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Subject: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:22 PM

I have noticed that William Shatner has scored big on both the "Worst Actor" thread and the "Worst Song" thread! This puts him in a pretty special category, and I think he deserves a thread of his own in recognition of that fact.

I am proud of the fact that I attended Trent University, in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada...and so did William Shatner, though at an earlier date.

His cover of "Mr. Tambourine Man" stands out as the most unique and distinctive Dylan cover ever performed by anyone. As far as I know, Bob has never commented on it, however.

All I can say is, "Yay Bill!"


Previous Shatner Threads (click) (please do not refresh them)

Anyone with William Shatner trivia is urged to post it here...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:31 PM

Say...

I just noticed that Bill did not make the "Worst Miscast" thread! If he had, he could have scored a hat trick. Sigh. Oh well..

Can't have it all, I guess.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:33 PM

Worst miscast: William Shatner in "The Brothers Karamazov". A Russian Capt. Kirk - strutting, emoting, and in general overacting.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:35 PM

Wa-a-a-ait a minute! He played in a movie version of "Hamlet", I think it was, when he was quite young. I saw a bit of it on a show where he was being interviewed, and Shatner himself pointed it out as atrociously bad acting, and was laughing about it. Anybody know the details on that?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:45 PM

I have yet to see him (Shatner) in anything or do anything which I liked. Nimoy on the other hand potrayed both an excellent Arthur in "Camelot" and an incredible Tevya in "Fiddler on the Roof"


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From: GUEST,Celtic Soul
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:22 PM

OK, this might be a stretch, but: Worst MISCAST - William Shatner as a Director.

Oh my Lord, but the only thing worse than his acting is his acting when he directs himself :D


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:39 PM

I remember back in either 69 or 70 paying to see Shatner on a "tour" he was doing - was suppossed to be him and several others about 2 hours with out-takes- turned out to be Shatner - for about 1/2 an hour - 15 minutes of which was him "shooting" audience members with a toy phaser. Can you say "rip off?"


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:55 PM

I've never been a Shatner fan. But there is one thing he actually does quite well. He's really, really good at making fun of himself. I think that may be how he makes his living now.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

Hey, come on, Mario! There were alien races who were willing to travel light years away from home to get zapped by Captain Kirk. Very few of them had the benefit of being zapped for a full 15 minutes, either. Usually a mere couple of seconds was all they got.

Then too, if we can believe the show, there were gorgeous alien females who traveled light years to get...ummm...bopped by him.

What are you complaining about, anyway? :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

I'd give him a bad miscast for the part he played in Teckwar. He acted more like a used car salesman than a police chief (or whatever the heck he was supposed to be)And he created that show!

Heck! for Teckwar, I'll give him worst producer and worst writer as well.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:06 PM

AWright, Jack!!! Bill Shatner now takes WORST in 5 (count 'em), 5 BIG CATEGORIES!!!!!!!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:48 PM

And nobody has mentioned the hairpiece yet. Actually, though, you have to give him high marks for training the hamster to lie still.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:13 PM

Actually you'd have to give it to him worst hairpiece at least twice. That curly wig on T.J Hooker was scary.

I'd also like to nomininate him for worst costume on a TV show for Star Trek. That form fitting shirt was not flattering to his pot belly AND that shirt used to rip any time he even thought about gitting in a fight. further exposing the flabby body.

And how about that padded styrofoam doorman's uniform he wore in The first Star Trek movie. Pheeeew!!

Mr. Shatner has made a career by being amusingly bad. The last decent thing he did was those "Twilight Zone" episodes.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:17 PM

Do people actually find him amusingly bad? I find the bare adjective is more my opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:29 PM

What a legacy!


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:30 PM

Back in his pre-fame days, Jim Carey used to do utterly hilarious impressions of the entire Star Trek cast, but particulary of Captain Kirk. He was way funnier before Hollywood got hold of him (Carey, I mean...).

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:31 PM

He's always amused me.

The only thing funnier than his immitation of an actor is his impersonation of a singer!

I hear he is good at raising horses though.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 05:39 PM

Bill is a great guy, a fine actor and a rich man. He and I rode the open boxcars in the summertime. Bill'd play his guitar, I'd sit back and watch the stars and sip my wine...

