Lyr Req: The Hanged Man

Subject: The Hanged Man
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 02:25 PM

Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of "The Hanged Man". It was written by Bob Pegg

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Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 02:40 PM

No luck with SS or Google.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 03:24 PM

Are you looking for the words and/or music, or a recording?  The two Mr. Fox albums were re-released together on CD a few years ago (titled The Complete Mr. Fox, but annoyingly lacking Carole's Mendle).  It should still be available.  If you just want the words, I'll sort them later in the week, with a midi of the tune, too, if I have time.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 05:07 PM

Who is our Rambling Jack xspurt? CRS.....

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 05:19 PM

Are we sure that that's the name of the song? Can you provide us with some sample lyrics?

Do you know who performed it and/or what album it's on?

Alex

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 05:39 PM

Alex, that is the title that R. J. Elliot recorded...of course, we can't be sure it is the same song.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 08:49 PM

The Bob Pegg song was called "The Hanging Man" from the first Mr. Fox album. I also have it on The Complete Mr. Fox. Sorry, tried to write the words down (I used to sing the song a lot), but discovered there were too many holes in the memory. Would rather get you the correct ones, than not.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 17 Sep 01 - 09:40 PM

It's The Hanged Man, written by Bob Pegg (c. 1970), as Guest Bob, who knew what he was talking about, said in the first place.  As I said, I'll deal with it in the next few days unless somebody else wants to do it sooner.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:40 AM

Many thanks for all your help.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 05:18 AM

I've got a vinyl copy of 'The Complete Mr Fox' - not got round to taping it and putting it in the Mudcat auction yet - but I will eventualy - honest! I wouldn't DREAM of copying it of course as that would be a breach of copyright but if anyone would like to contact me personaly I am sure we can come to some arrangement;-) Either here or at [e-mail]. The vinyl does have Mendle on as well, Malcolm.

I always found the Hanged Man a very spooky song but absolutely right for the Mr Fox style. Must say my favourite is still The Gypsy - though I always have a soft spot for the original 'folk rap' on Aunt Lucy Broadwood!

If anyone else knows the album can they tell me if the refrain in The Dancing Song (I think that's the one I'm thinking of anyway) is actualy the Jenny Lind Polka or is it just very similar?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 05:20 AM

BTW - noticed just after I posted - 'The Hanged Man' is one of the 30sec. samples from the album at amazon.co.uk.

DtG

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 05:23 AM

Aaaarrrrggghhhh - someone is going to think I want the record for the most consecutive posts. Listening to the samples at Amazon and found the song with polka refrain is actualy 'Mr Trills song'

Last one.

Honest!

DtG

Subject: ADD: The Hanged Man
From: clansfolk
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 11:04 AM

ahhh Mr Fox - one of me favourite songs - enjoy

Pete

The Hanged Man
(Bob Pegg)

When I was a young man I used to dress so neat
Many hearts beat faster as I walked down the street
Now that I am older the women have had their fill
Till the only heart that beat was mine as I walked down the hill

Walk in the valley that never saw the sun
Step by the stones where the icy waters run
Stand in a church where the village choir once sang
And stroll along the pathway where the dead man used to hang

You take the road the road you took before
The one by the rocks where the river leaves moor
And I will take the road where the hill and forest meet
Where fallen flowers hide the stones that wait to trip your feet

chorus

The trees of the forest the rocks all around
Saw me swing my haversack as I raced gaily down
The badger in the bushes the fox in his lair
Heard me give a whoop and cry as I fell through the air

chorus

Waking in the forest beneath the spreading pine
I saw my body hanging like a shirt upon a line
Vines grew up my fingers where they had come to rest
And in my open mouth the wild beasts came to make their nests

chorus

Many ages later the village people came
Cut me from my resting place and tied up my remains
In an old sheep blanket they bore me down the hill
My corpse is in some far off grave but I remain here still

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: GUEST,Bob
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 01:53 PM

I cannot thank you enough. I never knew that so much help was available. Thanks again

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:08 PM

A few minor corrections to Clansfolk's transcription:

Verse 1, line 3:  Then, as I grew older, the women had their fill

Chorus:  Walk in a valley...
line 4:  Though stroll makes perfectly good sense, it's actually roll.

Verse 2, line 2:  ...where the river leaves the moor
line 3:  I'll take the road...
line 4:  Where the fallen flowers...

Verse 4, line 4:  ...the wild bees came to build their nest.

Verse 5, line 4:  ...a far-off grave...

The original sleevenotes commented:

Separated from his companions, a hiker in the Yorkshire Dales falls down the side of a hill and is killed.

