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New York Catters... a proposal...

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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 23 Sep 01 - 10:28 PM

Last night, I met with Mary Courtney, actually she invited me up to sing my song about the NYC firemen at her gig. We discussed setting up the NYC committee to pull this off. So we are building this with deliberate speed. Do let's all check in on this every once and awhile. Also did a public access TV gig with our Mudcat friends Steve and 2 in Harmony, spoke to each other breafly about the April gig. Cheers all, keep it moving foreward. Larry


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From: CapriUni
Date: 23 Sep 01 - 08:37 PM

Haven't seen any new activity on this thread for a while, and I was wondering: apart from the date and place(s) side of the organization, has anyone found out any information on the donations side? Is there some central place to which money for non-American victims can be sent?


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 08:46 AM

Of course, Dave, I met a usual meet in each town. I've a friend in wiltshire coming over in October, maybe he can meet with the English committee and help coordinate. Cheers Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 08:24 AM

Good idea, Larry. Difficult to get over for a meet but if you are happy for me to arrange a UK or european team we can keep each other posted by email and 'phone. OK by you?

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 06:17 AM

I like the mudcat all star idea alot... Steve, lets look to starting a face to face committee meeting on this soon with local mudcatters, I have seen organising fully on line go really badly wrong. Cheers all , Larry


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From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 08:41 PM

Larry, with the right amount of notice, perhaps I can bring my band. Not for sure, but I am very interested in this idea. I will do my very best to participate. How about we get a Mudcat All Star band going and do some basic arrangements?

Mick


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:02 PM

Good 'un Ann! I'd be in the queue as well. Any volunteer publishers out there?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: CapriUni
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:21 PM

Here's a thought:

For those who are not in a position to travel, and / or do not have internet access to participate virtually, but would still like to lend their support:

How about printing up a charity songbook, after the event?

The way I'm envisioning it, it would include all the songs that were performed in all three of the concerts. We could make copies available through the Mudcat Store, and the performers who were *at* the concerts could have copies to sell at other venues, along with their tapes and CD's....

Just a thought...

I know *I'd* buy a copy!!

Ann


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: smallpiper
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:42 AM

Bugger! I was hoping we would decide on a date before the 27th April as thats probably the one day in 2002 that I can't make! oh well................ :-(


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Suffet
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:12 AM

One small typo that needs to be corrected:

"Our will our ranks be open wide to all who'd risk our fate?" should be "Or will our ranks be open wide to all who'd risk our fate?"

I need to remind myself that spellcheck is a poor substitute for proofreading.

--- Steve

Steve, I changed "our" to "or in a couple of places. --JoeClone


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Suffet
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 09:36 AM

I have heard it said that the first casualty of war is the truth.

---- Steve


"The New Battle Hymn of the Republic"

Music: "John Brown's Body" ("The Battle Hymn of the Republic")
Words: Stephen L. Suffet © 2001

Stanzas only, low and dirgelike, without choruses.

An evil hand of terror has smitten our land,
Cruel war is thrust upon us, and united we shall stand,
But before we loose the dogs of war, the truth we shall demand.
May the truth go shining on!

Are our weapons so intelligent, are our bombs so smart,
The evil and the innocent our bombs can tell apart?
Or together will they perish once the bombings start?
May the truth go shining on!

And if we march to battle in the Good Lord's Holy Name,
How are we so different from the ones we choose to blame?
War is never holy; it is evil and profane.
May the truth go shining on!

And the ones whose souls are guided by the sacred Inner Light,
Shall we brand them all as traitors because they will not fight?
Shall we lock them into prisons and keep them out of sight?
May the truth go shining on!

And the one we call Bin Laden, oh may the truth be known,
We armed him and we trained him when we claimed him as our own;
Now he bites the hand that fed him, we have reaped what we have sown.
May the truth go shining on!

Will we who fight for freedom ourselves succumb to hate?
Or will our ranks be open wide to all who'd risk our fate?
The hand that smote our nation knew neither gay nor straight.
May the truth go shining on!

And when the battle's over, will those who now protect,
Be treated then with decency, with honor and respect?
Or will they suffer homelessness, depression and neglect?
May the truth go shining on!

