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BS: people arguing to much

DougR 17 Sep 01 - 05:00 PM
Linda Kelly 17 Sep 01 - 01:05 PM
Rich(bodhránai gan ciall) 16 Sep 01 - 07:45 PM
little john cameron 16 Sep 01 - 07:37 PM
Little Hawk 16 Sep 01 - 06:45 PM
weepiper 16 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 16 Sep 01 - 09:29 AM
Morticia 16 Sep 01 - 09:14 AM
McGrath of Harlow 16 Sep 01 - 09:06 AM
kendall 16 Sep 01 - 08:59 AM
Jim Dixon 16 Sep 01 - 07:34 AM
McGrath of Harlow 16 Sep 01 - 07:20 AM
Cllr 16 Sep 01 - 06:24 AM
Banjer 16 Sep 01 - 06:12 AM
Troll 16 Sep 01 - 02:06 AM
Jeri 16 Sep 01 - 12:53 AM
DougR 16 Sep 01 - 12:11 AM
Ebbie 16 Sep 01 - 12:09 AM
Rick Fielding 16 Sep 01 - 12:07 AM
SINSULL 15 Sep 01 - 11:51 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 15 Sep 01 - 11:35 PM
Jeri 15 Sep 01 - 11:28 PM
wysiwyg 15 Sep 01 - 11:20 PM
catspaw49 15 Sep 01 - 11:17 PM
catspaw49 15 Sep 01 - 11:14 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 15 Sep 01 - 11:13 PM
Jeri 15 Sep 01 - 11:12 PM
Jeri 15 Sep 01 - 11:04 PM
catspaw49 15 Sep 01 - 11:03 PM
Allan C. 15 Sep 01 - 11:02 PM
Lonesome EJ 15 Sep 01 - 11:00 PM
GUEST,Bardford 15 Sep 01 - 10:59 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 15 Sep 01 - 10:58 PM
catspaw49 15 Sep 01 - 10:54 PM
Ebbie 15 Sep 01 - 10:51 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: DougR
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 05:00 PM

Yes, Jeri, if we could do that, we all have a lot of fun.

I'm not a fan of Star Trek, and don't watch it on TV, but I'm sure gonna see if I can find a copy to preview. Got to see what Jeri looks like!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 01:05 PM

It serves you right if your head hurts! (I was the only one-well apart from Jezebel and Bill/Sables ,who was sober and that's because I was the hostess with the mostest -bloody hell, it was past midnight and they even got napkins with their lasagne!- I spoke to some of the other Folk Train reprobates and they are also feeling the worse for wear John so you are not alone. Apparently Les and Cobble went to another session at the Black Boy pub on Sunday afternoon -have they no shame!


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rich(bodhránai gan ciall)
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:45 PM

I forget where it was now, but at a Dead show one time, there were 2 people selling arguments for a quarter. If you said you didn't need an argument, they said "Yes, you do!" A lot of people conceded and gave them the quarter. Sold better than my curried veggie burritos, in retrospect.

Ditto Spaw's post about how amazingly thoughtful the discussions have been this week.

Happy Birthday, John!

Rich


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: little john cameron
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:37 PM

HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY AULD YIN. LJC


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 06:45 PM

john in Hull - Good suggestion. One way to defuse arguments is to simply let the other person have the last word, despite that almost irresistible temptation to nail them with a marvelously apt (from one's own point of view) comeback.

I have actually managed to do this the odd time. :-)

And hopefully I will manage to again!

When I do, I find it leaves me with a lot more time and mental energy for more harmonious activities anyway, so it's really worth it in the end.

Cheers,

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: weepiper
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM

John in Hull for king! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 09:29 AM

My head hurts!


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Morticia
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 09:14 AM

sending you some virtual alka-seltzer this morning,John...looks like you already had a happy birthday *BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 09:06 AM

Oh no it doesn't...


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: kendall
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 08:59 AM

That says it folks.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:34 AM

This would be a good time to have another look at Monty Python's "The Argument Clinic".

(Here's a more complete version, but the first one is easier to read.)


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:20 AM

If you ever watch Star Trek Voyager, the woman who plays 7 of 9 is named Jeri. I look just like her.

Cor!

Surely anyway "guy" now is applied to women as well? Even "bloke" is sometimes, though I know Americans don't use that one (it's from Shelta I understand, a traveller patois). And "bird" can be used of men as well as women - PG Wodehouse did it all the time.

I like good arguments. I don't like quarrels. There's a big difference.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Cllr
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 06:24 AM

John -Jerry is the spelling of the boys version (or Gerry)Jeri is the spelling of the female version both sides of the pond.

