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World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster

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Amos 11 Sep 01 - 11:57 AM
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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:57 AM

X-Ed, shut the fuck up.

Posters -- Please go to Part Two for new posts.

A.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Bardford
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:56 AM

Canadian Foreign Affairs has set up a number for Canadians with family in New York.:
1-800-387-3124


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,X-Ed
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:55 AM

Main squeeze of guinnesschik! You sad excuses of America need to go join the the holy war for the ragheads! There is a time for vengence. Now. Think of the brave firemen of NY, swepted up in middleeast bullshit. Think those fuckers care about them. NUK'EM TO THE STONE AGE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:53 AM

I'm just above the U.S. border, here in Toronto. All the TV, all the radio, all our thoughts and prayers are with you, our friends so close. So far as I know, Canada is taking flights for landing. One of my Mudcat friends here told me that his workplace here in Toronto has shut down and the board is having an emergency meeting. We wonder what our children in school know yet. Many here have friends and relatives in the attacked zones.

We send our love and support,

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:50 AM

I'm checking in and praying and so grateful for a place to come and cry and pray- we aren't telling the kids at school, so we are unable to do more than look at each other until we can rush to the office or the teachers room- and home, as soon as possible.
May God have mercy on us all.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amos
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:49 AM

Osama Bin Laden announced three weeks ago that his people would launch an unprecedented attack against the United States. The rationale was retribution for the US' support of Israel.

This certainly qualifies.

It also answers Mick's question about what could drive people to so desperate a measure.

Our whole team has been told they may go home from the research base where i work if they are uncomfortable there; although I wasn't particularly uncomfortable, my BBW's concerns prevailed.

I am sorry to say that I believe an act of war, and a second day of infamy, is with us this morning. The body count may well match Pearl Harbor's, I have heard.

I cannot imagine what the scenario Bin laden's plannersa could have had in mind would be in terms of benefit to their people or their concerns. If this analysis of the source of these attacks is concerned, Bin laden himself will be buried in a bunker before a year is out. His people will not benefit and may in fact support grievous harm because of his psychotic and juvenile actions.

I am clearly making assumptions here, with very skimpy real data. It is a possible interpretation only.

Stay well, friends, stay brave, and for god's sake stay awake and rational. Striking blindly will be worse than not striking at all. This may be war, or it may not be; it is not chaos.

Amos


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:49 AM

Casualties from Pittsburgh area plane crash = 164.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:48 AM

Re mobile phones : Apparantly there is a facility whereby the networks can be closed down (closing any existing connections) and then re-opened to specified user groups only. Emergency workers, govt officials etc have priority user groups - and will be able to make and recieve calls (ordinary bods are something like group 6). This is probably what you mean.
As to UK : As far as I can make out all airports have been closed until further notice, Canary Wharf, the City square mile and Houses of Parliament &tc are being evacuated. All planes which left Britain & were able to turn back have been turned back & will return to Britain.
Apparantly there are still two planes lost & out of contact from United Airlines - but obviously everything is very confused & that may be a reference to planes already down.
Feeling terrible for everyone - especially our NY catters.
Kris


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:47 AM

That's it from me for now... no fam in areas affected so I am signing off to clear the Netways of unnecessary traffic and be with family here.

Please, everyone, find someone nearby to hang onto, and don't let this numb you down completely. And breathe real, REAL deep.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:46 AM

Please move your caring thoughts to this

NEW THREAD

...AMERICAN ATTACKS-PART TWO

Spaw


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:45 AM

Please post to Part Two


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:43 AM

Watching in horror.

~black walnut


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:43 AM

Thay are saying two of the planes involved originated in Boston from Logan airport.

~S~


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:42 AM

Thanks, Susan, Dai and John.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Bernard
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:41 AM

Words fail me.

How can any 'cause' justify such means?

Total disregard for human life.

It's frightening to realise that this could even be the start of World War III...

My prayers and sympathy go out to all the victims... and the perpetrators...

How could any human being be so sick?


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:40 AM

I believe Canadian airports have closed as well.

~S~


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:39 AM

FROM THE RED CROSS SITE

Red Cross has activated its Aviation Incident Response (AIR) Team to respond in New York City, and trained disaster workers from the American Red Cross of Greater New York and the National Capitol Chapter in Washington, D.C. are providing relief in the affected areas.

80,000 blood donations in the American Red Cross blood inventory are ready to ship to affected areas and will ensure that patients' lives are saved. Donors who wish to give blood in the coming days to replenish the nation's blood supply are encouraged to call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE to make an appointment.

In the wake of these traumatic events lies a wide path of catastrophic physical and psychological destruction in which countless victims will require assistance. In addition to meeting the physical needs of the affected regions, the American Red Cross will be providing crisis mental health counseling.

The Red Cross AIR Team has been activated and is responding in New York City and Boston, where one of the flights that struck the World Trade Center originated. Made up of leadership teams from all Red Cross disaster relief functions, the AIR Team responds when activated through the Aviation Disaster Family Assistance Act of 1996. This act charged the National Transportation Safety Board with designating an organization to provide for the emotional needs of victims, family members and rescue workers. NTSB selected the American Red Cross because of our nationally recognized mental health counseling program.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:36 AM

Apparently all planes to/from USA have been grounded.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:35 AM

British Airways has suspended all flights to the US 'until further notice'


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:34 AM

ARC blood collection services are generally separate from disaster response at the larger metro areas and wherever there is a Red Cross blood collection facility. Local chapters may or may not be involved in disaster work and may or may not be able to deal with inquiries about donating blood. The number to call is 1-800-GIVE LIFE, to find out where to donate near you.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:33 AM

United Airlines just confirmed that one of the planes was a Boeing of theirs; they also have another big one missing.

