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Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)

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Subject: I need help!Elusive lyrics, perhaps Eastern Europe
From: GUEST,H.A.N.K.
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 12:02 AM

I am searching for the words to two songs my father sang to me as a child and which I now sing to my own children. My father learned the songs at Philmont Scout Ranch in the 1940s.

The lyrics I know are:

Walking alone, along the merry lane
Home from the dance, with my maiden gay
OOOOhhhh'
Studel a studel a studel a Oompah

The other one is:

Across the golden fields of grain,
A young boy's head is seen so plain
A hoya hoya ho ya ya
Swiftly flows the water
Zumna zoy ocha, Zumna zoy ocha

But it is not a boy at all,
It is god's castle
With spires so tall
A hoya....

I have searched many web sites, to no avail. I think the second song is Russian or eastern European, perhaps Hungarian or Rumanian. I would appreciate any help or suggestions for where to se

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 30-Jan-02.


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Subject: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my youth
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:00 AM

The first one is Polish, and is called "Stodola Pumpa". I don't remember the lyrics, but a Google search for that title should help. The "Pumpa" in the title is a pump; I don't recall what "Stodola" means--barn, maybe? The chorus is simply,

Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa
Stodola pumpa
Stodola pumpa
Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa
Stodola pumpa, pum, pum pum!

Hope that helps. I grew up in Philadelphia and went to the Philmont ranch a couple of times as a Cub Scout....never made it past that, though.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:02 AM

Oh, and I do remember the tune, so if you find the words and are stuck for the tune, let me know and I can probably find a way to get it to you.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:25 AM

Hmm....a quick Google search uncovered the following: (1) it's Czech, not Polish, (2) none of the web pages seemed to be an obvious source for the lyrics, though I didn't check them to see, (3) there are a large number of webpages in Portuguese that mention this song, for reasons I can't fathom, (4) it's very popular in elementary level choral and band collections -- which is probably why I remember learning it in 4th grade at Rhawnhurst Elementary School. Our principal was Miss Pyrczak, which is probably why I thought it was Polish.

Sorry...maybe you'll have better luck! And the offer of the tune is still good.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:32 AM

I vaguely remember the second one from elementary school -


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Subject: Lyr Add: STODOLA PUMPA
From: Amos
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 11:28 AM

Here's one set of lyrics. Doesn't include the images mentioned from memory, but the song may have widely varying verses being as wide-spread as it is..

A.

    Stodola Pumpa

1.
Far in the hills I hear the nightingale
Singing a song that brings home back to me.
Three years ago at home I left my love.
Still she is waiting, waiting there for me. Hey!

CHORUS
Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa.
Stodola, pumpa, stodola pumpa.
Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa,
Stodola pumpa, pum, pum, pum.

Three years to wait is much too long for us.
My love and I, we now could married be.
Yes, she and I, we now would have a son,
Strong and so handsome, handsome just like me!
Hey! (Chorus)

Son, when you're grown, you must not stay at
home.
Into the army you will come with me.
Here in the army you will learn to drill.
When you are good, then you can march with me!
Hey! (Chorus)
(After last verse repeat chorus very softly.)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 11:33 AM

Here is more of Stodla:

Walking at night, along the meadow way.
Home from the dance, beside my maiden gay.
Walking at night, along the meadow way.
Home from the dance, beside my maiden gay, HEY!

CHORUS:
Stodily, stodily, stodily pumpa.
Stodily pumpa, stodily pumpa.
Stodily, stodily, stodily pumpa.
Stodily pumpa, pump-ump-ump.

Nearing the woods, we heard the nightingale.
Sweetly she helped me tell my begging tale.
Nearing the woods, we heard the nightingale.
Sweetly she helped me tell my begging tale, HEY!

CHORUS

Many the stars, that brightly shone above.
But none so bright as her one word of love.
Many the stars, that brightly shone above.
But none so bright as her one word of love, HEY!

CHORUS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:51 PM

Thank all of you so much for helping with the words to the songs! I called my father last night and he went sort of blank on everything but the Philmont Scout camp part. This evening he called and remembered that the Walking alone, along the merry lane... song may be called "Meadowlands." He says he thinks he remembers playing it in the band in Jr. High school in Tyler, Texas! He also thinks the Czech song, which he had thought was Russian, was a popular number in WWII.