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Rev
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:07 PM

Shatner earns another footnote in film history for starring in the only movie ever made with dialogue entirely in Esperanto! The movie's called "Incubus" and it's recently been rereleased on video. It's a weird supernatural thriller, really pretty dull, except for the surreality of seeing Shatner overact in the peculiar artificial language of Esperanto. I would venture to say it's his best role! (There are subtitles, not that it really matters...)

Rev


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:49 PM

I love the guy! And I agree with Carol C. He is best at spoofing himself. Love the Price Line ads!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:49 PM

I love the guy! And I agree with Carol C. He is best at spoofing himself. Love the Price Line ads!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Firecat
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:56 PM

Silly question here. Who's William Shatner???


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: ddw
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:25 PM

It's not that he's so good a spoofing himself, khandu — it's just that he never runs out of material....

*BG*

david


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:55 PM

He was good in "Nightmare at 20,00 Feet", one of the better episodes of Twilight Zone. But the show called for someone who had to overact.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:20 AM

He breeds beautiful American Saddlebreds.

Well geez, even a Shatner has to do something well. Then again, for all I know, he may even be trying to breed with the mares................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 07:16 AM

Fire....cat...you...don't.....know....who....WilliamShatner..............is? Captain....James...T...Kirk...ofthe....Starship....Enterprise. It's.... five....year....


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:17 AM

That's James Tiberius Kirk. "To boldly go where no man has gone before!"

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,Adolfo
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:58 AM

It's true that Shatner overacts and that he hardly has more than three or four gestures and poses (by far many more than Richard Gere, if you come to think of it). But it's also true that no one plays the Enterprise Captain like him. I always tend to see Patrick Stewart holding a battleaxe and embracing his daughter young Guinevere in Boorman's "Excalibur" rather than boldly going where no one (except Jim) has gone before.


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From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:29 PM

They really are fine horses.....................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: bob jr
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:52 PM

i try to find the origin of a folk song and get almost no response..some idiotic thread about william shatner gets tons of responses,one even more moronic about bad actor/bad actresses gets 100s of responses...i need to find a site that deals with folk music cause this site aint it anymore


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Fiolar
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:53 PM

Doesn't he play "The Big Giant Head" in something or other? and didn't he get melted in "The Devil's Rain." Seriously though can any movie fan confirm that he played "Alexander the Great" in a TV movie and the probable date?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 01:15 PM

I saw him on a rerun of "Third Rock from the Sun" last night. He is so bad he is amusing AND he is brilliant at making fun of himself.

Art. He plays guitar? Are there amazing ...pauses... between.. strumsandchordchanges?

Bob... I've found this site to be excellent for folk music and idiotic discussions. I consider these threads to be....Spontaneous...generation... of ... folkloreandhumour


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 01:16 PM

I can't confirm that.

It seems I have inadvertently offended a major Bob Dylan fan, namely bob jr. This is certainly ironical, since I am the most faithful Bob Dylan fan in this entire region (Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada).

I feel that a little idiocy is a welcome relief now and then...it relaxes a tense mind.

Besides, I've always kind of liked William Shatner, in a weird sort of way.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 09:45 PM

James "Talmadge" Kirk...until he became a movie star...then he became Tiberious.

Much like Bernard P. Fife...Bernard Milton Fife...Bernard Oliver Fife!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 10:51 PM

Interesting...and who is Bernard Fife?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:22 PM

I mean, like they're really damn nice horses.................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 05:33 AM

Say there Bob jr, need any advice on your Bodhran technique ? got a problem with your drum ? want a custom made tipper ? need some help finding recordings of various styles ? I can help you there. Otherwise, don't go away mad... just go away.

Damn....those...aresome...fine...animals.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: SharonA
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 09:17 AM

Aw, c'mon now! The pompous, oversexed Captain James T. Kirk was a lot more fun to watch on still-restrictive sixtes TV than the goody-two-shoes Captain Christopher Pike would have been (I refer to the [first] Star Trek pilot show, also featuring the bushy-eyebrowed, order-barking Spock – eek!).


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:01 AM

Wouldn't that be BARNard Fife?

If Bob jr wants to talk about Newfoundland Folksongs, Woodie Guthrie or guitars, I'm here.

