BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!

Subject: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:22 PM

I have noticed that William Shatner has scored big on both the "Worst Actor" thread and the "Worst Song" thread! This puts him in a pretty special category, and I think he deserves a thread of his own in recognition of that fact.

I am proud of the fact that I attended Trent University, in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada...and so did William Shatner, though at an earlier date.

His cover of "Mr. Tambourine Man" stands out as the most unique and distinctive Dylan cover ever performed by anyone. As far as I know, Bob has never commented on it, however.

All I can say is, "Yay Bill!"

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Anyone with William Shatner trivia is urged to post it here...

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:31 PM

Say...

I just noticed that Bill did not make the "Worst Miscast" thread! If he had, he could have scored a hat trick. Sigh. Oh well..

Can't have it all, I guess.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:33 PM

Worst miscast: William Shatner in "The Brothers Karamazov". A Russian Capt. Kirk - strutting, emoting, and in general overacting.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:35 PM

Wa-a-a-ait a minute! He played in a movie version of "Hamlet", I think it was, when he was quite young. I saw a bit of it on a show where he was being interviewed, and Shatner himself pointed it out as atrociously bad acting, and was laughing about it. Anybody know the details on that?

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:45 PM

I have yet to see him (Shatner) in anything or do anything which I liked. Nimoy on the other hand potrayed both an excellent Arthur in "Camelot" and an incredible Tevya in "Fiddler on the Roof"

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,Celtic Soul
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:22 PM

OK, this might be a stretch, but: Worst MISCAST - William Shatner as a Director.

Oh my Lord, but the only thing worse than his acting is his acting when he directs himself :D

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:39 PM

I remember back in either 69 or 70 paying to see Shatner on a "tour" he was doing - was suppossed to be him and several others about 2 hours with out-takes- turned out to be Shatner - for about 1/2 an hour - 15 minutes of which was him "shooting" audience members with a toy phaser. Can you say "rip off?"

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: CarolC
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:55 PM

I've never been a Shatner fan. But there is one thing he actually does quite well. He's really, really good at making fun of himself. I think that may be how he makes his living now.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

Hey, come on, Mario! There were alien races who were willing to travel light years away from home to get zapped by Captain Kirk. Very few of them had the benefit of being zapped for a full 15 minutes, either. Usually a mere couple of seconds was all they got.

Then too, if we can believe the show, there were gorgeous alien females who traveled light years to get...ummm...bopped by him.

What are you complaining about, anyway? :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

I'd give him a bad miscast for the part he played in Teckwar. He acted more like a used car salesman than a police chief (or whatever the heck he was supposed to be)And he created that show!

Heck! for Teckwar, I'll give him worst producer and worst writer as well.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:06 PM

AWright, Jack!!! Bill Shatner now takes WORST in 5 (count 'em), 5 BIG CATEGORIES!!!!!!!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 03:48 PM

And nobody has mentioned the hairpiece yet. Actually, though, you have to give him high marks for training the hamster to lie still.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:13 PM

Actually you'd have to give it to him worst hairpiece at least twice. That curly wig on T.J Hooker was scary.

I'd also like to nomininate him for worst costume on a TV show for Star Trek. That form fitting shirt was not flattering to his pot belly AND that shirt used to rip any time he even thought about gitting in a fight. further exposing the flabby body.

And how about that padded styrofoam doorman's uniform he wore in The first Star Trek movie. Pheeeew!!

Mr. Shatner has made a career by being amusingly bad. The last decent thing he did was those "Twilight Zone" episodes.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:17 PM

Do people actually find him amusingly bad? I find the bare adjective is more my opinion.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:29 PM

What a legacy!

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:30 PM

Back in his pre-fame days, Jim Carey used to do utterly hilarious impressions of the entire Star Trek cast, but particulary of Captain Kirk. He was way funnier before Hollywood got hold of him (Carey, I mean...).