At any rate, I came and checked the Mudcat responses while I was on the phone with him and received all your wonderful responses! I was reading off the lyrics and he was saying "Yes, yes... I remember that!," and was pleased as punch with learning new verses. (Now he wants to learn all about how to post messages on boards such as this). He said this just made his day and I want you all to know how much I appreciate your time. Thanks! Heather


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:55 PM

Neat, Heather! Thanks for stopping by and letting us know that. Your dad is certainly welcome here anytime.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 04:22 PM

This for me is the essence of Mudcatting. Well done to all concerned. Jock


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 06:34 PM

YIPPEE! Mudcat scores again ... ain't thia fun! CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 10:15 PM

And for a GUEST no less! What's going on around here?
Come back soon, Heather.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:36 AM

I'm pretty sure when I learned Stodola Pumpa that the verse was four different lines, and I don't remember anything about a maiden gay (or straight--oof! sorry). But I could very well have learned verses written for American schoolchildren, and either Amos' or Sorcha's verses might be closer to the original Czech. The truth is out there....

I do remember that this song is characterized by an abrupt change in tempo from verse to chorus. The verse is a nice easy 2/4, about 90 on a metronome, and then the "Stodola pumpa" chorus jumps up to about a 180 polka, with a whole word on each beat!

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 01:43 PM

I remember it from a grade school music book (3rd or 4th grade) used during music class in Milwaukee, c. 1958, though I only remember the chorus, no verses. And I remember it being identified as Polish (at least in that book).

Most of the songs in the book(s) used in class had folk origins, but were mostly adaptations and simplifications with folk roots. Pity. Some of us ended up interested in folk music anyway.

Bat Goddess


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:31 PM

Sorcha- No, only those two verses to the "Across the fields" song, that I know. I sang them last year to a family we visited in the Czech Republic, and they joined in, in Czech... They knew the landmarks, too, the river and the castle. Thrilling!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 04:19 PM

Jean, that's wonderful! I taught "Across the fields" to my women's chorus the first year we were together and some of them thought it was really dumb to sing a song from elementary school! But a lot of the early music books have sources that are pretty close to the origins. I still have some of those old copies at my school- and I use them!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 04:26 PM

yup! that's the one I learned, Thanks Jean!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM

I have found some references to a Czech folk song called "Ifca's Castle." There was a 4-part choral arrangement by "Harley" published as sheet music by "Fischer."

(By the way, Google has gotten amazingly smart lately. If you search for "Ifka castle" it asks you, "Did you mean 'Ifca castle'?")

In 1959, the Calvin College Orchestra & Band recorded an LP on the Word label, which contained both "Stodola Pumpa" AND "Ifca's Castle"! I have no idea, though, if the album included singing or lyrics. And lots of luck finding it anyway!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:44 PM

I never sang Stodola Pumpa in school, but my sister did. According to her, the song is about a young man and woman at a fair or some such, and everytime they get close to a kiss or cuddle, the band strikes up a loud polka (the stodola pumpa part) and messes up their moves.

Sounds authentic to me!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:44 PM

We also sang this song in camp in the late fourties, here in Western Washington. Our version wasn't "pumpa", but "bumpa." CHEERS, Bob


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: GUEST,M Locke
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 09:46 PM

I remember learning th song about Ifca's Castle in grade school in Alden,NY in the late 50's also.

Above a plain of gold & green a young boy's hea is clearly seen.

Chorus

A hoo ya hoo ya hoo ya ya
swiftly flowing Labe
(repeat)

But no tis not his lifting head, tis Ifca's Castle's spires instead.

Chorus

For our pleasure it was made, this grey ol building deep in shade.

Chorus,

I was surprised to hear, from from a Fresh Air child from Queens, NY that we hosted in the early 80's that the song was still being taught in elementary school chorus then,

I don't know about today.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Dec 05 - 08:52 PM

I'm not sure if this is so old that no one cares but the first lyrics shown are very close to Ifca's Castle.
We used to sing it in choir in High School in the late '40s
As I recall it was something like this:
Across the plains of gold and green, a young boy plainly can be seen.
But no tis not a boy at all, it's Ifca's Castle, spires so tall ----
Sorry that is all I can remember.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: open mike
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 03:11 AM

I remember this from the Girl Scout song book..
now if i could only remember WHERE is " " " "


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Ron Hontz, a guest
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 01:07 PM

"But a lot of the early music books have sources that are pretty close to the origins. I still have some of those old copies at my school- and I use them!"

