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BS: Goddess-y?

GUEST,Crazy Little Woman 24 Aug 01 - 10:05 PM
sophocleese 24 Aug 01 - 10:08 PM
Anglo 24 Aug 01 - 10:12 PM
Peg 24 Aug 01 - 10:19 PM
wysiwyg 24 Aug 01 - 11:28 PM
iamjohnne 24 Aug 01 - 11:36 PM
Sorcha 24 Aug 01 - 11:45 PM
GUEST,Crazy Little Woman 25 Aug 01 - 12:45 AM
GUEST,Chip2447 25 Aug 01 - 01:00 AM
wysiwyg 25 Aug 01 - 02:54 AM
GUEST,Sledge 25 Aug 01 - 05:00 AM
gnu 25 Aug 01 - 05:59 AM
GUEST,sledge 25 Aug 01 - 06:24 AM
GUEST,Crazy Little Woman 25 Aug 01 - 10:44 PM
Peg 26 Aug 01 - 01:12 AM
GUEST,sledge 26 Aug 01 - 04:06 AM
Peg 26 Aug 01 - 10:19 AM
Art Thieme 26 Aug 01 - 10:41 AM
GUEST 26 Aug 01 - 11:11 AM
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Little Hawk 26 Aug 01 - 01:55 PM
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sophocleese 28 Aug 01 - 09:35 AM
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GUEST,~gargoyle 29 Aug 01 - 03:18 AM
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Subject: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Crazy Little Woman
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 10:05 PM

I work in an unassuming fabric store, and today an upscale-looking woman came in and asked me to point her to some fabric which would be "Goddessy." (She looked, as Kinky Friedman put it, like a cross between a blonde and a praying mantis.)

"Goddessy?" I asked, and she nodded. "Something purple," she added. She gave me the large,warm smile of a person who is asking someone else to do their work for them, since we both knew that it was strictly up to her to locate something which fit her mental conception of godessy.

This is Kansas City, where there are 28 pages of Mc's in the phone book. So I knew she didn't mean Pallas Athena. Rapidly I thought "Goddess-nature-Celtic-tree worship" and I showed her a fabric with purple trees on it. She had just started to push out her lips in what would have been a pretty pout 25 years ago, when an acquaintance spotted her. They threw themselves at each other, hugging and mwah-mwahing, and I took the opportunity to slip away and wait on other customers.

Now that I have had time to think about it, I have the response ready for this. Namely "I'm so sorry! All our samite went to clearance a couple months ago, and the quilters snapped it all up.":-)

In the meantime, are there any pagan Mudcatters reading this who would like to share their conceptions of what fabrics are goddessy? I'm interested.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: sophocleese
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 10:08 PM

Well Lady Godiva apparently liked ve-e-ery thin fabrics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Anglo
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 10:12 PM

Think Aphrodite on Xena.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Peg
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 10:19 PM

um, well depends what she was making! a gown? ritual robes? an altar cloth? curtains?

I would go with velvet, silk, sandwashed rayon, sensual fabrics...maybe shimmery ones! colors like greens, purples, etc.

i have something called a goddess dress that is made from woven rayon, draped on bias; can be worn in dozens of combinations (two layers).


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 11:28 PM

Something that drapes richly. In lame'.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: iamjohnne
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 11:36 PM

I think I would go for a crepe or a rayon ----something that drapes anyway.

Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Aug 01 - 11:45 PM

Do you suppose she even knows what/who the Goddess is? or What She Does???..........


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Crazy Little Woman
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 12:45 AM

No, I don't think she knew about the Goddess, but I don't either, really.

If I were making a garment, I think I would make something like the illustrations in the old book called "Celtic Mythology." I don't know the author, but it's a Dover reprint. The clothes in it are so graceful.

It's interesting that Peg names green and purple as good colors. Mixed colors like green, purple and orange are eschewed by businesspeople as somehow suspect, artistic rather than practical. They wear blue, red and black. If you don't believe me, read "Dress for Success." As for me, I'm the green and purple type. Hate orange, though.

Somebody please explain to me what "Aphrodite on Xena" is. Aphrodite, I understand. Meanwhile, it's bedtime. I'll be back tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Chip2447
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 01:00 AM

KC Ren Fest is just around the corner, I'll keep my eyes peeled for a purple goddess-y yuppie type lady. Should'nt be difficult to spot...


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 02:54 AM

Xena, Warrior Princess, TV show in the US.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Sledge
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:00 AM

Goddessy, mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Leather, chains, studs or have I been away from home for tooooooo long, right now a torn bin liner/garbage sack on the right person would probably look goddessy enough for me.

