World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Sep 21 - 01:06 AM

It's twenty years, so I think I'll bring this thread back in sight. But I'm going to close it and ask you to leave this thread intact and post on one of the crosslinked threads.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:57 AM

X-Ed, shut the fuck up.

Posters -- Please go to Part Two for new posts.

A.

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Thanks
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• World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
• AMERICAN ATTACKS--PART TWO
• AMERICAN ATTACKS---PART THREE
• AMERICAN ATTACKS- - -PART FOUR
• AMERICAN ATTACKS- - - PART FIVE
• AMERICAN ATTACKS**SIX -about enough huh?
• AMERICAN ATTACKS**PART SEVEN..thoughts
• AMERICAN ATTACKS=PART EIGHT.more still
• AMERICAN ATTACKS**Part 9,one week later
• AMERICAN ATTACKS*PART TEN-&the future is
• AMERICAN ATTACKS**PART ELEVEN: Long Haul
• American Attacks**Part Fifty - Got him!
• American Attacks**Part Twelve: Steady On
• American Attacks:Thirteen and Lucky?

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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Bardford
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:56 AM

Canadian Foreign Affairs has set up a number for Canadians with family in New York.:
1-800-387-3124

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,X-Ed
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:55 AM

Main squeeze of guinnesschik! You sad excuses of America need to go join the the holy war for the ragheads! There is a time for vengence. Now. Think of the brave firemen of NY, swepted up in middleeast bullshit. Think those fuckers care about them. NUK'EM TO THE STONE AGE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:53 AM

I'm just above the U.S. border, here in Toronto. All the TV, all the radio, all our thoughts and prayers are with you, our friends so close. So far as I know, Canada is taking flights for landing. One of my Mudcat friends here told me that his workplace here in Toronto has shut down and the board is having an emergency meeting. We wonder what our children in school know yet. Many here have friends and relatives in the attacked zones.

We send our love and support,

~black walnut

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:50 AM

I'm checking in and praying and so grateful for a place to come and cry and pray- we aren't telling the kids at school, so we are unable to do more than look at each other until we can rush to the office or the teachers room- and home, as soon as possible.
May God have mercy on us all.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:49 AM

Osama Bin Laden announced three weeks ago that his people would launch an unprecedented attack against the United States. The rationale was retribution for the US' support of Israel.

This certainly qualifies.

It also answers Mick's question about what could drive people to so desperate a measure.

Our whole team has been told they may go home from the research base where i work if they are uncomfortable there; although I wasn't particularly uncomfortable, my BBW's concerns prevailed.

I am sorry to say that I believe an act of war, and a second day of infamy, is with us this morning. The body count may well match Pearl Harbor's, I have heard.

I cannot imagine what the scenario Bin laden's plannersa could have had in mind would be in terms of benefit to their people or their concerns. If this analysis of the source of these attacks is concerned, Bin laden himself will be buried in a bunker before a year is out. His people will not benefit and may in fact support grievous harm because of his psychotic and juvenile actions.

I am clearly making assumptions here, with very skimpy real data. It is a possible interpretation only.

Stay well, friends, stay brave, and for god's sake stay awake and rational. Striking blindly will be worse than not striking at all. This may be war, or it may not be; it is not chaos.

Amos

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:49 AM

Casualties from Pittsburgh area plane crash = 164.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:48 AM

Re mobile phones : Apparantly there is a facility whereby the networks can be closed down (closing any existing connections) and then re-opened to specified user groups only. Emergency workers, govt officials etc have priority user groups - and will be able to make and recieve calls (ordinary bods are something like group 6). This is probably what you mean.
As to UK : As far as I can make out all airports have been closed until further notice, Canary Wharf, the City square mile and Houses of Parliament &tc are being evacuated. All planes which left Britain & were able to turn back have been turned back & will return to Britain.
Apparantly there are still two planes lost & out of contact from United Airlines - but obviously everything is very confused & that may be a reference to planes already down.
Feeling terrible for everyone - especially our NY catters.
Kris

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:47 AM

That's it from me for now... no fam in areas affected so I am signing off to clear the Netways of unnecessary traffic and be with family here.

Please, everyone, find someone nearby to hang onto, and don't let this numb you down completely. And breathe real, REAL deep.

~Susan

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:46 AM

Please move your caring thoughts to this

NEW THREAD

...AMERICAN ATTACKS-PART TWO

Spaw

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:45 AM

Please post to Part Two

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:43 AM

Watching in horror.

~black walnut

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:43 AM

Thay are saying two of the planes involved originated in Boston from Logan airport.

~S~

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:42 AM

Thanks, Susan, Dai and John.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:41 AM

Words fail me.