Being a visitor brought here by Google, I'm not sure who posted that bit but I sure would like them to tell me the title of the songbook that has Stodola Pumpa. It if it the same book I sang from at a one-room schoolhouse in first grade (1952-53), it should also contain a song titled "The Spanish Cavalier" and have a yellowish\brownish cover. Knowing the title, I can go scout it up on e-Bay.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 11:39 AM

Ah, that's the Golden Book of Favorite Songs. You should be able to find it in varying condition at eBay for very little money. Look for its big brother though, The BLUE Book of Favorite Songs, which incorporates all of the songs in Golden,all the songs in Grey, plus an "enlarged supplement".

Stodala Pumpa is on page 128 in Blue, it's the last page in Golden, or should be, I don't have my copy of Golden handy.

CZECH Folk Song
Arr. by Ruth Heller
Tr. by Frank Kubina
English version by R.H.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Ron Hontz, a guest
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 04:56 PM

Thanks for that info, Dale. You are correct in both ways--it is found on eBay and the price is very, very reasonable. I just sent an inquiry to one seller to make sure it is the book that I recall. If so, it should also contain a song called The Spanish Cavalier. I recently ran across a version of that latter title called The Young Caballero by the Beverley Sisters, a Brit trio who were popular in the 1950's. It had different lyrics and the tempo was quite different but is definitely was the same song. Ahh--how music tends to stay in one's mind for life!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Judy Cook
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 05:34 PM

I learned both songs from my mother. It's always a delight to me to find others who remember the same songs.

I remember Sorcha's verses with Mark Cohen's chorus. My understanding is the chorus is nonsense meaning "Barn - Pump" as he suggests.

I will be happy to sing "Stodola Pumpa" in public if anyone requests it on my upcoming UK tour.

Cheers,
Judy Cook


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 07:16 PM

Spanish Cavalier page 128, again, that is the number in the Blue book, probably about the same in the Golden book.

The song I remember singing most was A Capital Ship (The Walloping Window Blind) page 94


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 07:19 PM

Spanish Cavalier is page 123 ~~ they aren't on the same page!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 07:54 PM

I just checked eBay, like I said LOTS to choose from.

If you decide to go for the Blue book, then read carefully. The one for sale right now is the 1928 version which has fewer songs than the later ones. What you want to look for is the book entitled The New Blue Book Of Favorite Songs. There is one in the lot entitled VOCAL MUSIC LOT OF 40 Songbooks & SHEET MUSIC 1910-2001 priced at $4.99 and well worth the money.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Judy Cook
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 08:52 PM

My sister is reading from a small coverless songbook from her husband. He thinks it had a yellow cover originally:

"This is from the first summer camp in central Europe and is really a description of its 900 year old castle set in the midst of a green meadow full of forget-me-nots and cowslips thru which the girls used to march on their way to the River Elbe (Labe) to swim. Ifca means "YWCA" (from The Songbook of the YWCA copyright 1926)

Above a Plain (Czech marching tune arranged by Fjeril Hess & Lilian Jackson)

Above a plain of gold & green
A young boy's head is plainly seen
Hu-ya, hu-ya, hu-ya-ya
Swiftly flowing water
Hu-ya, hu-ya, hu-ya-ya
Swiftly flowing Labe

But not tis not his lifting head
Tis Ifca's castle spires instead

For our pleasure it was made
This grey old building deep in shade."


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Subject: ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Walking At Night
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 02:47 AM

Hmmmm. Interesting how songs get mentioned several times within a couple of weeks, and then not at all for years. I posted lyrics and tune in the Above a Plain / Swiftly Flowing Labe thread last week.
I didn't find out anything about the Icfa castle - Judy's raising of the possibility of a YWCA connection was intriguing. Sure enough, the very explanation Judy posted appears word-for-word in my copy of Sing Along the Way, a pocket songbook published by the YWCA and the Cooperative Recreation Service.
-Joe-
The same book has Stodola Pumpa. The lyrics are almost what Sorcha posted, but not quite - major difference is the chorus, as Judy said. Here they are:

Walking at Night (Stodola Pumpa - Czech Folk song)

Walking at night along the meadow way.
Home from the dance beside my maiden gay.
Walking at night along the meadow way.
Home from the dance beside my maiden gay, HEY!

