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BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?

GUEST,kendall 27 Aug 01 - 06:04 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 06:04 AM

Sutherland was also outstanding in M.A.S.H. the original movie. He says he is very shy and nervous about being in the public eye.
I dont know if it is on video, but, if it is, see Eye of the Needle. He is a German spy, stuck on a small island in Scotland. A real thriller.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 09:22 AM

Michael J. Fox is from British Columbia. He was a child actor in Vancouver before Family Ties. He's a big hockey fan and a proud Canadian. thought he lives in the USA now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 07:47 PM

Anybody see "Johanna"? I believe it was Sutherland's debut. Brilliant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: AliUK
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 09:33 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: AliUK
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 09:36 PM

whoops, hit the wrong button. Anyway...isn't Donald Sutherland too old? He was great in that film with Michael Douglas, the one where he had sex with Demie Moore. I don't know how Catherine Zeta Jones got pregnant, she never made a movie with Michael Douglas before the bairn was born. I mean doesn't he make films when he's feeling horny?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Kaleea
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 01:18 AM

Donald Sutherland and Christopher Plummer are two of my favorites-especially Plummer. Lest we forget, as I'm sure the trekkers out there will remind us, he played a Klingon in a Star Trek movie. And speaking of Trek, Patrick Stewart (Captain Jean Luc Picard, next generation) is terrific, and he knows, unlike Shatner, also from up north, that bald is beautiful! Then there's James Doohan (Scotty)who must use a wheel chair for all but the briefest walk--neverless, fathered a child a couple of years ago. Trek just had to come up, didn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 05:04 AM

Alberta Finney???


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: gnu
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 05:53 AM

While I agree with CarolC, if forced to choose, I would have to vote for Steve Smith, aka Red Green. Just a good ol' boy with a warped sense of humour. Duct tape, old cars, always jury-rigging up something, huntin n' fishin n' drinkin lodge, tall tales, advice on how to lie to the wife, etc, etc. And he's quite a musician and singer.

While no where close in sheer acting talent as Sutherland, et al, he represents the typical Canadian male, in character and spirit.

Keep yer stick on the ice.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 10:07 AM

red green for sure. Almost as funny as Steve Erkel. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Justa Picker
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:03 PM

Aliuk,
"I don't know how Catherine Zeta Jones got pregnant, she never made a movie with Michael Douglas before the bairn was born."

I guess you didn't see "Traffic".
(Excellent movie b.t.w.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:26 PM

I may have an idea how she got pregnant but if you don't know I'm not tellin'


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: GUEST,Paddy in PEI
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:48 PM

The Friendly Giant. He's big, shy, kind to children and animals, literate, and wears Mountie-like boots.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 01:12 PM

Mr. Dressup?

Only in Canada could the host of a kid's show get away with that name! Especially when he kept putting his hands in the "tickle trunk"!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Armen Tanzerian
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 07:56 PM

Hey! David Steinberg. Used to tell stories on talk shows about playing hooky and riding the bus in Winnipeg among the Hassidim. Pretty Canadian, that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: ddw
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 08:29 PM

I think Celine Dion, hands down. She's been pretending to be a singer for decades — which makes her a consistant, if not good, actor — and now spends all of her time in Florida — what could be more Canadian than that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: CarolC
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 07:22 PM

While I would never presume to tell Canadians who best represents their country, and while I laugh hardest at Gordon Pinsent, and I think Paul Gross is astounding in every respect... I must admit, gnu, that Steve Smith is kind of cute. (And funny.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: AliUK
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 08:19 PM

Yes but did our Cath and Manic Mike actually shag in the movie?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: ddw
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:24 AM

Carol C — Just an aside to your comment about Paul Gross. Until last fall my only awareness of him was as the Mountie in Due South, which has to be one of the STUPIDEST shows I've ever seen — right on a par with Murder, She Wrote — but he starred in Hamlet at the Stratford (Ont.) Festival and did a wonderful job. Certainly changed my estimation of his talent, but only made me angry that such a craftsman should stoop to the level of DS.