How can any 'cause' justify such means?

Total disregard for human life.

It's frightening to realise that this could even be the start of World War III...

My prayers and sympathy go out to all the victims... and the perpetrators...

How could any human being be so sick?

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:40 AM

I believe Canadian airports have closed as well.

~S~

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:39 AM

FROM THE RED CROSS SITE

Red Cross has activated its Aviation Incident Response (AIR) Team to respond in New York City, and trained disaster workers from the American Red Cross of Greater New York and the National Capitol Chapter in Washington, D.C. are providing relief in the affected areas.

80,000 blood donations in the American Red Cross blood inventory are ready to ship to affected areas and will ensure that patients' lives are saved. Donors who wish to give blood in the coming days to replenish the nation's blood supply are encouraged to call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE to make an appointment.

In the wake of these traumatic events lies a wide path of catastrophic physical and psychological destruction in which countless victims will require assistance. In addition to meeting the physical needs of the affected regions, the American Red Cross will be providing crisis mental health counseling.

The Red Cross AIR Team has been activated and is responding in New York City and Boston, where one of the flights that struck the World Trade Center originated. Made up of leadership teams from all Red Cross disaster relief functions, the AIR Team responds when activated through the Aviation Disaster Family Assistance Act of 1996. This act charged the National Transportation Safety Board with designating an organization to provide for the emotional needs of victims, family members and rescue workers. NTSB selected the American Red Cross because of our nationally recognized mental health counseling program.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:36 AM

Apparently all planes to/from USA have been grounded.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:35 AM

British Airways has suspended all flights to the US 'until further notice'

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:34 AM

ARC blood collection services are generally separate from disaster response at the larger metro areas and wherever there is a Red Cross blood collection facility. Local chapters may or may not be involved in disaster work and may or may not be able to deal with inquiries about donating blood. The number to call is 1-800-GIVE LIFE, to find out where to donate near you.

~Susan

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:33 AM

United Airlines just confirmed that one of the planes was a Boeing of theirs; they also have another big one missing.

'Catters in the UK and Europe, are your governments closing air traffic, too? Concerned for anyone in a Western country.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:31 AM

The UK number for people concerned about friends/relatives is 0207 008 0000

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:31 AM

Other than donating blood what can those of us far away do? I did contact the ARC, but I'm sure they are inundated. May be a while before they respond.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

I'm at work at a government contractor just outside the Beltway. Everyone here is in absolute shock. Listening to radios, trying to find information on the net, talking about friends and relatives in NY and the Pentagon. From the window I can see what may be smoke from the Pentagon. Some local schools are shutting early. The federal government is shutting down.

This is just awful. Universities are announcing closings as well.

jeffp

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

Two of the aircrafts were American Airlines, one with 81 passengers; one with 58, plus flight attendants and pilots.

Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

Colleague reports that mobile phone networks have been commandeered. Any confirmation? 'Several' aircraft are unaccounted for. CAP is up over east coast.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:26 AM

All bridges and tunnels in NYC closed.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:25 AM

Apparently another plane has gone out of contact, besides the PA crash.

In case Net traffic clogs www and ragtime, there is a thread open in the Help forum for reports in from NYC-ers and others affected.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:23 AM

The thread of NYC Catters is refreshed so you can see who we have there.

The prayer chain is humming.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:21 AM

Praying.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:20 AM

I just hope the backlash is not as horrifying.....jesus...

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Greyeyes
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:13 AM

Thoughts with all in the US, please keep posting, no radio or TV at work.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:09 AM

My thoughts are with everone too. Like Steve Parkes, I am shocked at the moments.

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Steve Parkes
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:04 AM

I don't now what to say, I'm so shocked. We're thinking of you, if it's any comfort. Love and hope form Sue & Steve.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:01 AM

Report of car-bomb at State Department is now being denied.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM

I'd be glad to do "THE WORK", Mick. Oh, I just had a thought.. my nephew is in the Airforce. Oh No!!

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:59 AM

Plane crashed into Camp David.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:57 AM

Mixed thoughts............so very hard not to want to take them "out" whoever they are..........

The scrambled Air Force fighters.........Talk about the greatest good for the greatest number........If they DO encounter an obvious airliner on a terrorist mission....how many innocents on board? And you now have to shoot it down to prevent further loss of life......

Sinsull? Larry? Please be okay........Again Anna, we love you and we all understand the emotions you feel.....much love to you and again..Be Safe.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:56 AM

And yes........we must hunt these people down........and woe to anyone that should make the mistake of stopping us...............but when it is done, I pray that we enter into reflection of what the rest of the world faces........about what we, as citizens of the United States, look like and represent to the peoples around the world who are suffering..........but, first we must be about the dirty work. There will be many more martyrs, in addition to the ones made this morning..........