Yes, although war is evil, we still may choose to fight,
The lesser of two evils may bring us through this night,
But let us not deceive ourselves that two wrongs make a right.
May the truth go shining on!


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 06:31 AM

OK - venue enquiries underway. Local, to me, April is the start of the Commonwealth festival. Manchester is hosting the Commonwealth games in August 2002 so we may get some support in that quarter as well. Keep your fingers crossed.

EVERYONE put 27 April 2002 in your diary. HUGE benefit concerts in NYC, Washington DC and the UK. Link up when timezones allow. Anyone else wanna join us?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 03:54 AM

Hi Spoke to Bill Ochs, the piper, he looks in for the concert... Any NYC muds, we are having a session Tuesday night, at Dempseys, around 4th street and 2nd ave, the usual session there, 8 pm, a number of have not been able to play or listen to music since last tuesday and are going to force our selves out and into it, so do drop in folks, cheers Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Peg
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 10:55 PM

if the UKers hold a concert on a separate weekend some of could go over there!!!

And then they could come to ours!

a thought; but I DO like the idea of a concert simultaneously, too...


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 07:45 PM

Right - looks like it then. 27th of April. Third and final time...

(Unless anyone seriously objects again. Am I a wimp or what...;-))

Seriously. 27th April 2002. International concert for the victims families. UK concert from 2pm GMT until whenever. Joined by NYC and Washington DC whenever the time zones catch up. Anyone else want to join in? Europe? Middle or far east? Australia?

Watch this space!

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 12:53 PM

April, Jill. 27th OK from the UK as well - it is a week before the Mudcat Euro gathering. I think there are other festivals on but nothing realy major I think. Can any UK 'catter let me know if there is anything major please?

So - 27th. Going twice...

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: jmdornan
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 12:50 PM

Alright I missed it ... the 27TH of what month???? just let me know when and where .. I'll make the rest of the arrangements to get there :) PLease e-mail me with anything perminate so I can pass it on to others from the upstate NY area too. THanks.. Anything i can do to help please let me know!!! Jill


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: smallpiper
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 11:53 AM

OKay so NY looks like it'll be the 27th what about UK dates?

I personaly would prefer an earlier date in April any suggestions?


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Suffet
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 06:44 AM

I just spoke with some New Yorkers who are involved with NEFFA year after year, and they strongly urged that we choose a date that does not conflict.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 04:32 AM

Right-O then. The 27th

Going once...


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: CamiSu
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 01:06 AM

I'd love to come as well. I could tell a story or two...

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 10:52 PM

Thanks Steve for bringing up NEFFA, I was about to. A very large group of New Englanders & New Yorkers either preform (I do) or attend this festival. It's a long standing festival & many make a comment year after year to be there. Is another date a possiblity? If so, put Finn & Haddie on the list if you want. Barry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 08:10 PM

Hi Liz... I know exactly what you menat, Matt Jones is Black, Kamala is Asian (Indian) and a world music concert would be just the ticket! Sword dancing sounds nice, but can ya do it with plow shares?????? :-) Hope ya had a lovely birthday and many many more. Cheers, from a distant Geordie (our crowd left Yorkshire for Ireland about 600 years back...) Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 06:39 PM

Sorry, Suffet, don't want to alienate any NE folkies! Like I said earlier we cannot please everyone. If we choose another weekend it is likely to co-incide with the (insert your own town) folk festival. I am happy with the 27th as well but how do I know does it clash with someone else? If so, which do we avoid? Etc, etc.

Is the 27th now favourite? Can we close on that one? I feel a decision comimng on...;-)

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: Conflict with NEFFA
From: Suffet
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 05:11 PM

Yipes! Please excuse my stupidity in checking only NY and NJ for major conflicts. Had I looked at Massachusetts, I would have noticed that April 20 falls right in the middle of the three-day New England Folk Festival (NEFFA '02, April 19-21).

While NEFFA '02 is taking place more than 100 miles from New York, many people from the New York folk scene will be there, including both our potential audience and our potential performers. I suggest that we seriously take this into consideration before fixing the date.


---- Steve


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 05:02 PM

Is there anything we can also do meantime? Perhaps later in the year especially for the children, Christmas, a holiday in the UK, stay with a family in the UK. I don't know, but We'd take a kid and give them a good time for a while to help them out of this mess.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Cobble
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 11:49 AM

I'm not a performer but I would like to offer a specially designed cushion (cross stitch) and a hand knitted aran sweater ( adult size) to be auctioned.

