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Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's

GUEST,hotjoe@earthlink.net 30 Aug 01 - 02:36 AM
Mudcatter 30 Aug 01 - 02:43 AM
Bat Goddess 30 Aug 01 - 09:39 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 30 Aug 01 - 09:47 AM
Pinetop Slim 30 Aug 01 - 09:51 AM
Wolfgang 30 Aug 01 - 10:34 AM
SINSULL 30 Aug 01 - 10:42 AM
Wyrd Sister 30 Aug 01 - 03:55 PM
toadfrog 30 Aug 01 - 04:49 PM
wysiwyg 30 Aug 01 - 06:30 PM
GUEST,iamjohnne 30 Aug 01 - 06:33 PM
Eric the Viking 30 Aug 01 - 06:40 PM
Podger 30 Aug 01 - 06:50 PM
Gareth 30 Aug 01 - 06:57 PM
iamjohnne 30 Aug 01 - 09:32 PM
toadfrog 30 Aug 01 - 09:55 PM
Deckman 30 Aug 01 - 11:35 PM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 31 Aug 01 - 03:51 AM
Michael in Swansea 31 Aug 01 - 08:30 AM
Bob P 31 Aug 01 - 10:08 AM
Marymac90 31 Aug 01 - 11:39 AM
toadfrog 31 Aug 01 - 01:04 PM
Ivan 31 Aug 01 - 01:23 PM
kytrad (Jean Ritchie) 31 Aug 01 - 05:49 PM
Joe Offer 31 Aug 01 - 07:16 PM
kytrad (Jean Ritchie) 01 Sep 01 - 03:31 PM
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Subject: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,hotjoe@earthlink.net
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:36 AM

What are the top 20 folk songs popular during the 50's/60's folk music era?


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Mudcatter
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 02:43 AM

Mmmm, I guess you'll have to define 'folk song' first.

On second thoughts...


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:39 AM

And are you looking for versions of traditional songs that ended up being played on Top 40 radio stations? Such as "The Thing" which was a version of "Farm Servant" or "Gilgarry Mountain" or "Santiano" (which was the flipside of "Michael Rowed the Boat Ashore"), or what?

Whatcha lookin' for? And for what purpose (other than plain curiosity)?

Bat Goddess


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:47 AM

In the UK in the '50s it would be a toss-up between Rock Island Line and Freight Train I guess, in the 60's the UK groups hadn't yet tired of Wild Rover but the influence of the US groups with songs like If I had a Hammer were taking over.
RtS (but then I was listening mostly to jazz and blues so I could possibly be wrong!)


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Pinetop Slim
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:51 AM

Lots of folk songs made the Top 10 or 20 in that era. Some that come to mind are Blowin' in the Wind, Michael Rowed the Boat Ashore, Lemon Tree, Where Have All the Flowers Gone, Tom Dooley, If I Had a Hammer.


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:34 AM

Here are the data for Germany:

I only found the charts from 1960 on:

- Number one folksong in the charts for the 1960s was 'Oh my darling Clementine' which topped the charts for many weeks and was overall No. 2 in 1965 (which was a good year for folk also seeing 'If I had a hammer' in the overall top 10

- also in the top 10 (over the whole year) or at least once No. 1 were La Paloma (1961; old German lyrics), Hohe Tannen (1960), Heidschi Bumbeidschi (1969), Aloahe (1962; new German lyrics, Hawaiian tune), and several others (sometimes only the tune trad.)

- I didn't check all the 70s, but 1970 is hard to beat for folk: overall No. 1 and many weeks in sucession No. 1: El condor pasa, a close No. 2 and many weeks No. 1 'House of the rising sun'

- a special year was 1974, when German president Walter Scheel came in the charts for several weeks in succession with No. 5 being the best position singing the folksong 'Hoch auf dem gelben Wagen'.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 10:42 AM

Does "Dominique" count - running for cover.