CHORUS:
Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa.
Stodola pumpa, stodola pumpa.
Stodola, stodola, stodola pumpa.
Stodola pumpa, pum-pum-pum.

Nearing the wood we heard the nightingale.
Sweetly it helped me tell my begging tale.
Nearing the wood we heard the nightingale.
Sweetly it helped me tell my begging tale, HEY!

CHORUS

Many the stars that brightly shone above.
But none so bright as her one word of love.
Many the stars that brightly shone above.
But none so bright as her one word of love, HEY!

CHORUS

Sing Along the Way, a pocket songbook published by the YWCA and the Cooperative Recreation Service - translated and arranged by A.D. Zanzig, originally published in Singing America

Click to play

Does the tune sound right?
This page has it in Spanish, with MP3.


Brilha a fogueira ao pé do acampamento
para alegria não há melhor momento.
Velhos amigos não perdem a ocasião
de reunidos cantar uma canção – Ei!!!
Stodola stodola stodola Pumpa stodola pumpa stodola pumpa
Stodola stodola stodola Pumpa stodola pumpa pumpa pum!

No acampamento que faz o escoteiro
muito trabalha durante o dia inteiro,
mas, quando a noite já trouxe a escuridão,
acende o fogo e canta uma canção – Ei!!!
Stodola stodola stodola Pumpa stodola pumpa stodola pumpa
Stodola stodola stodola Pumpa stodola pumpa pumpa pum!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Ron Hontz, a guest
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 04:26 PM

Golly, Dale, I simply couldn't ask for a better pal than you. I HAD asked the seller of "Golden Book of Favorite Songs 1915 Song book" about both Stodola Pumpa and Spanish Cavalier being in it. She just replied "The Spanish Cavalier is there, but nothing called Stodola Pumpa." My first thought was maybe we had sung them from differnt books but then I had the good sense to check back with this thread and read your subsequent posts.

As you sguggested, I have now bid on "VOCAL MUSIC LOT OF 40 Songbooks & SHEET MUSIC 1910-2001" The auction, a 7-day lsiting, ends in just a little over 2 days and there hadn't been any bids prior to mine. Wish me luck.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: NH Dave
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 01:35 AM

Four Winds Camp's Songbook has this tune and others, and notes that it is credited to Augustus D. Zanzig.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 02:39 AM

Joe, I'm pretty sure that's Portuguese, not Spanish.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 03:08 AM

Oh, fer dumb. Yeah, Mark, it's from a Website in Brazil. My Spanish is pretty bad, but I was wondering why I didn't understand anything at all....
Very astoot, Dr. Mark.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: clueless don
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 12:19 PM

I remember singing a version of "Stodola Pumpa" as a boy. I must have learned it in school, because I can't think of where else I might have learned it (Cub Scouts, maybe, but I don't think so.)

All I remember of the first lines is

Walking at night, [something, something] summer air
[something, something, something ... something] maiden fair

Can't remember if it was "amidst the summer air" or "all in the summer air" or some other variation. I also don't remember if the second line began with a repeat of "walking at night ..." or something else.

If it is a Czech song, then there are probably a multitude of English translations floating around.

Don


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Judy Cook
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 12:57 AM

That's the tune I know for "Walking at Night". Except that we sang the last "Pump, Pump, Pump" not on the same note.

--Judy


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Celtaddict
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:13 AM

I learned "Stodola Pumpa" at Girl Scout Camp in Oklahoma around 1960ish. We sang the version Joe Offer posted, exactly, except that we sang "beside my sweetheart gay." I seem to recall being told it was a work song of some description, spinning I believe, in which the wildly different tempos of verse and chorus as described by Mark Cohen were related to two different moves involved in the task. Does anyone know anything about that aspect?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: GUEST,GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 07 - 06:32 PM

I had a substitute teacher in elementary school that taught us that. She was Greek and said that it was a Greek folk song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my yo
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 25 Jan 07 - 07:37 PM

