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Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel

GUEST,Walking Eagle 05 Sep 01 - 10:14 AM
Sorcha 05 Sep 01 - 10:31 AM
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GUEST,Walking Eagle 06 Sep 01 - 04:49 PM
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Subject: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 10:14 AM

This past weekend, Doc Watson sang a gospel song titled Stand by Me. I'd like the lyrics and chords and a reference to any CD that the song appears on. I forget the melody so a recording reference would be most helpful as well.

Thanks W.E.


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: Sorcha
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 10:31 AM

The lyrics are at Cyber Hymnal....this page Haven't found a CD yet.


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: masato sakurai
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 12:25 PM

CDs I know are mostly by black gospel singers. Rossetta Tharpe, Marion Williams, Staple Singers, Mavis Staples, Gary Davis, and others. Elvis Presley recorded this song, too. Worth listening to.

Masato


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:49 PM

Thanks Sorcha and Masato. Now we're talking MUSIC. I'll bring in my little tape recorder tomorrow and put it in front of my speakers to get the music. I can figure chord work and dulcimer tab from there. Again, thanks a whole lot.


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:56 PM

Did I submit my message? Just checking.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LORD, STAND BY ME (Rev. Gary Davis)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:59 PM

A song of this title is listed in the African American songbook from the US Episcopal Church, LIFT EVERY VOICE AND SING. (Joe Offer has that one.)

Rev. Gary Davis' "Lord, Stand By Me" is HERE (thanks Masato). I bet it had floating verses, made up in performance each time.

~S~

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

LORD, STAND BY ME
Reverend Gary Davis


Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

'Cause you always have been with me, stand by me
'Cause you always have been with me, stand by me

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Stood by Job when he was [], stand by me
Stood by Job [], stand by me
Stood by John on [], stand by me
Stood by John on []

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Lord, you always been my Father, stand by me
Lord, you always been my Father
Lord, you always been my Mother, stand by me
Lord, you always been my Mother

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never lost a battle
Stand by me

Lord, you always been my lawyer, stand by me
Lord, you always been my lawyer
Lord, you always been my doctor, stand by me
Lord, you always been my doctor

Stand by me
Stand by me
Lord, you never
Stand by me

SOURCE:
©Chandos Music
http://www.revgarydavis.com/standbyme.htmlhttp://www.revgarydavis.com/standbyme.html Transcribed by Frank Basile from the CD, "I Am A True Vine" (Heritage HT CD 07)

SH


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: Marymac90
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 05:17 PM

That Doc Watson sang this just shows the ties Old Timey and white gospel have with blues and black gospel. I was listening to a compilation of old delta blues I've recently acquired, and I could clearly hear in the songs how they could easily be done old timey style.

Marymac


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Subject: Lyr Add: STAND BY ME(Charles A. Tindley)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 05:28 PM

I gotta slow down.

There's the Ben E. King piece by this title too-- "Stand By Me" -- Atco -- 1961.

Tennessee Ernie Ford recorded it too, but which version?

See also a Mudcatter's anecdote HERE.

I have Stand By Me in Songs of Zion, (Verolga Nix) another hymnal from the Methodist church incorporating music of African American churches and experience.

This version's composer is discussed HERE by Dale Rose.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STAND BY ME
Charles A. Tindley

When the storms of life are raging,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When the storms of life are raging,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When the world is tossing me
Like a ship upon the sea
Thou Who rulest wind and water,
Stand by me (stand by me).

In the midst of tribulation,
Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of tribulation,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When the hosts of hell assail,
And my strength begins to fail,
Thou Who never lost a battle,
Stand by me (stand by me).

In the midst of faults and failures,
Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of faults and failures,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When I do the best I can,
And my friends misunderstand,
Thou Who knowest all about me,
Stand by me (stand by me).

In the midst of persecution,
Stand by me (stand by me);
In the midst of persecution,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When my foes in battle array
Undertake to stop my way,
Thou who saved Paul and Silas,
Stand by me (stand by me).

When I'm growing old and feeble,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When I'm growing old and feeble,
Stand by me (stand by me);
When my life becomes a burden,
And I'm nearing chilly Jordan,
O Thou "Lily of the Valley,"
Stand by me (stand by me).

SOURCE:
Songs of Zion, (Verolga Nix).