Margaret ( Mrs C )


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 11:33 AM

Er, go back and read what I wrote..... a broad band of folk music from other lands.... If I could do the coloured highlight thing on folk I would. Musical diversity is not the issue here, ethnic diversity is. Many people forget that other lands have folk music too, that has just as much history and tradition as anything from Childe Ballads or the Dancing Master.

Can you invite a Sword Dancing side from, say, East London, so's I can get an excuse to come over with Manitas??

LTS


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Suffet
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 09:45 AM

Greetings from New York,

April 20 looks OK. I don't see any conflict with another major event.

We should be very careful in how we deal with to the issue Liz raises. At the risk of sounding totally off base, when it comes to producing a concert, sometimes a great deal of musical diversity is counterproductive. It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

For example, a little over a year ago I helped produce a fund raising concert for the first Ships to Save the Waters Conference. Our three headliners were Paul Winter, David Amran, and Pete Seeger, any one of whom could have filled the 1,200 seat house. In the end we drew a paying audience of fewer than 500 and we cleared less than $1,000. The problem was that many people who would have come to hear one were at best only mildly interested in the others.

I should note that the concert was musically wonderful. In addition, it gave some of the non-headline acts, such as the Johnson Girls, good exposure. But overall, it was a show buisness flop. It would have been easier to have asked Pete to hit up a few contributors.

My own suggestion in striking a balance between musical diversity and keeping a strong audience base is that we follow the lead of the Sis Cunningham tribute concert held here in New York in 1997. The organizers managed to put on somewhere around 30 performers, with lots of diversity in regard to age, ethnicity, and even musical style, but all of whom drew from a "folkie" base.

By the way, having a "folkie" event doesn't preclude encouraging and helping other musicians who may want to put on concerts which draw on their own audience base. And I speak as a person who got a punk rock band, Viva Fidel, onto a Woody Guthrie tribute, and a rap group, the Disciples of Hip Hop, onto a Sloop Clearwater concert. In each case it was a mixed success, but I wouldn't try to place too many folkies onto the bill of a punk or a rap concert.

Let's discuss this further.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 08:01 AM

April 20 sounds good to me... Liz, Happy birthday! Of course there will be music of many lands, in my own band, we have Kamala Shankaram, who plays the sitar, and we are calling up folkies from all over, and NO such concert here would be anything without Rev. Matt Jones, a voice of the civil rights movement in the sixties and seventies... Well, best to all, pray for peace. Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:52 AM

Can someone please make sure that there is a broad band of folk music from other lands included? It would be terrible to give the impression it was just for the white American folks, when it is for EVERYONE.

LTS


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:36 AM

OK transatlanic folkies! Any reason we cannot put the date thing to bed and go for April 20? Unless Larry cannot do that one I don't see any reason, from my point of view, why not. As I said before I know we will never please everyone but someone has to get the ball rolling or we will never get anywhere. Unless we get any strong reasons against by, say, end of day, New York Time, tomorrow (Mon 17 Sept) I suggest we go for it. I will start researching venues Tuesday.

OK?

What do we call it BTW? Something 'snappy'? How about taking a leaf out of Bill Sables book and using, with his permission of course, something like 'Bridging the Gap'? Or something more relevant to Mudcat and the help we are trying to raise? Folk for Peace? Any ideas?

Cheers

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:51 PM

At the Union Sq. rally site, I saw a photograph of Alison's friend Darrin, still missing. Our prayers with Darrin, his friends and family. Larry and Genie


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 01:47 PM

I think we need a real good amount of planing time, late april early may sounds right to me, good news Mary Courtney of the tremendous band Morning Star is on for this as well... Lets have a meeting soon Steve and make it big, a real blow out! Cheers to all, Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Peg
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:24 AM

maybe even this winter if we find an indoor venue?


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:56 AM

Nothing's wrong with March or April as far I'm concerned, or any other time either, I'd be available whenever, it's not that far to not make the effort, wouldn't be hard to talk my other singing partners into too. I'd be greatful to lend a helping hand. Barry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Peg
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:18 AM

what's wrong with March or April?