If I had been thinking I would've given the address for the company who has been publishing these songbooks for years- it started as The Cooperative Recreation Service, with Lynn and Katherine Rohrbough and their daughters. Now it is, World Around Songs, Inc. and their latest address(I think, and hope) is, Rt.5, Box 398, Burnsville, NC 28714. So many hundreds of lovely songs, from all round the world. The Rohrboughs used to visit our home in Viper, Kentucky, and they collected and did the first publication of several of our family song variants. But I had never heard many songs from other countries, and we loved to sing and harmonize on incredibly beautiful ones, like

:Goodnight, goodnight, beloved mine,
Goodnight, sleep well my dear:
May Cherubim and Seraphym (sp?)
Watch over you and hover near-
Goodnight, goodnight, beloved mine,
Goodnight, sleep well, my dear.

That one used to give me goose bumps. I remember we sang it years later, at one of my sisters' funeral. Everyone cried.

I love our own songs dearly, but the rest of the world has endless treasures. My hope is that they will be sung forever, and not vanish like our Kentucky mounaintops- that's a sadness from which I cannot recover.      Jean


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Subject: RE: Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my youth
From: GUEST,John
Date: 28 Feb 07 - 09:21 PM

Hey Mark,
I was curious if you had any luck tracking down that 45 titled Chiapanecas (sorry this is off topic). Like you, I had a 45 when I was you that wasn't "Las Chiapanecas" that went:
Down in Mexico
Where the peppers grow
There's a tune called Chiapanecas
ay yay yay yay yay
ay yay yay yay yay
ay yay yay yay yay
Chiapanecas
Ay Chiapanecas Siaya

and so on.
Anyone that can help me please either post or write me personally
Thanks,
John
cygnetseven@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Req: Lyrics from a song dad sang in my youth
From: leeneia
Date: 01 Mar 07 - 02:18 PM

My sister sang Stodola pumpa in grade school in Milwaukee. As she told it, the young lovers are together in a park. Everytime he tries to make a move, a boisterous polka band begins to play and wrecks the moment.

She thought it was a riot. I'll see if she remembers the verses she sang.


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Subject: RE: Req:Lyrics from a song dad sang in my youth(Czech)
From: GUEST,lauren
Date: 09 Oct 07 - 12:14 AM

above the plane of gold and green a young boys head is plainly seen
ahooyahooyahooyahyah swiftly flowing river
ahooyahooyahooyahyah swiftly flowing river
its ifca's castle spire insteed
ahooyahooyahooyahyah swiftly flowing river
ahooyahooyahooyahyah swiftly flowing river

(repeat two verses fatser this time)



these are the lyrics i have


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 08:42 PM

Our choir sang this acappella in HS, lyrics, as I recall were:
    Across the plains of gold and green
    A young boy plainly can be seen
    But no tis not a boy at all
    Tis Ifca's castle, spires so tall
    a hoo ya hoo ya hoo ya ya


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 08 - 02:10 PM

For your second song you might try this link:
http://www.mamalisa.com/?t=es&p=810&c=116


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Guest, MJ
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 04:46 PM

I just found this site because I looked up Ifca's Castle. I learned the song in Kindergarten in 1958, we sang the chorus as a round:

Above the plain
of fruited grain
a young boy's head
is plainly seen

A hooya hooya hoo ya ya
swiftly flowing rivers
a hooya hooya hoo ya ya
swiftly flowing rivers

But note is not
his lifted head
tis Ifca's castle spires instead

A hooya hooya hoo ya ya
swiftly flowing rivers
a hooya hooya hoo ya ya
swiftly flowing rivers

Those were the only two verses we were taught


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Artful Codger
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 09:07 PM

The second song, "Across the golden field", appears to be derived from the Slovak (not Czech) song "Isla Marina". For the Slovak words and a literal translation, see my post in the "Above the Plain" thread Joe Offer linked to above.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 10:15 PM

The first a Czech song, it is Stodola Pumpa. I know it is Czech seeing as my last name is Stodola and I am half-Czech. In English it means Barn Pump.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 11:01 PM

Dear Madam / Sir,

I saw your request on the web. I'm looking for the song itself because I sang it with the schoolchoir in the sixties and have good memories about it. We used to call it the HUYA song because of its ending but the title is known as: Isla Marina. For the original songtext you could try next link: http://java.classical.com/liner/a8a1033dad74866f6ad2889663c6c8bd/FW06919.pdf
By scrolling down you'll find the lyrics on page 4.