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:55 AM

I had just gotten up....and saw the smoke and dust all over manhattan on the tube....and now I can't seem to stop the tears...jesus...

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:52 AM

Large airliner – perhaps a 747 – crashed in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. The report said the location was 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, PA.

Sears Tower in Chicago evacuated. Military bases in Alaska on alert.

I'm extremely angry that so many terrorists could have gotten onto planes today and taken them over. So much for airport security.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: mooman
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:50 AM

Dear US Colleagues,

Our deepest thoughts for you and condolences to those affected by these horrific and unspeakable acts.

mooman

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:49 AM

And I love you, as well. But the voice of reason is needed now more than at any other time. Only those that know the horror that is being faced and will be faced, will know from whence I speak. The "pulverize 'em" view usually comes from those that haven't had to do the work. Today we are forced down a path that will visit enough tragedy on this world that will make the one we are witnessing seem as only an opening gambit...........I am afraid, Anna my dear friend, because I have seen this before.............and I know what is coming.........and I am crying at the thought of it, and for those already dead................fucking insanity.........

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:47 AM

Anticipation of 2nd hijacked aircraft heading toward Pentagon. Fighter jet(s) in the air.

All federal office buildings in DC have been evacuated.

All aircraft flights into DC and NYC diverted to Canadian airports.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:46 AM

Unbelievable. You have said most of what I am feeling. All of it. Thanks for this forum.

Art

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:44 AM

Big Mick I understand the conflict. Its difficult outside your country to say that I want to know why without sounding callous. I'm not callous, I'm shocked and crying for all the people hurt in this, but I still want to know WHY to try and prevent any further disater.

I guess this may give Bush a chance to show what kind of leadership he and his advisors are capable of. Congratulations to the airports for closing down as quickly as they did to stop possible other suicide flights.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:44 AM

757 reported crashed in South Eastern Pensylvania.
Not sure whether this is a targetted crash - or whether this is the one that was on the way to Washington.
God keep you all safe.

Kris

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: kendall
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:42 AM

Makes you wonder why the powers that be did away with the "Sky Pigs". Those Marshalls might have been able to stop the hijacking.

I must say, I'm not surprised that this happened.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:42 AM

Mick, you know how much I love you... Now is NOT the time for a voice of reason. Maybe later!!

Clobber the son of a bitches!! Sodem and Gamorra all the way, Baby!!!

No love here only anger..Annamill

I had friends in those buildings!!

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:41 AM

All the reports are coming in so fast and it's hard to tell yet what has happened, but my thoughts are for all these souls..........

It also appears a collapse of some sort has happened at the Pentagon......There are also reports of an aircraft (possibly a 747) down somewhwere in Pennsylvania....

ANNA my dear.....So great to hear from you........Be safe!!!

Anxious thoughts for Sinsull and Larry..........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:40 AM

Where IS Sinsull? Mary, check in. Please be at home!

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:39 AM

Confirmed crash of a plane near Pitsbugh PA, related? One would fear.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:38 AM

These incidents certainly put our piddling little Mudcat "flamer" problems into perspective.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:37 AM

Please.......I am so conflicted.........I am so angry that I want to hunt these bastards down myself and commit unspeakable acts on them............but the side of me that has taken seen that type of carnage also wants to know what precipitated this attack.........what horrors were faced by these people and their families that set them on this maniacal path.........but they must pay......so many confusing thoughts.........

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:37 AM

I just got through to Sinsull's answering machine and left her a message. I was surprised to get through.

I can't stop crying. Annadarlin', stay safe.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:37 AM

I'm scared... There is noway to explain in type this feeling..

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,sledge
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:37 AM

Words are inadequate, everyone over the otherside of the pond is in my thoughts. You all stay safe.

Stuart

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:35 AM

Car bomb at State confirmed. O gods.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: bill\sables
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:32 AM

I am still watching on TV I am stunned Annamill is OK I see, What about Sinsil and InOBU Easyrider etcetc. Please let us know that you are safe. This is horific news indeed
Bill

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:32 AM

Just had a woman on who said she watched people jumping out of the windows. That was just before the 2nd tower fell. She said they're being told to evacuate the area, but there's no where to go, and no way to get out.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:31 AM

BBC radio (UK) reports another hijacked plane heading for Washington.