Gotta....love ...those..horses!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:19 AM

bob jr.

when and in what thread did you ask about the origin of a folk song? Chances are that you didn't get replies because people didn't know about your request - since a perusal of your postings shows only one thread created in the last year - which means you posted your question (if it was within the last year) in a thread about another subject.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:44 PM

Special Announcement!!!

The ribbon-cutting ceremony has just been completed on the:

* * * William Shatner School of Bad Acting * * *

Almost everyone was there to witness this prestigious occasion! Well, quite a few people were there... Well, more than you might have expected...

Anyway, the WSSBA has now been launched, and will endeavour to perpetuate the extarordinary acting techniques of William Shatner, immortalized as James T. Kirk, Captain of the starship Enterprise (several of them, in fact).

The WSSBA is located on the grounds of a former mental asylum in beautiful Orillia, Ontario, Canada, and is fully equipped with McGill portable toilets.

I feel that in time this facility may eventually rival even the NYCFTTS in its scope and popularity.

We hope to have William Shatner himself here for a special dedication ceremony in September, when we erect a life-size statue of him in his starship uniform.

When asked to attend the ribbon-cutting, he politely declined, protesting a busy schedule. His parting words were "Piss off!", just before he hung up on us. He must have really been quite busy...

Mudcatters are invited to tour the magnificent facilities and brush up on their thespian skills at the earliest possible opportunity. Register for classes NOW!!!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:46 PM

Note: Despite rumours to the contrary, the former mental asylum is NOT my own home! Piss off, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:48 PM

Could I get a job teaching?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:57 PM

Definitely! "To Boldly Screw Up As No One Has Screwed Up Before" is our modus operandi.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 01:05 PM

When is that defication ceremony?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 02:40 PM

Jack - I'm puzzled. "defication"?

Do you mean "deification" (the making of William Shatner into a god...an intriguing notion!)

Or..."defecation"?

Or..."dedication"?

Please clear this up.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM

"defecation" would be appropriate, no?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:28 PM

Just a very small joke! The syllabus must be pure crap!

Overating 101: Intro to Emoting Overating 201: The Dramatic Pause Overating 202: Advanced Dramatic Pauses

Physical Education 102: Judo holds which tear Shirts

Hygene 301: Diseases you can Catch from Green Strippers


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:43 PM

Right on, Jack! Gotta love those dramatic pauses! Here are a couple more courses...

Overacting 204: The Raised Eyebrow (including a section on the "Bones" technique, guaranteed to make your eyebrow bounce off a ten foot ceiling)

Overacting 205: Further Facial Tics by DeForest Kelly

Overacting 401: Pulling in Your Gut (not easy in those T-shirts!)

Overacting 402: Compulsive Hand Gestures (all 3 of 'em)

Overacting 403: Athletic Space-Age Fisticuffs for the masses (torn shirt compulsory)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 07:55 PM

I don't suppose old BillyBob would agree to teach a course, seeing as how he could buy and sell the rest of us.

Are there any rumours of a duet with Neil ? Now there !!! Wouldn't that be a chart topper ?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 08:37 PM

Not to break up this adulation fest, but Shatner did a creditable job, not just in the Twilight Zone episode, but also in a TV version of the Andersonsville Trial many years ago, a long serious part.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 09:18 PM

PT, was that the one with Richard Basehart? Overall, that one was a pretty fine production and of decent historical accuracy.

The horses are still nice though, huh?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 09:43 PM

OK Spaw...we love has damned horses! There! :D

\khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 10:08 PM

Oh good khandu..........I couldn't remember if I mentioned them or not.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:04 PM

REFRESH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:05 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 11:31 AM

Certainly is decent of you to keep refreshing the Captain, Art...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 12:15 PM

Richard Basehart, yes CP, you are right. As usual -- terrifying to think how much joint crap we share.....

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 02:17 PM

VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA!!!!!

As I recall Mr. Basehart was also and overacting sci fi ship's commander. I'll give him credit though for actually looking afraid of green garbage bags full of water and men in fish suits.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 04:02 PM

I saw that movie when it was released in Skaneateles, New York, in a theatre full of kids making so much noise that you could barely follow the film...which was hardly worth following anyway. The theatre owner actually turned the film off halfway through and said the audience had to either settle down or get out. They half settled down. It was a pretty lousy movie, I'd have to say.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 04:06 PM

What the hell are you talking about Hawk? If it's "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"....the TV series starred Basehart, but the movie starred Walter Pidgeon with a memorable portrayal of his scientist sidekick by Peter Lorre.