Kind regards,

E. Nieuwenhuis
Kleine Berg 7
5741 LW Beek en Donk
The Netherlands
eriknieu@wish.nl


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Subject: ADD: Isla Marina Do Cintorina (Moravian)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 12:47 AM

Thanks for the information - here are the lyrics from that Czech Folkways album.

Drinking Song: Isla Marina Do Cintorina (Moravian)

Isla Marina do cintorina
Suhajcek za nou a holbickou vina

Huja, huja, hu—ja-ja
Tece voda kalna
Huja, huja, hu—ja-ja
Tece voda z hor

Pockaj, Marina, napi sa vina
Budes cervena jako malina
Nechem ja vina ani palenia
Mala bych potom srdca bolenia


Marina Went To The Cemetery
Mirina went to the cemetery.
A young man followed her with a mug of wine.
Huya, huya, hu-ya-ya
The muddy water flows.
Huya, huya, hu-ya-ya
The water flows from the mountains
Wait, Marina, drink a little wine.
You will be red as a raspberry.
I don't want wine or brandy
Because it would, make my heart ache.


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Subject: RE: Isla Marina
From: Artful Codger
Date: 12 Jan 10 - 05:17 PM

Well, if you had gone to this thread, as mentioned above, you'd find that I'd already posted both the lyrics and translation with the proper diacritical marks there. And though the forum search is disturbingly unreliable, if you had googled "isla marina" mudcat (or more narrowly, "isla marina" site:mudcat.org) you would also have found that message.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,curious person
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 03:00 AM

I need to figure out what "stodola pumpa" means because i'm stumped and need help, so if any of you guys can send any help thani would be much obliged thank you! i think that it means "march of the kings" but am not postive.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:54 PM

Stodola pumpa = barn pump
According to Google Translate.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Feb 10 - 11:05 PM

I found this when looking for something else. I sang a song 60 years ago in grade school.
    Walzing one night upon the village green.
    Soon will come the time to chose the village queen.
    Who but yourself should win the golden prize.
    Who but yourself has jewels in your eyes.
The chorus was
    Stodola pumpa, stodola pumpa etc


How would barn pump be the meaning?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:12 AM

Across the plain of golden grain
A young boy plainly can be seen.
A hooya hooya hooyaya swiftly tumbling water.
A hooya hooya hooyaya swiftly tumbling water.

But, lo, 'tis not a boy at all
'Tis Ithaca's castle spires so tall!
A hooya hooya hooyaya swiftly tumbling water.
A hooya hooya hooyaya swiftly tumbling water.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Zaba
Date: 22 May 10 - 11:16 AM

Hi all,
I'm Czech, but I wasn't able to find lyrics for Stodola pumpa and I don't know it :-(. The only traditional with the "pum pum pum" in chorus I've found is this:

Proto jsem si kanafasku koupila,
carija koupila, carija koupila,
abych se ti, mùj miláèku líbila,
carija líbila, carija líbila.

Ref.: Stará, stará pumpa, pumpa stará, stará pumpa,
stará, stará pumpa, pumpa stará, pum, pum, pum.

Koupila jsem na èervenou na bílou,
carija na bílou, carija na bílou,
aby si mi nechodíval za jinou,
carija za jinou, carija za jinou.

Refrén...

There is sheetmusic too, so someone can try if it is this song you are searching for. The meaning is like this:

I've bought the "kanafaska" (it's a certain type of traditional skirt),
carija bought, carija bought,
becouse I want to be pretty for you, my darling,
carija pretty for you, carija pretty for you.

I've bought red and I've bought white,
carija white, carija white,
for I don't want you to look for another girl,
carija another girl, carija another girl.


Išla Marina is very nice song my Grandma and my Daddy did sing. Joe Offer's translation is really good. I have found some other verses:

Èože ma, èože, do Tvojho vína, mala bych dcéru, alebo syna.
Huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda z hôr.
Ak bude chlapec, dám ho do školy, bude sa uèi쳌, zlaté litery.
Huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda z hôr.
Ak bude dievèa, bude Katrenèa, bude husárom, švárne frajerèa.
Huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, teèie voda z hôr.