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:11 AM

I agree with Larry about June being too late. If May 11 is bad because of Mothers day how about either May 18, April 20 or April 27? Remember we can never please everyone. We need a consensus any strong feelings about either date? My vote goes to the earliest but I will fit in with whatever the NYC catters think best.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Peg
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:30 AM

Say when Larry; I will come there on the bus.

I had been planning to come to NYC THIS weekend and was going to email you on, oh, say, Tuesday or so, once I knew my schedule, to see if you were available to play some music...

Looks like I will be rescheduling that.

(I got that CD BTW;thanks! I have been busy preparing for classes etc. so did not have time to email you about it yet)


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: smallpiper
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:25 AM

May could be a bit late with the start of the festival season in sight how about April first month in spring and all that renewal and regrowth stuff - hell I don't care when it is as long as it is! John


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Hollowfox
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:16 AM

Yes, as this progresses, please let those of us who are too far away know what we can do, where we can send a contribution, etc.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Suffet
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 07:05 AM

Larry,

I'll help out any way I can.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 05:35 AM

Maybe we can keep this thread going for a few months, in order to get this well planed. Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Night Owl
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 03:23 AM

Larry...I'm not a performer ......but count me in as well to help with any logistic/support work you need.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 06:16 PM

Remember that the 2nd Sunday in May is the U.S.'s Mother's Day and a lot of people will travel to be with their families that weekend. That weekend has also become the time that M.A.D.D. organizes gun-legislation demonstrations, so there's a lot of rallying going on then for that cause. I would suggest considering another weekend if the concert is to be in the U.S.

I might like to go and play if I can carpool with some of the Mudcat HQ contingent (I hate to go into the city alone even under normal circumstances). Marymac? Max? Pene?


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 05:36 PM

Anywhere anytime. I'm 93 miles north of town.. All the best Guy<><><><><><><><><>><><><><><><><><><><>


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 05:05 PM

May 4th will coincide with the mudcat euro gathering. Goerdie Broon is looking into a gathering sometime in feb, possible to combine the 2? As there will be catters already together.

still very sad

Eric


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 03:42 PM

I'm for May 11 - anyone else? Vote? Consensus?

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 03:38 PM

Great Idea, DC, and England... and anywhere all at the same time, I do think June is a bit late into the summer season, but lets get a consensus. Cheers, Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:22 PM

Mrrzy, don't worry about flying. By the time you CAN fly anywhere, security will be so tight you probably wouldn't be able to get a toothpick on board.

Sounds like a great idea, guys.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: GUEST,Celtic Soul
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:20 PM

I know my band would do this, so a tentative COUNT ME IN FOR A DC SHOW from this quarter. Are there any other DC catters willing to put in for something locally? Considering DC is the site of the second attack, I think it fitting that we try. If enough of us here are up to it, I will speak with my group, and see if we can't do the organizing for it.

I would be happy to come out of the closet and admit to my identity in order to make a contribution to this cause.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:06 PM

Larry's post arrived as I was typing up my last message. May is certainly good for me if you feel it is the best time for you, Larry. If we make it a Saturday Afternoon / Evening event we could certainly meet over the airwaves at some point as well. May 4? Bank Hol in the UK on the 6th as well (I think! The late May bank hol has been moved to the first weekend of June apparantly so I'm a bit confused.) 11th may be better considering it will be the Anniverary (8 months exactly) Only slight problem is artists tend to become less available as the festival season starts. Any thoughts?

Dave


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Pseudolus
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:01 PM

I'm not a NY Catter but would like to help out in whatever way I can, performing or otherwise.....excellent idea.....

Frank


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 01:56 PM

I think you are right, Kevin and thanks to you for the support as well, but I think it best to solicit the views of Larry and anyone else closer to the disaster first. After all it will be primarily their day. I am happy to support but not take the lead on this one.

Hope no-one did take offence at mentioning these things. There was none intended.

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 01:54 PM

It would be really wonderful if this could also take place in cyberspace, either via linking up to Mudcat Radio OR in a specially set up PalTalk room, so those of us who cannot be there, physically, could listen in OR contribute some music, too.

Excellent idea.