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 03:55 PM

How about the theme for 'Z cars'? (Johnny Todd)


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: toadfrog
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 04:49 PM

Well, in the 1950's there were Zena, Zena [sp?], and Wimoweh, and Irene Goodnight, and Freight Train. So Long, It's Been Good to Know You, and This Land is Your Land by Woodie Guthrie are sometimes called folk songs, and were hits in the 50's. "Wreck of the John B" may also be a folk song. If imitation folk songs count, there are Sixteen Tons, and the Battle of New Orleans. Any top ten folk songs from the 50's would be Weavers' songs.

By golly, if "Blowin' in the Wind" is a "folk song," then we should also add, "Why Must I Be a Teenager in Love," a similar song which was also extremely popular in the early 1960's. And how about "Monster Mash?"


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Subject: THE NEWPORT FOLK FESTIVAL SONGBOOK
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 06:30 PM

This gem was sitting in a rack in a tiny music shop we found once on vacation, with the original price of $2.95 still good. In fact, they had a pile of stuff from the late mid and 60's, all with original prices. Not only did they honor the process without our even asking, they gave us a further discount because we bought them all! They just didn't know what they had.

Here is the Table of Contents. I can't find a copyright DATE, but the copy inside indicates mid-60's. And I dunno if these were the "most popular." But they WERE sung in that time, and the artists listed should give you a clue how to find more of the work of that period.

In all cases below, the item is listed acording to who performed it-- who is not necessarily the author.

~S~

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THE NEWPORT FOLK FESTIVAL SONGBOOK
Edited by Jean Ritchie, foreword by Pete Seeger (Alfred Music Co., Inc.)

Ain't Nothin' for a Poor Boy, Frank Proffitt
Almost Done, Alan Lomax
Anna Feher (Anathea), Judy Collins
Barb'rY Ellen, Jean Ritchie
Beryuzoviye Kalyechke, Theodore Bikel
Blackleg Miner, Bob Davenport
Cherry Bal1 Blues, Skip James
Chickens Grow Tall, Glenn Ohrlin
Deep River Blues, Doc Watson
Down the Road, Greenbriar Boys
Drums, Peter La Farge
Freight Train, Elizabeth Cotton
Genesis, Ron Eliran
God Bless the Grass, Malvina Reynolds
Grieve, Oh Grieve, Sam Hinton
I Am a Girl of Constant Sorrow, Sarah Gunning
I'm Bound to Ride, Stanley Brothers
Jack Hagerty, Bill Thatcher
Jimmie Brown, the Newsboy, Mac Wiseman
Johnny Cuckoo, Bessie Jones and the Georgia Sea Island Singers
Keep On Keepin' On, Len Chandler
Kerry Recruit, Luke Kelly
Lassie Wi' the Yellow Coatie, Jean Redpath
Last Mountain of Time, Phipps Family
Links on the Chain, Phil Ochs
Little Boy, Mike Settle
Mary Don't You Weep, Swan Silvertones
Merry Golden Tree, Almeda Riddle
Molly and TenBrooks, Bill Monroe
My Home's Across the Blue Ridge Mountains, Clarence Ashley
My Ramblin' Boy, Tom Paxton
Oh, Death, Dock Boggs
Old Bald Eagle, Hindman Settlement School
Old Blue's Last Hunt, Paul Clayton
Old Crumley, Edna Ritchie
Pretty Little Miss, New Lost City Ramblers
Prodigal Son, Rev. Robert T. Wilkins
Rag Momma, Jim Kweskin and the Jug Band
Rocks and Gravel, Dave Van Ronk
Roll On, John, Ralph Rinzler
See God's Ark A-Movin!, Moving Star Hall Singers
Shhear Them Sheep Even, Joe Patterson
Snow White Shirt, Dewey Shepherd
Soldier, Soldier, Hobart Smith
Southbound Train, Koerner, Ray and Glover
Spike Driver Blues, Mississippi John Hurt
Statesboro Blues, John Hammond
Tennessee Flat Top Box, Johnny Cash
That's All Right, Guy Carawan
Two Soldiers, Mike Seeger
Universal Soldier, Buffy Sainte-Marie
Water is Wide, Clarence Cooper
Which Hat Shall I Wear?, Ronnie Gilbert
Why Adam Sinned, Paul Cadwell
Worried Man Blues, Pete Seeger
You Just Can't Make It by Yourself, Barbara Dane
Young Roddy M'Corley, Clancy Bros. and Tommy Makem



