Subject: Afro-American Hymnal From: GUEST,Sharon Date: 28 Aug 01 - 08:16 PM Can you give me the name of, and where I can purchase, a good Afro-American hymnal. I was looking for words to a tune, and it was suggested I check in a Black church hymnal. Which are good ones? Thanks. |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: toadfrog Date: 28 Aug 01 - 09:56 PM Well, you could try clicking HERE, they seem to think very highly of their hymnal, though I personally cannot vouch for it one way or the other. And the Episcopals offer this Hymnal which may be good, and which certainly may be purchased. this site may also provide leads; I have not the patience to read it through. |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Aug 01 - 10:00 PM I am using one I like very much recommended by another Mudcatter-- Songs of Zion, Verolga Nix. Amazon has it new and DID have it used. Some items in it include chords. If you click the banjo-catfish logo on the forum page and follow the links you will find a link to Amazon that, if you purchase through it, supports the Mudcat. Also, what piece are you looking for? I bet someone here has it, maybe me. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: masato sakurai Date: 28 Aug 01 - 10:26 PM I like Songs of Zion, too. Warren's, Ev'ry Time I Feel the Spirit (1997) is not a hymnal, but contains "101 best-loved psalms, gospel hymns, and spiritual songs of the African-American Church."
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Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: JohnInKansas Date: 29 Aug 01 - 11:02 AM Not strictly a hymnal, but there is a 1992 Dover reprint of Harold Courlander's "Negro Folk Music, U.S.A." (original 1963) that does include a number of "anthems, spirituals," etc. I picked up a new copy fairly recently for $7.95, so it's apparently still readily available, and cheap enough to be interesting as a "fill-out" addition to a person's ref library. ISBN 0-486-27350-4, about 300 pages, approx 40 tunes scored, with some additional text-only lyrics. John |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 29 Aug 01 - 11:07 AM Years ago in an "Army surplus" store where I was looking for cheap camping gear I found a US Army hymnal which had a huge selection of gospel/spirituals in. I think I ended up passing it on to the local Scouts, I don't seem to have it any more. RtS |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: masato sakurai Date: 29 Aug 01 - 12:11 PM According to Daniel Kingman, American Music: A Panorama, 2nd ed. (Schirmer, 1990),
More recent collections that reflect to a greater degree the influence of gospel music in the various denominations are: The New National Baptist Hymnal (incorporating songs by Cleveland and Crouch); Songs of Zion (from the United Methodist Church); Lift Every Voice (from the Episcopal Church); and Yes, Lord! (from the Church of God in Christ, a black Holiness church). Sorry to say, of these I know only Songs of Zion, but this info may be of some help. |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Kaleea Date: 30 Aug 01 - 12:28 AM All of the above are good suggestions. You might try looking for old, used classroom music books which would have been used in elementary school music classes. They are wonderful sources of songs of America's heritage as well as songs from most every country & former country on the planet. I also collect hymnals and my favorites have been the US Armed Services hymnals. If there is a military installation near you, you might try contacting one of the chaplains, as they might allow you to have an old hymnal which would not be in use anymore. |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Aug 01 - 12:29 AM And nursing homes are another source for good old hymnals to borrow. You could call an activities director in a place that has a large AA population and ask what they have. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Aug 01 - 12:32 AM I thought I had a real 'find" when I came across a 1957 copy of the African Methodist Episcopal Hymnal. Not so. It's just like most of the other standard Protestant hymnals. Lift Every Voice and Sing II is much more what I was looking for. It was published in 1993 by the Church Pension Fund (Episcopalians). For more historic stuff, try American Negro Spirituals, by James Weldon Johnson and J. Rosamond Johnson. The book was published in two volumes in 1925 and 1926, and is now available as a single paperback volume from Da Capo Press. Sharon, what's the song you're looking for? There's a good chance we can find the information for you. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Index: LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING From: wysiwyg Date: 31 Aug 01 - 04:31 PM Joe and I are trying to scan text out of our songbooks' indexes to post here. Here is the index for the book Joe recommended, Lift Every Voice and Sing II, 1993, the Church Pension Fund (Episcopalians): ~S~ ==========================================================
LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING II, INDEX JRO If I understand the index correctly, the song titles are ALL CAPS and the first lines of songs are in normal case. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: Index: American Negro Songs (Work) From: wysiwyg Date: 31 Aug 01 - 09:30 PM One of my all-time favorites. GREAT introductory material too. ~S~ ==========================================================
American Negro Songs, 230 Folk Songs and Spirituals, Religious and Secular. John W. Work, Dover Publications, Mineola, NY 1998. Orig. pub. Crown Publishers, NY, 1940. ISBN 0-486-40271-1.