Kris

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:30 AM

All International Flights are being diverted to Canada. I hope they all land safely without surprises.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Crazy Eddie
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:29 AM

Don.t know what to say, but I'd like to second what Big Mick said.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:29 AM

Second tower collapsed, reorts of another hijacked plane in th DC area un confirmed, state department car bomb unconfirmed

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:28 AM

World Trade Center in Denver has closed for the day. North Tower in NYC just collapesed..............I'm shaking so hard I can hardly type.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:28 AM

The North tower just went.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:28 AM

Anna...........My prayers are with you, my friend. Nothing to indicate that midtown to uptown have anything to fear. The entire

OHmigod, the second tower just collapsed.....

The entire air traffic system has been grounded. Lay low, and stay safe.

Both towers have now collapsed.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:27 AM

North Tower of the World Trade Center has just collapsed.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:27 AM

The second tower has absolutely collapsed.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: guinnesschik
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:25 AM

Car bomb has exploded outside the state dept.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:25 AM

A car bomb has just exploded outside the State Dept.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:24 AM

Car bomb has just exploded outside the State Department in Washington, D.C.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: English Jon
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:23 AM

!!!!!!!!!!

Saw this on T.V. in town just now. This is appalling.

Deep sympathies to all in the U.S.

EJ

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: guinnesschik
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:22 AM

Annamill: be safe.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:22 AM

Watching the reports on a little black-and-white TV in the office. Smoke all over Manhattan, apparently. Ash in the streets as if a volcano had erupted. Reports that a terrorist had called in (where?) to say there were 5 targets planned. New York Stock Exchange trading suspended.

Part of the Pentagon has just collapsed. West wing of the White House has been evacuated.

Please send prayers, good thoughts, whatever you've got, to everyone involved in these incidents as well as rescue and medical personnel working to save lives.... as well as this nation... as well as the world.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:22 AM

I am numb. I have watched this whole thing live. Today, I fear, marks the beginning of something I have prayed never to have to see again. Comments like "make a crater" which is understandable, will only lend fuel to a terrible fire. Listen people, take time...........pray with all your might. War is a terrible evil. But today the first shots have been fired. Make a crater, and you make a nest which will incubate the eggs of a very long conflict, a very long tragedy. We must respond, we must hunt down, in a very surgical way, those responsible. But we must also, if we are wise, determine what would cause a people to be so desperate as to take this step. What are the conditions that caused a people, whomever they are, to take a step which will surely lead to their destruction. If we only react with anger we are doomed to see the children, all of our children, lead down a very sad path. I have seen it before, even participated in it. Please God, guide us now.

I can feel the cries of the lost in the very depths of my soul. What a terrible ache

I am very afraid for what is coming.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:22 AM

Holy shit. Midnight in Oz and I'm just about to go to bed after watching a football show on the TV. An urgent cross to the US and I behold a disaster. Both places I've been to. A couple of years ago I was on the observation floor of the World Trade Centre - bloody hell I'm shivering.

The poor souls in the planes and buildings, my heart goes out to you all.

JG / F.M.E.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:18 AM

I'm here and I'm scared. The South Tower has fallen!! All those people!! I'm uptown and so far out of the disaster. Where concerned about other planes (there were three) and possible bombs!

We're totally cut off. All we have is this and maybe e-mail. No phones, no way out.

All those people!!

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:18 AM

LEader Of Democratic Front Refutes claim

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:17 AM

Phone lines are going down in some places. CBC has turned to another news station for news as they can't get through. It may be awhile before we hear of local Mudcatters.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:16 AM

"The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine" reported to have claimed responsibility.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:16 AM

My radio says one of the Trade Center planes was an American Airlines 757 that was hijacked from Boston.

Our base has just gone into the highest state of alert. The base is effectively closed. We are removing all visitors and contractors. Our long distance telephones have been cut off.

Scary stuff. My girlfriend called to check on me. She works for a media firm in Portland and is up to date on what is happening.

They are talking now to a woman who is one block to the east of the Trade Center. Her apartment is full of smoke and she cannot get out because of debris in the street.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:14 AM

I double the request for immediate news and thank the posters.

We have almost non-existant TV where we live (and work) -- without cable, and since I haven't watched TV since 1983, we have no TV cable. All the news websites I've tried are totally jammed and where I have been able to access, the site lags radio news. So my news right now is Mudcat and the radio.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: guinnesschik
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:10 AM

There's been (another?) explosion at the capitol.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Homeless
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:09 AM

Does anyone know how any of our NYC 'catters are doing?

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:08 AM

May cool heads prevail in our government. This is terrible.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:07 AM

Christ, One of the towers has fallen down. I'm listening to CBC news. They're worried that the second one will come down too.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:06 AM

The second tower has indeed collapsed......at leastthe 50 or 60 upper floors are gone.............There are reports of as many as 8 aircraft hijacked.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:06 AM

All three planes were hijacked, two from Boston.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:05 AM

InOBU, Sins? Are you okay? How about our people near Washington DC, too?