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 04:31 PM

He's always amused me.

The only thing funnier than his immitation of an actor is his impersonation of a singer!

I hear he is good at raising horses though.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 05:39 PM

Bill is a great guy, a fine actor and a rich man. He and I rode the open boxcars in the summertime. Bill'd play his guitar, I'd sit back and watch the stars and sip my wine...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Rev
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:07 PM

Shatner earns another footnote in film history for starring in the only movie ever made with dialogue entirely in Esperanto! The movie's called "Incubus" and it's recently been rereleased on video. It's a weird supernatural thriller, really pretty dull, except for the surreality of seeing Shatner overact in the peculiar artificial language of Esperanto. I would venture to say it's his best role! (There are subtitles, not that it really matters...)

Rev

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:49 PM

I love the guy! And I agree with Carol C. He is best at spoofing himself. Love the Price Line ads!

khandu

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:49 PM

I love the guy! And I agree with Carol C. He is best at spoofing himself. Love the Price Line ads!

khandu

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Firecat
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:56 PM

Silly question here. Who's William Shatner???

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: ddw
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:25 PM

It's not that he's so good a spoofing himself, khandu — it's just that he never runs out of material....

*BG*

david

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 09:55 PM

He was good in "Nightmare at 20,00 Feet", one of the better episodes of Twilight Zone. But the show called for someone who had to overact.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:20 AM

He breeds beautiful American Saddlebreds.

Well geez, even a Shatner has to do something well. Then again, for all I know, he may even be trying to breed with the mares................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 07:16 AM

Fire....cat...you...don't.....know....who....WilliamShatner..............is? Captain....James...T...Kirk...ofthe....Starship....Enterprise. It's.... five....year....

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:17 AM

That's James Tiberius Kirk. "To boldly go where no man has gone before!"

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: GUEST,Adolfo
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:58 AM

It's true that Shatner overacts and that he hardly has more than three or four gestures and poses (by far many more than Richard Gere, if you come to think of it). But it's also true that no one plays the Enterprise Captain like him. I always tend to see Patrick Stewart holding a battleaxe and embracing his daughter young Guinevere in Boorman's "Excalibur" rather than boldly going where no one (except Jim) has gone before.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:29 PM

They really are fine horses.....................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: bob jr
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:52 PM

i try to find the origin of a folk song and get almost no response..some idiotic thread about william shatner gets tons of responses,one even more moronic about bad actor/bad actresses gets 100s of responses...i need to find a site that deals with folk music cause this site aint it anymore

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Fiolar
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 12:53 PM

Doesn't he play "The Big Giant Head" in something or other? and didn't he get melted in "The Devil's Rain." Seriously though can any movie fan confirm that he played "Alexander the Great" in a TV movie and the probable date?

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 01:15 PM

I saw him on a rerun of "Third Rock from the Sun" last night. He is so bad he is amusing AND he is brilliant at making fun of himself.

Art. He plays guitar? Are there amazing ...pauses... between.. strumsandchordchanges?

Bob... I've found this site to be excellent for folk music and idiotic discussions. I consider these threads to be....Spontaneous...generation... of ... folkloreandhumour

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 01:16 PM

I can't confirm that.

It seems I have inadvertently offended a major Bob Dylan fan, namely bob jr. This is certainly ironical, since I am the most faithful Bob Dylan fan in this entire region (Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada).

I feel that a little idiocy is a welcome relief now and then...it relaxes a tense mind.

Besides, I've always kind of liked William Shatner, in a weird sort of way.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: khandu
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 09:45 PM

James "Talmadge" Kirk...until he became a movie star...then he became Tiberious.

Much like Bernard P. Fife...Bernard Milton Fife...Bernard Oliver Fife!

khandu

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 10:51 PM

Interesting...and who is Bernard Fife?

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 11:22 PM

I mean, like they're really damn nice horses.................