In Peace,

kat


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 01:53 PM

Well, I think we should plan to make it big, and May is such a joyous month, with the coming of spring... May 1st, is taken, but, some time in May sounds right to me, as we would also have to do a bit of reasearch about visitors who were lost. How does May sound to folks? Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 01:48 PM

Never too early to think of reconciliation. There'll have been plenty of Muslim victims in the Towers.

In the memorial service in St Pauls in London today Muslim community leaders and clerics were there alongside Christian and Jewish ones.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 01:41 PM

Mrs Gnome had good idea, bless her romantic soul:-) - Valentines Day. The day of love. Sounds good to me. Any other suggestions?

I was thinking of Al Hijra / St Pats being a good idea btw, Ann. But I'm not sure if everyone will be in agreement so it may not be a good idea after all. Thanks for supporting it and being so understanding though. If there were more like minded people we would not have to have this conversation!

Luv an peas to all.

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: CapriUni
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:59 AM

Dave the Gnome --

I wouldn't worry about a February concert being "too close" to Al Hijra. Personally, my heart aches the most for the Middle Eastern and Arabic victims of this crime. They've been attacked, too, remember (I heard one statistic that said that there were 12,000 Pakistani citizens, guests of this nation, who were working at the World Trade Center on the day of the attack -- not to mention the *American citizens* who emigrated here from the Middle East). But many don't feel free to join the public grieving because they fear being attacked. Masques and Arab language newspapers have been attacked and threatened by some of their fellow Americans seeking revenge.

If this is going to be a concert for rememberance and peace, then maybe holding around Al Hijra would be a good idea -- remind people that no religion or race has a monopoly on hatred -- or on love.

Thoughts of comfort and healing to all.

Ann


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:37 AM

OK - Lets talk dates then. Before this Christmas is probably out. Mid January would be good as everyone needs cheering up after the excesses of the season! Feb. 5th (My birthday:-)) March - St Patricks day? I understand it to be a big celebration amongst the NY Irish anyway. (It's also Islamic New year (Al Hijra) on the 15th. Too early for talk of reconcilliation yet but by then who knows?)

Lets try to fix a date by this time next week so we can get the ball rolling. Worry about who can come and where the money goes later.

Any other ideas?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:35 AM

Count me in Larry. I am an available for organizing, mailings, administrative stuff.
Mary


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:24 AM

Count me in for the UK contribution as well


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Trevor
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:17 AM

Count me in for a UK contribution.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Sam Pirt
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:12 AM

I was going to suggest it myself Dave the gnome. I think this should be an international concert.

Dave I would be happy to help you get something together here in England.

Cheers, Sam


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:04 AM

Dave, I dont think thats too 'ambitious' at all....


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:54 AM

I like the idea of international concert day for this, I suppose here in New York we can contact all the national consulates in NY for a list of families in a few months when things are sorted out. Lets make a lovely sound in the name of peace. Cheers Larry


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: jmdornan
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:51 AM

I will contribute my voice and concertina to you !! I think a benefit would be a wonderful way of giving something back. J-


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:47 AM

They think that the UK proportion of deaths will be in the hundreds - perhaps we could achieve a transatlantic concert - a bit like live aid without Bob Geldoff ;-) Or am I getting too ambitious? I would be happy to try and co-ordinate something here. I guess there would be plenty other volunteers as well.

Just a thought

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:25 AM

Cracking gesture, Larry!

Mrrzy, if that spirit summed up America (which thank god it does not) the rerrorists would have done damage beyond even their own wildest dreams.


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Margaret V
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:12 AM

Sounds good to me, Larry. I'd be happy to contribute my voice or harp to the occasion. I wonder how we find out who they are and how to contact their families...

Margaret


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:10 AM

Mrrzy... there is always the boat!


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Subject: RE: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:08 AM

I like the idea. But I wouldn't fly there to attend, not these days, sorry...


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Subject: New York Catters... a proposal...
From: InOBU
Date: 14 Sep 01 - 10:04 AM

I have been thinking about who has the least support among the casualties, and though our first thanks must go to the Firefolks and Cops, they have a very good support structure, and we can go right over and thank them in easily with coffee cakes, etc. However, the tourests, and guests of our nation, who died, they may go overlooked by relief. Lets put together a folk concert in a few months, for the benifit of the families of guests of the nation who lost family in this terrible, event, what about it all??? Larry


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