It's hard to understand even for me :-). It's something like that:

I don't care your wine, I would have a daughter or a son.
Huja..
If it'll be a boy, I'll send him to school, he will learn gold letters.
Huja...
If it'll be a girl, she will be "Katrenèa" (I can't imagine, what it could mean, maybe a name Kateøina (Catherine), or anything else), she will be a pretty lass for hussars.

Hope it will help...


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Subject: Stara, stara pumpa / Isla Marina
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 May 10 - 04:27 PM

Lyrics reposted in Unicode for universal display:

First song:

Proto jsem si kanafasku koupila,
carija koupila, carija koupila,
abych se ti, můj miláčku líbila,
carija líbila, carija líbila.

Ref.: Stará, stará pumpa, pumpa stará, stará pumpa,
stará, stará pumpa, pumpa stará, pum, pum, pum.

Koupila jsem na červenou na bílou,
carija na bílou, carija na bílou,
aby si mi nechodíval za jinou,
carija za jinou, carija za jinou.

Refrén...


Additional lyrics for "Išla Marina":

Čože ma, čože, do Tvojho vína, mala bych dcéru, alebo syna.
Huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda z hôr.
Ak bude chlapec, dám ho do školy, bude sa učiť, zlaté litery.
Huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda z hôr.
Ak bude dievča, bude Katrenča, bude husárom, švárne frajerča.
Huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda kalná, huja, huja, hujajá, tečie voda z hôr.

For the latter song, see also the "Išla Marina" (Above a Plain/Swiftly Flowing Labe) thread: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=88686
I've copied the additional lyrics there.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Zaba
Date: 24 May 10 - 03:24 AM

For those who are interested - some Moravian songs and dances:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl6-yUHaKN4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IjRhlHH4WI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwGQb7prlEo&feature=related

Žaba


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,nmill65
Date: 30 May 10 - 06:31 PM

Hi, Everyone! I remember singing this song in grade school in western PA. I taught it to my grandchildren, and every now and then when we get together, someone will start to sing it. As I remember, the words are:

Walking along . . as nightfall ends the day,
Sweet scented breezes whisper on their way.
Up on the hill I hear a nightingale,
Singing its song out over hill and dale. HEY!
Chorus:
Stodla pumpa, stodla pumpa, stodla pumpa,
Stodla, stodla stodla pumpa, Stodla pumpa,
PUM PUM PUM.

Then the chorus is repeated faster, and then again as fast as possible.   

There were times I thought my daughter felt like PUM PUM PUM all of us! I glad to hear that the song is still being passed on.

Thanks, everyone!

NLM


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,L Hansen
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 04:57 AM

This is what I remember singing at school, in the 70's. In New Zealand.!!

Upon the plains of gold and green,
A young boys head,
is clearly seen,
A hoya hoya hoy ya ya
Swiftly flowing river,
A hoya hoya hoy ya ya
Swiftly flowing river

But no 'tis not,
a young boys head,
It is gods Castle spire instead,
A hoya ....


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,a person
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 04:51 PM

you can play the song " Stodola Pumpa " on the flute. Stodola means barn and Pumpa means pump. so mainly "barn pump" the song is Czech


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,EllenMp
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 07:14 AM

My dad used to sing this Isla Marina song -- we called it "Dad's Old Indian Song" (in those pre-multicultural days.) I guess we thought the hoo ya, hoo ya, hoo ya ya sounded Native American. We only knew the first verse, though, so it's great to hear the rest of it. I don't know where in rural southern Ohio in the 40's or 50's my dad would have heard it, but the English version we learned was:

Across the plains of gold and green
A young boy plainly can be seen
A hu ya hu ya hu ya ya
Swiftly tumbling water

The image was always very evocative to me -- in my mind I saw a young Native American boy standing in warm late afternoon light on the edge of an escarpment with a waterfall tumbling down onto a green and golden waving plain at his feet. Not true to the original song, I guess, but beautiful to me nevertheless.

Does anyone know if this song was ever recorded in English?

Ellen


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Artful Codger
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 02:45 PM

If you actually want people to find your information on "Išla Marina" when they're looking for that song, you should put it in the proper thread, not in this one.