:-)

Sledge (who's covering for a friend who just contacted amoebic dysentry)


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: gnu
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 05:59 AM

Don't forget to wash your hands after you type.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,sledge
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 06:24 AM

That should be contracted, not contacted.

Cheers

Sledge (busy wiping down everything with disinfecting agents)

PS having said that I can now think of some women who would look goddessy clad only in Azowipes :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Crazy Little Woman
Date: 25 Aug 01 - 10:44 PM

Chip 2447: at the Renfest, don't look for a godessy lady -- an enormous SUV dropping off a purple-clad daughter is more likely.

Sledge: I am have certain goddess-like powers, and I divine that you are lonesome, perharps far from home, and need someone to talk to. Take my advice. Stop talking about garbage can liners and Azowipes, whatever they are. Read the postings and respond, either by asking intelligent questions or making a reasonable remark. The magic word is RESPOND. There's hope for you. Did you notice that the person who made the irrelevant remark about Godiva was completely ignored?

WYSIWIG: Thanks. So Xena is on a TV show. I don't watch TV. One reason I don't watch TV is that the writers never get women's dialog write. Apparently they never leave their cigar-choked rooms and have no idea of the complexity and subtlety (sp?) of the speech of normal women. Well, same for movies and plays.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Peg
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 01:12 AM

Xena is a very well written show, actually...and if you think that there are no well written shows on television (or well written dialogue for women) you haven't watched much of it lately! There really are some well written shows out there amongst all the crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,sledge
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 04:06 AM

Goddess like powers, so Isis and Aphrodite can add judgemental and cranky to their list of supernatural skills.

;-)

Sledge


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Peg
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 10:19 AM

watch yer step, foolish mortal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 10:41 AM

I don't mean to be picky but................

What the hell ever happened to The customer is always right ????

Lately, if I go into a shop, if a clerk comes over to me and says, "May I help you?"----I just might faint. That's especially true if a customer looks a bit interesting / eccentric. Talking to them just might be fascinating and/or enlightening.

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 11:11 AM

Just who is this Goddess person, and what exactly is it that she does?


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: hesperis
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 01:32 PM

Well, you could always have asked her what KIND of "Goddessy" she wanted. You could have had an oddessey (sp?) of a search!


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 01:55 PM

Crazy Little Woman - Yeah, this is a kind of snide attitude to adopt toward a customer, I'd say. Of course we all react that way toward some people on some occasions. Maybe what you couldn't stand about her was some quality that lurks hidden inside you (hee! hee!). Maybe what I don't like about your attitude is the same thing in me (gulp!).

God, analysis is wonderful, isn't it?

Off topic comments are common on Mudcat, so live with it and learn to enjoy it, maybe.

On topic, however....Goddess-y clothing to me would be long and flowing and exotic looking dresses in vibrant and striking colours. Colours that grab you by the plectrum and bounce you off the wall. Definitely not your faded pastels or office lady wear.

Avoid anything that looks suburban or business-like. A Goddess's time is far too valuable to waste on mere business, and if a Goddess lives in the suburbs she takes care to maintain a country retreat in the mountains or by some convenient body of water to which she can flee at appropriate intervals.

Flamboyancy comes to mind. Purple, crimson, black, and deep green come to mind.

Now did you start this thread because you actually wanted to know what "Goddess-y" means or because you wanted everyone here to know what a ditz your customer was?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Peter T.
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 03:01 PM

There is an incarnation of the goddess Kali who wears a necklace of all the skulls of the human heads that have been sacrificed for her, and she wears a dress that when she moves rustles with the subdued shrieks and moans of suffering humanity. The dress is a sort of iridescent colour, because if you look closely enough at it you can see millions of souls writhing in endless torments. Certainly what the hot Goddess is wearing this month.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: The Walrus
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 03:16 PM

I think the question to ask is Which system of beliefs? What would suit a Hindu goddess would cause uproar if seen anywhere near Valhalla, while a valkyry would certainly be a source of comment on Olympus and the Greco/Roman godesses would seem decidedly underdressed to the Chinese. I'd say stick to "superfine" materials, start with wools and linens, moving toward satins and silks as you move east and lighter materials as you move toward the warmer zones (just think what the "locals" wear) and throw in assorted samite, leather (and/or armour/weapons) depending on the nature of the deity.

