, etc. along the way. You had to drive the camp bus to each destination. The bus was a little bigger than a Hotwheels bus would be and made of plastic. The front axle would move from side to side as you pushed it along. Attached to the axle was an eccentric cam that, if you got the front wheels too uncentered, would hit the hinged radiator knocking it down ending your turn. It was great fun. The rubber bugs and such weren't the cheap little tokens one gets in todays's games. They were substantial. Up to 5" and really squishy. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Me! Date: 30 Mar 04 - 07:23 PM The first time I heard Camp Grenada was when I was watching The Simpsons. Homer sees a messege on the answering machine.........Plays it and voila....Its Camp Grenada.......He says something funny.. i think he said "Marge,is Lisa at Camp Grenada?" |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,Eddievh666@aol.com Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:34 PM Al's Song CampGrenanda is one of the funniest songs I've ever heard |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,mcmilland@autonation.com Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:49 AM I remember as a small child seeing a skit on TV, Carol Burnett or Jackie Gleason, I'm not sure. I would like to see the skit "Camp Grenada" again so I could use it for a talent show. The music isn't hard to find but I don't know where to start to see a video. Does anyone remember what Variety show it was early 60's maybe? Thanks |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,sean Date: 27 Dec 03 - 03:10 PM Alan Sherman - My Son the Nut is the Album that Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah was on. On this album was also "Six Foot Two eyes of blue" "Hail to fat People" "Hungarian Ghoulash" and many more. |
Subject: Lyr Add: BREV FRÅN KOLONIEN (Cornelis Vreeswijk) From: GUEST,SM Kingma Date: 09 Nov 03 - 05:10 PM The melody was also used by the late Dutch-Swedish singer/songwriter Cornelis Vreeswijk. In his "Brev från kolonien" he tells the (highly similar) story of a boy sent to summer camp (probably directly inspired by Sherman's version). For those of you who read Swedish: Hejsan morsan, hejsan stabben! Här e brev från älsklingsgrabben. Vi har kul på kolonien, vi bor tjugoåtta gangstergrabbar i en stor barack med massa sängar. Kan ni skicka mera pengar? För det vore en god gärning, jag har spelat bort varenda dugg på tärning. Här e roligt vill jag lova fast än lite svårt att sova. Killen som har sängen över mej han vaknar inte han när han behöver, nej! Jag har tappat två framtänder för jag skulle gå på händer när vi lattjade charader så när morsan nu får se mej får hon spader. Uti skogen finns baciller men min kompis han har piller som han köpt utav en ful typ och om man äter dom blir man en jättekul typ. Föreståndarn han har farit, han blir aldrig vad han varit, för polisen kom och tog hand om honom förra veckan när vi lekte skogsbrand. Uti skogen finns det rådjur, i baracken finns det smådjur och min bäste kompis Tagehan har en liten fickkniv inuti sin mage. Honom ska dom operera. Ja, nu vet jag inget mera. Kram och kyss och hjärtligt tack sen men nu ska vi ut och bränna grannbaracken! |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: LadyJean Date: 27 Sep 03 - 12:00 AM Alan Sherman also did a parody of Greensleeves, called "Sir Greenbaum" about a Jewish knight. His ladylove was Miss Guenevere Schwartz. Sherman did a parody of Harry Bellafonte's "Matilda" called "My Zelda" Therafter, Bellefonte could not sing "Matilda" without someone in the audience shouting "Zelda". Which is why he sued Alan Sherman. I don't know hwat the verdict was. It should have been thrown out of court. |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,pdq Date: 26 Sep 03 - 07:49 PM Probably another dead horse at this point, but the song is called "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah" and is not on "My Son The Folksinger". I have that LP somewhere along with "Allan In Wonderland" and have never owned a copy of this this song. Allan Sherman: "My Son The Nut " album has "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah" Warner Brothers LP 1501 1963 |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 26 Sep 03 - 04:05 AM Deja vu ain't what it used to be. (or something) RtS |
Subject: RE: camp grenada origin? From: GUEST,baziel Date: 26 Sep 03 - 03:45 AM hi, Camp Grenanda is originally by the Italian composer Amilcare Ponchielli (1834-1886) for his opera "La Gioconda" and it is the ballet music "Danza delle ore" (Dance of the Hours) found within it. Disney i think also used it in fantasia somewhere. |
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