Of course, I've met people on both sides of the border who think DS is a great show. Go figure.

david


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:40 AM

Late on, but would have to agree with Barford, John Candy wins hands down.....hmmm or maybe Chief Dan George.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:52 AM

Boy, this is tough...

ddw, I'm afraid I'm going to have to reveal myself as one of the poor misguided fools who love Due South ;-)

I actually don't see any resemblance to Murder, She Wrote, which I personally can't stomach.

I see it more as being in the quirky, oddball spirit of Northern Exposure. What really bothers me is that they seem to have only made one or two seasons of it. I believe that Paul Gross was the executive producer of that show.

I guess there's just no accounting for my taste (or lack of it). *g*


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: English Jon
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:22 AM

No mention of Terrance and Phillip?

EJ


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 09:31 AM

Terrance and Phillip!!!!!!! AAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!

Due South spent a lot of time ridiculing Canadian Stereotypes. The Mountie that Paul Gross played was right out of the old Nelson Eddy movies. They only made a couple of seasons because the ratings weren't great. Gordon Pincent reprising his role from "the forest rangers" was the best part.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: SharonA
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 11:27 AM

Kaleea: I thought Patrick Stewart was from Britain (?).

Just peeking in to see which actor(s) I should be watching to get the most accurate impression of Canada!

SharonA (the ignorant American)


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: SDShad
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:35 PM

Well, there are some mighty fine performers mentioned on this thread (esp. Sutherland, Plummer (didn't know 'bout him), Pinsent, Myers, Short, Follows, Candy, Ackroyd, Bujold) but I must admit, when I saw the thread title, I thought of Paul Gross pretty much immediately. So I'll be over here in the "Due South" fans' corner with CarolC. Gotta admit, I've never heard it compared to "Murder She Wrote" either. Just don't see any similarities there. Among many other marked differences, MSW doesn't have a fraction of the wit or attitude of DS.

And of course, as a "Due South" fan and before that an "Airplane" and "Naked Gun" fan, I think Leslie Nielsen's a hoot.

And to add some musical content (not to mention drift) to this thread, a word or two should be said about the outstanding use of music in "Due South," not just in its selection (Loreena McKennitt, Sarah McLachlan, Dire Straits, Crash Test Dummies, Klaatu, Ashley MacIsaac, Leahy, and a bunch of other interesting-sounding stuff you and I may never have heard of), but in the often-seamless was it was used to accent the story line. I must also sheephishly admit that I was mostly unaware of the marvelous music of Stan Rogers until exposed to "Barrett's Privateers," "Northwest Passage," and "Watching the Apples Grow" in episodes of "Due South."

The show also included a fair number of original songs, much of them written or co-written by Paul Gross. My personal favorite is "Ride Forever," which Gross's character, Constable Benton Fraser, sings with the RCMP Musical Ride on a train:

Ride Forever - Paul Gross
(by Paul Gross & David Keeley)

I was born north of Great Slave, 1898
And I rode near all my life on a ranch near Devil's Gate
And I've seen this world about me bend and flip and change
Hey, it feels like rain - that's a thunder cloud

We'll, I've been called a coward, but I've seen two world wars
And I lost my son Virgil, my Korean reward
And my Lucy died last summer - you ask me if I cry?
Hell, I'll show you tears, they're all over this ground
They're falling from these blue Alberta skies

But I'm going to ride forever
You can't keep horsemen in a cage
Should the angels call, well it's only then
I might pull the reins

They tell me I'm an old man, they tell me I am blind
They took my driver's license, this house ain't far behind
I say jump back all you big suits, 'cause you've got something wrong
I ain't gone, no I ain't gone

I am still breathing, and I still have my pride
And I have my memories, your life it never dies
Like the wind that blows in thunder
Or the stallion on the fly - I got it all
And I'm standing tall underneath these blue Alberta skies
And I'm going to ride forever
You can't keep horsemen in a cage
Should the angels call well it's only then
I might pull in the reins

So I say to all you old men - don't let yourself get broke
If you think the world's gone crazy, and it's scratching at your throat
It's time to dust off that old saddle, get it on a horse Kick up your spurs, we're gonna run like stink
We're gonna tear across these blue Alberta skies

We're gonna ride forever
You can't keep horsemen in a cage
Should the angels call
It's only then
I might pull in the reins

And you know, how can you not just love a show where one of the most interesting characters is a domesticated wolf named "Diefenbaker?"

