Tune Req: Over the Water to Charlie

Subject: over the water to charlie sheet music
From:
Date: 20 Jan 98 - 06:50 PM

does anyone know where I can get the sheet music for this tune? Thanks

Subject: RE: over the water to charlie sheet music
From: Bruce O.
Date: 20 Jan 98 - 07:48 PM

How about an ABC? With ABC2WIN you can print from that. I can give ABCs of earliest known copy of that and the Irish version "Shawnbuy" (Sean Buidhe).

Subject: RE: over the water to charlie sheet music
From: Bruce O.
Date: 20 Jan 98 - 07:52 PM

I should have noted that ABC2WIN if free for playing, and for displaying tunes on your monitor, but you have to pay a fee (I've forgotten how much, but not very much) if you want the printing option.

Subject: Tune Add: OVER THE WATER TO CHARLIE
From: Bruce O.
Date: 20 Jan 98 - 09:41 PM

Here are the three earliest known copies of the tune.

In a later issue of CPC Oswald also gave "Shambuy". Similar is the 2nd strain of "The Jockey" in the Dancing Master. Both strans are similar in a version of the latter "She got money by't" in 'Songs in Flora's Opera', (1730).

X:1
T:Over the water to Charlie
N:Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion, bk 4, p. 7, c 1752
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:D
A2A (AB)G|(FG)E (DF)A|(AB)A (AF)A|B3D3|\
D2D (DE)F|(GA)E~E2D|(dc)B (AF)A|B3D3::\
d2e (fg)f|(ef)d (ec)A|d2e (fg)f|~e3A3|\
d2e (fg)f|(ef)d (ec)A|(B/2c/2d)B GFA|B3d3:|]

X:2
T:Shambuy (Sean Buidhe. Yellow/Fair John)
N:Rutherford's Coll'n of 60 Choice Country Dances (1754)
L:1/8
M:6/8
K:D
D2A AFA|B/2c/2dF ~E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3|\
D2A AFA|B/2c/2dFE2D|(d/2e/2f)d c/2d/2ec|B3d3::\
d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B/2c/2dF ~E2D|d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B3d3|\
d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B/2c/2dF~E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3:|]

X:3 T:Pot Stick N:Johnson's 200 Country Dances, IV, 1748 N:Via Kidson's Old Englsih Dances, p. 9 L:1/8 M:6/8 K:D D2A AFA|B/2c/2dF E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3::d/2e/2fd ecA|B/2c/2dF E2D|d/2e/2fd ecA|B3d3|d2e2fd ecA|B/2c/2dFE2D|DFA AFA|B3d3:|]

Subject: RE: over the water to charlie sheet music
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Jan 98 - 11:40 PM

Bruce, My ABCmus is still having problems with your tunes, but I don't understand the error messages I'm getting. Are other ABC programs playing them OK?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: over the water to charlie sheet music
From: Bruce O.
Date: 21 Jan 98 - 12:50 AM

I proofread my copy against ABC display, but didn't try to play these. I have old copies of these that I've for played coded for Quickbasic that worked.
I got an ABC today from an expert and my ABC2WIN can't even display it. I'll try to play mine and get back to you, maybe not until tomorrow.

Subject: Tune Add: OVER THE WATER TO CHARLIE
From: Bruce O.
Date: 21 Jan 98 - 01:13 AM

There was an error in "Pot Stick", forth measure from end, two /'s left out. The trouble is I can't play the ones marked up in html and I don't have your conversion MSIE. Below are copies that work on my ABC2WIN, with only the 'p' html separator between tunes. So you have to copy to ASCII file and add the proper line end, after each \ and before each x:, and before the first played note of each tune. i.e. after the K:D in the first blow = before the A2A ----.

X:1 T:Over the water to Charlie N:Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion, bk 4, p. 7, c 1752 L:1/8 M:6/8 K:D A2A (AB)G|(FG)E (DF)A|(AB)A (AF)A|B3D3|D2D (DE)F|(GA)E~E2D|(dc)B (AF)A|B3D3::d2e (fg)f|(ef)d (ec)A|d2e (fg)f|~e3A3|d2e (fg)f|(ef)d (ec)A|(B/2c/2d)B GFA|B3d3:|]

X:2 T:Shambuy (Sean Buidhe) N:Rutherford's Coll'n of 60 Choice Country Dances (1754) L:1/8 M:6/8 K:D D2A AFA|B/2c/2dF ~E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3|D2A AFA|B/2c/2dFE2D|(d/2e/2f)d c/2d/2ec|B3d3::d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B/2c/2dF ~E2D|d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B3d3|d/2e/2fd c/2d/2ec|B/2c/2dF~E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3:|]

X:3 T:Pot Stick N:Johnson's 200 Country Dances, IV, 1748 N:Via Kidson's Old Englsih Dances, p. 9 L:1/8 M:6/8 K:D D2A AFA|B/2c/2dF E2D|D2A AFA|B3d3::d/2e/2fd ecA|B/2c/2dF E2D|d/2e/2fd ecA|B3d3|d/2e/2fd ecA|B/2c/2dFE2D|DFA AFA|B3d3:|]