See below for Jean Ritchie Comments


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,iamjohnne
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 06:33 PM

Well how bout the songs of LIghtfoot and Joni Mitchell or the songs Joan Baez and Judy Collins? Or for that matter what about the stuff by Burl Ives. I kinda likt the Chad Mitchell Trio and Brothers Four too. I think if someone was more specific we could give a better answer. Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 06:40 PM

Early stuff would include Burl Ives, Peter, Paul and Mary, what about Nina and Frederik? Skiffle was often folk/blues based-Lonnie Donniegan etc.Trini Lopez, Malvina reynold, Tom Paxton etc .There must be lists for the Uk of the charts, someone out there must have them.


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Podger
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 06:50 PM

if you are including "Blowing in the Wind" then you could make a good case for "Rocking Through the Rye". True folk song hits were few and far between.


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Gareth
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 06:57 PM

Well, it takes me back to my youth. A nice list.
I've a home compilation tape in the car, it includes Pete Seegers rendition of the "Bells of Rhymney" recorded at Newport.(God knows where and when it was compiled, I found it in a boot sale.)

Travelling between Caerphilly and Swansea every working day. I get a tear to my eye playing that through Swansea, Neath, Rhymney, Merthyr Tudvill, and Caerphilly, with occasional diversions via Cardiff, Newport, Blaina, Rhondda and Wye ( Have I missed any ?)

Mind you, and this is something for another thread, the most satisfaction I have had out of a tape in a Car was playing "Captain Sensible's" version of Betjemans Poem "Come Friendly Bombs and fall on Slough" whilst driving through Slough and Maidenhead ( also mentioned in the poem)- whilst diverted off the M4 (Major traffic crunch) after picking up Number 2 Sister from Heathrow.

Have any other Catters had a similar feeling ?

Gareth

Glossary.

Slough - an appalling 1930's expansion of London to the West.

Maidenhead - an equally appalling 1930's middleclass comuter town - full of mock Tudor pretentions

M4 - The Motorway (freeway) between London, Bristol and South Wales.

Heathrow - The main Airport for London,just off the M4


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: iamjohnne
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:32 PM


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: toadfrog
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 09:55 PM

The Weavers recorded lots of hits, many of them folk songs (or like "Kisses Sweeter than Wine," derived from folk songs) in the early 1950's. Then The Weavers got blacklisted. Burl Ives was also around in the 1950's; he can't have been all that popular, for he never got blacklisted. I can recall his records, some of them by heart, but don't recall any of them being popular hits. And at the end of the 1950's, there was Harry Belafonte. "Jamaica Fairwell" had to be a hit.

All the other groups mentioned, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, Kingston Trio, Peter Paul and Mary, and the like were denizens of the 60's.


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Deckman
Date: 30 Aug 01 - 11:35 PM

I can give you the top 100 folk music hits of the fiftes, but then I'd date myself ... right! CHEERS Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 03:51 AM

A certain Mr Donegan was the most successful UK recording artist from the mid '50s until the Beatles came along (c1963?)but not all his hits were "folk".
RtS (but I may have mentioned him before somewhere!)


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Michael in Swansea
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 08:30 AM

What about The Springfields? The UK's answer to PP+M?
Rememer their farewell performance on Sunday Night at the London Palladium, I was 11 it upset me. I liked them.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Bob P
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 10:08 AM

I'd put "Times They Are Achangin' at the head of my list".

Unsure about "top" and "hit", but certainly a signature piece of the times, and one which seems to have survived the folk process.

Bob P


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Marymac90
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 11:39 AM

Toadfrog, thanks for pointing out the difference between 50's and 60's in the US "folk scene".