SH


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: masato sakurai
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 08:33 AM

Excerpt from Bernice Johnson Reagon, "Searching for Tindley," in her edited book, We'll Understand It Better By and By: Pioneering African American Gospel Composers (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1992, p. 45):

A recurring theme in Tindley's songs and sermons is the belief that true change or release from worldly bondage can be attained only through struggle. This theme received wide acceptance within the Black oral tradition. In his sermon "The Furnace of Affliction," Tindley urged his listeners to go willingly through the furnace in order to find a space free of the heat, to find the highest grade of gold and silver within the human spirit: "I welcome this morning, all the persecutions, unkindnesses, hard sayings and whatever God allows to come upon me. I welcome the hottest fire of trials if it is needed for my purification. Oh, the things that we have in our lives that can never go in heaven are more numerous than we are apt to think. They must all be taken out before we leave this world. God's way to get them out may be the way of the furnace" (Tindley 1932). Several of his songs use the image of going through life as a storm. In each there is both the withstanding of the storm and the promise of the other side.[Reagon quotes after this passage "Stand by Me" (1916) and "The Storm Is Passing Over, Hallelujah" (1916)]

Masato


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 09:31 AM

Thanks to all of you for your help. Sorchas' blicky came with the melody that I heard.

On the white Appalachian/African American cross over theme, this can also be seen in the playing style of old time master fiddler, Tommy Jarrell. Notice how he moves his bow arm and body when he plays. Not 'all cammed ( calmed) up ' like my like my grampa used to say. He ( TJ ) moves with the rythym of flat land African American fiddlers.


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 09:37 AM

Walking Eagle, I think the words posted here have a verse Cyberhymnnal missed.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 09:48 AM

I think that all this music cross over may dispel part of the myth that poor whites and poor southern blacks had nothing to do with each other. My fiddlin' grandpa (Cherokee) recalls playing with African Americans, poor white Georgians, and poor Italian and Irish immigrants in the same band! He also recalls running the Klan out of a WV county with the same group of men! The Klan was told to clear out of coal mining territory and not come back!


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 12:28 PM

Yes, I was at a racism/classism workshop, and this was discussed from the viewpoint of the blue-collar workers' experience. There were a lot of close friends in the south, across the "barriers," and the racism was played up by mill owners to avoid union solidarity.

I can see how music and shared hard times may well have been some of the key ingredients in the glue that was stronger than the pull of racism. And it is one reason I insist that real people relating on real things tend to step past "barriers" just as quick as they can find a way to do it. *G*

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 03:18 PM

I know this is getting a bit far from the thread, but I'm reading some mighty good thoughts from us 'catters, especially since we're all a bunch of racists, (@;->),( according to a recent thread ).


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 03:49 PM

Uh oh, now I'm laffin! Gonna be trubble! *G*

Hey Walking Eagle. Stand by ME, I'll stand by YOU. Shoulder to shoulder, that's my way.

~Susan


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Subject: ADD: I'M A-GOING TO DO ALL I CAN
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 12:04 PM

I thought this melody sounded familiar. I wish I had a sound clip to play for you-- I suspect that Tindley's inspiration for the tune must have been a negro spiritual that preceded it, called "I'm A-Going To Do All I Can."

This would be a call-response form, and done with floating verses.

~Susan



I'M A-GOING TO DO ALL I CAN

Traditional Spiritual

LEADER: I'm a-going to do all I can for my Lord,
PEOPLE: For my Lord.
LEADER: I'm a-going to do all I can for my Lord,
PEOPLE: For my Lord.
LEADER: I'm a-going to do all I can
'Til I can't do no more,
I'm a-going to do all I can for my Lord,
PEOPLE: For my Lord.

Other verses:
I'm a-going to pray all I can for my Lord…
I'm a-going to bear all I can for my Lord…
I'm a-going to sing all I can for my Lord…

SOURCE:
American Negro Songs, 230 Folk Songs and Spirituals, Religious and Secular. John W. Work, Dover Publications, Mineola, NY 1998. Orig. pub. Crown Publishers, NY, 1940. ISBN 0-486-40271-1.

SH

E-mailing tune to Joe Offer for inclusion in Mudcat MIDI pages (see QUICKLINKS).


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 08 Sep 01 - 06:32 PM

For the record, the Ben E King song is credited to Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller as well as King. It's quite a song. Some 200 cover versions to date and rising. It also inspired a magnificent soundtrack - and provided the title - when Rob Reiner made a film based on Stephen King's short story, The Body.


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Subject: Stand by Me
From: GUEST,Bill@whowarth.fsnet.co.uk
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:15 PM

Does anyone out there have the words to Stand by Me composed by the Rev Charles Albert Tindley and recorded by Sister Clara Hudmon in 1930 (I have the reissued recording, which is fantastic, but have difficulty in making out the words)

Any help on this will be much appreciated

thanks

Bill


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stand by Me
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:18 PM

Stand by Me at Cyber Hynmal.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stand by Me
From: masato sakurai
Date: 30 Jan 02 - 06:39 PM

Posted and discussed HERE.
~Masato


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Subject: RE: Ly/Chds Req. Stand by Me-Gospel
From: GUEST,Rev. mike
Date: 23 Feb 12 - 11:07 AM

Does anyone have the chords for "Stand By Me" by Rev. Dan Smith?

God bless you all.


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