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Subject: Index: Slave Songs of the United States From: wysiwyg Date: 31 Aug 01 - 09:51 PM This is online HERE, and I found it worth printing all of it for recliner browsing. My apologies that the readability of the following is ot the best. (It's a text conversion from the website.) This is a compilation of several collectors' work (note names associated with each title), in a specific area, as described in the introductory material. ~S~
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Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Aug 01 - 10:49 PM Oh, my. I hadn't noticed that "Slave Songs" is a one-page document, with scans of every single page of the book. It should take forever and a day to load. Too bad they decided to design it that way. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 31 Aug 01 - 10:58 PM No, Joe, it printed in less than an hour. Piece of cake. Or save it as a text file for lyrics, and print selected saved pix of the music when needed. Or bribe me to send you a copy.... ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: masato sakurai Date: 01 Sep 01 - 12:32 AM As for the reprinted editions of Slave Songs of the United States, there have been at least four known to me.
(1) New York: Peter Smith, 1929, 1951.
I think (3) & (4) are in print now. Masato
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Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Sep 01 - 12:38 AM Masato, do you happen to have the Jerry Silverman edition? Chords are always helpful... we DO these in our church, as I come acorss the ones I'd like to sing with our people. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: masato sakurai Date: 01 Sep 01 - 12:45 AM Yes, Susan, I have the Oak edition. The chords of which song or songs are you looking for? Masato |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Sep 01 - 01:08 AM Masato, that is wonderful! As I explore through the copy I printed, may I ask for chords as I encounter the ones I'd like to do? Hmmm... what caught me today.... I'll have to go take another look! ~Susan |
Subject: African-American Spirituals Permathread From: wysiwyg Date: 08 Sep 01 - 02:50 PM The material above that is pertinent to African-American Spirituals, and any new material about them added here, will eventually be edited into the new permathread on African-American Spirituals. Please post what you know, especially links to good past discussions, here-- until it gets brought together in the permathread. Full bibliographic information is always appreciated, and if you know if the material currently is in print (or not), that is also helpful. Thanks! ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Sep 01 - 01:05 AM Another respected source for spirituals is described HERE, where John in Brisbane gives a partial index for "The Fisk Jubilee Songs. A collection of 66 JUBILEE and PLANTATION SONGS (Sacred and Secular) as sung by the Fisk Jubilee Singers on their world's tour." ~s~ |
Subject: Index: Every time I Feel the Spirit From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Sep 01 - 03:38 AM Masato mentioned Ev'ry Time I Feel the Spirit, by Gwendolyn Sims Warren. I have an uncorrected proof copy. In the index, every song is shown as being on page 000 - but I think the index should be close to a true listing of what's in the book. It's a terrific book, with lyrics, music, and the stories behind 101 hymns. -Joe Offer- I. The Negro Spirituals Slave Songs, Plantation Songs, and Jubilee Songs, 1600-1870 1. Ain't Got Time to Die 2. All God's Chillun Got Shoes 3. Amen 4. Deep River 5. Ev'ry Time I Feel de Spirit 6. Ezekiel Saw the Wheel 7. Give Me Jesus 8. Glory, Glory Hallelujah! 9. Go Down, Moses 10. Go, Tell It on the Mountain 11. Great Day! Great Day! 12. He Arose 13. His Name So Sweet 14. Hold On 15. I Know It Was the Blood 16. I Want Jesus to Walk with Me 17. I Want to Be Ready (Walk in Jerusalem) 18. In Dat Great Gittin' Up Mornin' 19. My Lord, What a Morning 20. Nobody Knows de Trouble I've Seen 21. Oh, Freedom 22. Oh! What a Beautiful City 23. Ride On, King Jesus 24. Sinner, Please Don't Let Dis Harves' Pass 25. Steal Away 26. Sweet Jesus 27. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot 28. Take Me to the Water 29. There Is a Balm in Gilead 30. This Little Light of Mine 31. Wade in the Water 32. Were You There? II. The Gospel Songs Gospel Hymns, Historical Gospel, and Traditional Songs, Songs of Charles A. Tindley, Thomas A. Dorsey, Lucie E. Campbell, and others, 1870-1960 33. Christ Is All 34. Didn't It Rain 35. He Took My Sins Away 36. Hold to God's Unchanging Hand 37. I Am on the Battlefield for My Lord 38. I Bowed on My Knees and Cried Holy 39. I Love the Lord 40. I'd Rather Have Jesus 41. I'll Be Caught Up to Meet Him in the Air 42. I'll Fly Away 43. I've Got a Feeling 44. Jesus, the Light of the World 45. Just a Closer Walk with Thee 46. Let Jesus Fix It for You 47. The Lord Will Make a Way Somehow 48. My God Is Real (Yes, God Is Real) 49. My Soul Loves Jesus 50. Nothing Between 51. Peace in the Valley 52. Something Within 53. Stand By Me 54. Sweet, Sweet Spirit 55. Take My Hand, Precious Lord 56. Until I Found the Lord 57. We'll Understand It Better By and By 58. We've Come This Far by Faith 59. Yes, Lord III. The Euro-American Hymns Hymns of Watts, Wesley, Crosby, and others, 1600-1950 60. A Mighty Fortress Is Our God 61. All Hail the Power of Jesus' Name 62. Amazing Grace 63. Battle Hymn of the Republic 64. Blessed Assurance 65. Come Thou Fount 66. Great Is Thy Faithfulness 67. His Eye Is on the Sparrow 68. Holy, Holy, Holy 69. How Great Thou Art 70. I Need Thee Every Hour 71. It Is Well with My Soul 72. Jesus, Lover of My Soul 73. Jesus Loves Me 74. Joy to the World! 