I remember "Kisses Sweeter than Wine" and "The Auctioneer" were hits on the radio around 1955-58. I had various kids' recordings by Burl Ives, such as "Little White Duck".

The reason often given for Burl Ives escaping the blacklist was that he supposedly talked to the HUAC, and named names. After the HUAC did their dirty work, artists like Pete Seeger, the Weavers, Woody Guthrie, etc, were blacklisted, and folk disappeared from the popular music scene for the rest of the decade. Then when the Kingston Trio and others came on the scene in the early 60's, it was termed the Folk REVIVAL.

Marymac


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: toadfrog
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:04 PM

Bob P. "Times they are . . ." was surely a hit, but it wasn't a folk song. And I doubt you can say a song has "survived the folk process," while the copyright is still in effect and people still sing it out of books. Again, Stephen Foster wrote a lot of signature pieces. And many of those survive. And nobody calls them folk songs. Why is Bob Dylan "folksier" than Stephen Foster? Because he struck folksy poses?


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Ivan
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 01:23 PM

Let me see if I've got this right. The argument seems to go - A song isn't a folk song if some-one wrote it, it's published in a book or it's copyrighted. Sorry guys but I have some bad news for all of you. ALL songs were written by someone. Once a song is written it is automatically copyright of the author. Virtually every "traditional" song is published in a book somewhere. ERGO - ther is no such thing as a folk song!


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Subject: THE NEWPORT FOLK FESTIVAL SONGBOOK
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:49 PM

Information: I was a Newport Folk Festival trustee during most of its run, and in the early sixties, I was asked by Alfred Music Publishing to do this book for them. Other Newport trustees agreed. I asked each performer who'd been a festival participant up to that time, to choose a favorite song that he/she had sung at the Festival. Each of them provided a photograph and a bio, or wrote about his/her life in letters to me (I still have the originals). The book had a short life, as it took the publishers a long time to issue it, had meantime moved their offices to California and the people interested in the Newport Festival had gone. That's life! I'm sure there were very few sold; I have only two of them in my library. Jean Ritchie


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 07:16 PM

In 1968, MacMillan published a hardcover Milt Okun book called Something to Sing About! The Personal Choices of America's Folk Singers. Same idea as Jean's book, but I think the singers Okun surveyed had bigger incomes. My copy is a "book club edition," so I guess that flooded the market, Jean.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 01 Sep 01 - 03:31 PM

Yes, I had a song in Milt's book, Joe, but didn't get rich from the royalties yet!


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Sep 01 - 03:37 PM

Well all I know is, I feel quite lucky to have it. The more I learn, the more I feel that way. Thanks for your work on it, Jean, and for the additional information.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Sep 01 - 03:42 PM

Related threads:

Most significant Folkie of 20th Century?

Who's the 'Best' folk singer you know?

365 'Songs of the Century'

~S~


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: iamjohnne
Date: 01 Sep 01 - 04:34 PM

I am awestruck. Jean Ritchie is here. I had at one time the Newport Festival Songbook, but like so many other things from my youth it has disappeared. I grew to love the music that Jean and all the others made, and I still love it today.

Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,Amos
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 12:12 PM

Does anyone know who sung a folk song about
A British soldier in Ireland who threw himself on
A handgrenade in a train station
Vague I know but it was on a Yorkshire kind
Of folk in th seventies


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: GUEST,regards the previous request
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 12:57 PM

Yes. It was written by Harvey Andrews, who has a website and answers emails! Put him into Google.
Del Brimstone told me thst decades ago, he and Harvey were touring in Ulster, playing for the Forces, riding round in an armoured car. Harvey was horrified when Del poked his head out of it and yelled "Harvey Andrews who wrote "The Soldier" - he's in here!" Could have been tricky...

Susie


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Subject: RE: Top 20 Folk Songs From 50's & 60's
From: Little Robyn
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 02:27 PM

If Jean is still watching this thread, her book made it to NZ and I still have a copy!
Robyn


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