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:03 AM

Please keep the reports coming...I'm at work, no TV, all the news sites on the 'net are jammed.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:02 AM

I am appalled at what has happened. I'm thinking about all the people caught and trapped.

and guinnesschik, fuck you for the "make a crater out of their country". Revenge on the innocent has no place in dealing with terrorism.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:02 AM

Really really shocked. So sorry for everyone immediately concerned.
Kris

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:01 AM

Radio says one tower is down

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:01 AM

They just said one of the Trade Towers just totally collasped. The entire building. Oh, my g-d, those poor people.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: guinnesschik
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:58 AM

Is anybody as angry about this as I am? Our nation's capital has been compromised. Our nation's SECURITY has been compromised. I say we find out who did it, and (to quote a dear friend) make a crater out of their country.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:55 AM

The thing is, they don't HAVE to live with themselves...it looks like a suicide bombing...

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:50 AM

Damn.........All of these people............

Now there has seemed to an attack on the Pentagon....a helicopter crash, possibly intentional..........Reports also of a fire on the mall in DC.........Whitehouse has beem evacuated.......ALL airports have been closed across the entire United States.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:49 AM

apparently a jumbo has gone AWOL as well - according ot ananova as above

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Patrish
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:46 AM

Don't know what to say, so sorry, wishing for the beat possible outcome. Some people are complete bast***s, how anyone can live with themselves after participating in such a dreadful act - I can't understand at all - whats going on? patrish

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Alice
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:43 AM

Watching the huge plume of smoke from the heliport area of the Pentagon now.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:40 AM

Praying for these poor innocents

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:40 AM

The timing! they waited 20 minutes after the first plane to make sure the media had full attention on the Towers and then the second plane hits. Very well planned.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Dave (the ancient mariner at work)
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:40 AM

Such callous disregard for human life is the signature of terrorist ideology; totally beyond the comprehension of a civilized society. Praying for the victims, families and the emergency crews involved. Yours, Aye. Dave

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Alice
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:38 AM

Report of an explosion at the Pentagon, now. No smoke, but the building shook, and security evacuating the White House, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:33 AM

Just heard that the first plane was allegedly a 767 that had taken off from Boston........The second plane looked on the replays to be similar in appearance....Size is hard to determine....767---737??? They're different sizes but have similar shapes.....wing mounted engines well droppes and a largish tailplane surface........My first thought on seeing the second was a 737...

Terrible situation for the rescue people.....both are over 60 floors up........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Alice
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:32 AM

One high jacked American Airlines plane, so there were passengers/hostages on board that one. Flight 11, after leaving Boston and originally headed for LA, taken over and flown into the tower.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:32 AM

Pray lots of people were late for work the timing was first plane just before 9 the second shortly after. THe planes were aparently hijacked, how many people on the planes?

Subject: World Trade Center Attacked by Air
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:28 AM

Copied from duplicate thread.
-Joe Offer-

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Subject: WOrld Trade Center Attacked by Air
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 11-Sep-01 - 09:18 AM

I heard that a plane flew into the North Tower, I turned on the TV and watched as a second plane flew into the second tower. Pray for these pople. THis is no joke Nick

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Subject: RE: WOrld Trade Center Attacked by Air
From: GUEST,PAH
Date: 11-Sep-01 - 09:24 AM

There was also news of a hijacking around the same time. This is horrible, doesn't seem like two planes, one in each tower could be an accident.

PAH

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Subject: RE: WOrld Trade Center Attacked by Air
From: Alice
Date: 11-Sep-01 - 09:24 AM

The offices had to be occupied at this hour. So many people in that smoke and flame.

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:25 AM

Sure is already beginning to look like terrorist attacks.............How many trapped? I wonder if the South Tower was evacuated after the North Tower was hit?

Car bombs are something, but this is something else! How many dead already?

geeziz.........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:18 AM

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_395669.html?menu=

Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Alice
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:17 AM

Yes, I was watching when the video came on right after the first impact, and then the second plane hitting while the camera was running.

Alice

Subject: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 09:06 AM

Anybody else watching this? Sinsull....Where are you? This is simply an unbelievable disaster and not much is known yet. Suspicion that it was hit by a plane and now there is a second picture....LIVE...of a second plane actually hitting the OTHER tower.......Terrorists?

Simply unreal..........

Spaw

Refreshed only for anniversary purposes. This was the first thread started almost to the minute, 7 years ago.