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Desert Dancer 05 Sep 01 - 01:43 PM
GUEST,Willa 05 Sep 01 - 02:09 PM
Stewie 05 Sep 01 - 08:39 PM
Anglo 05 Sep 01 - 09:18 PM
Desert Dancer 06 Sep 01 - 12:55 AM
GUEST,Willa 06 Sep 01 - 04:20 PM
Joe Offer 26 Sep 08 - 05:51 PM
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Subject: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 01:43 PM

The tune to All Things Are Quite Silent is in the DT here from the Penguin Book of English Folk Songs, as collected by Ralph Vaughan Williams from Ted Baines, Lower Beeding, Sussex, in 1904. This is a very simple (nearly boring) tune, in an AABA form. However, most of the available recordings (Louis Killen, Shirley Collins, Maddy Prior/Steeleye Span) use a slightly different and more complex (more interesting!) tune in the form ABCA (abc below). Anyone have a clue as to the origin of that tune? Bert Lloyd?? UK folk, dig thru your vinyl, if you would.

T:ALL THINGS ARE QUITE SILENT %Tune name
Q:1/4=120 %Tempo
V:1 %
K:C
M:3/4 %Meter
z4 DE |F3 E D2 |G2 A2 B2 |G2 AG E2 |
D4 DE |F2 E2 D2 |(3:2:1A(3:2:1B(3:2:1c d2 B2 |G2 A2 B2 |
A4 AA |d2 c2 B2 |c2 B2 A2 |B2 A2 G2 |
c3 z AG |F3 E D2 |G2 A2 B2 |G2 AG E2 |
D4 z2 |]
%End of file
(hope this abc works)

~ Becky in Tucson

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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 02:09 PM

We sang this (arranged in 3 parts by Sarah Morgan) at the harmony workshop at Whitby last week. Haven't time to check your abc tonight, as I going out to the local folk club. You may get a response from some of the others who were at Whitby.


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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: Stewie
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 08:39 PM

Neither Killen, in sleevenotes to 'Ballads & Broadsides' (Topic 12T126), nor Collins, in sleevenotes to 'Sweet Primeroses' (Topic 12T170), gives any indication apart from their source for the song being 'Penguin Book of English Folk Songs'.

--Stewie.


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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: Anglo
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 09:18 PM

Killen improved it (long, long ago). I brought up the discrepancy to him at a folk festival a while ago and he admitted it.


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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 12:55 AM

Joe, that tune's the same as the one in the DT and I assumed that post was its source.

Thanks, Anglo. It's nice to get the word from the horse's mouth, for once, as opposed to cumulative speculation and rumor. (On the Mudcat???) Welcome back.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:20 PM

You might like to listen to the version by Greensward (CD Sage's Ring) on mp3.com


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Subject: RE: Help: All Things Are Quite Silent
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 05:51 PM

Gee, there's not much on this song in the Traditional Ballad Index. Is there only one version of this song, only the Penguin version, collected by Ralph Vaughan Williams from singer Ted Baines in 1904?
-Joe-
Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry:

All Things Are Quite Silent

DESCRIPTION: The singer's lover is taken from their bed by a pressgang; she begs them to spare him but they refuse. She laments, remembering the joys of their life together, but says she will not be downcast, as someday he may return.
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1904
KEYWORDS: love separation lament sailor pressgang
FOUND IN: Britain(England(South))
REFERENCES (2 citations):
Vaughan Williams/Lloyd, p. 13, "All Things Are Quite Silent" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT, THNGSLNT*

Roud #2532
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "The Lowlands of Holland" (theme)
NOTES: "...by [1835] the system of impressment had almost faded out, although it was never actually abolished by Act of Parliament." -- A. L. Lloyd
Lloyd reports this as the only known version of the song. - PJS
File: VWL013

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Roud has eight entries as of this date, but most come from Vaughan Williams/Baines. Some broadsides I haven't found yet, with the title "The Compulsion." I haven't been able to find it at Bodleian Ballads, but I'm not very adept at searching there.
-Joe-


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