I'm working on a transcription of the tune, but the phrasing is a bit of a bugger.  More later.

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: clansfolk
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 05:43 AM

My transcription was not from the Record/CD but from a session back in the late 60's early 70's and may not be exactly the same as the recorded version - some words may have been mis-read from the drunken scrawl(Not mine!!!)

I'll most likely stick with the words I know (sung too many times for too long to change)but I will add an ammended version to my archives - funny enough although the original copy I was given has "Beasts" written down I have always sung "bees" - as it made more sense to me.

The time change in the chorus must be fun to program into midi! - when we recorded it in '75 we managed to obtain a great portive organ sound on the chorus using a very old "portable" mains powered reed organ.

cheers,

Pete -

PS - anyone in the Radio Lancashire area of England - we'll be going out on air live at about 14.50 bst this afternoon and there's an montage on Singleton clogger sometime between 15.00 - 15.30 from their outside broadcast unit

Subject: ADD: The Hanged Man (Bob Pegg)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 12:15 PM

Many thanks for this thread, it has made me fish out and listen to an old favourite LP. My copy is the Complete Mr. Fox, which contained both the band's LPs - Mr. Fox and The Gypsy both recorded in the early 1970s. I first heard the recordings around 1976, and when I later saw the double LP on sale bought my own copy.
As a response to this thread I decided to transcribe the song, but before I got round to the job some words had already been posted. I lifted Clansfolk's transcription and edited in Malcolm Douglas's corrections. I then read the lyrics whilst listening to the recording and spotted a couple of discrepancies which I have altered.
The following should be an accurate set of words :-

   THE HANGED MAN
    by Bob Pegg
     (Recorded by Mr Fox on the album Mr Fox)

When I was a young man I used to dress so neat
Many hearts beat faster as I walked down the street
Then as I grew older the women had their fill
'Til the only heart that beat was mine as I came down the hill

Chorus
Walk in a valley that never saw the sun
Step by the stones where the icy waters run
Stand in a church where the village choir once sang
And roll along the pathway where the dead man used to hang

You take the road, the road you took before
The one by the rocks where the river leaves the moor
I'll take the road where the hill and forest meet
Where the fallen flowers hide the stones that wait to trip your feet

Chorus

The trees of the forest the rocks all around
Saw me swing my haversack as I raced gaily down
The badger in the bushes the fox in his lair
Heard me give a whoop and cry as I fell through the air

Chorus

Waking in the forest beneath the spreading pine
I saw my body hanging like a shirt upon a line
Vines crept up my fingers where they had come to rest
And in my open mouth the wild bees came to build their nest

Chorus

Many ages later the village people came
Took me from my resting place and tied up my remains
In an old sheep blanket they bore me down the hill
My corpse is in a far off grave but I remain here still

Happy Singing
Geoff the Duck!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAWiCDQXaW4

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 12:20 PM

Oh BUGGER HTML! I was trying to offset the title with non-breaking spaces I think that I forgot the triangular brackets!
Please will the Joeclones and Mudcat Pixies tidy the above posting up and then delete this one - Ta
Geoff

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Snuffy
Date: 19 Sep 01 - 06:19 PM

You need a pee, Geoff - it's nbsp (non-breaking space)

Wassail! V

Subject: RE: Help: The Hanged Man
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 20 Sep 01 - 03:02 PM

Right! I'll go and have a Pee then!
Will that improve my postings, or just make me feel better?
Quack!!!
Geoff!

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Subject: THE HANGED MAN
From: GUEST,Navillus
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 03:51 PM

I am sorry to be a nuisance but some time ago I asked for help with this song. Someone kindly provided a link for the lyrics but I have lost it. As I am useless at finding things on the web, could somebody please give me the link again. Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: THE HANGED MAN
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 04:04 PM

Click here for a thread that discussed the song and has the lyrics. If that's not the one you want, let "us" know!

If you're looking for an old thread, and know some of the words in the thread title, you can put those words in the little box that says "Filter", set the "Age" to whatever look-back interval seems reasonable, and hit "Refresh": you'll see a (very) truncated list of threads that should include the one you want.

If you're not sure of the thread title, or just want to see if there is any info on Mudcat about a particular song or topic, use the "Digitrad and Forum Search" box. Happy haunting!

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: THE HANGED MAN
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 22 Dec 01 - 04:08 PM

Unfortunately, the "Digitrad and Forum Search" hasn't been updated for months, so a lot of recent things can't be found through it.  In addition to the method Mark describes, you can also find it via the old "Forum Search" which you'll find in the drop-down box at the top of this page, though both these will only work if you can remember at least part of the thread name.