I think Shatner should cover "Major Tom, Psychotic Astronaut" 'cause it's righ up his alley.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 04:48 PM

There was a "B" movie AND a series. Both equally crappy. But I loved 'em when I was nine!


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 06:41 PM

Spaw - I don't think I ever saw the TV show. I saw the movie. Ask me who acted in either, and I haven't got a clue. Besides which, I wouldn't recognize Richard Basehart if I bumped into him at the mall. I'll take your word about it, either way.

Peter Lorre ALWAYS makes a great sidekick!

I think your suggestion that William Shatner record "Space Oddity" is an inspired one! Would you like a position on the board of the WSSBA? Great ideas like this are what we need to get things really rolling around here.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 07:29 PM

There should be another Star Trek movie with Capt. Kirk and a new sidekick,Mr. Spawk,doing battle with a herd of wild horses trying to take over Ahia.

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 07:37 PM

nice horses, too.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 08:02 PM

Which was that folk song you were trying to find the origin of bobjr? I had a scout round and I couldn't find the relevant thread or post.

The thing is, most song requests get answered pretty quickly, and unless it throws up some point of controversy or discussion, the threads just die away. Whereas these get longer because once they get longish people drop in to see what is going on, and see something the want to comment on - like me now and they get longer still. And I can't see any harm in that.

As for Captain Kirk - it's a pity maybe they never had any equine aliens, with all those fine horses ready to join the cast. Mind, they'd probably act the pants of him. And whatever people say, a singing horse would have made a better job of singing Bob Dylan. (Better than Captain Kirk I mean...)

But he wasn't there to act or sing anyway. He was there to make sure that everyone kept their feet on the ground out in space. The world wasn't yet ready for a starship captain who could act. That came later.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Aug 01 - 08:23 PM

Yep. It came with Patrick Stewart. If you look at other space shows from the 60's, Star Trek holds up pretty well, actually. Between the fist fights and flirtation scenes they did manage to come up with a few interesting plots here and there. My personal favorite is "The Trouble With Tribbles", which was done mainly for laughs. I like the scene where the Klingon officer informs Mr. Scott that he did not say the Enterprise was "a garbage scow", but rather that it should be "hauled away AS garbage!" The results were entirely predictable...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 17 Aug 01 - 01:04 AM

Little Hawk,

As you probably already know, the reason there were a "few interesting plots" on the first Star Trek series is that several of the major science fiction/fantasy writers had a go at scripting an episode or two. If you still can get it in reruns, check the credits sometime--some very famous names are included there.

My favorite T-shirt says, in shaky green letters, "He's DEAD, Jim. You take his tri-corder, I'll get his wallet."

You'd be amazed how many young people I have to try to explain that to!

Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Aug 01 - 11:50 AM

"You'd be amazed how many young people I have to try to explain that to!"

What's more amazing is that there are so many to whom you wouldn't need to explain it.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 17 Aug 01 - 01:15 PM

When I was taking a law course years ago, we had a couple of days in court to watch the proceedings. A local town drunk was up on charges and when it came time for his sayso, he took out his wallet, flipped it open and said, "Beam me up Scotty."


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Aug 01 - 01:41 PM

LOL! I've had that same wish myself on numerous occasions. Oh, for a handy starship with which to make a quick exit!

By the way, the movie "Galaxy Quest" was a great spoof of the original Star Trek series and the cast.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: harpmolly
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 03:56 AM

LH, I adored Galaxy Quest. :)

My best friend sucked me into Trekkie-dom in high school. You haven't lived until you've seen the outtake reels from TOS and TNG. I've said it before and I'll say it again: William Shatner be damned, Brent Spiner was the sexiest damn man on that show.

Of course, I do tend to go for the metalheads *grin* Not.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 04:21 AM

Eyebrow or no, I always had a sneaky yen for Bones McCoy, especially when he was using his southern accent. :>)

Mollificent, Data over Number One? I like it!

Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Fiolar
Date: 18 Aug 01 - 05:23 AM

My favourite Star Trek episode was "Who Mourns for Adonis" and I think that Shatner was quite good in the 1970 TV movie "Sole Survivor" which was a ghost story dealing the spirits of the crew of a crashed plane waiting for the one survivor to join them.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Aug 01 - 05:35 AM

LH, at this school you speak of, do the McGills serve as portable classsrooms when not occupied?


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Aug 01 - 02:23 PM

Banjer - That is an interesting notion...it would certainly help conserve funds! I will make sure that your suggestion is tabled at the next meeting of the governing board of the WSSBA.

Thanks for the great input!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,Pelrad
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 01:19 AM

Ah, great geeks think alike. I had a huge crush on De Kelly when young, and I adore Brent Spiner!

Shatner was good in Miss Congeniality. He's usually good when playing smarmy; he gives it a light touch of self-deprecating humor.

I'd have to agree that he is absolutely the WORST at directing himself in movies. I can't venture an opinion on his writing, as I have been too afraid to open even one of his books.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Marion
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 03:01 AM

Here's some Shatner trivia:

William Shatner went to McGill University in Montreal, as did I. One year when I was there, there was a referendum held, and the student body voted strongly in favour of changing the name of our student centre building to the William Shatner Building.

I never understood the legalities of it all, but the university administration pulled rank and wouldn't let the students' council change the name of their building. Nonetheless, we all referred to it as "the Shatner building" from then on.

No, I'm not telling you how I voted.

Marion


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 10:46 AM

The sexiest Female character on Star Trek?

I vote for yeoman Rand (The blonde with the clipboard )

Oh those short skirted uniforms.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,LynnT
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 11:10 AM

A couple bits opf Shatner trivia.

In his lean days (so to speak) post-Star Trek and pre-Hooker, Bill did commercials to make ends meet. He worked for a Canadian grocery chain called Loblaw's (owned, of course, by Robert Loblaw, or "Bob Loblaw" to his friends). The slogan was "It's mainly because of the Meat" -- can't you just see him emoting that?

He did use his own horse in the Star Trek movie he did with McDowell and Patrick Stuart, while Stuart rode a livery-stable hack. Anyone who knows horses could see he had a clue in the saddle -- and yes, Spaw, it was a beauty.

Do any of you know the Japanese cooking competition show called "Iron Chef"? It's an inadvertently-campy show, set in "Kitchen Stadium", where outside chefs challenge one of a team of house chefs to a one-hour cookoff, Samurai style, to produce 5 courses with the week's mystery ingredient. It's a hoot. Apparently they're gonna do an Americal version set in Las Vegas -- and Shatner will be the emcee.

Lynn


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 12:00 PM

Great! That's definitely the show to watch, in order to pick up a few more pointers on the Shatner technique. Thanks for the tip! Somebody alert Spaw!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,Pelrad
Date: 20 Aug 01 - 12:16 PM

What, he didn't trust Stewart with one of his precious horses?

Yes, it was very obvious Shatner was at home in the saddle. I remember mentioning it to my hubby at the time, that he must ride extensively.

"He's dead, Jim."

"Beam him to Loblaw's, Bones. It's mainly...because of...the meat."


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: sian, west wales
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 06:38 AM

More Shatner trivia ... which I'm amazed hasn't come up before now.

Any Canadians who are, say, 40+ (?) may have studied Shakespeare in high school using the Swan publications illustrated with photos from 'our' Stratford's productions. The 'Julius Caesar' one has a photo of a production in the 50s with Lorne Green (yes - Pa) as Caesar (or Brutus? Caesar, I think) sitting at a campfire, with William Shatner as 'the Page' ...

So if he was good enough for Stratford ...

Nice horsies too.

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Aug 01 - 09:54 AM

Lets see if we're on the same page.

Iron Chef Mystery ingredients

Week 1 cheval

Week 2 pony

Week 3 quarter horses

Week 4 Clydesdale

Nice horses though


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:10 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Jun 02 - 01:15 AM

Yes, I concede Little Hawk, within the Mudcat BBS...Shatner does "score big"...so do you

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 02 - 01:37 AM

YES


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jul 02 - 08:55 PM

Little Hawk - write him, please. After he has read over the site perhaps he will put in a personal appearance.


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Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Jul 02 - 11:44 PM

When will our messiah appear?


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