'Catters in the UK and Europe, are your governments closing air traffic, too? Concerned for anyone in a Western country.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:31 AM

The UK number for people concerned about friends/relatives is 0207 008 0000


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:31 AM

Other than donating blood what can those of us far away do? I did contact the ARC, but I'm sure they are inundated. May be a while before they respond.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

I'm at work at a government contractor just outside the Beltway. Everyone here is in absolute shock. Listening to radios, trying to find information on the net, talking about friends and relatives in NY and the Pentagon. From the window I can see what may be smoke from the Pentagon. Some local schools are shutting early. The federal government is shutting down.

This is just awful. Universities are announcing closings as well.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

Two of the aircrafts were American Airlines, one with 81 passengers; one with 58, plus flight attendants and pilots.


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Subject: RE: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:29 AM

Colleague reports that mobile phone networks have been commandeered. Any confirmation? 'Several' aircraft are unaccounted for. CAP is up over east coast.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:26 AM

All bridges and tunnels in NYC closed.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:25 AM

Apparently another plane has gone out of contact, besides the PA crash.

In case Net traffic clogs www and ragtime, there is a thread open in the Help forum for reports in from NYC-ers and others affected.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:23 AM

The thread of NYC Catters is refreshed so you can see who we have there.

The prayer chain is humming.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:21 AM

Praying.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:20 AM

I just hope the backlash is not as horrifying.....jesus...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Greyeyes
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:13 AM

Thoughts with all in the US, please keep posting, no radio or TV at work.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:09 AM

My thoughts are with everone too. Like Steve Parkes, I am shocked at the moments.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: GUEST,Steve Parkes
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:04 AM

I don't now what to say, I'm so shocked. We're thinking of you, if it's any comfort. Love and hope form Sue & Steve.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:01 AM

Report of car-bomb at State Department is now being denied.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM

I'd be glad to do "THE WORK", Mick. Oh, I just had a thought.. my nephew is in the Airforce. Oh No!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:59 AM

Plane crashed into Camp David.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:57 AM

Mixed thoughts............so very hard not to want to take them "out" whoever they are..........

The scrambled Air Force fighters.........Talk about the greatest good for the greatest number........If they DO encounter an obvious airliner on a terrorist mission....how many innocents on board? And you now have to shoot it down to prevent further loss of life......

Sinsull? Larry? Please be okay........Again Anna, we love you and we all understand the emotions you feel.....much love to you and again..Be Safe.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:56 AM

And yes........we must hunt these people down........and woe to anyone that should make the mistake of stopping us...............but when it is done, I pray that we enter into reflection of what the rest of the world faces........about what we, as citizens of the United States, look like and represent to the peoples around the world who are suffering..........but, first we must be about the dirty work. There will be many more martyrs, in addition to the ones made this morning..........


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:55 AM

I had just gotten up....and saw the smoke and dust all over manhattan on the tube....and now I can't seem to stop the tears...jesus...


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:52 AM

Large airliner – perhaps a 747 – crashed in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. The report said the location was 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, PA.

Sears Tower in Chicago evacuated. Military bases in Alaska on alert.

I'm extremely angry that so many terrorists could have gotten onto planes today and taken them over. So much for airport security.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: mooman
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:50 AM

Dear US Colleagues,

Our deepest thoughts for you and condolences to those affected by these horrific and unspeakable acts.

mooman


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:49 AM

And I love you, as well. But the voice of reason is needed now more than at any other time. Only those that know the horror that is being faced and will be faced, will know from whence I speak. The "pulverize 'em" view usually comes from those that haven't had to do the work. Today we are forced down a path that will visit enough tragedy on this world that will make the one we are witnessing seem as only an opening gambit...........I am afraid, Anna my dear friend, because I have seen this before.............and I know what is coming.........and I am crying at the thought of it, and for those already dead................fucking insanity.........


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:47 AM

Anticipation of 2nd hijacked aircraft heading toward Pentagon. Fighter jet(s) in the air.

All federal office buildings in DC have been evacuated.

All aircraft flights into DC and NYC diverted to Canadian airports.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: Art Thieme
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:46 AM

Unbelievable. You have said most of what I am feeling. All of it. Thanks for this forum.

Art


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: sophocleese
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:44 AM

Big Mick I understand the conflict. Its difficult outside your country to say that I want to know why without sounding callous. I'm not callous, I'm shocked and crying for all the people hurt in this, but I still want to know WHY to try and prevent any further disater.

I guess this may give Bush a chance to show what kind of leadership he and his advisors are capable of. Congratulations to the airports for closing down as quickly as they did to stop possible other suicide flights.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:44 AM

757 reported crashed in South Eastern Pensylvania.
Not sure whether this is a targetted crash - or whether this is the one that was on the way to Washington.
God keep you all safe.

Kris


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: kendall
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:42 AM

Makes you wonder why the powers that be did away with the "Sky Pigs". Those Marshalls might have been able to stop the hijacking.

I must say, I'm not surprised that this happened.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: annamill
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:42 AM

Mick, you know how much I love you... Now is NOT the time for a voice of reason. Maybe later!!

Clobber the son of a bitches!! Sodem and Gamorra all the way, Baby!!!

No love here only anger..Annamill

I had friends in those buildings!!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Trade Center-Unreal Disaster
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Sep 01 - 10:41 AM

All the reports are coming in so fast and it's hard to tell yet what has happened, but my thoughts are for all these souls..........

It also appears a collapse of some sort has happened at the Pentagon......There are also reports of an aircraft (possibly a 747) down somewhwere in Pennsylvania....

ANNA my dear.....So great to hear from you........Be safe!!!

Anxious thoughts for Sinsull and Larry..........

Spaw


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