NB This ain't discusion or argument- just a statement of fact ;-) Cllr

PS How's the head this morning, hope you enjoyed your birthday


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Banjer
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 06:12 AM

What is the difference between 'arguing' and 'discussing'? Doesn't there need to be an 'argument' in order to have a 'discussion'? Isn't an argument a difference of opinion requiring a discussion to resolve it?

The difference as I see it is which side of the fence you are on. A child who has a different opinion than his parent thinks he is 'discussing' the issue, while the parent sees the child as 'arguing'. If the parent wants to sit down with the little brat and 'discuss' something, it is later said by the brat that 'me and my parents got into an argument' (especially if said 'discussion' didn't go the way the brat would have wanted it to.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Troll
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 02:06 AM

I NEVER argue. I simply try to improve my fellows by pointing out their little errors and foibles.

"Oh, Lord it's so hard to be humble,
When you're perfect in every way...
.

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Jeri
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 12:53 AM

Doug! I was only around 14 years old - THAT would have scared me. Don't you sometimes wish you could take your current brain and confidence level, and transfer it back to your younger self?

If you ever watch Star Trek Voyager, the woman who plays 7 of 9 is named Jeri. I look just like her. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: DougR
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 12:11 AM

Jeri: did you get to shower with the boys before they moved you? If so, you didn't drop the soap did you? **BG**

John, don't get all out of joint. There's always some disagreement here on the "Cat" but everybody stays friends.

Happy Birthday!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 12:09 AM

LOL

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 12:07 AM

Happy Birthday John. I NEVER argue on the net (nobody ever wins...one person just gets tired and goes to bed!) But I have a Shakespeare fan friend.......He REALLY argues when I tell him his hero was a 'nom de plume'!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:51 PM

She is woman. Hear her roar! Happy Birthday again, John. Spaw, do you let your cat go out and upset the ecological balance by killing birds? Your cat, not you.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:35 PM

Sorry Jeri, I thought you was a man ( In UK Jeri is mans name) now I know you is woman.john


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:28 PM

Spaw, when I was in 7th grade, they accidentally put me in a boy's gym class because of my name. I was really upset. Well, I was upset because they moved me to a girls' class.

John, in the spirit of the evening, I'd like to say you're absolutely right. I never, ever argue. Ever.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:20 PM

This is a perfect example of the diff between a member saying something and a guest making trouble-- John's had an opinion and a bit of a party, and is willing to say so, and we just love him for it! Cuzm=, we know him to be a fine fellow and all.

Happy Birthday John!

(I'm a girl too.)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:17 PM

John, you may get some argument from Jeri since she ain't a guy.......her choice of course.......I mean the argument, not being female....Although I suppose that could be thought of as a choice to, what with medical technology and all............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:14 PM

I do know what you mean Jeri........Cats? How did I miss that one? I am grateful nonetheless that I did....sounds like real jewel.

Actually, in many ways during this past week, we have had some excellent discussions with well thought out postings, especially after the initial shock of Tuesday wore off. Pretty much many agreed to disagree at times, but it was very well reasoned discussion.....very little anger.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:13 PM

I like Jeri, He never argues.john


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:12 PM

...here I was being all serious. Happy Birthday John!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:04 PM

I understand some argument, but I'm afraid I agree with John in Hull. I've seen a few comments of "what did you mean by that" recently, and got the feeling the question wasn't aimed at understanding what someone had said, but looking at something they could argue with. I've seen folks choose the most miniscule detail to pick a fight over. Forgive me, but that endless thing about how cats shouldn't be allowed to kill - not a discussion, mind you, but a debate - that was just plain silly.

I personally like having some threads which are discussions. I sort of miss them. (You know - ones where a person posts something about their own experience and then others share theirs or comment.)


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:03 PM

He has a birthday thread guys and I understand he's getting head for his birthday! Pretty good gift I'd say!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Allan C.
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:02 PM

'Spaw was having you on, John. Have a happy birthday - free from arguments, I hope.


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 11:00 PM

You know John, I wouldn't mind being drunk in Hull right now myself. Have another on me, mate. And Happy Birthday!


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:59 PM

Happy Birthday, John in Hull!


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:58 PM

I been drinking now I am not meeening any offfences ( it is my birthday, so i drink).john


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:54 PM

Whaddaya' mean arguing too much? What kind of thing is that to say? How do you know how much is too much there buddy? And how's it any of your affair anyway? Huh??? Just tell me that man! Tell me that! What's your problem?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: people arguing to much
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:51 PM

I'd like to be in your family, john!

:~)

Ebbie


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Subject: people arguing to much
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:48 PM

I think some people are argung too much every mudcat person i have ever met has been reallly nice and frendly and nice, and some people keep arguing , I don t know why but they should stop arguing and be nice.this is my opinion.john


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