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 07:21 PM

I have a printed copy of the Stodola Pumpa song, entitled "Walking at Night," as translated by A. D. Zanzig. It's in an old camp song book entitled Sing!, published by Cooperative Recreation Service, Delaware, O (Ohio?), under the logo of the American Camping Association, no date, probably 1940-1960 sometime. It has the melody and a harmony line, with guitar chords. The lyrics are as reported by Sorcha.


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 02:47 PM

Here finally a version in Czech. The uploader is the camera man and explains to us the meaning of the song. The original (or bowdlerized?) version has seven verses about food on week days - but what has that to do with the "barn pump", as the title translates?

Another version, but only of the chorus, is sung simultaneously by another "faction", which tells us what a farmer and his lawful wife ("Mrs. Mum") do in the barn, for added thrill compared to their lawful marital bed.

As we suspected in one of the other threads, the song seems to be considered bawdy and therefore not known to respectable Czechs. The uploader's uncle has to teach the song to the party. We may assume that there are bawdy verses as well, even more explicit.

Would one of our Czech readers please post the complete lyrics, preferably both versions, for strictly ethnographic purposes? I promise I won't tell anyone!


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Paul O.
Date: 23 Nov 11 - 10:06 PM

This thread started over 10 years ago. WOW! Here are the lyrics from what we sang in grade school (in the sixties):

Strolling along as nightfall ends the day
Sweet scented breezes whisper on their way
Under the stars we slowly stroll along
While distant hills re-echo with their (this?) song

Hey!

Stodala stodala stodala pumpa, etc.


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: Zaba
Date: 19 Apr 12 - 02:26 PM

I'm sorry, I haven't been here for ages so I'm a bit late with my attempt to help with the Czech lyrics.
The bad news is I'm not able to find the complete lyrics :-(. Bawdy or not, it seems they are not anywhere on the Net. The only thing I could do is to ask my friends if someone of them knows. I've just tried this and if I had any news for you, I'll let you know.


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Nov 12 - 08:59 AM

This is also a great round:


Across the plain of golden grain
A young boy plainly can be seen:
A hooya, hooya hooyaya,
Swiftly tumbling water,
A hooya, hooya, hooyaya
Swiftly tumbling water.

But lo! Tis not a boy at all!
Tis Ith'ca's castle spires so tall!
A hooya, hooya, hooyaya
etc.


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Abdul
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 09:34 PM

I sang this song when I was in Primary 3 or Primary 4 ; that is grade 3 or 4 back in 1957 or 58 in HongKong. The version that I sang was " Far in the hills, I hear nightingale. Singing a song that brings home back to me. Three years ago, at home I left my love. Still she is waiting, waiting there for me Hey. Stodola stodola stodola pumpa, stodola pumpa, stodola pumpa, stodola stodola stodola pumpa, stodola pumpa pum pum pum


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Pat Guyton
Date: 23 Aug 14 - 01:25 PM

I remember this song fondly from my years at Henderson Camps on Lopez Island, Washington (in the 50's). It was a camp favorite because the verses were slow and dragged out (that was the roMANtic, schmaltzy stuff, which we had no use for), then after a short pause, everyone shots "HEY!" and the very bizarre chorus begins at a fast and lively pace. None of us knew what the chorus words meant, of course, but that just meant we sung it louder and with more gusto. What it sounded like was this:

Sto-sto-stolla pumpa,
Stolla pumpa, stolla pumpa,
Sto-sto-stolla pumpa,
Stolla pumpa pum-pum-pum

I can't make your chorus lyrics fit the tune I remember (same as above). The stodola is too many syllables.

The verses I remember are just as you've written them above, Joe, with the song beginning:

Walking at night along the meadow way
Home from the dance beside my maiden gay
Walking at night along the meadow way
Home from the dance beside my maiden gay . . . Hey!

It was a GREAT tune for kids aged 7 to 12!!


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Subject: RE: Origins/ADD: Stodola Pumpa / Stodole Pumpa (Czech)
From: GUEST,Jack Caldwell, Ann Arbor, Mich.
Date: 01 Feb 16 - 11:48 AM

We elementary school children in Augusta, Michigan, sang Stodole Pumpa during the music ed part of the day. That was during WWII, but I still remember the melody and some of the words at age 80. Later, one of my kids would ask me to sing it because he liked the Hey! and change to the fast tempo and louder delivery. I only knew the "Far in the hills" form but even now I like it best. I am thankful to the people on this web site who helped restore my memory of this song!


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