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:38 PM

Diefenbaker

Of couse "Diefenbaker" was named after one of Canada's crustier prime ministers. He started out the series as a DEAF wolf. I remember looking at the dog and realizing "That isn't a wolf its a sled dog!" and thinking that they might get away with that for the U.S. audience but a lot of Canadians can tell a wolf from a dog. Sure enough, few episodes later Paul Gross' charater was calling Diefenbaker a part wolf and soon enough it became a running joke with Gross saying, with an exasperated look on his face, "I don't know what he is!"

SharonA, I really think that the mounties on Due South, as played by Paul Gross, Gordon Pincent, and Leslie Neilson are Prototypes for the best parts of how Canadians like to see themselves. Polite, fair, accomodating, respectful of other cultures, Self depreciating sense of humour.

Where the motto of the United States is "Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" Canada's Motto is "Peace, Order and Good Government" There is no greater symbol of that than the Mounties and those three actors have played Mounties so well!


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:53 PM

SharonA, in order to get the most accurate impression of Canada, I recommend going there (as the guest of Canadians, if possible) and staying for as long as they'll let you. It will be worth it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: GUEST,Steven G.
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 02:44 PM

I agree with SDShad with Paul Gross. I am fan of Due South. Paul Gross done a great job with the show, doing the writing and producing of the show. And he is a great songwriter as well with Ride Forever.

And also being a big fan of Stan Rogers music, it was great to see the show exposing some of Stan Rogers music like Barrett's Privateer, Northwest Passage, but I never heard Watching for the Apples Grow on the show. And also playing material from other great singer/songwriters in Canada like Sarah MacLauchlin.

He is a great actor, and fans in the States, and over in Britain enjoyed the show, a shame it was cancelled so many times. And there is other great actors that came from Canada like Jim Carrey, and Leslie Nielsen. You can go on and on, and all are doing great now.

S.G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: SDShad
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 02:56 PM

I didn't realize it until I went to a DS website, Steven, but when the ghost of the elder Constable Fraser set up his own "office" in the closet of Benton's office, on two or three occasions "Watching the Apples Grow" was the music only Benton could hear coming from the closet....

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: SharonA
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 03:08 PM

CarolC: So when can I come over to your place and how long can I stay? ;^) (just kidding!)

That's a good thought, though; from southeastern PA how long would it take to drive to Canada? 10-12 hours? But I'm not sure a short vacation would give me a truly accurate impression... maybe I should just move up there (at least until Dubbya is out of office)!

No one's mentioned Ryan Stiles or Colin Mockrie (the correct spelling?) of the American version of "Whose Line Is It, Anyway?" Where do they fall on the Canada-representation scale?


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 03:49 PM

I could tell Colin was from Canada in a couple of minutes of seeing him perform. Ryan was tougher but I believe he only claims to be 1/2 Canadian. They both have a quick wit and off-beat sense of humour, like so many Canadians, many of who are honoured in this thread. While few of my friends in Canada approach these comedians in stature, I've spent many an evening back in Canada, sitting around a barrom table entertaining each other.

About getting an accurate impression of Canada. Canada is a very diverse country. You would certainly have to visit many cities and meet many people. You can spend a lifetime at it and probably not repeat yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: CarolC
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 04:37 PM

Sharon A, I wish!

I'm in West Virginia. But I've been to all the major cities and a few wilderness areas (and a lot of road in between) in three of the eastern provinces as a tourist, and I spent about a month and a half in Ontario last winter as the guest of Canadians. Being there as a guest of Canadians was an entirely different experience than being a tourist, and I highly recommend it if you can find a way to do it.

I'd seriously consider moving to Canada if they would let me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Whic Actor best represents Canada?
From: ddw
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:21 PM

It's OK, CarolC — you're probably a pretty good human being, despite your affinity for Due South.

Seriously, I just can't be bothered with a show that is just a parody of itself. I've never found much in that kind of humor. Murder, She Wrote is about on a par in terms of quality. Very stilted acting, silly plot lines and every line a groaner.

Oh well, to each his own. You can watch DS again when it's my turn, OK?

cheers,

david


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