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 05:33 AM

Say there Bob jr, need any advice on your Bodhran technique ? got a problem with your drum ? want a custom made tipper ? need some help finding recordings of various styles ? I can help you there. Otherwise, don't go away mad... just go away.

Damn....those...aresome...fine...animals.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: SharonA
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 09:17 AM

Aw, c'mon now! The pompous, oversexed Captain James T. Kirk was a lot more fun to watch on still-restrictive sixtes TV than the goody-two-shoes Captain Christopher Pike would have been (I refer to the [first] Star Trek pilot show, also featuring the bushy-eyebrowed, order-barking Spock – eek!).

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:01 AM

Wouldn't that be BARNard Fife?

If Bob jr wants to talk about Newfoundland Folksongs, Woodie Guthrie or guitars, I'm here.

Gotta....love ...those..horses!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 11:19 AM

bob jr.

when and in what thread did you ask about the origin of a folk song? Chances are that you didn't get replies because people didn't know about your request - since a perusal of your postings shows only one thread created in the last year - which means you posted your question (if it was within the last year) in a thread about another subject.

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:44 PM

Special Announcement!!!

The ribbon-cutting ceremony has just been completed on the:

* * * William Shatner School of Bad Acting * * *

Almost everyone was there to witness this prestigious occasion! Well, quite a few people were there... Well, more than you might have expected...

Anyway, the WSSBA has now been launched, and will endeavour to perpetuate the extarordinary acting techniques of William Shatner, immortalized as James T. Kirk, Captain of the starship Enterprise (several of them, in fact).

The WSSBA is located on the grounds of a former mental asylum in beautiful Orillia, Ontario, Canada, and is fully equipped with McGill portable toilets.

I feel that in time this facility may eventually rival even the NYCFTTS in its scope and popularity.

We hope to have William Shatner himself here for a special dedication ceremony in September, when we erect a life-size statue of him in his starship uniform.

When asked to attend the ribbon-cutting, he politely declined, protesting a busy schedule. His parting words were "Piss off!", just before he hung up on us. He must have really been quite busy...

Mudcatters are invited to tour the magnificent facilities and brush up on their thespian skills at the earliest possible opportunity. Register for classes NOW!!!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:46 PM

Note: Despite rumours to the contrary, the former mental asylum is NOT my own home! Piss off, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:48 PM

Could I get a job teaching?

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 12:57 PM

Definitely! "To Boldly Screw Up As No One Has Screwed Up Before" is our modus operandi.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 01:05 PM

When is that defication ceremony?

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 02:40 PM

Jack - I'm puzzled. "defication"?

Do you mean "deification" (the making of William Shatner into a god...an intriguing notion!)

Or..."defecation"?

Or..."dedication"?

Please clear this up.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: MMario
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 02:46 PM

"defecation" would be appropriate, no?

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:28 PM

Just a very small joke! The syllabus must be pure crap!

Overating 101: Intro to Emoting Overating 201: The Dramatic Pause Overating 202: Advanced Dramatic Pauses

Physical Education 102: Judo holds which tear Shirts

Hygene 301: Diseases you can Catch from Green Strippers

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 03:43 PM

Right on, Jack! Gotta love those dramatic pauses! Here are a couple more courses...

Overacting 204: The Raised Eyebrow (including a section on the "Bones" technique, guaranteed to make your eyebrow bounce off a ten foot ceiling)

Overacting 205: Further Facial Tics by DeForest Kelly

Overacting 401: Pulling in Your Gut (not easy in those T-shirts!)

Overacting 402: Compulsive Hand Gestures (all 3 of 'em)

Overacting 403: Athletic Space-Age Fisticuffs for the masses (torn shirt compulsory)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: William Shatner scores BIG!!!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 07:55 PM

I don't suppose old BillyBob would agree to teach a course, seeing as how he could buy and sell the rest of us.

Are there any rumours of a duet with Neil ? Now there !!! Wouldn't that be a chart topper ?