75. Just As I Am 76. Leaning on the Everlasting Arms 77. Lift Him Up (How to Reach the Masses) 78. Near the Cross 79. O For a Thousand Tongues 80. O How I Love Jesus 81. Rock of Ages 82. The Solid Rock 83. Take the Name of Jesus 84. There Is a Fountain 85. We're Marching to Zion 86. What a Friend We Have in Jesus IV. The contemporary gospel songs Songs of Crouch, Hawkins, Smallwood, Franklin, and others, 1960-Present 87. Bless His Holy Name 88. The Blood Will Never Lose Its Power 89. Breathe into Me, Oh Lord 90. The Center of My Joy 91. Church Medley 92. Give Me a Clean Heart 93. God Is 94. My Tribute 95. O Happy Day! 96. Savior More Than Life 97. Soon and Very Soon 98. Through It All 99. To You, Jesus 100. Total Praise 101. Why We Sing |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:20 AM Joe, that's wonderful. I will add that to my index file. ~Susan |
Subject: Index: Look Away (World Around Songs) From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Sep 01 - 04:55 PM The following material was compiled via contributions from international subscribers to "choralist@lists.colorado.edu." These are all arranged for choir. ~S~
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Ain'a that good news, Dawson
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Subject: Afro-American Hymnal/Online Concert From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Jan 04 - 02:50 PM CLICK HERE to see and hear the Metropolitan Music Ministry, which functions under the direction of the REVEREND NOLAN WILLIAMS, JR., Minister of Music. Williams is also the chief music editor of the highly-acclaimed bestseller, the African American Heritage Hymnal, a book which has documented much of the oral sacred music tradition of the Black Church. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Haruo Date: 27 Oct 12 - 11:25 AM The supplement to Songs of Zion, Zion Still Sings, which includes also newer material and even a couple of hiphop hymns, is worth looking at. I don't think it would work as a stand-alone hymnal, but as a supplement to any of the "normal" AA hymnals — (as a member of Alcoholics Anonymous, I always do a double-take when I see, let alone use, "AA" that way) — like Lift Every Voice and Sing II (Episcopal), Lead Me, Guide Me (Catholic), African-American Heritage Hymnal (interdenominational from GIA), New National Baptist Hymnal, or others (Lutheran, COGIC, AME/Z, etc. mentioned above, I think it would come in handy. Incidentally, Hymnary.org has a complete index of the AAHH, with page scans at least of the public-domain materials. |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Haruo Date: 31 Oct 12 - 11:51 AM Ran across my 1942 Army Navy Hymnal yesterday, so if anybody wants something looked up in it, I'm the guy. I've begun adding it to the Hymnary.org database, which only had the DNAH first-lines list. For a hymnal its day it's indeed got a great section of Spirituals (though oddly neither of the best known Christmas ones (Rise up, Shepherd and Got tell it on the Mountain) nor the most "liturgically apt" one (Let us break bread together). But then those you can find in many other hymnals today, whereas some of these are harder to come by: I have a mother over yonder Don't you want to go to heaven Goodbye, mourner, I'm going home My Lord, what a mourning (when the stars begin to fall) In-a this-a band we have sweet music I've got a robe (crown, shoes, harp, song) Listen to the lambs (all a-crying) It's me, it's me O Lord standing in the need of prayer Steal away, steal away, steal away to Jesus Great day! Great day, the righteous marching O Mary, don't you weep, don't you mourn And I couldn't hear nobody pray Lord, I want to be a Christian Were you there when they crucified my Lord? Swing low, sweet chariot When Israel was in Egypt's land (Let my people go) Nobody knows the trouble I've seen Generally I'm not in favor of segregation, but it sure made it easier for me to locate the spirituals in that hymnal! ;-) |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Oct 12 - 10:04 PM Gee, Haruo, you sure are driving me to buy a lot of hymnals... |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Haruo Date: 31 Oct 12 - 11:06 PM I have over 200 of the little buggers, Joe. They seem to multiply. Watch out! ;-) |
Subject: RE: Afro-American Hymnal From: Joe Offer Date: 31 Oct 12 - 11:39 PM Same here, Haruo, same here. I have little baby hymnals running all over the house.... |
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