Regards

Walrus


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 07:48 PM

Nice contributions, Peter and Walrus! Very Goddess-y material indeed!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: sophocleese
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 08:52 PM

Botticelli's Venus preferred natural fibers, and jewellery made of seashells. A lot of goddesses don't seem to be that fussed about what they're wearing and just walk around clothed in divinity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 09:06 PM

I believe that sums it up just about perfectly, Sophocleese.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 26 Aug 01 - 11:06 PM

Yes ... well .. I was just going to say ... That when I'm feeling Goddess-y ... I like to wrap myself in satin sheets.

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Crowhugger
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 12:47 AM

Well, I suppose that a goddess of fertility (rabbit cloak, dandelion tiara) would dress differently from a goddess of power lunches (charcoal grey or red wool, low heels) who would dress differently from a goddess of eternal grace (not a clue). CLW, I get the feeling that your customer might have been stopped short by a clarifying question such as, "Which sort of goddess do you have in mind?"


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Amergin
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 01:46 AM

Goddessy clothing to me would be Hes in a panflute bikini.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: lady penelope
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 04:29 PM

Round here Goddessy is anything from animal pelts to lame. It realy does depend on what conception you have of Goddesses. I always feel it should be something that makes you feel larger than life ( but that's also down to design of apparrel ) and not "does my bum look big in this?".

Hope every ones posts have helped, but this woman sounded like some one who doesn't really think and simply wants everything plonked in her lap. You have my sympathies, I, personally, wouldn't last 5 minutes in a shop without thumping someone.

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 06:08 PM

Crazy Little Woman,

I agree with Art on this--I think people ought to be able to walk into a shop and ask for something without getting a lot of condescending attitude--I don't see anything redeeming at all in the way that you handled that woman, and your comments about her show that, based on a few completely superficial things, you disliked her intensely, used that feeling as a justification for not doing your job.

If I had a friend who told me the story that you did, I would suggest that they needed to find a different kind of job, because it was obvious that they didn't like doing the things that they had to do--If someone told me that they had an employee who behaved as you did, I would say fire them immediately, before they could do more damage--


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 07:40 PM

Goddesses, according to Lane Bryant and all the "singles" sites, are large women. I'd have shown her a size 24 mumu and walked away.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 08:50 PM

Well M.Ted, if I walked into a shop and asked for something to make me look a like a god, I think I would deserve to get a few sniggers.

Anyway, do goddesses wear clothes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 11:08 PM

This one, would rather not.

PS. I think Goddesses come in 'One size Fits All'

LL


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: sophocleese
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 09:35 AM

It is kind of tricky. I spent a few years working in book stores. Yes the customer is always right and yes you always treat them with courtesy and sometimes they're such stupid buggers that you find it difficult to believe they read anything more difficult than Good Night Moon. The point is you never let them know that's what you think, and you ask for help from colleagues if you're running into trouble trying to figure out what it is that they want. And there will be times when you get sideswiped by a very strange request. Sounds like this is what happened with Crazy Little Woman.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Kim C
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 09:59 AM

Silk charmeuse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Celtic Soul
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 10:23 AM

If it had been me, I'd have leapt straight for the following question: "What do you need it for?"

I would add, as a clerk in such a store, her asking you for help is not her asking you to do her job, it is asking you to do yours. Not everyone has knowledge of such things. She may very well have an in depth working knowledge of Medicine, for instance, but be completely ignorant to what the difference is between "chiffon" and a "poly-cotton blend", and would need the guidance of someone who can tell her, "Oh, you don't want that one for a kindergarten school play, it'll tear too easily"

Who knows? The thing is, a well placed question would have answered this and more, and is that not what those of us in the service industry are all about?


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Gypsy
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 11:08 PM

'Ats right. Having done retail for way too many years...have had far more interesting questions in my store. When in doubt, throw the question back, until you know what they want. What's the occasion? Formal, ritual, party? Do'ya have a pattern? Etc, etc. My favorite query? "Where are the whales?" (store on the bluff of the pacific ocean) hmmmmmm...mebbe that's what i don't do it n'more!


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,~gargoyle
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 03:18 AM

You obviously missed out on the first lesson in sales. (And "web-manner")If I owned the little shop you work in....you would be fired!!!

(and banned from non-musical postings to this site)

Listen to a little more Simon and Garfunkle, and remember their admonition to keep trying "to keep the customer satisfied."


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: Diva
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:36 AM

Mudcat t-shirt and an enigmatic smile perhaps??


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:50 AM

See the Towersey thread and the Wimmins Night photos.(Ye Gods, gruesome or what!)
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: Goddess-y?
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 Aug 01 - 10:59 AM

Thread creep: but how would you dress a Mudcat Barbie????
RtS (Kaftan, Birkenstocks, headband and a guitar?)


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